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interesting List - Top 100 Giants of All Time

kinard : 8/25/2019 10:42 pm
Good list that goes back 94 years and includes some good old timers.

Highest ranked Giant not in the Ring of Honor? Arnold Weinmeister at #17

Shockey (33) and Beckham (36) too high IMO.

Conspicuously missing? My vote was Mark Collins, but there are plenty of worthy players who didn't make the list.

NY Giants: Who are the Top 100 players in the franchise's 94-year history? - ( New Window )
Ron Stone? Zak DeOssie? Jeff Feagles?  
jmdvm : 8/25/2019 10:52 pm : link
Over Mark Collins, No way. Did I miss John Mendenhall and Jack Gregory? And all the top spots should be filled by HOFers before any one else is added.
Shockey above Beckham?  
BestFeature : 8/25/2019 10:52 pm : link
No way. Shockey was just a good tight end after his rookie season and he was a headache in his own right.
Kerry Collins who choked hard in the Super Bowl  
BestFeature : 8/25/2019 11:02 pm : link
is ahead of Plaxico Burress our #1 WR who made the game-winning catch in a legendary Super Bowl to defeat the 18-0 Pats?
I am very biased  
Marty866b : 8/25/2019 11:07 pm : link
How is Mark Collins not on that list. Arguably, he might have been the best corner in the team's history. IMO, Haynes is the only corner that you can argue was better. Zac Deossie, a long snapper is better then one of the best corners? Ridiculous list!
Ali Haji-Sheikh???  
81_Great_Dane : 8/25/2019 11:10 pm : link
One-year wonder with the Giants. Joe Danelo was better.
Barkley at 45?  
KentGraham : 8/25/2019 11:15 pm : link
C'mon, he had a monster rookie season and hopefully will earn his way into discussion for top 10, but there's no way he should be on that list after one season.
Landon Collins at 57 is an error all the more egregious  
j_rud : 8/25/2019 11:26 pm : link
by sandwiching him between the Hammer and Pepper Johnson. And all due respect to Zak DeOssie but c'mon...94 year history and youre putting a long snapper on the list?

Not all bad though. I actually like the top 10 a lot.
Joe Morrison at 18 is a celebration of mediocrity.  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/26/2019 1:09 am : link
Gimme a break that he's a top 20 all time Giant over, Toomer, Van Pelt and dozens of others.

I get it that Morrison walked Wellington Mara's dog when the Maras went on vacation, but sheesh.

Morrison was a significant part of some of the worst teams in Giants' history.
You lost me at 100  
Giants54 : 8/26/2019 7:15 am : link
Anyone who ranks Homer Jones the 100th top Giant of all time does not understand the history of the Giants.
RE: Joe Morrison at 18 is a celebration of mediocrity.  
Big Blue '56 : 8/26/2019 7:18 am : link
In comment 14544498 BlueLou'sBack said:
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Gimme a break that he's a top 20 all time Giant over, Toomer, Van Pelt and dozens of others.

I get it that Morrison walked Wellington Mara's dog when the Maras went on vacation, but sheesh.

Morrison was a significant part of some of the worst teams in Giants' history.


You obviously never saw Joe Morrison play other than on film, otherwise you would absolutely think differently, imo..I am not sure what arbitrary number he should be assigned, but he’s unquestionably one of better alk-timers
all-timers  
Big Blue '56 : 8/26/2019 7:19 am : link
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That is a fun list to play with.  
WideRight : 8/26/2019 7:27 am : link

Discuss it for a long time.

The only sure thing is that LT is #1.
Without reading the list, my top in no order after LT  
Big Blue '56 : 8/26/2019 7:40 am : link
And only those I saw play:

1-LT

2-Eli

3-Gifford

4-Rosy Brown

5-Conerly

6-Tittle

7-Strahan

8-Tiki

9-Bavaro

10-Homer Jones

11-Robustelli

12-Joe Morrison

13-Erich Barnes

14-Jimmy Patton

15-Harry Carson

16-Ray Wietecha

17-Sam Huff

18-Plax

19-Kareem McKenzie

20-Jack Stroud

21-Del Shofner

22-Leonard Marshall

23-Carl Banks

24-Simms

25-Dave Jennings

I would have said Tunnel, but he was on his last legs when I got to see him. Never saw Mel Hein or other greats of his era.

