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Strahan91 : 8/23/2019 2:35 pm
NFL Research
@NFLResearch
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@Daniel_Jones10
has been a giant among men this preseason.

The rookie QB is up to an 83.3 comp pct, 12.3 yds/att, and a 140.1 passer rating.

Those numbers are the highest in a rookie preseason since at least 2006 (min. 30 attempts).

Some additional perspective & #128071;.

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RE: How about  
arcarsenal : 8/23/2019 5:44 pm : link
In comment 14541868 crick n NC said:
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Danny Manning??


Yeah, I'd take DJ over Danny Dimes at this point as a nickname.  
bceagle05 : 8/23/2019 5:46 pm : link
It was funny the first time (to me, at least), but it quickly ran its course.
RE: RE: Serious question: Is this a racial thing?  
Jay in Toronto : 8/23/2019 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14541729 Diver_Down said:
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The reason I say that is it was brought up that the Giants were racist for drafting Daniel Jones. Now that Jones is playing extremely well and Haskins okay at best it sounds like these talking head are trying to stick up for their guy in Haskins and finding more made up shit about the Giants and Jones.



It is my perception, also. It is hard to make the claim without being labeled a racist. But I don't think it is a coincidence that Josina/Riddick/Haskins are all black - A sort of reverse discrimination. If Jones were black and Haskins white, I wonder if they would still share the same commentary.


How do you know that they are not partially black??????
RE: RE: How about  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/23/2019 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14541873 arcarsenal said:
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Danny Manning??





Damnit! I was just gonna post a pic of that Danny Manning.
Gotta b  
crick n NC : 8/23/2019 5:48 pm : link
Quik round dees pahts
RE: Media types BLASTED the Jones pick  
speedywheels : 8/23/2019 5:50 pm : link
In comment 14541851 Stan in LA said:
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So now they are pursuing an agenda to prove they were right despite the fact that they were wrong.
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Says the person who is QUITE familiar with that approach.
Daniel Stephen Jones III  
crick n NC : 8/23/2019 5:57 pm : link
DSJ III

I'll Probably just refer to him as
Daniel Stephen Jones III

RE: RE: RE: How about  
arcarsenal : 8/23/2019 6:00 pm : link
In comment 14541878 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Danny Manning??







Damnit! I was just gonna post a pic of that Danny Manning.


RE: Am I the only one...  
Chocco : 8/23/2019 6:19 pm : link
In comment 14541719 BamaBlue said:
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that doesn't like the moniker "Danny Dimes"? I've got nothing better, but Danny Dimes sounds like a redux of John's Bargain Stores.


"The Duke of Hurl"
RE: I've seen bits and pieces of Haskins..  
Deejboy : 8/23/2019 6:42 pm : link
In comment 14541796 BillKo said:
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..and he looks good to me.

The difference between him and Jones is Jones looks may more polished, but Haskins has what a really strong arm.

I think both guys will end up being good players to be honest. Just different styles.


Funny thing about Haskins's really strong arm is during the NFL combine velocity drills he threw 52mph to the left and right. Jones threw 54mph.
RE: On paper Haskins should've been the #1 pick in this draft.  
Deejboy : 8/23/2019 6:46 pm : link
In comment 14541735 bceagle05 said:
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Quarterback, built like a tank, big arm, incredibly productive at a powerhouse football school, coached by Urban Meyer, played well in big games - the fact that he dropped to 15 speaks volumes. Multiple teams at or near the top of the first round that needed QBs passed on him, and good teams with aging QBs (Pitt/SD/NE) didn't try to trade up for him when he supposedly "fell" into the teens. Plus, the team that drafted him is the Redskins - it's not like Danny Boy and Bruce Allen have sterling reps as talent evaluators. Clearly there's something amiss with Haskins that made the entire league take notice, and I highly doubt it's race-related.

