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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/6/2019 1:19 pm
FYI...


Preview: New York Giants at Dallas Cowboys, September 8, 2019 - ( New Window )
Pretty similar outlook  
Thegratefulhead : 9/6/2019 1:40 pm : link
A break early would be nice.

We are not built for big comebacks.

I am praying we do not throw an interception on our first throw or series. Please no early game turnovers.

Dallas is in my head as a fan. I feel like shit always goes wacko when we play them and the wacko never helps us.

I feel this team needs to play mistake free, solid fundamental football to win in Dallas.

Even if they lose I would strongly prefer Eli plays very well.

I think this season gets out hand fast if the calls for Jones start game one. That kind of stuff divides and distracts a team.
Thanks so much for informative game review...  
M.S. : 9/6/2019 1:43 pm : link

...always look forward to reading them.

Running straight at the Dallas D is one tactic I hope pays dividends this Sunday. Their LBers flow so quickly it's really hard to stretch the field and get a soft corner on them.

Every "rational" thought I have about this game comes down to the following: This is a bad game to judge this Giants team; Dallas is simply superior; they will come out sky high at home in their season opener; and they will play keep away with the ball.

But maybe the Giants catch the Cowboys reading their own press clippings. Maybe there has been one too many distractions, beginning with the "will he / won't he" signing of their star running back.

I don't think for a hot New York minute the Giants can come from behind to beat this Dallas team. A win means we came out early, threw several round house punches; landed a few; and before Dallas could totally regain their composure the clock ran out on them!

Giants 24
Dallas 21
M.S.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/6/2019 1:48 pm : link
It drives me nuts when teams try to outrun fast linebackers... it's not that Saquon can't outrun these guys to the corner... the linebackers usually get there before the blockers. I'd run off tackle and up the gut on these guys.

The thing is this... if they want to cross Dallas up early, Eli has to connect or we're going to be in deep shit.
RE: M.S.  
M.S. : 9/6/2019 1:56 pm : link
In comment 14561350 Eric from BBI said:
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It drives me nuts when teams try to outrun fast linebackers... it's not that Saquon can't outrun these guys to the corner... the linebackers usually get there before the blockers. I'd run off tackle and up the gut on these guys.

The thing is this... if they want to cross Dallas up early, Eli has to connect or we're going to be in deep shit.

I hear ya!
I don't expect the Giants to win Sunday  
Chris684 : 9/6/2019 1:59 pm : link
which kind of sucks during the lead up to the game but maybe in the big picture always works out better.

Them winning a game I expect them to lose is obviously way better than them losing a game I expect to win.

Sunday night my only 2 outcomes are either knowing what I thought was going to happen, or very, very pumped up for a big early win which could shape the season.
I watch a lot of games with my dad  
bceagle05 : 9/6/2019 2:10 pm : link
and every time the Giants get stuffed on an outside run attempt versus Dallas, my dad says, "Can't run outside on these guys." I've heard him say it a hundred times the last few years - at first I kinda rolled my eyes, but he's absolutely right. No point in trying.
RE: I watch a lot of games with my dad  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/6/2019 2:26 pm : link
In comment 14561421 bceagle05 said:
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and every time the Giants get stuffed on an outside run attempt versus Dallas, my dad says, "Can't run outside on these guys." I've heard him say it a hundred times the last few years - at first I kinda rolled my eyes, but he's absolutely right. No point in trying.


Yup, it's practically a wasted play.

Also, look for Shumur to try to set up that wheel route to Barkley. That's a bread-and-butter play for us.
Sad but true:  
CT Charlie : 9/6/2019 2:29 pm : link
it feels like our inability to stop 3rd-and-long -- or to make 3rd-and short -- has defined us for most of a decade.
......  
Klaatu : 9/6/2019 2:36 pm : link
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THE FINAL WORD:
My heart says “Screw the Cowboys! We can beat the media darlings!” My head says these two teams are in vastly different places right now. The Giants may have a respectable year, but their first win is not likely to be on opening day. If the Giants do lose, Eli Manning will immediately be feeling the heat.


