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Dallas favored by 7 against the Giants in Week 1...

M.S. : 8/25/2019 9:03 am
...have the bettors got this one right?

My view: Giants have improved, but Dallas looks loaded on both sides of the ball.
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Truth be told, I thought  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/25/2019 9:04 am : link
it'd be higher.
They do  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 8/25/2019 9:05 am : link
Neutral field Dallas by 4 is the line. Tack on 3 points for home field. They are better on both sides of the ball right now.
It’s an interesting line  
UConn4523 : 8/25/2019 9:06 am : link
due to Elliott. His absence makes this a much different game (not that I’m getting my hopes up).
cowpukes D is very active and disruptive  
Torrag : 8/25/2019 9:07 am : link
Tough assignment Week 1 for our rebuilt OL that is likely going to need some time to hit their stride. Especially in run blocking.

If elliot plays this is a tough game to win in Week 1 for us. If he doesn't I think we pull it out.
RE: cowpukes D is very active and disruptive  
Mike in NY : 8/25/2019 9:09 am : link
In comment 14543550 Torrag said:
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Tough assignment Week 1 for our rebuilt OL that is likely going to need some time to hit their stride. Especially in run blocking.

If elliot plays this is a tough game to win in Week 1 for us. If he doesn't I think we pull it out.


If Elliott plays the line should be higher. I don’t trust that the Giants have the horses on D to get off the field and we have questions at WR. The Cowboys front 7 is disruptive.
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Danny Kanell : 8/25/2019 9:10 am : link
I think that’s about right and I would guess 75% or more of the general public will bet Dallas.
Not a gambling man  
DonQuixote : 8/25/2019 9:12 am : link
But I think the Giants win that game
I’ll wait because that line will move  
Tuckrule : 8/25/2019 9:13 am : link
It’ll soar once Elliot signs and all these morons plunk big money on Dallas
Cowboys are so overrated. Without Zeke the Giants win this easy  
PatersonPlank : 8/25/2019 9:17 am : link
with Zeke, at Dallas, its close
The Giants win and do it easily?  
Jimmy Googs : 8/25/2019 9:21 am : link
i need more coffee...
That line sounds right.  
Britt in VA : 8/25/2019 9:21 am : link
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When I hear..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/25/2019 9:22 am : link
people say Dallas is loaded on both sides of the ball, I really wonder where that comes from.

They are really overrated and had a pretty bad offseason.
RE: Truth be told, I thought  
ron mexico : 8/25/2019 9:25 am : link
In comment 14543544 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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it'd be higher.


Probably will go up if the zeke situation gets resolved
NFC East are always tough  
George from PA : 8/25/2019 9:25 am : link
Not sure if there is a big difference on offense.....but Dallas defense, especially the LBers is a big advantage.

Unless, our defense comes together, Elliott stays away....it could be a long day
The easy money in this game  
trueblueinpw : 8/25/2019 9:32 am : link
Bet the over in all the TE props. Witten will get his HOF induction reel even more fattened up with at least 100 receiving yards and not less than 3 TDS.
That team is loaded with talent  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/25/2019 9:37 am : link
Garrett and Zak must be holding them back.
Oh  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/25/2019 9:39 am : link
Take the Giants and the points. 7 points is a lot for a division game.
Written is still playing?  
Marty in Albany : 8/25/2019 9:39 am : link
We’re cooked.
Our Defense will be the biggest ?  
Simms11 : 8/25/2019 9:41 am : link
Going into this game. If they can keep Dallas at or under 21 points, then we might have a shot for an upset?!
Dallas was 5.5 pt favorites week 1 2016  
djm : 8/25/2019 9:53 am : link
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That line sounds about right.  
Gmaniac1 : 8/25/2019 10:02 am : link
That said, as we all know: Division games tend to be close and tough regardless of anything else.

We got a shot in this one.

No doubt that Dallas should be significant favorites, though.
RE: When I hear..  
DonnieD89 : 8/25/2019 10:03 am : link
In comment 14543567 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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people say Dallas is loaded on both sides of the ball, I really wonder where that comes from.

They are really overrated and had a pretty bad offseason.


