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Clowney Trade Imminent??

CMicks3110 : 8/25/2019 9:37 pm

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Jadeveon Clowney Likely To Be Traded In Next 24-48 Hours? https://profootballrumors.com/2019/08/jadeveon-clowney-likely-to-be-traded-in-next-24-48-hours
IMMINENT!  
widmerseyebrow : 8/25/2019 9:40 pm : link
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Do we have the cap room or interest?  
BestFeature : 8/25/2019 9:41 pm : link
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That only happens if he signs his FT  
robbieballs2003 : 8/25/2019 9:42 pm : link
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RE: Do we have the cap room or interest?  
Diver_Down : 8/25/2019 9:46 pm : link
In comment 14544392 BestFeature said:
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No and No.

Clowney can't sign a new contract until after the season. He can only play on the FT tender. Houston applied the OLB tender and Clowney still has a grievance with league as he feels it should be the DE tender. A couple mil is the difference. But regardless, we have about $6M in space. Of course, we could always extend Eli and lower his cap hit. ;-)
I hear Lauletta's trade increased ???  
MM_in_NYC : 8/25/2019 9:47 pm : link
Could it be?
RE: I hear Lauletta's trade increased ???  
robbieballs2003 : 8/25/2019 9:48 pm : link
In comment 14544398 MM_in_NYC said:
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Could it be?


Lauletta for Clowney is tough to swallow but I would do it. We can draft another QB next year with the second rounder we got from the Saints.
This comes from a combination of John McClain and Mike Lombardi  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 8/25/2019 9:53 pm : link
I don't know who went out with this first, but they are saying it differently.

McClain is saying the Clowney gets traded for a OT (Tunsil?) while Lombardi is saying WR to complement Hopkins because they can't depend on Fuller (which could mean anyone and is insane).
I am thinking...  
Johnny5 : 8/25/2019 10:02 pm : link
... Clowney for Tunsil.
RE: I am thinking...  
robbieballs2003 : 8/25/2019 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14544416 Johnny5 said:
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... Clowney for Tunsil.


But how does that make sense for Miami?
Would love Houston getting an legit LT  
George from PA : 8/25/2019 10:07 pm : link
Just picked up Watson in fantasy
Watch him go to Philly  
The_Boss : 8/25/2019 10:16 pm : link
For Agholor and some day 3 picks.
Hahahaha, Lauletta? Come on now. They have Watson.  
Anakim : 8/25/2019 10:17 pm : link
No chance they'll do that.







Clowney for Paul Perkins
RE: Hahahaha, Lauletta? Come on now. They have Watson.  
Anakim : 8/25/2019 10:19 pm : link
In comment 14544434 Anakim said:
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No chance they'll do that.







Clowney for Paul Perkins



Okay. Okay.






Clowney for Gallman
RE: RE: I hear Lauletta's trade increased ???  
Motley Two : 8/25/2019 10:33 pm : link
In comment 14544400 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 14544398 MM_in_NYC said:


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Could it be?



Lauletta for Clowney is tough to swallow but I would do it. We can draft another QB next year with the second rounder we got from the Saints.


I thought it was the Saints first rounder?
RE: RE: I am thinking...  
Johnny5 : 8/25/2019 10:36 pm : link
In comment 14544419 robbieballs2003 said:
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... Clowney for Tunsil.



But how does that make sense for Miami?

Good question... lol. I read it somewhere earlier. I'll see if I can find the article. Something about maximizing value for Tunsil ahead of a strong tackle draft next year, and gaining another defensive cornerstone to pair with Christian Wilkins, yada yada.
RE: Hahahaha, Lauletta? Come on now. They have Watson.  
madgiantscow009 : 8/25/2019 10:38 pm : link
In comment 14544434 Anakim said:
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No chance they'll do that.
Clowney for Paul Perkins


jon beason? is the value still there?
With zero pass rushers on this team  
90.Cal : 8/25/2019 10:49 pm : link
I would do it...