Suppose Eli plays well but the rest of the team - especially the defense - plays like crap? Suppose the offensive line isn't nearly as improved as we've hoped, the run game suffers because of it, and Eli is under constant duress? Suppose his receivers let him down? They're not the most sure-handed bunch to begin with. If Eli plays like crap, then yes, he should absolutely feel the heat. But if he doesn't and the Giants still lose the game, blaming him for the loss would be grossly unfair.
Klaatu  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/6/2019 2:42 pm : link
Facts don't matter; emotions do.

I've seen this before back in the early 1990s.
Typo...  
Dan in the Springs : 9/6/2019 2:45 pm : link
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The divisive figure for fans is quarterback Zak Prescott.


it's Dak Prescott, not Zak.
Matriculate the ball down the field?  
12aob : 9/6/2019 2:49 pm : link
I’ve never seen matriculate used this way. But sadly we may indeed spend Sunday going to school.
RE: Matriculate the ball down the field?  
Klaatu : 9/6/2019 2:51 pm : link
In comment 14561501 12aob said:
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I’ve never seen matriculate used this way. But sadly we may indeed spend Sunday going to school.


Here ya go, kid.
RE: Matriculate the ball down the field?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/6/2019 2:52 pm : link
In comment 14561501 12aob said:
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I’ve never seen matriculate used this way. But sadly we may indeed spend Sunday going to school.


As posted above, this was an homage to Hank Stram.
RE: Typo...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/6/2019 2:54 pm : link
In comment 14561491 Dan in the Springs said:
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The divisive figure for fans is quarterback Zak Prescott.



it's Dak Prescott, not Zak.


Oh, suck some Dak.
Dak's Got This - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Matriculate the ball down the field?  
12aob : 9/6/2019 2:54 pm : link
In comment 14561504 Klaatu said:
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In comment 14561501 12aob said:


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I’ve never seen matriculate used this way. But sadly we may indeed spend Sunday going to school.


Thanks - forgot about that!


Here ya go, kid.
RE: RE: RE: Matriculate the ball down the field?  
12aob : 9/6/2019 2:57 pm : link
In comment 14561511 12aob said:
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In comment 14561504 Klaatu said:


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In comment 14561501 12aob said:


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I’ve never seen matriculate used this way. But sadly we may indeed spend Sunday going to school.


Thanks - forgot about that!


Here ya go, kid.






Damn posting on a phone - places my comment within the previous post again.

Thanks for the link - I’d long forgotten Stram’s line.
RE: Matriculate the ball down the field?  
Bluesbreaker : 9/6/2019 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14561501 12aob said:
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I’ve never seen matriculate used this way. But sadly we may indeed spend Sunday going to school.
That would be one Hank Stram who used the term matriculate and
few ever heard the term before he used it .

Good review Eric Hate 4 pm games  
Bluesbreaker : 9/6/2019 3:14 pm : link
It's like were the sacrificial lambs for the Cryboys
No question they are a talented team and well coached .
But man a win down there would certainly be FU to
BSPN and other bandwagon fans the lap dogs .
Eli will have to play mistake free and make some great
throws to pull this off
If anyone can its Eli !
I'd look for some misdirection  
PEEJ : 9/6/2019 3:14 pm : link
and maybe a gadget or two
Not saying this is only thing, but unless we get a helmet  
Jimmy Googs : 9/6/2019 3:21 pm : link
on both Smith and Vander Esch early and often, this won’t go well...
Beating the Cowboys and beating their running game are the same thing  
BillT : 9/6/2019 3:34 pm : link
If they can churn out the yards running you have almost no chance to beat them. Now that's true of most teams but most teams don't rely on it like the Cowboys do. I don't know if we can do that but I don't know we can't either. Lots to learn about the Giants but I don't see this as some bellwether either. Dallas is very good and should win at home. We have a number of more winnable games coming up soon. A good solid effort could go a long way.
RE: M.S.  
RDJR : 9/6/2019 3:39 pm : link
In comment 14561350 Eric from BBI said:
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It drives me nuts when teams try to outrun fast linebackers... it's not that Saquon can't outrun these guys to the corner... the linebackers usually get there before the blockers. I'd run off tackle and up the gut on these guys.

