Ed Werder @WerderEdESPN
Source: the #Cowboys won’t start Pro Bowl CB Byron Jones against the NYG. He’s been recovering from offseason hip surgery. He will play but snaps will be closely monitored. Jourdan Lewis and Anthony Brown had outstanding preseasons.
Dan Duggan @DDuggan21
Jones wasn’t on the injury report this week
Game 2 versus Dallas last night. The offense was anemic in the first half. If we come out like that again I don't see how this team can win. The offense needs to get on the board in its first drive and keep the pressure on thereafter.
the Giants have been punched in the mouth early and had no response. It’s time to change that. You go right at Dallas and smack their front seven around. Now, they may not win in the end, but it sends a message they won’t be doormats any longer.
could be crushing to Dallas. Think of all the seasons the Giants were derailed. Lots of question marks at a minimum.
Giants need to be very physical in their approach imo. This is a huge game for week 1. 1-0 in the Division on the road really sets them in in the Division.
the Giants have been punched in the mouth early and had no response. It’s time to change that. You go right at Dallas and smack their front seven around. Now, they may not win in the end, but it sends a message they won’t be doormats any longer.
I'd come out with a 2 WR, 2 TE, 1 RB set and have Barkley and Engram line up all over the place with some 4 wide looks out of that package using Barkley and Engram as WRs. Other times, just Engram split wide. Then Barkley split wide, with Engram offset, run a jet sweep to Engram etc...
Really mix and match that. Allow Eli leeway to audible and put guys in motion etc. Its the Giants best personnel package and it can be used to confuse the shit of Dallas early.
Force Dallas out of what they want to do. Dictate their scheme. Get them off balanace.
This is a huge opportunity.I honestly think the Giants are in a good spot with the way they played the preseason. This will not be the Dallas team you play later in the season. Starters are not ready right now we can absolutely steal this game with solid coaching and mistake-free fundamental football.
DO NOT TURN THE BALL OVER EARLY.
DO NOT HAVE STUPID PENALTIES.
If the Giants do both of those things this will be an extremely competitive me that we could win and set the narrative for the season.
This is a huge opportunity.I honestly think the Giants are in a good spot with the way they played the preseason. This will not be the Dallas team you play later in the season. Starters are not ready right now we can absolutely steal this game with solid coaching and mistake-free fundamental football.
DO NOT TURN THE BALL OVER EARLY.
DO NOT HAVE STUPID PENALTIES.
If the Giants do both of those things this will be an extremely competitive me that we could win and set the narrative for the season.
Looking at GB-Chi game, where they didn't look good or play their starters and looked bad in game 1, maybe our good preseason with starters playing a decent amount carries over to game 1.
or has DG and his coaches turned this thing around with two good drafts and a major change in the locker room. Thought we were pretty close to the Boys in the second half of the season last year and think we are better now. Keep the faith.
or has DG and his coaches turned this thing around with two good drafts and a major change in the locker room. Thought we were pretty close to the Boys in the second half of the season last year and think we are better now. Keep the faith.
That's a pretty bold claim -- the Cowboys went 7-1 to finish the season and won a playoff game.
I thought it was a roster maneuver to elevate a Practice Squad player e.g. Conrad for the game.
What would be the time limit on implementing such a maneuver?
Now it appears it was just a move to allow for the signing of a vet in the next couple of days.
What would be the purpose of cutting him before the game if they weren't going to fill the roster for the game. If they were saving the spot for adding a vet next week could have kept on the roster this week then cut him tomorrow.
I thought it was a roster maneuver to elevate a Practice Squad player e.g. Conrad for the game.
What would be the time limit on implementing such a maneuver?
Now it appears it was just a move to allow for the signing of a vet in the next couple of days.
What would be the purpose of cutting him before the game if they weren't going to fill the roster for the game. If they were saving the spot for adding a vet next week could have kept on the roster this week then cut him tomorrow.
Because a players (with 4 accrued years) salary is guaranteed if they are on the roster on week 1. He was going to be inactive and released. The giants don't have to pay him since he was released prior to week 1.
What would be the purpose of cutting him before the game if they weren't going to fill the roster for the game. If they were saving the spot for adding a vet next week could have kept on the roster this week then cut him tomorrow.
Stupar is a vested vet. If he is on the roster for week 1, Giants would have been on the hook for his salary for full year, 900k.
By cutting him, they only take a 90k dead cap hit.
And they may not be in a rush to fill the spot because it just means one less inactive today.
A miracle Lazarus pit Eli Manning?
A non existent pass rush
A completely unproven secondary?
I think Eli can surprise behind a functional line. Barkley is the most talented back in the league. Engram and Sheppard can make plays. The defense should be able to stop the run and defend the pass with all the new pieces.
It feels like Dallas thinks they can walk all over NY with all the news about limiting their starters. Let’s be real — Dak isn’t a good passer. The Giants gave him fits in ‘16 when they had a secondary who could cover. I think our revamped secondary picks him off a few times today. Cooper is dealing with a foot and vanishes whenever he has a tough CB matchup.