The fact that he is considered a below average athlete and slow definitely hurt his stock. That 5.04 he ran just confirmed what everyone knew. Hell, the Eli we saw moving yesterday might beat Haskins in a race. Teams are more wary of QBs that could eat their way out of the league and Haskins will be watched closely for that. I am sure some teams wondered about his weight long term.
RE: RE: I've seen bits and pieces of Haskins..  
Zeke's Alibi : 8/23/2019 6:49 pm : link
In comment 14541912 Deejboy said:
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..and he looks good to me.

The difference between him and Jones is Jones looks may more polished, but Haskins has what a really strong arm.

I think both guys will end up being good players to be honest. Just different styles.



Funny thing about Haskins's really strong arm is during the NFL combine velocity drills he threw 52mph to the left and right. Jones threw 54mph.


Those combine numbers are pretty useless. They measure it one throw and the guys with perceived weaker arms always muster the ball in there to show they got arm strength, while the guys with stronger arms are just trying to throw accurate passes. Everyone already knows they have a strong arm.
RE: RE: Am I the only one...  
Reale01 : 8/23/2019 7:28 pm : link
In comment 14541736 Diver_Down said:
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that doesn't like the moniker "Danny Dimes"? I've got nothing better, but Danny Dimes sounds like a redux of John's Bargain Stores.



+100. The Danny Dimes moniker is cringe worthy.



I like, Daniel Stormborn - Mover of chains.
RE: RE: It's funny in that on NFL Live yesterday,  
Bill L : 8/23/2019 7:28 pm : link
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Josina had made the comment that the Giants were protecting DJ by having him throwing mostly slants. She countered that Haskins was really pushing the ball down the field and it was an indicator of what should be expected by an NFL QB. She couldn't be more biased in her comments. She doesn't even realize that DJ has a high YPA.



It amazes me the number of talking heads that just make shit up, and then speak it. Louis Riddick tried to make a similar sort of comment, something along the lines of "Giants were setting up Jones for success" and "Redskins were having Haskins push the ball downfield". Comical.

Why would a team, or a coach, set up his player for failure?
RE: Serious question: Is this a racial thing?  
Bill L : 8/23/2019 7:33 pm : link
In comment 14541718 robbieballs2003 said:
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The reason I say that is it was brought up that the Giants were racist for drafting Daniel Jones. Now that Jones is playing extremely well and Haskins okay at best it sounds like these talking head are trying to stick up for their guy in Haskins and finding more made up shit about the Giants and Jones.

I don’t think that there is any question that it is.
Danny Dimes...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/23/2019 7:59 pm : link
Makes me cringe.
Anderson  
Sy'56 : 8/23/2019 8:17 pm : link
has a job at ESPN for reasons other than football. Her view on football (the game itself) are near worthless.
They have become  
crick n NC : 8/23/2019 8:19 pm : link
Worth quite a few clicks apparently
RE: RE: On paper Haskins should've been the #1 pick in this draft.  
Blue21 : 8/23/2019 8:19 pm : link
In comment 14541914 Deejboy said:
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Quarterback, built like a tank, big arm, incredibly productive at a powerhouse football school, coached by Urban Meyer, played well in big games - the fact that he dropped to 15 speaks volumes. Multiple teams at or near the top of the first round that needed QBs passed on him, and good teams with aging QBs (Pitt/SD/NE) didn't try to trade up for him when he supposedly "fell" into the teens. Plus, the team that drafted him is the Redskins - it's not like Danny Boy and Bruce Allen have sterling reps as talent evaluators. Clearly there's something amiss with Haskins that made the entire league take notice, and I highly doubt it's race-related.


The fact that he is considered a below average athlete and slow definitely hurt his stock. That 5.04 he ran just confirmed what everyone knew. Hell, the Eli we saw moving yesterday might beat Haskins in a race. Teams are more wary of QBs that could eat their way out of the league and Haskins will be watched closely for that. I am sure some teams wondered about his weight long term.