Cant be asking for much since he is essentially a one year rental...

Most I'd give is a 3rd round pick...

DG already wasted one of those on Beal (only half serious about Beal), why not go for Clowney??? Dude is easily a top 10 EDGE defender.
Have to admit a 3rd for Clowney would be tempting,  
81_Great_Dane : 8/25/2019 11:07 pm : link
if the Giants could clear the cap space. Presumably that would be the end of Rhett Ellison, for one thing.

Once Eli is traded to the Colts, though, that clears a lot of cap space.
RE: Have to admit a 3rd for Clowney would be tempting,  
FranchiseQB : 8/25/2019 11:16 pm : link
In comment 14544457 81_Great_Dane said:
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if the Giants could clear the cap space. Presumably that would be the end of Rhett Ellison, for one thing.

Once Eli is traded to the Colts, though, that clears a lot of cap space.


a third? maybe if they throw in Deshaun Watson
RE: With zero pass rushers on this team  
robbieballs2003 : 8/25/2019 11:17 pm : link
In comment 14544451 90.Cal said:
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I would do it...

Cant be asking for much since he is essentially a one year rental...

Most I'd give is a 3rd round pick...

DG already wasted one of those on Beal (only half serious about Beal), why not go for Clowney??? Dude is easily a top 10 EDGE defender.


Because, one, they will get more than a third. Two, Clowney controls everything here as he cannot be traded until he is signed. Three, we don't have the cap space. But keep on keeping on.
RE: RE: Have to admit a 3rd for Clowney would be tempting,  
adamg : 8/25/2019 11:18 pm : link
In comment 14544467 FranchiseQB said:
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if the Giants could clear the cap space. Presumably that would be the end of Rhett Ellison, for one thing.

Once Eli is traded to the Colts, though, that clears a lot of cap space.



a third? maybe if they throw in Deshaun Watson


Do you know how draft picks work? It'd take at least a third for a guy like Clowney, who would fetch a third compensatory pick after his FA payday.
Web were gonna get a 3rd for Collins  
Reale01 : 8/25/2019 11:31 pm : link
Could trade one of our third-round picks.

If we were inclined but I don't think we are.

Cap space what cap space..  
prdave73 : 8/26/2019 12:15 am : link
Cowboys can do it, so can the Giants.. I would take a shot. I see it this way, Cowboys, Eagles, both stacked with quality players on both sides. Why can't the Giants?
Don't want  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/26/2019 1:11 am : link
More name, narrative and hype than anything. Don't want an injury prone player at a position you get manhandled for 60 plays by someone 30 lbs heavier. He's not Strahan.
RE: RE: RE: Have to admit a 3rd for Clowney would be tempting,  
FranchiseQB : 8/26/2019 1:19 am : link
In comment 14544471 adamg said:
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In comment 14544467 FranchiseQB said:


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In comment 14544457 81_Great_Dane said:


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if the Giants could clear the cap space. Presumably that would be the end of Rhett Ellison, for one thing.

Once Eli is traded to the Colts, though, that clears a lot of cap space.



a third? maybe if they throw in Deshaun Watson



Do you know how draft picks work? It'd take at least a third for a guy like Clowney, who would fetch a third compensatory pick after his FA payday.


i was being sarcastic.
My bad FQB  
adamg : 8/26/2019 1:32 am : link
You never know
Nah  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 8/26/2019 6:29 am : link
Too many injuries, not enough production.
Of course,  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 8/26/2019 6:30 am : link
if we could get him for Latimer or Golden Tate, I would do it.
Clowney is not a pass rusher  
JonC : 8/26/2019 7:57 am : link
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Clooney was a beast and unblockable in college...  
Spider56 : 8/26/2019 8:18 am : link
Not so much in the pros ... but maybe it’s the scheme and or coaching. Let’s see who bites on him ... that may be telling
RE: Clooney was a beast and unblockable in college...  
PatersonPlank : 8/26/2019 8:24 am : link
In comment 14544557 Spider56 said:
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Not so much in the pros ... but maybe it’s the scheme and or coaching. Let’s see who bites on him ... that may be telling


Lots of players are great in college but not in the pro's. The NFL is a league of the best of the best, all these guys are athletic freaks.
RE: Hahahaha, Lauletta? Come on now. They have Watson.  
PatersonPlank : 8/26/2019 8:25 am : link
In comment 14544434 Anakim said:
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No chance they'll do that.