Dallas will go undefeated and win the Super Bowl because they are so much better than everyone else. Not drinking the Kool-aid here. They should be favored, BUT they can be had. The Giants are an unknown. The OL SHOULD be better. The DL is younger, more athletic, but better? The edge guys COULD be better. The secondary is younger, more athletic (except Bethea), but better? I can see anything from a Giant’s win to getting blown out to be honest.
My guess is a close loss.
Definitely need to start better than we have last few games vs cowboys Â
Seems like we have a bunch of 3 and outs , d on field too much early and Dallas gets up by 10. We inch back at times and don’t have much in tank late
All we need is a big play or two , maybe a turnover ,gets some momentum and early confidence and it’s a ball game we can steal.
Dallas has talent but but I think our talent base has improved enough with better depth.
Not into moral victories but even a good showing that we don’t take bodes well for next 3 games
A screw that, go inflict some pain, set the tone early and rip their fucking hearts out!
Dallas will go undefeated and win the Super Bowl because they are so much better than everyone else. Not drinking the Kool-aid here. They should be favored, BUT they can be had. The Giants are an unknown. The OL SHOULD be better. The DL is younger, more athletic, but better? The edge guys COULD be better. The secondary is younger, more athletic (except Bethea), but better? I can see anything from a Giant’s win to getting blown out to be honest.
My guess is a close loss.
Sorta numb to it all after the last 2 seasons. Lots of unknowns for us going into this game:
1. Does the Eli of old return and make one last run?
2. Do we actually have a pass rush?
3. Is our secondary better than it was?
My thinking is the oline is functional. Barkley keeps the chains moving. Eli hits a some deep throws. I think the pass rush will be just ok. Secondary will see some miscommunications leading to big plays. I think we win in a relatively high scoring game 31-28.
but I want to see him let it fly this year. He has nothing to lose so I hope we see the old gun slinging Eli again. I think Dak is going to have all day to throw today so the offense really needs to do their part and not play conservatively.
especially against Dallas, but don't have much hope in this team. Don't know what to expect. Looking at the other 3 teams in the NFC East, those teams are stacked with players. All three have been building their defenses.
The Giants haven’t even played a snap. Unproven secondary? It’s more proven than anything we trotted out to the field last year, I’d rather have a first round pick/thorpe award winner out there than bw fucking Webb. Also, What do the Giants secondary have to be worried about? The trash secondary Dak torches won’t be on the field, Cowboys receivers outside of Cooper are average. Jenkins did a fine job on Amari last year and I’m not losing any sleep over Gallup and Randall Cobb who hasn’t played good football in 3 years.
Source: the #Cowboys won’t start Pro Bowl CB Byron Jones against the NYG. He’s been recovering from offseason hip surgery. He will play but snaps will be closely monitored. Jourdan Lewis and Anthony Brown had outstanding preseasons.
Dan Duggan @DDuggan21
Jones wasn’t on the injury report this week
DeMarcus Lawrence just started practicing this week also...
Let's rub their dicks in the dirt!
Their top CB is compromised and the press touts the backups.
If it was Jackrabbit it would have read “Jackrabbit out, Giants doomed.”
Nothing from this week would lead me to think he’s going to be out or even limited this afternoon.
Haven’t heard anything about him. Why wouldn’t he?
Buffalo
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WSH
Huge opportunity to start fast which has been lacking with this team since 2012.
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Buffalo
@TB
WSH
Huge opportunity to start fast which has been lacking with this team since 2012.
Giants need to be very physical in their approach imo. This is a huge game for week 1. 1-0 in the Division on the road really sets them in in the Division.
I'd come out with a 2 WR, 2 TE, 1 RB set and have Barkley and Engram line up all over the place with some 4 wide looks out of that package using Barkley and Engram as WRs. Other times, just Engram split wide. Then Barkley split wide, with Engram offset, run a jet sweep to Engram etc...
Really mix and match that. Allow Eli leeway to audible and put guys in motion etc. Its the Giants best personnel package and it can be used to confuse the shit of Dallas early.
Force Dallas out of what they want to do. Dictate their scheme. Get them off balanace.
I think that's a really good question. Not only for this game but for every other game they play this season.
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How soon do you declare it “over” and send Jones in? Think back to the season opener in 2004 when we got crushed in Philadelphia.
I think that's a really good question. Not only for this game but for every other game they play this season.
My opinion would be if Dallas somehow gets the lead up to 17-21 with around 10 minutes left, I’d put Jones in.
DO NOT TURN THE BALL OVER EARLY.
DO NOT HAVE STUPID PENALTIES.
If the Giants do both of those things this will be an extremely competitive me that we could win and set the narrative for the season.
Let's rub their dicks in the dirt!
Did you go to high school in Key West?
DO NOT TURN THE BALL OVER EARLY.
DO NOT HAVE STUPID PENALTIES.
If the Giants do both of those things this will be an extremely competitive me that we could win and set the narrative for the season.
