BBV Laremy Tunsil trade rumors: Should NYG be interested?

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Honestly can’t imaginr what it would cost for a trade

#1 for sure imo


He’s probably the best LT in the league rn

have you seen him play at all? I have not.

is right now a top 3 OT in football, could be THE guy within a year or two.

He won't be paid like it until 2021

Because this dude smoked pot.

Good job Reese.

But why would you give up top quality oline in a league looking for oline.

In comment 14542762 dep026 said:

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Because this dude smoked pot. Good job Reese.

Passed on the pot head, got a cement head.

Team not tracing Tunsil.

Smoke? Or fire?

In comment 14542762 dep026 said:

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Because this dude smoked pot. Good job Reese.

A lot of teams passed on him because of it, as I'm sure you know. The 'what if' is staggering though.

Meh somebody probably would just have jumped us for Tunsil. We were preordained to pick Apple.

awesome. It isn't like he's a 30 something year old tackle and doesn't fit into a rebuild. Gotta think DG would be all over this if possible.

is trying to do it “the Belicheck” way instead of his own way.

In comment 14542770 smshmth8690 said:

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In comment 14542762 dep026 said: Quote: Because this dude smoked pot. Good job Reese. A lot of teams passed on him because of it, as I'm sure you know. The 'what if' is staggering though.

And they were all clowns for doing so. What a bunch of scared sheep. Guy was smoking pot, and wasn't even going to enter the NFL's program unless he said something incredibly stupid to the NFL while he was under investigation. Teams weren't prepared for him to slip and when he did I think it took them by surprise.

In comment 14542767 MOOPS said:

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In comment 14542762 dep026 said: Quote: Because this dude smoked pot. Good job Reese. Passed on the pot head, got a cement head.

Along with his mother.

In comment 14542758 Sy'56 said:

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is right now a top 3 OT in football, could be THE guy within a year or two. He won't be paid like it until 2021

What do you think it would take? I'm parting with a couple first to make that happen personally.

In comment 14542775 Zeke's Alibi said:

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awesome. It isn't like he's a 30 something year old tackle and doesn't fit into a rebuild. Gotta think DG would be all over this if possible.

Factor in what kind of LT prospects are coming out of college.

The Dolphins have one of the worst offensive line's already but Tunsil is one of the best OT's in football and he is very young. They might have their franchise QB in Rosen or they will take one in the 2020 draft where they will more than likely be picking in the top 3. They are already favorites for the #1 pick.

Unless there was some off the field issues that we don't know about yet this makes no sense. Tunsil is a long term building block and we all know how difficult it is to find offensive linemen.

he smokes pot

They're going to have tons of cap space and he's an ascending young player at a premium position that is difficult to fill. Has to be more to it than Flores trying to be Belichick.

In comment 14542762 dep026 said:

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Because this dude smoked pot. Good job Reese.

Probably Reese's worst moment as GM. I was screaming to take him at the time. Though I have to wonder if it was Mara who made the call to take Tunsil off the board for the Giants.

so this story has to be bogus..

a player's best trait is availability.

In comment 14542842 JonC said:

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a player's best trait is availability.

Who isn't a risk by your definition? Half these guys in the league smoke pot at least, by many players admission. Who's to say he's a pothead? One video and now you're a pothead? That Obama guy, giant pothead.

Stan..

In comment 14542849 Zeke's Alibi said:

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In comment 14542842 JonC said: Quote: a player's best trait is availability. Who isn't a risk by your definition? Half these guys in the league smoke pot at least, by many players admission. Who's to say he's a pothead? One video and now you're a pothead? That Obama guy, giant pothead.

I think it is safe to apply the label to a guy who straps a gas mask with a bong affixed to it.

or there is something we don't know about Tunsil. You don't trade a player like that without a reason.

If he was this giant problematic pothead, I think the NFL teams would have known about it. Guys like Will Hill and Josh Gordon were well known before they ever stepped foot on football field.

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In comment 14542777 Zeke's Alibi said:

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In comment 14542770 smshmth8690 said: Quote: In comment 14542762 dep026 said: Quote: Because this dude smoked pot. Good job Reese. A lot of teams passed on him because of it, as I'm sure you know. The 'what if' is staggering though. And they were all clowns for doing so. What a bunch of scared sheep. Guy was smoking pot, and wasn't even going to enter the NFL's program unless he said something incredibly stupid to the NFL while he was under investigation. Teams weren't prepared for him to slip and when he did I think it took them by surprise.

That is false. Nobody knew anything. It didn't come out until after we picked tyat he wouldn't enyer the drug program. When you invest millions of dollars that is very important to know. For every Tunsil there are more Randy Gregory's. I dont blame the Giants for passimg. Had we hit on our pick nobody would care. We missed and now it is a problem. The bigger problem was letting our intentions known. Wasn't this the draft with Conklin and Floyd getting taken in front of us?