Clowney for Paul Perkins


Ok, ok. If pushed I'd send both Laulette and Perkins to close it. maybe even role in Tanney. That should do it.
It won't be Clowney for Tunsil.  
mittenedman : 8/26/2019 9:09 am : link
The Dolphins are looking to stockpile draft picks not do player-for-player.

The Giants, however, could really use Clowney and we KNOW they are looking for a stud Edge Rusher. (Remember back to the Chubb interest - still unresolved.)

Gettleman is very active on trades and has already shown an aggressive nature and willingness to part with future picks (Beal). I'm not expecting it but given the Giants needs it wouldn't shock me at all. Particularly since they have so much cap space coming up.
It would be..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/26/2019 9:11 am : link
very un-Gettleman to get Clowney after all of the moves he's made to improve the locker room.
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arcarsenal : 8/26/2019 9:20 am : link
I feel like people just see names they recognize and want Gettleman to throw draft picks or assets away at the drop of a hat.

Clowney isn't a fit here and makes no sense for NYG.
RE: Watch him go to Philly  
smshmth8690 : 8/26/2019 9:22 am : link
In comment 14544433 The_Boss said:
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For Agholor and some day 3 picks.


I was thinking the same thing.
Why trade..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/26/2019 9:24 am : link
to get Agholor?

The Texans are already pretty deep at WR.

If anything, they should make a trade for OL, RB or DB
RE: RE: RE: RE: Have to admit a 3rd for Clowney would be tempting,  
FranchiseQB : 8/26/2019 9:26 am : link
In comment 14544504 FranchiseQB said:
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In comment 14544467 FranchiseQB said:


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In comment 14544457 81_Great_Dane said:


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if the Giants could clear the cap space. Presumably that would be the end of Rhett Ellison, for one thing.

Once Eli is traded to the Colts, though, that clears a lot of cap space.



a third? maybe if they throw in Deshaun Watson



Do you know how draft picks work? It'd take at least a third for a guy like Clowney, who would fetch a third compensatory pick after his FA payday.



i was being sarcastic.


Yea i realize it wasn't clear because there would be folks saying and believing exactly that sound here
I'd  
AcidTest : 8/26/2019 10:42 am : link
be surprised if we trade for Clowney, especially because as others have noted, we simply don't have the cap space.
Facts  
NYG007 : 8/26/2019 10:49 am : link
Clowney has less than half the qb pressures and a 1/3 of the sacks JJ Watt had his first 5 years. Keep in mind he has played with JJ for 4/5 years.

So he doesnt get the double teams and JJ does. Clowney is not at all worth even the tag.
I'm going..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/26/2019 11:40 am : link
to start disregarding any thread titles using the word IMMINENT!!!
Clooney makes  
mittenedman : 8/26/2019 12:13 pm : link
no sense? Are we sure about that?

We may have the worst edge rushers in the NFL.

We need multiple quality pass rushers moving forward.

Lets make no mistake : Clowney is a dominant football player.

Im not even saying I want the trade but to say he makes no sense isn’t true. Not a great fit? You could argue that. But no sense at all-especially since we have a window the next few years?
RE: Clowney is not a pass rusher  
90.Cal : 8/26/2019 2:08 pm : link
In comment 14544542 JonC said:
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Is that from your source?


Of course he is... not many pressure the QB as well as Clowney. Jadeveon gets more QB hits, QB hurries, Sacks and Tackles for a loss than anyone on our team by a mile.
RE: Clooney makes  
arcarsenal : 8/26/2019 2:19 pm : link
In comment 14544868 mittenedman said:
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no sense? Are we sure about that?

