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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/8/2019 3:46 pm
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/8/2019 3:51 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Antonio Hamilton lining up at the starting corner spot opposite Janoris Jenkins in the base defense during warmups.
RE: ...  
Jerz44 : 9/8/2019 4:03 pm : link
In comment 14563829 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Antonio Hamilton lining up at the starting corner spot opposite Janoris Jenkins in the base defense during warmups.


Huh? Why him?
Let’s go Big Blue!  
trueblueinpw : 9/8/2019 4:09 pm : link
Dallas fucking sucks!
RE: RE: ...  
Rory : 9/8/2019 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14563873 Jerz44 said:
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In comment 14563829 Eric from BBI said:


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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Antonio Hamilton lining up at the starting corner spot opposite Janoris Jenkins in the base defense during warmups.



Huh? Why him?


Putting Baker on Cobb?

Cobb scares me out of the slot.
Come one Giants!!  
Tom [Giants fan] : 9/8/2019 4:18 pm : link
Opening Day win please!!!
Fuck Dallas  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 4:21 pm : link
Let's go!
Hope your team wins today  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/8/2019 4:21 pm : link
That's what my Dad has said to me before every Giants game since 1961.

And so I wish you the same.
Just give me an opening day win  
justafan : 9/8/2019 4:23 pm : link
for christ sake.
RE: Just give me an opening day win  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 4:24 pm : link
In comment 14563934 justafan said:
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for christ sake.

This! One damn win...just one!
RE: ...  
christian : 9/8/2019 4:25 pm : link
In comment 14563829 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Antonio Hamilton lining up at the starting corner spot opposite Janoris Jenkins in the base defense during warmups.


Yikes
Baker is an outside corner  
Dave on the UWS : 9/8/2019 4:25 pm : link
Both he and Hamilton will play. ( as Shurmur said during the week)
Why do we always have to start our season in Dallas!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:25 pm : link
It’s like giving the Cowboys and early season Div Win.
Let’s fucking gooooo  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/8/2019 4:26 pm : link
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Who else is afraid that Witten..  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 4:26 pm : link
is going to kill us again today?
JJ too far off!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:27 pm : link
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GO  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 4:27 pm : link
GIANTS!
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 4:28 pm : link
Bethea is a step behind so far.
Foles broke his collar bone  
Hsilwek92 : 9/8/2019 4:28 pm : link
Can’t wait to see/hear all the Eli trade speculation.
Giving up way too much space  
Mike in NY : 9/8/2019 4:28 pm : link
To Dallas WR’s
So it this the Rod Rust  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/8/2019 4:28 pm : link
Read and react or the Perry Fewell play off the WRs 15 years D.
Wow that was pathetic on Dak's part  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 4:29 pm : link
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Zero pressure!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:30 pm : link
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We  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 4:30 pm : link
were bailed out by a few bad throws by Prescott.
Lmfao  
huygens20 : 9/8/2019 4:30 pm : link
Zero

ZERO

Pass rush
.  
GiantEgo : 9/8/2019 4:30 pm : link
Whiney wimps already in late season form.
RE: Foles broke his collar bone  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 4:30 pm : link
In comment 14563949 Hsilwek92 said:
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Can’t wait to see/hear all the Eli trade speculation.


Nice job starting that speculation...
dexter got some push  
madgiantscow009 : 9/8/2019 4:31 pm : link
on some plays/
Peppers taking punts  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/8/2019 4:31 pm : link
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nice stop  
nicky43 : 9/8/2019 4:31 pm : link
go offense!
Dak...  
Gary JC : 9/8/2019 4:31 pm : link
...Standing flat foot, looking around.
Pray they over pay Prescott  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/8/2019 4:31 pm : link
This offense is theOL and Elliot. Pretending otherwise will be dumb
Dallas getting ball out quick  
Mike in NY : 9/8/2019 4:31 pm : link
Need to give less ground
RE: Zero pressure!  
John In CO : 9/8/2019 4:31 pm : link
In comment 14563954 Simms11 said:
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Dont let that get your blood pressure up:). Kinda have to get used to that one.
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 4:32 pm : link
Lawrence at end just looks so wrong to me. I'm sure the staff has a good read on it, but of it's me I want that guy eating up more real estate.
G-d Bless Eli Manning  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/8/2019 4:32 pm : link
nd fuck the Cowboys while yer at it
RE: .  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/8/2019 4:32 pm : link
In comment 14563957 GiantEgo said:
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Whiney wimps already in late season form.