My exact thought!
Imagine if Zeke was playing...  
ZogZerg : 8/25/2019 10:29 am : link
I guess it would be double digits
Isn't Zeke supposed to sign? I expect he will play.  
Ira : 8/25/2019 10:35 am : link
The Jerry and Zeke preseason dance was interesting, but it's probably close to being done. I think the 7 points is fair. But, if the Zeke signing is held up, I think we have a good shot at taking them.
I thought  
NikkiMac : 8/25/2019 10:36 am : link
They lost like 1/2 their defensive line due to suspensions
I expect  
RickInCharlotte : 8/25/2019 11:01 am : link
Dallas to be excellent week 1 as all players, including the unsigned ones, are motivated to perform. It wouldn't surprise me if Dallas unravels as the year goes on due to locker room issues.
i'll take the Giants and 7 that's a good bet  
gtt350 : 8/25/2019 11:06 am : link
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RE: Dallas was 5.5 pt favorites week 1 2016  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/25/2019 11:07 am : link
djm said:
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I think doubts about Prescott kept that line down. Now he’s an established NFL QB, and it’s the Giants who have an uncertain quarterback situation (at least for much of the betting public), plus no OBJ or his replacement.
Dallas has a built in excuse for losing  
since1925 : 8/25/2019 11:10 am : link
That should balance any extra motivation that "no zeke" provides.
RE: When I hear..  
M.S. : 8/25/2019 11:33 am : link
In comment 14543567 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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people say Dallas is loaded on both sides of the ball, I really wonder where that comes from.

They are really overrated and had a pretty bad offseason.

Along the O-line they have Tyrone Smith, Zack Martin, Connor Williams, La'el Collins and I'm assuming Travis Frederick could be back.

Amari Cooper and Randall Cobb at WR with Zak Prescott pitching the ball and Ezekiel Elliott carrying the ball when he gets back.

There defensive line has been weakened but their linebacking trio of Sean Lee, Jaylon Smith and Leighton Vander Esch should make up for any deficiencies in the D-Line.

And their secondary looks pretty good to me with Anthony Brown and Chidobe Awuzie at CB.

I also have a tremendous amount of respect for their defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli.
Meant to mention DeMarcus Lawrence...  
M.S. : 8/25/2019 11:35 am : link

...along their D-line who is better than anything we have -- by a long shot. He's a 1-man wrecking crew.
la el Collins was there for the taking and Reese passed  
gtt350 : 8/25/2019 11:43 am : link
christ we could have had him and Tunsil (sp).
Jerrah takes chances and they pay off.
7 points?  
mittenedman : 8/25/2019 12:00 pm : link
I like that bet for the Giants.
Dallas is favored by 7 points?  
Klaatu : 8/25/2019 12:04 pm : link
That's all?
Could've been double digits..still may rise to that yet  
micky : 8/25/2019 12:31 pm : link
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RE: When I hear..  
allstarjim : 8/25/2019 12:32 pm : link
In comment 14543567 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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people say Dallas is loaded on both sides of the ball, I really wonder where that comes from.

They are really overrated and had a pretty bad offseason.


Totally agree. Robert Quinn suspended for first 2 games. Randy Gregory suspended indefinitely. Zeke may or may not play, and even if he does, I'm not too concerned. He still has had NO reps with this offense during camp.

I think this team is a lot more physically tougher and talented in the secondary. And 7 points is a lot given the history of these two teams. They lost 36-35 last time they met and 20-13 in wk 2 of last season. Saquon Barkley is such a difference maker (and now with a rebuilt OL) I think this game is a lot closer than people think.
RE: RE: cowpukes D is very active and disruptive  
allstarjim : 8/25/2019 12:32 pm : link
In comment 14543551 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 14543550 Torrag said:


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Tough assignment Week 1 for our rebuilt OL that is likely going to need some time to hit their stride. Especially in run blocking.

If elliot plays this is a tough game to win in Week 1 for us. If he doesn't I think we pull it out.



If Elliott plays the line should be higher. I don’t trust that the Giants have the horses on D to get off the field and we have questions at WR. The Cowboys front 7 is disruptive.


When Elliott reaches his deal and it's announced he will play week 1, which is my expectation, that is the time to bet the Giants, imo.
RE: When I hear..  
DavidinBMNY : 8/25/2019 12:33 pm : link
In comment 14543567 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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people say Dallas is loaded on both sides of the ball, I really wonder where that comes from.

They are really overrated and had a pretty bad offseason.
Dallas has some pieces, and they should be tough down the stretch. At the start of the season, they have a lot of players who aren't game ready. So it will be interesting.
Too much  
jeff57 : 8/25/2019 12:39 pm : link
Without Elliott
Dallas is not overrated  
djm : 8/25/2019 1:08 pm : link
Solid team with a very good OL and defense. Not a perfect team but no one is perfect. Cohesive, solid coaching staff. Their window is open but you usually only get so many shots before something goes wrong or the window closes due to inevitable NFL roster attrition. Dallas has been pretty fortunate the last few years with regards to injury, no matter what anyone says. If Dallas stays healthy again they will be in the mix.
RE: RE: When I hear..  
robbieballs2003 : 8/25/2019 1:58 pm : link
In comment 14543749 M.S. said:
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In comment 14543567 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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people say Dallas is loaded on both sides of the ball, I really wonder where that comes from.