We may have the worst edge rushers in the NFL.

We need multiple quality pass rushers moving forward.

Lets make no mistake : Clowney is a dominant football player.

Im not even saying I want the trade but to say he makes no sense isn’t true. Not a great fit? You could argue that. But no sense at all-especially since we have a window the next few years?


He's a very good player. He's absolutely not a dominant player.

If you want to know what a dominant player looks like, you don't even need to go to a different team - just look at the guy who has been playing on the other side of him and gets double and triple teamed regularly.
RE: RE: Clooney makes  
eli4life : 8/26/2019 2:35 pm : link
In comment 14545052 arcarsenal said:
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no sense? Are we sure about that?

We may have the worst edge rushers in the NFL.

We need multiple quality pass rushers moving forward.

Lets make no mistake : Clowney is a dominant football player.

Im not even saying I want the trade but to say he makes no sense isn’t true. Not a great fit? You could argue that. But no sense at all-especially since we have a window the next few years?



He's a very good player. He's absolutely not a dominant player.

If you want to know what a dominant player looks like, you don't even need to go to a different team - just look at the guy who has been playing on the other side of him and gets double and triple teamed regularly.



Playing opposite jj watt he should be tearing it up and just hasn’t and that’s when he can stay on the field
RE: Clooney makes  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/26/2019 2:41 pm : link
In comment 14544868 mittenedman said:
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no sense? Are we sure about that?

We may have the worst edge rushers in the NFL.

We need multiple quality pass rushers moving forward.

Lets make no mistake : Clowney is a dominant football player.

Im not even saying I want the trade but to say he makes no sense isn’t true. Not a great fit? You could argue that. But no sense at all-especially since we have a window the next few years?


Despite having the physical tools to be dominant, Clowney isn't.

That will throw up red flags every time. We may need pass rushers, but we don't need ones that could give a crap about work ethic and will cost something to have the luxury of dealing with that attitude.
The problem with Clowney is he is a good player  
PatersonPlank : 8/26/2019 2:51 pm : link
but wants to be paid like a superstar player. He's solid but never lived up to his hype as the top pick
Imminent:  
pjcas18 : 8/26/2019 3:02 pm : link
im·mi·nent
/ˈimənənt/
adjective

about to happen.
"they were in imminent danger of being swept away"

synonyms: impending, at hand, close, near, approaching, fast approaching, coming, forthcoming, on the way, about to happen, upon us, in store, in the offing, in the pipeline, on the horizon, in the air, in the wind, brewing, looming, looming large; threatening, menacing;
expected, anticipated;
informalin the cards
"there was speculation that a ceasefire was imminent"
90.Cal  
JonC : 8/26/2019 3:40 pm : link
He's not worth the price tag, unless you're short sighted and desperate and asking for trouble. Pay attention to what the Giants are doing ..
RE: Hahahaha, Lauletta? Come on now. They have Watson.  
Vanzetti : 8/26/2019 5:20 pm : link
In comment 14544434 Anakim said:
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No chance they'll do that.







Clowney for Paul Perkins


No way do you do Perkins. He had 26 yards receiving. Houston has to throw in a third and a fifth
He wouldn't fit in Giants schema, he is around same build as JPP  
NephilimGiants : 8/26/2019 7:37 pm : link
Clowney looks more like a edge then a LB
Sending a 2nd rounder for him  
justafan : 8/26/2019 7:49 pm : link
is tempting, but I think we stay the course and build from within. I don't think this team is a pass rusher away and the man has to be paid at the end of the season.
RE: 90.Cal  
arcarsenal : 8/26/2019 7:51 pm : link
In comment 14545127 JonC said:
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He's not worth the price tag, unless you're short sighted and desperate and asking for trouble. Pay attention to what the Giants are doing ..


It makes the team better in Madden, though!
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