Not a cool tough guy like you. Another internet tough guy. Bye
Come on O  
RobCarpenter : 9/8/2019 4:32 pm : link
Let’s get a drive together here
zero chance of beating this team without pressure on Dak  
GiantFanInTX : 9/8/2019 4:32 pm : link
and we do not have the talent to rush the passer.
Yeah thy need to get some  
beatrixkiddo : 9/8/2019 4:33 pm : link
lanes open to blitz. Their OL is back and looking mostly healthy, tough trench war.
RE: RE: Zero pressure!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14563965 John In CO said:
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In comment 14563954 Simms11 said:


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Dont let that get your blood pressure up:). Kinda have to get used to that one.


Hope not, it’ll be a long season with no pressure. We’ll have to win shootouts and we’re not configured for that.
Barkley  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 4:33 pm : link
who didn't fumble all of last year, fumbles on the first play.
Jeez  
RobCarpenter : 9/8/2019 4:33 pm : link
Lucky...
Maybe we should have played him in preseason a little  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 4:33 pm : link
.
Woooooo  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:33 pm : link
Helmet on ball.
RE: ...  
beatrixkiddo : 9/8/2019 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14563967 christian said:
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Lawrence at end just looks so wrong to me. I'm sure the staff has a good read on it, but of it's me I want that guy eating up more real estate.


Yeah I don't get it either. Tomlinson looked so much better at DE too.
Got lucky there  
micky : 9/8/2019 4:34 pm : link
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My man!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:34 pm : link
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Man, wish we drafted Darnold  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 4:34 pm : link
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fumble by SB  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 4:34 pm : link
wow. Glad to get that out of the way early.
BARKLEY!!  
Ryan in Albany : 9/8/2019 4:34 pm : link
!!
Holy shit  
RobCarpenter : 9/8/2019 4:34 pm : link
What a huge hole!!
Saquon!!!!!!  
nzyme : 9/8/2019 4:34 pm : link
Nice recovery!!!
Incredible hole..  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 4:34 pm : link
wow
Barkley  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/8/2019 4:34 pm : link
Is unreal
That  
igotyourbackman : 9/8/2019 4:34 pm : link
Was awesome!
Fantastic  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 4:34 pm : link
run, but what a hole by Engram and Latimer. Great work also by Solder and Hernandez to turn the Dallas defenders to the inside.
Barkely is  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 4:34 pm : link
so damn good!
A little more speed and its a td  
micky : 9/8/2019 4:35 pm : link
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I'm surprised  
santacruzom : 9/8/2019 4:35 pm : link
He got caught!
GOOOOOO GIIIAAANTS  
BIGbluegermany : 9/8/2019 4:35 pm : link
Let's kick their a....!!!
Good blocking too!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:35 pm : link
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Nice throw and catch  
latichever : 9/8/2019 4:35 pm : link
In traffic
I'm getting sick of the Barkley fumbles  
markky : 9/8/2019 4:35 pm : link
they need to work on that
Mixing it up well!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:35 pm : link
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little 59  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 4:35 pm : link
yarder for SB.

Let`s go!!
RE: I'm getting sick of the Barkley fumbles  
nygmen84 : 9/8/2019 4:36 pm : link
In comment 14563996 markky said:
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they need to work on that


What?
RE: RE: I'm getting sick of the Barkley fumbles  
markky : 9/8/2019 4:36 pm : link
In comment 14563999 nygmen84 said:
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In comment 14563996 markky said:


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they need to work on that



What?


sarcasm
Saquan  
charlito : 9/8/2019 4:36 pm : link
Barkley!!!!!
Here  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 4:36 pm : link
we go again. Burning time outs because we can't get the ball snapped.
How about that block by 88  
beatrixkiddo : 9/8/2019 4:36 pm : link
Engram baby
Not a good timeout there!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:36 pm : link
Something was screwed up.
RE: I'm getting sick of the Barkley fumbles  
mfsd : 9/8/2019 4:36 pm : link
In comment 14563996 markky said:
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they need to work on that