They are really overrated and had a pretty bad offseason.


Along the O-line they have Tyrone Smith, Zack Martin, Connor Williams, La'el Collins and I'm assuming Travis Frederick could be back.

Amari Cooper and Randall Cobb at WR with Zak Prescott pitching the ball and Ezekiel Elliott carrying the ball when he gets back.

There defensive line has been weakened but their linebacking trio of Sean Lee, Jaylon Smith and Leighton Vander Esch should make up for any deficiencies in the D-Line.

And their secondary looks pretty good to me with Anthony Brown and Chidobe Awuzie at CB.

I also have a tremendous amount of respect for their defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli.


Just throwing names out doesn't mean they are stacked. Their LBs are probably the best in the league. Their DL is a mess for multiple reasons. Connor Williams and Collins have been disappointments. Everybody says they hope Dallas pays Dak as a top QB so adding him to the list of names that they are stacked is al little funny to me. Randall Cobb? Come on. You cannot be serious. Fredrick has dealt with some crazy stuff. Great player when healthy but that is an if like their DL being on the field.
I would have more respect for your post if you mentioned  
robbieballs2003 : 8/25/2019 1:59 pm : link
Gallup over Cobb. Hell, I like Gallup more than Cooper. Cooper has had a huge problem with drops and after his little run in Dallas where he put up some great games he came back down to earth really quick.
Rod Marinelli is the man  
robbieballs2003 : 8/25/2019 2:02 pm : link
Very underrated coordinator. He made chicken salad out of chicken shit for years before Dallas improved their talent level on D especially with those LBs.
RE: Dallas is not overrated  
Bluesbreaker : 8/25/2019 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14543901 djm said:
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Solid team with a very good OL and defense. Not a perfect team but no one is perfect. Cohesive, solid coaching staff. Their window is open but you usually only get so many shots before something goes wrong or the window closes due to inevitable NFL roster attrition. Dallas has been pretty fortunate the last few years with regards to injury, no matter what anyone says. If Dallas stays healthy again they will be in the mix.


I agree think the spread should be higher .
With no Zeke it certainly would help with Zeke I think
they will cover .
This is going to be the first regular season game since..  
EricJ : 8/25/2019 2:08 pm : link
we were one of the worst teams in the league. From my perspective, we have to prove that we are better before we can start talking about whether this team has improved.

So, until further notice, Dallas being favored by 7 makes sense.

Side note:
1. our OL did not look good last week.
2. Communication on defense takes a while to develop.
If Last Year’s Final Game Provides Any Indication  
pivo : 8/25/2019 2:26 pm : link
Dallas has stood pat with the lineup they had then, but we believe that we have make some significant improvements. The game must be played of course but we show indications of improving on that result. I guess we’ll have to wait and see...
Dallas team speed on defense is impressive plus  
Rick in Dallas : 8/25/2019 2:44 pm : link
Their DL is very physical with Antuan Woods and Maliek Collins. They expect Lawrence and Crawford to play against the Giants.
Hyder and Charlton have had very good preseasons. May have found a real gem in rookie Trysten Hill.
They will test the shit out of our revamped OL.
Their defense is not overrated with a plus from a great DC
7 points sounds right to me. We need to show we have improved
It's going to be a tough game  
gidiefor : Mod : 8/25/2019 2:51 pm : link
and it's a road game -- we looked visibly off on our fist road game this preseason -- particularly the offensive line -- but there were many sloppy gaffs --

I hope we beat them but it's going to be a real test of whether there has been any improvement in this team
RE: la el Collins was there for the taking and Reese passed  
Scuzzlebutt : 8/25/2019 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14543770 gtt350 said:
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christ we could have had him and Tunsil (sp).
Jerrah takes chances and they pay off.


What chance did Jerry take to get Collins? He signed there as a UDFA.
RE: la el Collins was there for the taking and Reese passed  
BigBlueShock : 8/25/2019 3:18 pm : link
In comment 14543770 gtt350 said:
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christ we could have had him and Tunsil (sp).
Jerrah takes chances and they pay off.

Jerry is the GM and OWNER. He’s not firing himself, so, yeah, Jerry gets to take chances that no other GM can afford to. Earth shattering info there...
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