I think it hurt him also that he didn't even try to run again after the slow 40 time. Remember Jones tried to improve his 40 time. He wasn't satisfied with his intial time. I gotta believe too that Haskins may not have interviewed very well. Remember Haskins was a one year starter also.
Danny Dimes  
ron mexico : 8/23/2019 8:22 pm : link
I think there is an anti Gettleman part to the Jones  
St. Jimmy : 8/23/2019 9:30 pm : link
hate. People don't like Gettleman and want him to fail so they saw the Jones pick as a chance to attack. I think there is also an anti Duke thing involved with it too.
RE: RE: Am I the only one...  
Bluesbreaker : 8/23/2019 10:19 pm : link
In comment 14541736 Diver_Down said:
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that doesn't like the moniker "Danny Dimes"? I've got nothing better, but Danny Dimes sounds like a redux of John's Bargain Stores.



+100. The Danny Dimes moniker is cringe worthy.


Yes if I never hear Danny Dimes again I will be happy it sounds tacky or Cheesey ... Sweaty Haskins isn't exactly taking the NFL by storm . Yet on ESPN the Game recap how Haskins led the skins with three scores comeback win ..
Thats some serious fluff ..
Anti-Duke?  
bw in dc : 8/23/2019 10:31 pm : link
If Jones was a basketball player under K, perhaps.

Football at Duke? NFW.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Serious question: Is this a racial thing?  
Prude : 8/23/2019 11:28 pm : link
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The reason I say that is it was brought up that the Giants were racist for drafting Daniel Jones. Now that Jones is playing extremely well and Haskins okay at best it sounds like these talking head are trying to stick up for their guy in Haskins and finding more made up shit about the Giants and Jones.



It is my perception, also. It is hard to make the claim without being labeled a racist. But I don't think it is a coincidence that Josina/Riddick/Haskins are all black - A sort of reverse discrimination. If Jones were black and Haskins white, I wonder if they would still share the same commentary.


It's definitely a concerted company wide effort on the part of ESPN. Some kind of social justice project trying to promote entitlement.



You're treading on dangerous ground here, and are reinforcing some very unsavory viewpoints. How about just keeping the conversation to sports?


Please please please don't tell the truth or else the narrative we have been building for 60 years could completely crumble
Now you're seeing the pushback  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 8/24/2019 12:17 am : link
Most people will never admit that they were wrong even with evidence staring them in the face.

These talking heads will jump through logical hoops to defend their initial assessment of Jones, and it seems they will flat out make shit up also.

The sad thing is that this isn't going to go away. Those that hated Eli day one still ragged on him after he won two championships.

Wait for it, even if Jones is a huge success the narrative with these same people will become that he is "overrated".

They will always find a way to defend a stupid position. People are petty, illogical, and predictable creatures.
RE: RE: RE: Serious question: Is this a racial thing?  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 8/24/2019 12:27 am : link
In comment 14541784 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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In comment 14541718 robbieballs2003 said:


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The reason I say that is it was brought up that the Giants were racist for drafting Daniel Jones. Now that Jones is playing extremely well and Haskins okay at best it sounds like these talking head are trying to stick up for their guy in Haskins and finding more made up shit about the Giants and Jones.



It is my perception, also. It is hard to make the claim without being labeled a racist. But I don't think it is a coincidence that Josina/Riddick/Haskins are all black - A sort of reverse discrimination. If Jones were black and Haskins white, I wonder if they would still share the same commentary.


It's definitely a concerted company wide effort on the part of ESPN. Some kind of social justice project trying to promote entitlement.


How does this guy constantly get away with the sociopolitical commentary?

I think you're giving people way too much credit if you think there is some conspiracy at work...to promote a football player??

Protip: If your entire worldview rests on secret cabals, coverups and bogeymen you might want to consider the possibility that you are in fact living in a fantasy world that you have constructed to reinforce your own preconceived notions.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Serious question: Is this a racial thing?  
Prude : 8/24/2019 12:50 am : link
In comment 14542291 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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The reason I say that is it was brought up that the Giants were racist for drafting Daniel Jones. Now that Jones is playing extremely well and Haskins okay at best it sounds like these talking head are trying to stick up for their guy in Haskins and finding more made up shit about the Giants and Jones.