BBI game threads in mid season form
Gotta get play in  
Mike in NY : 9/8/2019 4:36 pm : link
Don’t like taking TO this early
Some  
igotyourbackman : 9/8/2019 4:37 pm : link
Good play calling so far
Confusion on O burns TO  
micky : 9/8/2019 4:37 pm : link
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Eli  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 4:37 pm : link
Bozo of the clock
The  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 4:37 pm : link
holes have been monstrous.
I'm going this  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 4:38 pm : link
OL push!
Dallas late hit  
RobCarpenter : 9/8/2019 4:38 pm : link
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Run barks here  
micky : 9/8/2019 4:38 pm : link
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Late hit personal foul  
Dave in PA : 9/8/2019 4:38 pm : link
First down
RE: RE: I'm getting sick of the Barkley fumbles  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 4:38 pm : link
In comment 14564005 mfsd said:
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In comment 14563996 markky said:


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they need to work on that



BBI game threads in mid season form


He was being sarcastic.
Line  
MookGiants : 9/8/2019 4:38 pm : link
looks very good. Just pray they stay healthy!

Stupid penalty by the Cowboys. I'll take it.
Ugh  
latichever : 9/8/2019 4:39 pm : link
I’ve seen this movie before. Running it up the gut for a FG
Pf dallas late hit  
micky : 9/8/2019 4:39 pm : link
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ENGRAM TD  
Ryan in Albany : 9/8/2019 4:39 pm : link
.!!!!!!!
Could of hurt the lineman there  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:39 pm : link
MFer
What a start by the Giants offense!  
nygmen84 : 9/8/2019 4:39 pm : link
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A  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 4:39 pm : link
beautiful drive.

GIANTS TD!
Eli Manning...  
Gary JC : 9/8/2019 4:39 pm : link
...sucks
Hell yes!  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 4:39 pm : link
Keep it going.
Nicely done!!!  
RobCarpenter : 9/8/2019 4:39 pm : link
Awesome play call
Great call!  
MookGiants : 9/8/2019 4:39 pm : link
Beautiful drive
Nice play action  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 4:39 pm : link
Thanks Collins dumb fuck
Beautiful  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:39 pm : link
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Who are these guys calling the plays?  
igotyourbackman : 9/8/2019 4:39 pm : link
Lol wow what a drive.
Best drive in 3 years against the Cowboys!  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 4:39 pm : link
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Great  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/8/2019 4:39 pm : link
Play call
Suck me Dallas!  
trueblueinpw : 9/8/2019 4:40 pm : link
Sucky sucky long time!
Ok. Play action  
latichever : 9/8/2019 4:40 pm : link
I can like that.
Great start  
micky : 9/8/2019 4:40 pm : link
Now don't fall asleep
man they look like a different team  
markky : 9/8/2019 4:40 pm : link
i hope this OL is for real
great call  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 4:40 pm : link
Go Giants. Go Eli.

7-0
fucking Bravo  
gtt350 : 9/8/2019 4:40 pm : link
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People sleeping on the Giants  
WillVAB : 9/8/2019 4:40 pm : link
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Excellent drive  
Steve in ATL : 9/8/2019 4:40 pm : link
Great start to the season.
Nice opening drive to start the season...  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 4:40 pm : link
!!!

Nice job Eli
Nice start  
jeff57 : 9/8/2019 4:40 pm : link
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Very nice start  
jvm52106 : 9/8/2019 4:40 pm : link
and now the defense needs to hold again and have the offense keep the pedal to the floor!!!
Nice  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 4:40 pm : link
call
RE: Best drive in 3 years against the Cowboys!  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 4:40 pm : link
In comment 14564030 BestFeature said:
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Maybe even longer.
Can't ask for a better start  
santacruzom : 9/8/2019 4:40 pm : link
Just gotta maintain!
Hey now!  
UberAlias : 9/8/2019 4:40 pm : link
GMen!!!
Love it!  
MyDogsNameIsEliToo : 9/8/2019 4:40 pm : link
Great play call. Barkley is a weapon even when he doesnt get the ball.. Eli moving outside. easy TD
Preseason was no fluke.  
cosmicj : 9/8/2019 4:40 pm : link
Baby, we’re back.
I dunno who these guys are  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 4:41 pm : link
but i like em
Fuck an A!  
GiantsUA : 9/8/2019 4:41 pm : link
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The  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 4:41 pm : link
best part of that drive is that we absolutely dominated the LOS. Engram and Latimer also had some great blocks.
Engram did a great job fake run blocking on that play!  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 4:41 pm : link
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It's pretty great  
phil in arizona : 9/8/2019 4:41 pm : link
having an o-line and barry sanders
Great play-calling and execution  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:41 pm : link
on that drive. Dallas knows we’re there for business now. Better start then previous years.
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 4:41 pm : link
There's the Engram we've been waiting for -- and great to see a play design for an easy throw to a tight end.
RE: Eli  
Crispino : 9/8/2019 4:41 pm : link
In comment 14564009 XBRONX said:
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Bozo of the clock


