I really think based on his skill set (why leave talent on the bench), and based on Shurmur's quote "Eli is our starter and Daniel is getting ready to play"....
Some have agreed with me, and some are saying "no way"
What does everyone think? they design a few plays for him to come in and run, maybe the read option, or maybe to fool the Cowboys in thinking its a run and he hits Engram in the seam...
What does everyone think?
Me?
Its Señor Mexico
No, but I'll bet he is. Is there any question he's the #2?
Head Coach Pat Shurmur -- September 6, 2019
Q: Who is your number two quarterback?
A: Our number two quarterback right now is Daniel Jones.
Q: So he’ll dress on Sunday?
A: Yeah. We’re going to dress two quarterbacks. (Eli and) Daniel Jones.
Q: If Eli got injured, how ready is Daniel to go in and excel?
A: He’s ready to go. If he has to go in and play, he’s ready to go. Excuse my weird face when you asked that question. It seems pretty obvious.
From the tiny sample we've seen, Jones runs the RPO sweetly, and pulls the ball more smoothly than Manning. At this point, though, Jones trying to execute that play in Dallas is as likely to result in a big play for the Cowboys as for the Giants.
From the tiny sample we've seen, Jones runs the RPO sweetly, and pulls the ball more smoothly than Manning. At this point, though, Jones trying to execute that play in Dallas is as likely to result in a big play for the Cowboys as for the Giants.
Well Eli can run the RPO, but why cant Jones run the read option? Russel Wilson does it, Dak does it, he runs a 4.6 40. Everyone is afraid of him getting hurt? did you see him run in college?
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if he's dressing?
Head Coach Pat Shurmur -- September 6, 2019
Q: Who is your number two quarterback?
A: Our number two quarterback right now is Daniel Jones.
Q: So he’ll dress on Sunday?
A: Yeah. We’re going to dress two quarterbacks. (Eli and) Daniel Jones.
Q: If Eli got injured, how ready is Daniel to go in and excel?
A: He’s ready to go. If he has to go in and play, he’s ready to go. Excuse my weird face when you asked that question. It seems pretty obvious.
Thanks, I missed that. I guess that brings us back to why Tanney is still around. Did I see somewhere that the #3 QB gets to hang out on the sideline and whisper into Jones' ear?
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if he's dressing?
Head Coach Pat Shurmur -- September 6, 2019
Q: Who is your number two quarterback?
A: Our number two quarterback right now is Daniel Jones.
Q: So he’ll dress on Sunday?
A: Yeah. We’re going to dress two quarterbacks. (Eli and) Daniel Jones.
Q: If Eli got injured, how ready is Daniel to go in and excel?
A: He’s ready to go. If he has to go in and play, he’s ready to go. Excuse my weird face when you asked that question. It seems pretty obvious.
Thanks, I missed that. I guess that brings us back to why Tanney is still around. Did I see somewhere that the #3 QB gets to hang out on the sideline and whisper into Jones' ear?
I bet tanney will be on the side line in his hip pocket.
I’m sure the TV broadcast will cut to him on numerous occasions.
1) Eli plays like crap.
2) The OL shows that it is solid in pass protection.
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Play a few downs only. Coaches don’t want to fuel speculation that a QB change is possible, especially in the mind of their starting QB. If this season comes to a point where the Giants are not in contention for the playoffs, Jones will become the full-time starter. The only caveat is an injury to Eli.
If we lose the first 3 games Eli should get pulled, Let the Jones era begin. I hope Eli can avoid his typical 3 and out slow start this Sunday. People will calling for Jones as they should. Tired of watching this crap for the past 7 or so years,
Yes and all the issues of the last 7 years lie at the feet of Eli.....
How bout if Jones doesn’t play, you come to a game with me. Free tailgate on top of the ticket. (Disclaimer, would have to be after the Minnesota game. But any game after that)
Take that a step further - let's say he does really well. How do you quantify 'a few snaps'? What happens if you send him to the bench, the offense struggles and they lose the game?
Thanks, I missed that. I guess that brings us back to why Tanney is still around. Did I see somewhere that the #3 QB gets to hang out on the sideline and whisper into Jones' ear?