Looking at GB-Chi game, where they didn't look good or play their starters and looked bad in game 1, maybe our good preseason with starters playing a decent amount carries over to game 1.
It is however the first game of the season, and as it is ever year, guys will play less snaps, including on the Giants.
What would be the time limit on implementing such a maneuver?
Now it appears it was just a move to allow for the signing of a vet in the next couple of days.
That's a pretty bold claim -- the Cowboys went 7-1 to finish the season and won a playoff game.
What would be the time limit on implementing such a maneuver?
Now it appears it was just a move to allow for the signing of a vet in the next couple of days.
What would be the purpose of cutting him before the game if they weren't going to fill the roster for the game. If they were saving the spot for adding a vet next week could have kept on the roster this week then cut him tomorrow.
I really suspect shurmur doesn’t have a concrete plan other than a week to week basis aside from starting 1-3 or even 2-2 with bad Eli performance
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I thought it was a roster maneuver to elevate a Practice Squad player e.g. Conrad for the game.
What would be the time limit on implementing such a maneuver?
Now it appears it was just a move to allow for the signing of a vet in the next couple of days.
What would be the purpose of cutting him before the game if they weren't going to fill the roster for the game. If they were saving the spot for adding a vet next week could have kept on the roster this week then cut him tomorrow.
Because a players (with 4 accrued years) salary is guaranteed if they are on the roster on week 1. He was going to be inactive and released. The giants don't have to pay him since he was released prior to week 1.
Sleeping on what?
A miracle Lazarus pit Eli Manning?
A non existent pass rush
A completely unproven secondary?
What would be the purpose of cutting him before the game if they weren't going to fill the roster for the game. If they were saving the spot for adding a vet next week could have kept on the roster this week then cut him tomorrow.
Stupar is a vested vet. If he is on the roster for week 1, Giants would have been on the hook for his salary for full year, 900k.
By cutting him, they only take a 90k dead cap hit.
And they may not be in a rush to fill the spot because it just means one less inactive today.
It's always about wins and losses. It's how you measure a team's progress.
For some reason this post got me incredibly pumped.
Probably because it shares my sentiments exactly.
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A lot of people are sleeping on the Giants.
Sleeping on what?
A miracle Lazarus pit Eli Manning?
A non existent pass rush
A completely unproven secondary?
EXACTLY....
No pass rush and if Jenkins goes down no proven corner.
This!
Let's rub their dicks in the dirt!
I had a coach who'd say "knock" or "kick" their dicks in the dirt. But rub, eh? Very peculiar verb choice...
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A lot of people are sleeping on the Giants.
Sleeping on what?
A miracle Lazarus pit Eli Manning?
A non existent pass rush
A completely unproven secondary?
A much improved OL - more room for Barkley and more time for Eli
Eli with time will look like himself
A much improved secondary
A much deeper DL
Just said, the dallas defense is so good that don't be surprised to see D Jones today
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he is so over the top about how good the Cowboys are its sickening. I don't know why he thinks this, but he says they are going to the Super Bowl.
Just said, the dallas defense is so good that don't be surprised to see D Jones today
I feel like he insinuated they’re going to hurt Manning
Or
0-5 start, Jones era starts early...with plenty of learning curve and another decent draft spot.
Something in middle...will suck
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A lot of people are sleeping on the Giants.
Sleeping on what?
A miracle Lazarus pit Eli Manning?
A non existent pass rush
A completely unproven secondary?
I think Eli can surprise behind a functional line. Barkley is the most talented back in the league. Engram and Sheppard can make plays. The defense should be able to stop the run and defend the pass with all the new pieces.
It feels like Dallas thinks they can walk all over NY with all the news about limiting their starters. Let’s be real — Dak isn’t a good passer. The Giants gave him fits in ‘16 when they had a secondary who could cover. I think our revamped secondary picks him off a few times today. Cooper is dealing with a foot and vanishes whenever he has a tough CB matchup.
I’d be nervous if I was a Dallas fan.
Seems like we're forcing Haley into this. Since when would a player be proven after one year?
My guess is a close loss.
All we need is a big play or two , maybe a turnover ,gets some momentum and early confidence and it’s a ball game we can steal.
Dallas has talent but but I think our talent base has improved enough with better depth.
Not into moral victories but even a good showing that we don’t take bodes well for next 3 games
A screw that, go inflict some pain, set the tone early and rip their fucking hearts out!
My guess is a close loss.
Yeah ah huh sure whatever champ
1. Does the Eli of old return and make one last run?
2. Do we actually have a pass rush?
3. Is our secondary better than it was?
My thinking is the oline is functional. Barkley keeps the chains moving. Eli hits a some deep throws. I think the pass rush will be just ok. Secondary will see some miscommunications leading to big plays. I think we win in a relatively high scoring game 31-28.
Dont be a debbie downer..hope springs eternal till 4:26 ;)
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think Dallas wins the game handily by controlling both lines of scrimmage.
Dont be a debbie downer..hope springs eternal till 4:26 ;)
I prefer Negative Nancy.