The thing is this... if they want to cross Dallas up early, Eli has to connect or we're going to be in deep shit.


Saquon likes to bounce it outside, he needs to stay disciplined.
Eric, I actually think it’s a good game  
Dave on the UWS : 9/6/2019 4:27 pm : link
for a measuring stick. Dallas (and Philly) have owned us because of 1. Superior OL and 2. Superior front 7. If we show we’ve closed the gap, the game should be competitive. Where we have an advantage, is Barkley can make the difference in close, competitive games. What I’m expecting, is a more effective offense than many expect and an inconsistent defense. Looking great one play and blown off the ball the next. A 31-24 Cowboy win would not surprise me.
I am thinking its going to be a close loss  
Dinger : 9/6/2019 4:47 pm : link
for the Giants. I am hoping they at least show up prepared and ready to play. But either way, I think this is the first week of a QB controversy no matter how Eli/The Giants play.
Great write up.....hit the emotional tone of all us.  
George from PA : 9/6/2019 5:36 pm : link
Heart...says believe.

Brain....says why bother.

Fans will go in with heart...until the facts direct us otherwise.
RDJR...  
M.S. : 9/6/2019 5:36 pm : link

...I've always been of two minds about Saquon bouncing runs to the outside. Sometimes he messes up and takes a loss, or bigger loss than had he just plowed straight ahead, and ultimately puts his team in a hole.

Then, again, sometimes he breaks off a long run by bouncing to the outside!

Maybe it comes down to situational football and the risk / reward. If, for example, the Giants have first and ten at their own 12 yard line and he bounces outside for a 5-yard loss rather than a 1-yard gain, then the offense is in trouble.

And if it's third and six and there is zero hole for him to run through, then maybe it's worth the risk for him to freestyle a little!

Clearly, it's a fine line with no hard and fast rules.

RE: RE: Matriculate the ball down the field?  
Festina Lente : 9/6/2019 6:03 pm : link
In comment 14561504 Klaatu said:
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In comment 14561501 12aob said:


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I’ve never seen matriculate used this way. But sadly we may indeed spend Sunday going to school.



Here ya go, kid.


that's because it doesn't make any sense lol
Good Overview  
Festina Lente : 9/6/2019 6:06 pm : link
Truth is, my hope is not so much to win but to avoid getting blown out, but I am a pessimist at times. I have little confidence in our defense and I hope that our coach and motley group of recievers find a way to make our offense a little less one-dimensional/predictable. If they manage that I'd be pleased; anything more, including a win, would just be a bonus.
Bouncing it outside is fine,  
Simms11 : 9/6/2019 6:06 pm : link
as long as our TEs are out there blocking. Key in this game along the front is the TE blocking IMO. Would also like to see Penny smash one or two of this LBers as well!
Play action  
armstead98 : 9/6/2019 6:18 pm : link
Pass to Engram looking to break a big one

That's how we break them
The team that wins on 1st down...  
Capt. Don : 9/6/2019 6:26 pm : link
wins the game.
Again this season is about when or if Daniel Jones  
micky : 9/6/2019 6:45 pm : link
takes the reigns and begin new era..(or tries to)
Great  
AcidTest : 9/6/2019 6:48 pm : link
preview. Somebody other than Saquon needs to produce. On defense, we need to get to Dak.
Two keys  
jvm52106 : 9/6/2019 7:00 pm : link
not talked about much:

Giants using multiple TE's and throwing from that package- in that case Engram is not they key but Ellison is. He will be faced with LB only coverage. If they call for passes with this personnel package Ellison has to make 2-3 quality grabs for positive yardage,

Secondly, Cody Latimer has size and decent speed. The Giants need to look to expose the Boys 20-30 yards down the field with Latimer. A couple of completions will pull LB's and safeties back some and open up the middle for Engram and the swing passes for Barkley.
RE: Two keys  
christian : 9/6/2019 7:42 pm : link
In comment 14561742 jvm52106 said:
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not talked about much:

Giants using multiple TE's and throwing from that package- in that case Engram is not they key but Ellison is. He will be faced with LB only coverage. If they call for passes with this personnel package Ellison has to make 2-3 quality grabs for positive yardage,

Secondly, Cody Latimer has size and decent speed. The Giants need to look to expose the Boys 20-30 yards down the field with Latimer. A couple of completions will pull LB's and safeties back some and open up the middle for Engram and the swing passes for Barkley.