Another genius.
Anyone know of a rule loophole that would officially end the game  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/8/2019 4:41 pm : link
right now?
Eli gets it done!  
Vinny from Danbury : 9/8/2019 4:41 pm : link
Barkley also once again showed why he's the best RB in the league. Nice team effort!
Giants offensive line kicking the shit  
BSIMatt : 9/8/2019 4:42 pm : link
Out of that overrated Dallas dline!!!!
It's amazing how much better the team looks when you have a  
nygmen84 : 9/8/2019 4:42 pm : link
Functional and productive OL
Wow  
giantstock : 9/8/2019 4:42 pm : link
What an amazing start. Just fucking wow!
So far so good. The Giants O looks like it's for real  
Ira : 9/8/2019 4:42 pm : link
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Which was better on the drive: Play calling or execution?  
CT Charlie : 9/8/2019 4:42 pm : link
Correct answer: Equally excellent.
Love it!!  
Bleedin Blue : 9/8/2019 4:42 pm : link
They bought the run fake because we HAVE a threat at RB and we made them pay!!
Nice drive after the fumble  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/8/2019 4:42 pm : link
Good stuff
Awesome stuff  
ChaChing : 9/8/2019 4:42 pm : link
a little bit of blocking goes a long long way

and THEN you got Barkley and EE to deal with
Saquon  
Gruber : 9/8/2019 4:43 pm : link
Saquon, if he avoids injury, will be the greatest player to pull on a Giants shirt.
Ezekiel Elliott? Who's he?
All this is  
bluesince56 : 9/8/2019 4:43 pm : link
because of the fumble recovery. What a turnaround
RE: It's amazing how much better the team looks when you have a  
Jay in Toronto : 9/8/2019 4:43 pm : link
In comment 14564060 nygmen84 said:
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Functional and productive OL


Amen. Hope Reese is watching
Impressed with Latimer's  
dune69 : 9/8/2019 4:43 pm : link
blocking on two Saquon runs. Good job.
Look at Evan block on that TD play!  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 4:43 pm : link
https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1170799414878904320
Defense step it up  
igotyourbackman : 9/8/2019 4:43 pm : link
Let’s
Go!
Come on Run D!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:43 pm : link
.
Wait  
RobCarpenter : 9/8/2019 4:44 pm : link
Did a LB cover Witten??
RE: Impressed with Latimer's  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:44 pm : link
In comment 14564071 dune69 said:
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blocking on two Saquon runs. Good job.


Very good
Hill  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 4:44 pm : link
is hurt. Hope he's OK.
Big stop here!  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 4:44 pm : link
Let's do it
Giants pass rush  
mrvax : 9/8/2019 4:45 pm : link
is crumby so far. Not much pressure.
Hill coming off  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:45 pm : link
Hope it’s not a concussion?!
RE: Impressed with Latimer's  
RobCarpenter : 9/8/2019 4:45 pm : link
In comment 14564071 dune69 said:
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blocking on two Saquon runs. Good job.


And some on BBI wanted to cut him.
RE: Hill  
nzyme : 9/8/2019 4:45 pm : link
In comment 14564078 AcidTest said:
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is hurt. Hope he's OK.


yeah that would suck!!!!
.  
KevinBBWC : 9/8/2019 4:45 pm : link
Matt Lombardo


B.J. Hill slow to get up for the #Giants, but jogs off ahead of the trainers.
Hill has an eye  
micky : 9/8/2019 4:45 pm : link
.
RE: Wait  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:45 pm : link
In comment 14564076 RobCarpenter said:
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Did a LB cover Witten??


