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I say Daniel Jones plays this Sunday

cjac : 9/6/2019 1:47 pm
I really think based on his skill set (why leave talent on the bench), and based on Shurmur's quote "Eli is our starter and Daniel is getting ready to play"....

Some have agreed with me, and some are saying "no way"

What does everyone think? they design a few plays for him to come in and run, maybe the read option, or maybe to fool the Cowboys in thinking its a run and he hits Engram in the seam...

What does everyone think?
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Is Eli getting injured?  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 9/6/2019 1:49 pm : link
Because if he's not. DJ isn't playing
You mean  
figgy2989 : 9/6/2019 1:49 pm : link
Like having both him and Eli on the field at the same time in different formations for trick plays? The only way I see that is as a decoy.

There is no way they would bring Jones in to run the ball.
Ridiculous  
flycatcher : 9/6/2019 1:49 pm : link
Tanney will start.
See my post in the practice tweets thread.  
Klaatu : 9/6/2019 1:50 pm : link
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Eli Manning  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 9/6/2019 1:50 pm : link
actually wears a jersey with a picture of Daniel Jones on it. That way, Daniel and Eli are on the same field and every one wins. Win-Win.
RE: You mean  
cjac : 9/6/2019 1:50 pm : link
In comment 14561353 figgy2989 said:
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Like having both him and Eli on the field at the same time in different formations for trick plays? The only way I see that is as a decoy.

There is no way they would bring Jones in to run the ball.


No i mean like how the Saints pull Brees off the field and put Taysom Hill in
RE: See my post in the practice tweets thread.  
cjac : 9/6/2019 1:51 pm : link
In comment 14561357 Klaatu said:
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Yeah i saw, i think they use him like the Saints use Hill on 3rd downs
Not a chance two ways he plays  
eli4life : 9/6/2019 1:51 pm : link
1-Eli flat out sucks and he replaces him as starter(too early for this) or Eli is hurt

2 mop up duty
ok  
allstarjim : 9/6/2019 1:52 pm : link
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RE: RE: You mean  
NoPeanutz : 9/6/2019 1:52 pm : link
In comment 14561359 cjac said:
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In comment 14561353 figgy2989 said:


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Like having both him and Eli on the field at the same time in different formations for trick plays? The only way I see that is as a decoy.

There is no way they would bring Jones in to run the ball.



No i mean like how the Saints pull Brees off the field and put Taysom Hill in

Taysom Hill is a ST teams player. Dimes is the franchise.
Shurmur  
Les in TO : 9/6/2019 1:53 pm : link
And Shula have called trick plays so not a complete fantasy
like i said in the other thread  
ron mexico : 9/6/2019 1:54 pm : link
no way..

I'll also add a "no how"
Much like Eli against the Falcons, Daniel Jones isn't going  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/6/2019 1:56 pm : link
on the field until they're ready to keep him on the field.
I don't think he'll have set plays in the game plan  
bceagle05 : 9/6/2019 1:56 pm : link
but I could see the Giants being down by 2+ scores late in the game and bringing him in to get his feet wet, similar to Eli's cameo in Week 1 2004 at Philly (the McDougle hit).
RE: I don't think he'll have set plays in the game plan  
ron mexico : 9/6/2019 2:00 pm : link
In comment 14561380 bceagle05 said:
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but I could see the Giants being down by 2+ scores late in the game and bringing him in to get his feet wet, similar to Eli's cameo in Week 1 2004 at Philly (the McDougle hit).


this is the only way. But I still doubt it

cause way too much controversy if he is even the little bit sucessful
DJ is mobile  
JonC : 9/6/2019 2:00 pm : link
but Hill's a different animal as a runner, he's more like a mobile tailback. Doubt they want DJ out there as a rookie exposing his legs and body right away.
I say no  
UberAlias : 9/6/2019 2:02 pm : link
But I heard a rumor that DJ starts. They said if he was backup he would have played more than a series last week. Don’t want Dallas to know but think he gives them the best chance to win.
RE: RE: See my post in the practice tweets thread.  
weaverpsu : 9/6/2019 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14561363 cjac said:
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Yeah i saw, i think they use him like the Saints use Hill on 3rd downs


What??? Hill is twice the athlete that Jones is. No chance.
RE: I say no  
ron mexico : 9/6/2019 2:05 pm : link
In comment 14561401 UberAlias said:
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But I heard a rumor that DJ starts. They said if he was backup he would have played more than a series last week. Don’t want Dallas to know but think he gives them the best chance to win.