It is my perception, also. It is hard to make the claim without being labeled a racist. But I don't think it is a coincidence that Josina/Riddick/Haskins are all black - A sort of reverse discrimination. If Jones were black and Haskins white, I wonder if they would still share the same commentary.


It's definitely a concerted company wide effort on the part of ESPN. Some kind of social justice project trying to promote entitlement.



How does this guy constantly get away with the sociopolitical commentary?

I think you're giving people way too much credit if you think there is some conspiracy at work...to promote a football player??

Protip: If your entire worldview rests on secret cabals, coverups and bogeymen you might want to consider the possibility that you are in fact living in a fantasy world that you have constructed to reinforce your own preconceived notions.


If you think our current sociopolitical climate just sprung up organically without leverage from the top in media and academia you are blind. In fact it's impossible, how would so many people shift away so radically from what was customary all at once, without any outside influence?

But I don't think you believe what you are saying you are just trying to mock and ridicule anyone that pushed back against your positions. You read Alinsky's ruled for radicals.
"Ridicule is man's most potent weapon."


“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.”

I think you are a part of the cabal. Or you have internalized their positions.
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If a poster has a newly created account AND runs afoul of policy...  
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Just ban his ass. There's a 99% chance he's already on here as someone else.

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Carson Palmer was the comp from 2006?  
mattlawson : 8/24/2019 9:31 am : link
Jones has a larger sample size. I’m thinking everyone in the mainstream needs to eat some crow


RE: Carson Palmer was the comp from 2006?  
Diver_Down : 8/24/2019 9:35 am : link
In comment 14542406 mattlawson said:
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Jones has a larger sample size. I’m thinking everyone in the mainstream needs to eat some crow



In due time, they all will eat some crow. Chris Simms stated yesterday his Mea Culpa that he was wrong. He was highly critical of both Eli and Dan. He has since backtracked and has been complimentary of Eli based on his performance in the preseason.

Kellerman has a huge shit burger to eat. Yesterday, he took his first taste. He still has a long way to go.
Kellerman... Yesterday, he took his first taste.  
Torrag : 8/24/2019 9:39 am : link
Haha yep. Especially guys that purport to be Giants fans. He went into attack mode against DG as if he wanted the team to be fail. Agenda based dumassery at the highest level.
RE: Carson Palmer was the comp from 2006?  
crick n NC : 8/24/2019 9:39 am : link
In comment 14542406 mattlawson said:
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Jones has a larger sample size. I’m thinking everyone in the mainstream needs to eat some crow



rookie preseason

I posted a link above to the complete 2006 pseason stats. My guess is Jay Cutler.
RE: RE: Carson Palmer was the comp from 2006?  
Klaatu : 8/24/2019 9:42 am : link
In comment 14542409 Diver_Down said:
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Jones has a larger sample size. I’m thinking everyone in the mainstream needs to eat some crow





In due time, they all will eat some crow. Chris Simms stated yesterday his Mea Culpa that he was wrong. He was highly critical of both Eli and Dan. He has since backtracked and has been complimentary of Eli based on his performance in the preseason.

Kellerman has a huge shit burger to eat. Yesterday, he took his first taste. He still has a long way to go.


What did Kellerman say?
One kellerman response  
crick n NC : 8/24/2019 9:46 am : link
I'm sure  
crick n NC : 8/24/2019 9:47 am : link
That was one of his more tame responses.
No, crick, I knew Max crapped all over the pick.  
Klaatu : 8/24/2019 9:49 am : link
I was asking about what he said recently.
👌  
crick n NC : 8/24/2019 9:51 am : link
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I thought it was pretty well acknowledged that Denver (and others)  
PatersonPlank : 8/24/2019 9:56 am : link
would have taken Jones before 17?
RE: RE: RE: Carson Palmer was the comp from 2006?  
Diver_Down : 8/24/2019 11:24 am : link
In comment 14542419 Klaatu said:
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Jones has a larger sample size. I’m thinking everyone in the mainstream needs to eat some crow





In due time, they all will eat some crow. Chris Simms stated yesterday his Mea Culpa that he was wrong. He was highly critical of both Eli and Dan. He has since backtracked and has been complimentary of Eli based on his performance in the preseason.