🌲
RE: Saquon  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/8/2019 4:45 pm : link
In comment 14564067 Gruber said:
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Saquon, if he avoids injury, will be the greatest player to pull on a Giants shirt.
Ezekiel Elliott? Who's he?
on the offensive side of the ball maybe...
Hill is fine  
NewBlue : 9/8/2019 4:46 pm : link
,,
RE: Saquon  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/8/2019 4:46 pm : link
In comment 14564067 Gruber said:
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Saquon, if he avoids injury, will be the greatest player to pull on a Giants shirt.
Ezekiel Elliott? Who's he?
on the offensive side of the ball maybe...
RE: Look at Evan block on that TD play!  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 4:46 pm : link
In comment 14564072 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1170799414878904320


Nearly broke Vander Esche's ankles
Sorry about  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/8/2019 4:46 pm : link
The double post
Did  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 4:47 pm : link
somebody poke Hill in the eye?
RE: RE: Saquon  
Vinny from Danbury : 9/8/2019 4:47 pm : link
In comment 14564087 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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In comment 14564067 Gruber said:


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Saquon, if he avoids injury, will be the greatest player to pull on a Giants shirt.
Ezekiel Elliott? Who's he?

on the offensive side of the ball maybe...


Good point. Haha
RE: Sorry about  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 4:47 pm : link
In comment 14564092 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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The double post


No problem.
Ahhhh  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:47 pm : link
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Dak  
mrvax : 9/8/2019 4:48 pm : link
doing well on those short darts.
RE: RE: Look at Evan block on that TD play!  
Jay in Toronto : 9/8/2019 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14564091 j_rud said:
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In comment 14564072 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1170799414878904320



Nearly broke Vander Esche's ankles


Also Latimer on the long run
I'm  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 4:49 pm : link
not going to make any judgments about the pass rush no matter what happens in this game because it's the first, and Dallas has a great OL. But it would be nice to generate more pressure.
Why are CBs so far off?  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:49 pm : link
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Dak  
mrvax : 9/8/2019 4:49 pm : link
got whacked.
Need to find a way to get some kind of pressure, because...  
Crispino : 9/8/2019 4:49 pm : link
we’re getting none at all.
RE: I'm  
bluesince56 : 9/8/2019 4:50 pm : link
In comment 14564099 AcidTest said:
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not going to make any judgments about the pass rush no matter what happens in this game because it's the first, and Dallas has a great OL. But it would be nice to generate more pressure.


Young players
Our pass rush  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 4:50 pm : link
is going to be our downfall this year unless someone really comes on.
Big  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 4:50 pm : link
hit by Davis.
Nice hit by Davis  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 4:50 pm : link
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Davis nice stick there!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:50 pm : link
.
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 4:51 pm : link
The defense looks like a mess.
Nothing like holding there!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:51 pm : link
.
Blatant..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 4:51 pm : link
hold!!
Zero pressure  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/8/2019 4:51 pm : link
W 4. Sent the blitz on 2nd. But not on 3rd. Not worried about the run D and I know the Dallas OL is the best but got to make Dak beat u.
Elliot with feed motion  
micky : 9/8/2019 4:52 pm : link
.
FatMan calls it  
HBart : 9/8/2019 4:52 pm : link
Blatant hold. Got the makeup call.
that was a solid  
phil in arizona : 9/8/2019 4:52 pm : link
screen
RE: Nothing like holding there!  
latichever : 9/8/2019 4:52 pm : link
In comment 14564109 Simms11 said:
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Mr Magoo would have seen that.
Lack of pass rush is by far the biggest weakness on the team  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 4:52 pm : link
right now. This defense is going to get picked apart when QB have all day back there
Witten  
igotyourbackman : 9/8/2019 4:52 pm : link
Lost a step?
We'll see that play  
CT Charlie : 9/8/2019 4:53 pm : link
a lot.
Same old defense  
jeff57 : 9/8/2019 4:53 pm : link
.
RE: Lack of pass rush is by far the biggest weakness on the team  
bluesince56 : 9/8/2019 4:53 pm : link
In comment 14564116 Giantfan21 said:
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right now. This defense is going to get picked apart when QB have all day back there


Dallas is going quick pass
This freaking guy Jarwin!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:53 pm : link
Killing us again?!
What in the fuck was that?  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 4:53 pm : link
.
Blown  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/8/2019 4:53 pm : link
Coverage
Belcher  
bubba0825 : 9/8/2019 4:53 pm : link
Has them ready to play today
Remember  
huygens20 : 9/8/2019 4:53 pm : link
When people talked about the huge defensive overhaul at the dB position would fix our defense
This d is going to wear down later  
micky : 9/8/2019 4:53 pm : link
Well quick tying td there lol
We’re still sh*tty  
Mike in NY : 9/8/2019 4:53 pm : link
And still can’t cover TE
Everyone worried about Whitten  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 4:53 pm : link
I said worry about Jarwin ...
Like last season same shit .
we're making Dak look like  
markky : 9/8/2019 4:53 pm : link
Joe Montana
Wow.  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 4:53 pm : link
Awful. Blown coverage. That's probably because our DBs are either rookies or haven't played together.
Giants will need to light up the scoreboard today  
Steve in ATL : 9/8/2019 4:54 pm : link
.
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 4:54 pm : link
So maybe the coverage confusion wasn't all Collins?
Yeah.  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/8/2019 4:54 pm : link
Barkley and the offense need to keep
This defense off the field. Totally busted coverage.