And yes, I might have short-changed a player or players, but this was off the top of my head and I feel good about this list

Without reading the list, my top 25 in no order after LT  
Big Blue '56 : 8/26/2019 7:41 am : link
And only those I saw play:

1-LT

2-Eli

3-Gifford

4-Rosy Brown

5-Conerly

6-Tittle

7-Strahan

8-Tiki

9-Bavaro

10-Homer Jones

11-Robustelli

12-Joe Morrison

13-Erich Barnes

14-Jimmy Patton

15-Harry Carson

16-Ray Wietecha

17-Sam Huff

18-Plax

19-Kareem McKenzie

20-Jack Stroud

21-Del Shofner

22-Leonard Marshall

23-Carl Banks

24-Simms

25-Dave Jennings

I would have said Tunnel, but he was on his last legs when I got to see him. Never saw Mel Hein or other greats of his era.

And yes, I might have short-changed a player or players, but this was off the top of my head and I feel good about this list

RE: You lost me at 100  
flycatcher : 8/26/2019 7:49 am : link
In comment 14544526 Giants54 said:
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Anyone who ranks Homer Jones the 100th top Giant of all time does not understand the history of the Giants.

Yes, and Bob Tucker #95.
That’s more like it!  
Giants54 : 8/26/2019 7:50 am : link
I agree with Big Blue ‘56. Number 10 is about right for Homer Jones, my all time favorite Giant!
I love stuff like this. A few odd ones percquick review...  
Jimmy Googs : 8/26/2019 8:31 am : link
George Martin was one of my favorite players back in early 80s but way too high on this list.

Dave Jennings and Eli both need to be pushed up.

Antonio Pierce  
crick n NC : 8/26/2019 8:38 am : link
Way too low. Kerry Collins and Zak Deossie ahead of him.
Plax above Simms?  
Frank in Silver Spring : 8/26/2019 8:44 am : link
In what universe? Certainly not this one.
I can't believe how low Ron Johnson and Homer Jones are  
PatersonPlank : 8/26/2019 8:46 am : link
Ron Johnson, IMO, is the best RB we have ever had (not including Barkley right now). The guy was a tremendous player, and a likely HOF guy if not for injuries. He was the Giants first 1,000 rusher (14 games). In his 2 full seasons he had 1,500 and 1,600 total yds. In another season where he played 11 games he still got 1,250 total yards. He could do it all, and to put Morris, etc ahead of him is a travesty.

He's a top 10 in my book
Eli number 10? LOL  
Chris684 : 8/26/2019 9:05 am : link
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It’s a fun list but you need to have some criteria.  
Ivan15 : 8/26/2019 9:13 am : link
If it is just about a player’s impact on winning or losing, or how other teams needed to account for his presence, the skill players would be closest to the top of the list.

No matter the criteria, Taylor has to be at the top, and I don’t see how Beckham isn’t in the top 10.

Fun just to recall all the names of some very good players.
RE: Without reading the list, my top 25 in no order after LT  
Les in TO : 8/26/2019 9:14 am : link
In comment 14544531 Big Blue '56 said:
Quote:
And only those I saw play:

1-LT

2-Eli

3-Gifford

4-Rosy Brown

5-Conerly

6-Tittle

7-Strahan

8-Tiki

9-Bavaro

10-Homer Jones

11-Robustelli

12-Joe Morrison

13-Erich Barnes

14-Jimmy Patton

15-Harry Carson

16-Ray Wietecha

17-Sam Huff

18-Plax

19-Kareem McKenzie

20-Jack Stroud

21-Del Shofner

22-Leonard Marshall

23-Carl Banks

24-Simms

25-Dave Jennings

I would have said Tunnel, but he was on his last legs when I got to see him. Never saw Mel Hein or other greats of his era.

And yes, I might have short-changed a player or players, but this was off the top of my head and I feel good about this list
Eli above Strahan??? Strahan was consistently excellent throughout his career. Year in year out he was a force to be reckoned with. Eli showed up to work consistently but attendance does not equal greatness
I would add  
Steve in ATL : 8/26/2019 9:24 am : link
Mark Collins, Fred Dryer, and Rob Carpenter to that 100 list.
RE: RE: Without reading the list, my top 25 in no order after LT  
dep026 : 8/26/2019 9:32 am : link
In comment 14544607 Les in TO said:
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Eli showed up to work consistently but attendance does not equal greatness


Boy if there was ever a comment made for the poster who made it... wouldn’t this be the one?
Les, READ: I said in my post start:  
Big Blue '56 : 8/26/2019 10:04 am : link
Without reading the list, my top 25, in no order after LT
Listen it's an opinion list but....  
Torrag : 8/26/2019 10:42 am : link
...imo that list sucks.
RE: RE: Joe Morrison at 18 is a celebration of mediocrity.  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/26/2019 11:05 am : link
In comment 14544527 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 14544498 BlueLou'sBack said:


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Gimme a break that he's a top 20 all time Giant over, Toomer, Van Pelt and dozens of others.