That was never said. Nice strawman though, does it make you feel smart?
Alas, Eli is incapable of any of that. So having a package of plays with Jones would keep the defense off balance and get Jones exposure. Two birds with one stone...
Reading some of the posts above that suggest Jones is just too delicate, and can’t be exposed to any football danger, is really embarrassing.
P.S...To those who think we can create football utopia for Jones so he has this beautiful, harmless transition to the starting role - sorry, but that’s beyond dumb and completely unrealistic. Eventually the training wheels just have to come off...
That said, I think Week 12 could be the week, mainly because the Giants have a bye Week 11. I think this team is talented enough to at least stay in the playoff hunt until Week 10 (game against the Jets). If the team is 5-5 or better, Eli stays the starter and the Giants try to make a run. If they're under .500 I think the amount of people calling for Jones to replace Eli will be too great for Mara/Shurmur/Gettleman to back down from. This fanbase is so thirsty for some wins and a possible playoff berth, so angry at how awful the past half decade or so of NYG football has been, I don't think even Giant fans have room in their heart for a "let's let Eli play out the rest of the season just to give him a nice send-off". Again, if 5-5 or better, we're still technically in the hunt and I say Eli stays, but 4-6 or worse and I think Eli is done unfortunately. And they'll wait for/ take advantage of the Bye week to transition to Jones taking first-team reps and taking over for the legendary Eli Manning.
(Another caveat: To be honest I truly think once the team gets to 6 losses is when Jones comes in--unless they start out like 0-5 or something crazy, I just so happen to be optimistic enough to believe they won't get to 6 losses in the first 9 weeks of the season.)
Alas, Eli is incapable of any of that. So having a package of plays with Jones would keep the defense off balance and get Jones exposure. Two birds with one stone...
Reading some of the posts above that suggest Jones is just too delicate, and can’t be exposed to any football danger, is really embarrassing.
P.S...To those who think we can create football utopia for Jones so he has this beautiful, harmless transition to the starting role - sorry, but that’s beyond dumb and completely unrealistic. Eventually the training wheels just have to come off...
Why in the world would you expose your future franchise quarterback and back up quarterback to a gimmick play when you have Barkley? This isn't about training wheels. God forbid Jones should get hurt on a gimmick play and Eli struggles. Jones will get his opportunity when his time comes. In the meantime he will benefit from watching on the sideline.
I can almost guarantee you that Daniel Jones will not be on the field unless Eli gets injured. That is the only scenario I see.
Yes, it could happen.
Looks like Jones played after all.
I never would have guessed.
Looks like Jones played after all.
I never would have guessed.
Well, technically i was wrong, because i didnt think it would be in garbage time.
Now I say he's starting by week 5.... :)
One the team gave Eli his bonus (prior to the draft) the stage was set for a final Eli year.
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Looks like Jones played after all.
I never would have guessed.
Well, technically i was wrong, because i didnt think it would be in garbage time.
Now I say he's starting by week 5.... :)
I did not post it but I did not think he'd be in for garbage time either.
Watch.
Why in the world would you expose your future franchise quarterback and back up quarterback to a gimmick play when you have Barkley? This isn't about training wheels. God forbid Jones should get hurt on a gimmick play and Eli struggles. Jones will get his opportunity when his time comes. In the meantime he will benefit from watching on the sideline.
I can almost guarantee you that Daniel Jones will not be on the field unless Eli gets injured. That is the only scenario I see.
Jones is a big, strong kid. He'll be fine. And can we stop being delicate with Jones and Barkley? Gee, let's accumulate talent, but only use it in a measured way for fear of injury...
And who said anything about gimmicks? RPOs, designed roll passes and runs, etc. You know, 21st century football - which, btw, I largely despise. But it's today's NFL.
(The unlikely scenario being a giants blow out)
I’m glad Shurmur did it. Jones got valuable experience and a learning opportunity with the fumble.
I hope they continue to put him in when things aren’t going well.
Watch.
Eli has a no trade clause in his contract, also, there are interested parties? Really? Who would that be?
Watch.
Who is interested?
JAX just traded for a guy
Watch.
The Giants don't have to waive anything; it's Eli's decision entirely.