Did you hear this at the Tik Tok diner?
I will say this  
jvm52106 : 9/6/2019 2:06 pm : link
if the Giants are down by 14 and Eli is just not getting it done, I can see the more mobile Jones getting on the field.
RE: RE: You mean  
figgy2989 : 9/6/2019 2:07 pm : link
In comment 14561359 cjac said:
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No i mean like how the Saints pull Brees off the field and put Taysom Hill in


Big difference is Hill is not the future QB of the Saints franchise. They can use him as a bowling ball all they want and it works. He gets hurt, oh well...

No way they would put Jones in that type of situation.
RE: I will say this  
ron mexico : 9/6/2019 2:08 pm : link
In comment 14561411 jvm52106 said:
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if the Giants are down by 14 and Eli is just not getting it done, I can see the more mobile Jones getting on the field.


Mara wont allow it

(ducks)
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arcarsenal : 9/6/2019 2:11 pm : link
I don't think Jones is playing until he gets the keys for real. He can run, but he's not Lamar Jackson. I don't think we're going to do what Baltimore did last year because I don't think they want Jones playing that type of game
The only way Jones plays this week  
Mike from Ohio : 9/6/2019 2:13 pm : link
is if the game is out of hand in the 4th quarter in the Giants favor. I am going to suggest the odds of that are extremely low.
I've always wondered who Ranaan's dupe on BBI was  
Torrag : 9/6/2019 2:16 pm : link
Now we know.
This discussion is completely ridiculous. If your starting QB is  
Ivan15 : 9/6/2019 2:18 pm : link
Injured or the team is getting blown out, the backup needs to come in. If Jones need experience and he is the backup, he should be in. If Tanney is the designated backup, then maybe you look at whether you risk injury and put Jones in to get experience.

Either Jones is ready to play or he isn’t.
RE: I've always wondered who Ranaan's dupe on BBI was  
ron mexico : 9/6/2019 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14561437 Torrag said:
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Now we know.


Jordan has his own handle here

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Not a chance he plays  
ZogZerg : 9/6/2019 2:23 pm : link
unless Eli is carted off the field.
RE: I've always wondered who Ranaan's dupe on BBI was  
cjac : 9/6/2019 2:27 pm : link
In comment 14561437 Torrag said:
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Now we know.


Me?
'Jordan has his own handle here'  
Torrag : 9/6/2019 2:28 pm : link
Now we also know mr mexico doesn't know what a dupe is.
RE: 'Jordan has his own handle here'  
ron mexico : 9/6/2019 2:32 pm : link
In comment 14561460 Torrag said:
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Now we also know mr mexico doesn't know what a dupe is.


Its Señor Mexico

Is this for real  
Tuckrule : 9/6/2019 2:33 pm : link
He isn’t playing and he isn’t a gadget player. Since when did Daniel jones become pat white. And he for sure as hell isnt going to play vs that Dallas front. When his time comes he’ll be setup for success maybe vs Arizona or Tampa.
Daniel Jones starting would be ten times more shocking than the  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/6/2019 3:18 pm : link
Luck retirement. We would have heard about him taking snaps with the first team all week already.
Daniel Jones is a good athlete, but he isn't this great athlete that  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/6/2019 3:19 pm : link
it makes sense to do this unless our red zone offense looks completely inept. Which truthfully it could, we don't exactly have great red zone targets.
Jones is not starting and he won't be on the field at the same time  
Del Shofner : 9/6/2019 3:22 pm : link
as Eli, but cjac's original hypothesis - that Jones comes on for a scripted series or two as a change-up - is not crazy in my view.
Do we even know for sure  
Bill in UT : 9/6/2019 3:23 pm : link
if he's dressing?
RE: Do we even know for sure  
Del Shofner : 9/6/2019 3:24 pm : link
In comment 14561554 Bill in UT said:
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if he's dressing?


No, but I'll bet he is. Is there any question he's the #2?
RE: Do we even know for sure  
cjac : 9/6/2019 3:44 pm : link
In comment 14561554 Bill in UT said:
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if he's dressing?


Head Coach Pat Shurmur -- September 6, 2019

Q: Who is your number two quarterback?
A: Our number two quarterback right now is Daniel Jones.

Q: So he’ll dress on Sunday?
A: Yeah. We’re going to dress two quarterbacks. (Eli and) Daniel Jones.

Q: If Eli got injured, how ready is Daniel to go in and excel?
A: He’s ready to go. If he has to go in and play, he’s ready to go. Excuse my weird face when you asked that question. It seems pretty obvious.
Read option? Not a chance in hell. (Low reward, high injury risk)  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/6/2019 3:47 pm : link
RPO? Conceivable, but I still think the downside is way bigger than the upside. We've already seen one ugly fumbled exchange between Halapio and Jones. Then consider how few reps Jones and Barkley have taken together: not a lot in practice, and exactly zero against a live defense.