I get it that Morrison walked Wellington Mara's dog when the Maras went on vacation, but sheesh.

Morrison was a significant part of some of the worst teams in Giants' history.



You obviously never saw Joe Morrison play other than on film, otherwise you would absolutely think differently, imo..I am not sure what arbitrary number he should be assigned, but he’s unquestionably one of better alk-timers


I prolly didn't see him play in person in his prime Fiddy, as my first game in person was 1970 or so.

But countless times I heard Marty Glickman talk up a Joe Morrison run or catch as if he was Gayle Sayers, only to end his play by play description with "... gain of two yards, second and eight!"

Then we got Ron Johnson for a brief bit before he wrecked his knee, and suddenly some of those two yards runs or catches went for 20+ yards, and TDs.

I admit I recall him more as a runner than a receiver, which is prolly unfair and to his detriment. But Saquon had almost as many TDs rushing in his rookie year as Morrison did in his career and 677 touches rushing the ball.

He's almost surely rated too high above several Hall of Famers and guys with championship rings.
RE: I would add  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/26/2019 11:07 am : link
In comment 14544620 Steve in ATL said:
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Mark Collins, Fred Dryer, and Rob Carpenter to that 100 list.


Very good suggestions all from the modern era teams I grew up with.
Three other guys should be there at the expense of Ali Haji-Sheikh  
kinard : 8/26/2019 11:26 am : link
Gary Reasons, Erik Howard John Mendenhall
I haven't bothered to even look at the list. Here's my take.  
Red Dog : 8/26/2019 12:55 pm : link
Been watching the GIANTS since the 1955 season.

No doubt that LT is the best of the best.

I saw Joe Morrison's entire career, and agree that he was a mediocrity, albeit a long-serving mediocrity. Personally I think he's near the end of the Top 100 list if he even makes it at all. And ditto that except length of service for Fran Tarkington. These are two of the most over-rated players in all of New York GIANTS history. Also agree that Ali Haji-Sheikh is a questionable choice - it's mostly on the basis of one record season.

Emlen Tunnell, Mel Hein, Ken Strong, and many other old timers belong on that list. In the case of these three guys, all belong very high on that list. And how about Benny Friedman?

Roosevelt Brown is largely unknown to today's writers and fans, but he's a Hall of Famer and one of the all-time greatest LOTs to EVER play the game. He could do things that no other OT in the league could do. So he'd better be in the top ten.

Frank Gifford was probably the most versatile player who ever donned an NFL uniform. Played DHB, HB, Flanker, QB, PK, and Punted. Best ever at the HB-option pass. Definitely top ten.

Rob Carpenter belongs there somewhere low on the list. He wasn't around a long time, but he did carry the GIANTS on his back to their first playoff appearance in fifteen years. That's a significant achievement.



Plax is far better than #89  
Sonic Youth : 8/26/2019 1:20 pm : link
And he's definitely above Collins.

I like Stapleton, but this list sucks.

Also, OBJ was far and away the Giants greatest offensive skill player, other than MAYBE Tiki (and he's probably over Tiki...hopefully Saquon changes that).

him being below Shockey is a joke
RE: Plax is far better than #89  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/29/2019 1:01 am : link
In comment 14544971 Sonic Youth said:
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And he's definitely above Collins.

I like Stapleton, but this list sucks.

Also, OBJ was far and away the Giants greatest offensive skill player, other than MAYBE Tiki (and he's probably over Tiki...hopefully Saquon changes that).

him being below Shockey is a joke


This is an atrocious, childish take. Bavaro was prolly a greater and more significant Giant than Plax and OBJ combined. And OBJ's Giant career doesn't scratch Tiki's, or Eli's if you're talking all Offensive skills positions.
No Jeff Hostetler?  
Saquads Barkley : 8/29/2019 2:31 am : link
That's BS.
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