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trueblueinpw : 8/24/2019 10:47 pm
Hope this isn’t a violation of rules, really hope this doesn’t go sideways b/c I know some folks here know this topic and I need advice. Mrs. Trueblue wants to get trained in basic firearms, rifle and pistol safety, handling and use. I can’t really figure out where to start. I’ve been on the NRA website and some Long Island training sites but the classes say NY Pistol permit required. Does NYS require a permit for training?



Any thoughts and recommendations on how to go about getting started with this? I’ll call around to various clubs, etc. but not really sure what to look for and ask about.
come to arizona.  
madgiantscow009 : 8/24/2019 11:24 pm : link
they give you a free gun as you cross the border within the US. Go out into the desert, but don't shoot any cacti.
If you don't mind driving to north jersey  
BigBlue89 : 8/24/2019 11:36 pm : link
Visit this place. High quality establishment with courses for beginners and ladies as well. No permits required.

https://gunforhire.com/academy/beginner-courses/
two things  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2019 12:08 am : link
one is look for a basic pistol safety course (on google) and see what comes up close to you and two look for a local rod and gun club and see what they offer.

I'm in MA, not NY, but similar states in terms of fire arms and I found a course at my local rod and gun club I took and then got my concealed carry permit in MA.

good luck, it's nice your wife is interested in taking advantage of her 2nd amendment rights.
In what county do you live?  
Marty in Albany : 8/25/2019 12:13 am : link
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Start with a .22 rifle which is fairly easy to get and some clubs will  
Marty in Albany : 8/25/2019 12:19 am : link
Train you in gun safety as part of their admission process.
Not sure where you are on LI  
jcn56 : 8/25/2019 12:23 am : link
but check out Phase 3 training in Huntington Station, they'll be able to walk you through the whole process and offer both rifle and pistol training.
You will  
jtfuoco : 8/25/2019 12:33 am : link
need a Conceal carry permit in NY to even handle a pistol in the state or even buy ammo but for rifle and shotguns that is not required.
RE: You will  
section125 : 8/25/2019 6:24 am : link
In comment 14543385 jtfuoco said:
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need a Conceal carry permit in NY to even handle a pistol in the state or even buy ammo but for rifle and shotguns that is not required.


Talk about Catch 22 - you need a conceal carry permit before you learn how to use it? People laugh at FL, but you have to prove you can handle a pistol(even if it is just a few rounds) before you can get the permit, it is part of the training to pass the required class. I'd bet that is true in most states.
When I got my concealed carry permit,  
fivehead : 8/25/2019 8:07 am : link
In my county, I had to submit the application to the county clerk, get fingerprinted, be interviewed by the sheriff, have my background checked, and take a pistol safety class.

In the class, they go over safety, maintenance, handling, and laws. We also shot at targets as part of the training.

With my long guns, I had to fill out a basic background check form with each purchase.
Thanks all...  
trueblueinpw : 8/25/2019 9:28 am : link
We’re in Nassau County. Yeah, this is what I don’t understand, I need a conceal carry permit to take a firearms safety class that includes handguns? My understanding is that it’s pretty much impossible to get a conceal carry here in Nassau unless you’re politically connected or LE.

Anyway, we have a call into Phase Three and hope to get the download from them and some others I found online. I’ll let you guys know how things go but also really want to respect the no politics rule. Appreciate the insights all!
RE: Thanks all...  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2019 10:31 am : link
In comment 14543572 trueblueinpw said:
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We’re in Nassau County. Yeah, this is what I don’t understand, I need a conceal carry permit to take a firearms safety class that includes handguns? My understanding is that it’s pretty much impossible to get a conceal carry here in Nassau unless you’re politically connected or LE.

Anyway, we have a call into Phase Three and hope to get the download from them and some others I found online. I’ll let you guys know how things go but also really want to respect the no politics rule. Appreciate the insights all!


I think you have it backwards, at least for Massachusetts and I believe NY is the same.

First, the only permit most civilians can get in MA is concealed carry. They do not allow open carry like say Texas or other states.

Second, you have to take the safety course BEFORE you can get a permit. It's part of the application process. And in MA at least and I imagine NY is the same, you can go to a range/gun club/other business and get trained without a permit.

You only need a permit to a: buy a firearm b: buy ammo and c: carry

lastly, and even without being an NRA member (I am not one) they have resources to tell you how your municipality is classified. they use a red/green rating on how difficult your town is for issuing permits.

Mine is considered a green town, that meant all I had to do was basically pass the background check and the police chief uses that as the sole determinant in whether to issue a permit or not. Other cities (like where my buddy lives in Natick) they draw the process out much longer and are maybe more thorough and look for reasons to deny a permit.

Hope this helps (and I hope it's true for NY)
thanks pj  
trueblueinpw : 8/25/2019 11:20 am : link
yeah, this is what I’m tripping on, several of the pistol safety classes I’m looking at online, which I found from the NRA site, indicate a conceal carry permit is required to take the class. one would guess you take the class to get the permit. anyhow, guess I’ll clear it all up tomorrow.
TB  
MOOPS : 8/25/2019 4:00 pm : link
You might want to start by reading this handbook.
And give the NCPD Pistol License Section a call if you have questions.
Link - ( New Window )
Go to LI Outdoorsman on Sunrise Hwy in Rockville Center  
Rob in Rockaway : 8/25/2019 5:14 pm : link
they will set you up with whatever you need.

http://www.lioutdoorsman.com/
RE: TB  
trueblueinpw : 8/25/2019 8:01 pm : link
In comment 14544095 MOOPS said:
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You might want to start by reading this handbook.
And give the NCPD Pistol License Section a call if you have questions. Link - ( New Window )


Yahtzee! Just what I needed. Thanks.
Wait, is that correct?  
Capt. : 8/26/2019 7:59 am : link
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you need a Conceal Carry permit in NY to even handle a pistol in the state or evn buy ammo ...


So you can't even own a handgun in your home or buy ammo without a CCP?? Is that really true in NY?
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