Latimer has 2 catches over 20 yards in his 5 year career. If he shows up Sunday and exposes the Cowboys deep, that will be a revelation.
This season is about a few things for me  
GiantsFan84 : 9/6/2019 9:39 pm : link
First it's about Jones and the young kids playing and improving and staying healthy. I honestly don't care if they have a bad record this year.

Second, it's about seeing if Shurmur improves his game and time management skills.
I see the Giants getting swamped by the Cowboys (35-17 or worse)  
GeofromNJ : 9/6/2019 9:40 pm : link
I wish I could be as optimistic as Dottino and Carl Banks who think the Giants can win this game and possibly win 9-10 games and compete for a playoff spot, but I just don't think they have enough speed and skill on offense and defense to compete with the better teams. I think it's going to be a long season and I am not going to like it one bit.
If we block like we should we can win  
jmalls23 : 9/7/2019 12:35 am : link
We paid Eli 23mm. We should win games
On Inside the NfL, they all picked against the Giants  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 9/7/2019 7:43 am : link
That would be Phis Simms, Ray Lewis, and Brandon Marshall. The three of them all also picked the bears to beat the Packers, so give their picks all the credibility that they are worth.
Game  
stretch234 : 9/7/2019 8:12 am : link
It would be nice if the Giants actually get the lead. Every year in Dallas seems like they are behind after the first or second drive.

I move Barkley in motion a bunch and get The TE involved early and often. LB’s, even as good as their don’t like to run and chase they want to attack. Take the attack to them.

Adequate OL blocking in the run game is paramount, especially the inside when the offense is in the short yardage to keep drives alive

Get off the field on 3rd down

I see this game 1 of 2 ways. Giants are out of it before halftime being down 2 TDS with 0-3 points or this game is tied late and is won by late FG

I hope they win, I think they can win, I would like to believe they will win. I don’t expect them to win
Hopefully the Oline  
Simms11 : 9/7/2019 8:40 am : link
looks the part and gives Eli time, as well as opening holes for SBark. I do think that DJ would probably be a tougher guy to defend with his mobility, but it’s still the Eli show.
Week 1 is so fun  
Dankbeerman : 9/7/2019 1:20 pm : link
The eternal optmist in me has yet to be punched in the mouth.

I feel we will be in a position to win this game and need a big stop and a drive late.

wether we can get either or both will tell us a lot about the team for the year.

Lets go Blue!
The Giant - Cowboy openers  
Dave on the UWS : 9/7/2019 7:39 pm : link
have been close by and large, despite the talent differences. If NY plays well, this one should be close as well.
RE: M.S.  
Giantz_comeback : 9/8/2019 12:52 am : link
In comment 14561350 Eric from BBI said:
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It drives me nuts when teams try to outrun fast linebackers... it's not that Saquon can't outrun these guys to the corner... the linebackers usually get there before the blockers. I'd run off tackle and up the gut on these guys.

The thing is this... if they want to cross Dallas up early, Eli has to connect or we're going to be in deep shit.


Outside runs will need to be more based on generating flow in the opposite direction and using their speed against them. Misdirections and counters that are well timed will be key. Saquon up the middle with our improved interior will also be key. Not having Tate stinks but we will really find out if we the lower tier WRs can still be effective like they were late last year in key spots. Also Engram may be a key factor too.
f jerrah  
Dave : 9/8/2019 11:41 am : link
eli makes a statement
nyg win
RE: RE: Matriculate the ball down the field?  
Dave : 9/8/2019 11:43 am : link
In comment 14561507 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14561501 12aob said:


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I’ve never seen matriculate used this way. But sadly we may indeed spend Sunday going to school.



As posted above, this was an homage to Hank Stram.


do you remember his classic 'hi didi diddle, right up the middle'!
I hayted stramm
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