In comment 14542849 Zeke's Alibi said:

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In comment 14542842 JonC said: Quote: a player's best trait is availability. Who isn't a risk by your definition? Half these guys in the league smoke pot at least, by many players admission. Who's to say he's a pothead? One video and now you're a pothead? That Obama guy, giant pothead.

Not that I care. What I care about is guys making millions, chancing it smoking when if they waited a few years (or time it right) they could do what they wanted in a huge house with more money then they could spend.

And their first round pick could be the first pick in the draft.

problematic drug issue it would have been known. The last I checked the NFL doesn't put people in the drug program unless they are arrested or fail a drug test. We were on of those teams before the Dolphins that got caught unprepared because nobody thought Tunsil was falling. If the guy had a drug issue, teams would have been prepped for him to possibly tumble.

and Chong loved the pick.

In comment 14542869 Zeke's Alibi said:

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If he was this giant problematic pothead, I think the NFL teams would have known about it. Guys like Will Hill and Josh Gordon were well known before they ever stepped foot on football field.

Zeke, you clearly know the distinction between pulling a tube on a Saturday night and strapping on a gas mask bong.

used one, and have known people that partook occasionally and have. Most these guys are pot users. The truly problematic ones (the dummies) generally are weeded out by drug tests and arrests. I don't think a video of guy using a gas mask bong proves anything. The guy that owns that is a different story, but people see that and think cool never done that can I try? Thats how most the people I know that have done it.

Instead we drafted to heaps of shit....

In comment 14542849 Zeke's Alibi said:

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In comment 14542842 JonC said: Quote: a player's best trait is availability. Who isn't a risk by your definition? Half these guys in the league smoke pot at least, by many players admission. Who's to say he's a pothead? One video and now you're a pothead? That Obama guy, giant pothead.

If the shoe fits ... we won't see eye to eye on this.

First, they should absolutely do their due diligence on EVERY player who becomes available. That's internal due diligence ("Do we want him? If so, how badly, and what would we be willing to pay?") and external due diligence ("What's the asking price?").

Second, if it were May, I'd prefer him to either Solder or Remmers, but I don't feel strongly about it. I'd trade Solder for him but not the Giants' #1. Given the contract imbalance it probably would be difficult to p the Giants would almost certainly have to make it Solder plus something, probably a pick.

Third, since it's late August, and Tunsil would have to learn the offense, I think that trade is VERY difficult to make.

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The bigger problem was letting our intentions known. Wasn't this the draft with Conklin and Floyd getting taken in front of us?

That shit gets repeated as if it were gospel, but we don't know that. To know that we would have to not only know what the Bears and Titans were thinking, but also

-what the Giants intentions were before that draft (we don't)

- that the information was actually leaked (we don't know that)

- that the information leaked was accurate and truthful (we don't know that)

It appears that Tennessee thought we wanted Conklin. So? That's not fucking rocket science. We needed OL help bad, anybody could see that without a "leak". In their spot I would have looked to jump the Giants also. Big deal. Teams trade up sometimes, get a helmet.

The Bears felt we wanted Floyd, (so did many others) but it always felt strange to me that he was their target considering what a poor scheme fit he was at that time.

Now even if we say for a moment that you're right, the Giants still had a draft board to work with and whether their picks were good or not they would have prepared for any scenario.

The notion that they were surprised and had no idea what to do is foolish. They knew who they wanted next. He didn't pan out. Their problem in the last regime was in identifying prospects not "leaks".

Maybe you are right and the Giants dropped the ball, but the thing is its all speculation.

In comment 14542773 Coach Red Beaulieu said:

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Meh somebody probably would just have jumped us for Tunsil. We were preordained to pick Apple.

Or we may have gotten Floyd.

In comment 14542773 Coach Red Beaulieu said:

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Meh somebody probably would just have jumped us for Tunsil. We were preordained to pick Apple.

IIRC it was his ex's father or uncle, justing trying to cause Tunsil some pain.

I would love to have him, but he’s smoked pot....

In comment 14542913 GiAnT4LYFE said:

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Instead we drafted to heaps of shit....

Bbi had a hard on for both Gurley and Tunsil, but yet....

If he had taken Tnsil over the ill-fated Apple

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His knee is why they rightfully passed, imo

In comment 14543427 Vanzetti said:

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If he had taken Tnsil over the ill-fated Apple

If Reese was still GM there's no way we would of had Jones and Barkley

In comment 14543533 NephilimGiants said:

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In comment 14543427 Vanzetti said: Quote: If he had taken Tnsil over the ill-fated Apple If Reese was still GM there's no way we would of had Jones and Barkley

Actually, I think even Reese would have drafted Barkley.

Not Jones, though. Definitely not Jones.

One you'd have to give up a lot to get him. And two you'd have to pay him a lot.

As a rebuilding team it's very fair to wonder if that is the best use of resources, especially with a team flush in cap space. Would the Giants be better off waiting for the next good LT to simply hit FA and sign him and not surrender the picks?

In comment 14543427 Vanzetti said:

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If he had taken Tnsil over the ill-fated Apple

And I’m willing to bet Reese got the no go from Mara.
The Apple pick on the other hand...