Until Golden Tate returns, the Giants will have only one wide receiver who has accomplished much of anything in the NFL. And even Sterling Shepard doesn’t strike fear in defenders’ hearts. He’s a great #3, a good #2, and nobody’s idea of a #1. But #1 he is on this squad, for at least a month and perhaps all year. The rest of the depth chart? Meh.
So, what to do? We already knew this team would make heavy use of 12 personnel, because Evan Engram is probably their second most potent weapon, and Rhett Ellison is a reliable pro. By adding Eric Tomlinson, the Giants seem to setting up an even greater emphasis on multi-TE packages. It’s a further hint that our fourth and fifth WRs are primarily special teamers, and #6 - the speedster of the bunch - probably won’t dress for a while.
The main goal, of course, is to establish the run with Barkley and keep the defense off the field. But I think Manning and the passing game could surprise. Engram’s WR-like skill set allows them to run a fairly diverse attack with two or three TEs on the field. They can also throw somewhat credibly with 22 or even (maybe) 23 personnel, because Saquon is a dynamic receiver and Penny is a viable option. And we can usually count on Eli to find the right matchup, especially facing an eight-man front.
What say you, BBI? Lipstick on a pig? Sriracha on a shit sandwich? Or maybe, just maybe, making lemonade from the lemons on our roster?
I think it could be tough sledding on 3rd down when our QB will be throwing threw a lot of tight coverages and angles to gain the required yardages. Can the o-line hold up without to many negative plays/penalties?
The Tight End play will need to be a massive help and Ellison is going to need to be more of a threat in passing games and Engram more helpful in blocking game. This to me is critical and when they succeed we will be pretty solid and when they don't...
The pass rush, well, that's a different situation. They have a whole bunch of guys who've never done it (Lawrence, Ximenes, Connolly, the rookie DBs) or only done it a little (Hill, McIntosh, Carter). The Giants can have a functional passing game if the QB plays well and the receivers are just who they seem to be. They don't need everybody to exceed their previous level. I think the opposite is true with the pass rush. Almost everybody has to step up. But, as noted here before, there's a correlation between secondary play and sacks. Gonna need some coverage sacks.
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The offense is going to have manufacture a passing attack.
I think Eli can distribute the ball to this group just fine, and they'll throw to Barkley as well as the TEs and WRs. They'll be ok. They have a couple of guys who are playmakers (Barkley, Engram), a couple of guys who are pretty good and could thrive (Tate, SS) and a bunch of guys who are ok. Guys who are "ok" are underrated IMO. It's the guys who AREN'T ok that kill you.
Eli is only part of the equation. These guys have to get open against real defenses to be able to get a ball. That's on them, not Eli, and whether they're up to the task is yet unproven. It's not even about Eli.
You could view NYGs 2-TE formation as more of an attribute than a contingency, and as opposing D’s game plan to stop it our WR’s will get more open space.
I just hope the defense can keep games close, or hold late leads so we can win the close ones.
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The offense is going to have manufacture a passing attack.
I think Eli can distribute the ball to this group just fine, and they'll throw to Barkley as well as the TEs and WRs. They'll be ok. They have a couple of guys who are playmakers (Barkley, Engram), a couple of guys who are pretty good and could thrive (Tate, SS) and a bunch of guys who are ok. Guys who are "ok" are underrated IMO. It's the guys who AREN'T ok that kill you.
Eli is only part of the equation. These guys have to get open against real defenses to be able to get a ball. That's on them, not Eli, and whether they're up to the task is yet unproven. It's not even about Eli.
I think the most important part of the equation is the play of the offensive line (and the importance of our starters staying relatively healthy). I've said this before, but I think it's worth repeating - as the offensive line goes, so goes the offense. So, while I hope to see quite a bit of creativity on offense, success or failure will most likely be determined by how well (or how poorly) the offensive line plays.
It seems to me that they have already passed that manufacture and are clicking very well evidence of that shows in the points being scored by Giants ...... because I believe and I know forget preseason but using this preseason and the last 6 games I think 🤔 not sure but they have got to be averaging close to 30 points a game..... I feel besides Barkley the strength of this team is these scrappy receivers and tight ends ..... one thing I would like to see them do is get Penny some more touches also ... One thing I think Eli can still do and that’s spread the ball around ......
and running out of the 11 is more efficient than the 22
I think we are going to see a lot of two TE sets this year (22), and a ton of Play Action, which is another Analytics favorite for play efficiency
and running out of the 11 is more efficient than the 22
I think we are going to see a lot of two TE sets this year (22), and a ton of Play Action, which is another Analytics favorite for play efficiency
I think it's imperative that they show they can run the ball effectively, regardless of the set. Again, it's all going to come down to blocking up front.
likewise in the 11 you have to guard agains the pass so that potentially pulls more players off the line