Kellerman has a huge shit burger to eat. Yesterday, he took his first taste. He still has a long way to go.



What did Kellerman say?


He has been consistent since the draft with his over-the-top condemnation of the Jones over Haskins pick. Poking fun at the senile DG. Laughing stock of the league, etc. Yesterday on First Take (it was in the last half hour of the show), there was a segment on Jones whether he should start the season. Guest speaker, Clark, took the position that Jones should be the week 1 starter. Steven A. took the position that Eli is the starter, but eventually Jones would see the field later in the season. Basically, stating that there is value in learning behind Eli. Kellerman still holding on to the position that Haskins should have been taken over Jones acquiesced that Jones has looked good. Of course, he couched the limited praise with the disclaimer that he has played against second string players, non-scheming defense, etc. He went on to say that Jones will be expected to take over as he has no faith in Eli and no receivers (he's still butt-hurt over OBJ).
Thanks, D_D.  
Klaatu : 8/24/2019 11:59 am : link
I just don't get Kellerman at all, and I certainly can't take him seriously after the way he's behaved since the draft.
RE: Thanks, D_D.  
Diver_Down : 8/24/2019 1:03 pm : link
In comment 14542528 Klaatu said:
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I just don't get Kellerman at all, and I certainly can't take him seriously after the way he's behaved since the draft.


I don't seek him and Stephen out. It is just the only nonsense on while I'm at the gym. I can't listen to Fox News/CNN. And the Price is Right and The View aren't in my wheelhouse. I could listen to music, but when the TVs are on in front of the cardio equipment, it seems like a distraction to the music. So I listen to the two of them try and prove which one is dumber.
Kellerman has stated that Daniel Jones needs to be a HOF QB  
Zeke's Alibi : 8/24/2019 1:13 pm : link
to justify the pick. Which I thought was ridiculous. So if we drafted the reincarnation of Tony Romo it was a shit pick. Okay got it.
RE: RE: Thanks, D_D.  
Klaatu : 8/24/2019 1:23 pm : link
In comment 14542621 Diver_Down said:
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In comment 14542528 Klaatu said:


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I just don't get Kellerman at all, and I certainly can't take him seriously after the way he's behaved since the draft.



I don't seek him and Stephen out. It is just the only nonsense on while I'm at the gym. I can't listen to Fox News/CNN. And the Price is Right and The View aren't in my wheelhouse. I could listen to music, but when the TVs are on in front of the cardio equipment, it seems like a distraction to the music. So I listen to the two of them try and prove which one is dumber.


Surprised. Figured you'd be a big fan of The View. :)
RE: Daniel Stephen Jones III  
Bill in UT : 8/24/2019 3:05 pm : link
In comment 14541884 crick n NC said:
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DSJ III

I'll Probably just refer to him as
Daniel Stephen Jones III


If that's his name, I'll throw in D-3
RE: Long balls  
Bill in UT : 8/24/2019 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14541680 crick n NC said:
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Are inevitable the older we get

Sigh


It's more about the sacks
Why doesn’t just DJ  
Jimmy Googs : 8/24/2019 3:15 pm : link
work for nickname?
RE: Kellerman has stated that Daniel Jones needs to be a HOF QB  
BestFeature : 8/24/2019 3:16 pm : link
In comment 14542627 Zeke's Alibi said:
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to justify the pick. Which I thought was ridiculous. So if we drafted the reincarnation of Tony Romo it was a shit pick. Okay got it.


This is a stupid argument. More top 10 QBs miss than hit. This whole he was taken 6 overall so he better be a HOFer is ridiculous. And it's 6 overall, not 1st overall.
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