From the tiny sample we've seen, Jones runs the RPO sweetly, and pulls the ball more smoothly than Manning. At this point, though, Jones trying to execute that play in Dallas is as likely to result in a big play for the Cowboys as for the Giants.
Lol Shurmur can not hide his giddiness when it comes to DJ.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/6/2019 3:51 pm : link
This much is obvious.
RE: Read option? Not a chance in hell. (Low reward, high injury risk)  
cjac : 9/6/2019 3:56 pm : link
In comment 14561580 Big Blue Blogger said:
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RPO? Conceivable, but I still think the downside is way bigger than the upside. We've already seen one ugly fumbled exchange between Halapio and Jones. Then consider how few reps Jones and Barkley have taken together: not a lot in practice, and exactly zero against a live defense.

From the tiny sample we've seen, Jones runs the RPO sweetly, and pulls the ball more smoothly than Manning. At this point, though, Jones trying to execute that play in Dallas is as likely to result in a big play for the Cowboys as for the Giants.


Well Eli can run the RPO, but why cant Jones run the read option? Russel Wilson does it, Dak does it, he runs a 4.6 40. Everyone is afraid of him getting hurt? did you see him run in college?
ha - i made a similar thread before preseason  
Justlurking : 9/6/2019 4:01 pm : link
I would not be shocked to see him come in for a series or a 3rd and short.
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Bill in UT : 9/6/2019 6:21 pm : link
In comment 14561576 cjac said:
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if he's dressing?



Head Coach Pat Shurmur -- September 6, 2019

Q: Who is your number two quarterback?
A: Our number two quarterback right now is Daniel Jones.

Q: So he’ll dress on Sunday?
A: Yeah. We’re going to dress two quarterbacks. (Eli and) Daniel Jones.

Q: If Eli got injured, how ready is Daniel to go in and excel?
A: He’s ready to go. If he has to go in and play, he’s ready to go. Excuse my weird face when you asked that question. It seems pretty obvious.


Thanks, I missed that. I guess that brings us back to why Tanney is still around. Did I see somewhere that the #3 QB gets to hang out on the sideline and whisper into Jones' ear?
What was the old Parcells saying?  
jcn56 : 9/6/2019 6:31 pm : link
You either have one quarterback or no quarterback? I don't think the Giants would mess with this.
An argument for goal line packages could be made  
DavidinBMNY : 9/6/2019 6:33 pm : link
Jones mobility would give another dimension to the offense.
Cjac, you want to  
dorgan : 9/6/2019 6:36 pm : link
bet the 6 pack of beer that you never got from Chris in Philly from the last bet?
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ron mexico : 9/6/2019 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14561717 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 14561554 Bill in UT said:


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if he's dressing?



Head Coach Pat Shurmur -- September 6, 2019

Q: Who is your number two quarterback?
A: Our number two quarterback right now is Daniel Jones.

Q: So he’ll dress on Sunday?
A: Yeah. We’re going to dress two quarterbacks. (Eli and) Daniel Jones.

Q: If Eli got injured, how ready is Daniel to go in and excel?
A: He’s ready to go. If he has to go in and play, he’s ready to go. Excuse my weird face when you asked that question. It seems pretty obvious.



Thanks, I missed that. I guess that brings us back to why Tanney is still around. Did I see somewhere that the #3 QB gets to hang out on the sideline and whisper into Jones' ear?


I bet tanney will be on the side line in his hip pocket.

I’m sure the TV broadcast will cut to him on numerous occasions.
Jones doesn't see the field  
fireitup77 : 9/6/2019 7:26 pm : link
Until two things happen.

1) Eli plays like crap.

2) The OL shows that it is solid in pass protection.
Eli had a great camp (according to PS)  
Beer Man : 9/6/2019 7:43 pm : link
The team is paying him over $17M to play QB. The only way Jones sees the field on Sunday is if Eli is injured or in a mop-up role of a one-sided game. I don't see PS risking getting into a QB controversy this early in the season.
It’s not likely Jones will  
Gregorio : 9/6/2019 7:54 pm : link
Play a few downs only. Coaches don’t want to fuel speculation that a QB change is possible, especially in the mind of their starting QB. If this season comes to a point where the Giants are not in contention for the playoffs, Jones will become the full-time starter. The only caveat is an injury to Eli.
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