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Giants released Nate Stupar

pjcas18 : 9/6/2019 11:16 am
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The Giants released LB Nate Stupar. A reserve linebacker who played a big role on special teams.
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Who Did He Piss Off?  
Samiam : 9/6/2019 3:18 pm : link
Cutting a veteran right after the cutdown to 53 players? Stupar was not brought here to play LB except if someone got hurt. No one should be surprised he was not good. What he did well, and he did it very well was special teams. People have short memories. How long ago was it that the Giants lost multiple games because the special teams sucked?
There are currently two TEs on the current roster  
ChicagoMarty : 9/6/2019 3:36 pm : link
who are healthy and know the plays.

Conrad would make a third.

Jints are allegedly going to emphasize TEs in their game-planning hence it would behoove them to actually have TEs who are healthy and know the plays in order to implement said game plan.
RE: Could  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/6/2019 3:53 pm : link
Toth029 said:
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Be Marshall on Monday.
Tuesday would be more apt. It's his Thirtieth birthday.
RE: There are currently two TEs on the current roster  
pjcas18 : 9/6/2019 4:24 pm : link
In comment 14561569 ChicagoMarty said:
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who are healthy and know the plays.

Conrad would make a third.

Jints are allegedly going to emphasize TEs in their game-planning hence it would behoove them to actually have TEs who are healthy and know the plays in order to implement said game plan.


Are you not counting Engram as a TE? Or are you suggesting some of these guys don't know the plays or are injured?

Because as far as I know, the Giants currently have 4 TE's on the 53-man roster Engram, Ellison, Dickerson and Tomlinson. Conrad would make a 5th.

Dickerson is hurt and has not practiced  
ChicagoMarty : 9/6/2019 4:47 pm : link
the new guy doesn't know the plays, the protections, the calls etc.

So we have Engram and Ellison who actually can carry out a TE centric game plan as of today.

Conrad would be a third TE who knows the plays and is healthy.

RE: Nice call 3B  
5BowlsSoon : 9/6/2019 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14561332 Big Blue Blogger said:
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RobCarpenter said:

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I get that it didn’t happen exactly the way I predicted, but I wasn’t that far off.

Hold my beer. A week ago, after the 49ers released Mayo, I predicted that the Giants would sign him and that he would replace Stupar.


So what is it that makes you like Mayo so much?
ChicagoMarty: I think Tomlinson will dress, and have a narrow role.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/6/2019 4:48 pm : link
With Stupar gone and Jones active, the inactives for Sunday seem pretty well set:
WR (1) Slayton (injury)
TE (1) Dickerson (injury)
OL (2) Choose from Gates/Slade/Smith
QB (1) Tanney
DB (1) Love
NA (1) Empty roster spot

Actives would be 22 Defense, 21 Offense, 3 Special Teams. Might be more accurate to say 21, 19, and 6, because Core, Mayo and Russell Shepard are basically dressing to play specials.

Paul Perkins is also a possibility, if they want to dress eight OL or have Love available. The extra offensive lineman becomes more plausible if Remmers is iffier than he and the staff are letting on.

RE: Nice call 3B  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/6/2019 4:59 pm : link
5BowlsSoon said:
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So what is it that makes you like Mayo so much?
Nothing, TBH. Just a lucky guess, based on the Carolina/GM/coaching connection, and the fact that any solid LB/STer would be an upgrade over what Stupar appeared to have left in the tank.

It would be interesting to know whether the Giants pursued Mayo in the offseason but simply got outbid by San Francisco. At the time, maybe they thought Stupar was better. In any case, he was cheaper.
RE: Shurmur mentioned  
Jay in Toronto : 9/6/2019 5:41 pm : link
In comment 14561269 bLiTz 2k said:
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That there are no plans to fill the vacancy this week, which leads me to believe they have a veteran that they wanna bring in for a workout after Monday. If they sign a vet after the cowboy game the salary is not guaranteed.


That was my supposition. I imagine they are allowed to talk to available vets?
ST returns  
5BowlsSoon : 9/6/2019 6:20 pm : link
Does not seem to be important if we are risking Peppers on PR and we have Latimer on KR.
RE: Who Did He Piss Off?  
eclipz928 : 9/6/2019 6:46 pm : link
In comment 14561543 Samiam said:
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Cutting a veteran right after the cutdown to 53 players?

Does anyone have an answer to this question? What's the reason for putting Stupar on the 53-man roster, but then cutting him at this point without a free agent addition?
Week 1 vested vet guarantee  
Sneakers O'toole : 9/6/2019 6:55 pm : link
They cut him before sunday most likely to avoid that, and may holding off on officially signing whoever it is that they have in mind for that spot until next week for the same reason.

Vested vets on the roster for game one have guaranteed base salary for the year.
If that was the main factor  
eclipz928 : 9/6/2019 6:59 pm : link
then why not cut Stupar instead of Goodson when they acquired Mayo?
I don't know what you mean by main factor  
Sneakers O'toole : 9/6/2019 7:02 pm : link
The roster moves aren't complete yet. We are 9nly at 52.
You suggested that maybe he was cut to avoid  
eclipz928 : 9/6/2019 7:22 pm : link
paying the guarantee for being a vested veteran - but that wouldn't have been an issue if they kept Goodson on the roster instead of Stupar, right?
I would guess because the Giants knew Green Bay  
Sneakers O'toole : 9/6/2019 7:52 pm : link
had interest in Goodson. They did a solid for the player by helping him land there
That's possible, but I think it's equally  
eclipz928 : 9/7/2019 12:05 am : link
dickish of the Giants to keep a guy on the roster, who they seem to not have wanted to hold on to from the start, all the way up to just 48 hours before the first game of the season.
eclipz  
XBRONX : 9/7/2019 8:08 am : link
Doesnt make a difference. Stupar stinks at LB. Who is waiting to sign him?
RE: No Goodson or Stupar  
Carson53 : 9/7/2019 8:56 am : link
In comment 14561143 RobCarpenter said:
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Makes me a happy man.
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I would concur with that.
I'm not some one who thinks Stupar  
eclipz928 : 9/7/2019 9:09 am : link
should have been on the roster in the first place - but these players are people. Unless there's a specific reason we don't know about, I don't think it's right to wait until this late to cut a player.

And it does make a difference - at this moment the Giants do not have a full 53 man roster, which isn't a huge deal but there's no advantage to doing that. And it's a missed opportunity for some player out there who doesn't have a team or a paycheck this week.
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