7-7 at the end of 1 pretty good considering the D looks lost
Painful.......  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:54 pm : link
That was too easy for Dallas.....Defense is definitely a big time work in progress.
Our D  
Giants86 : 9/8/2019 4:54 pm : link
Is a big problem. Zero pass rush.
I hate when Fox does these games  
bluesince56 : 9/8/2019 4:54 pm : link
Both announcers are Dallas cheerleaders
Fat boy needs to make sure the entire D knows assignments.  
GiantsUA : 9/8/2019 4:54 pm : link
.
Bethea?  
trueblueinpw : 9/8/2019 4:54 pm : link
WTF?!
Linebacker  
MookGiants : 9/8/2019 4:54 pm : link
and safety play on this team is going to be a huge issue. Along with no pass rush.

Offense at least looks good. Going to need to score a bunch today to win.
Can’t play zone on the earlier third downs  
hitdog42 : 9/8/2019 4:55 pm : link
On that series
That is what kept it alive
Play fcking man and make a stop
Run defense has been pretty solid  
Greg from LI : 9/8/2019 4:55 pm : link
Pass defense was embarrassing. Gonna see a whole lot of blown coverages like that with such a green secondary.
RE: ...  
crick n NC : 9/8/2019 4:55 pm : link
In comment 14564132 christian said:
Quote:
So maybe the coverage confusion wasn't all Collins?


The confusion? No, but physically Collins couldn't cover
This is going to be  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 4:55 pm : link
a dogfight to the end. Just need to keep fighting.
Peppers gave up more coverages TDs than Collins last year  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 4:55 pm : link
.
Peppers bit  
Dave on the UWS : 9/8/2019 4:55 pm : link
on the play action.
RE: I hate when Fox does these games  
Mdgiantsfan : 9/8/2019 4:55 pm : link
In comment 14564136 bluesince56 said:
Quote:
Both announcers are Dallas cheerleaders


Yep exactly why I mute the tv smh
Defense  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/8/2019 4:55 pm : link
Needs to play together for a while to avoid that kind of thing. Going to take some time.
The  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 4:55 pm : link
defense is the proverbial "work in progress." Remember that we spent seven picks on the defense, and didn't draft another offensive player after Jones until Slayton in the fifth.
RE: Linebacker  
nyjuggernaut2 : 9/8/2019 4:55 pm : link
In comment 14564139 MookGiants said:
Quote:
and safety play on this team is going to be a huge issue. Along with no pass rush.

Offense at least looks good. Going to need to score a bunch today to win.


Defense will be the team’s Achilles heel this season. Just no playmakers on that side of the ball.
Based on reactions  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 4:56 pm : link
looks like Peppers was expecting Bethea to have deep center
RE: I hate when Fox does these games  
John In CO : 9/8/2019 4:56 pm : link
In comment 14564136 bluesince56 said:
Quote:
Both announcers are Dallas cheerleaders


Im listening to Papa/Banks on the computer and for the first time I can remember, the broadcast is in line with the TV broadcast, no delay.
D Coordinator sucks!  
ZogZerg : 9/8/2019 4:56 pm : link
You can't have that.
Green secondary?  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 4:56 pm : link
Who Baker? One player
RE: I hate when Fox does these games  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 4:56 pm : link
In comment 14564136 bluesince56 said:
Quote:
Both announcers are Dallas cheerleaders


Yeah Jerry should buy them uni's and pom poms
RE: Run defense has been pretty solid  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:56 pm : link
In comment 14564141 Greg from LI said:
Quote:
Pass defense was embarrassing. Gonna see a whole lot of blown coverages like that with such a green secondary.


And Zero pass rush!
We need to send the blitz  
90.Cal : 9/8/2019 4:56 pm : link
And jump everything. Dak can only throw a quick pass.

That blown coverage was awful. He was so open that Dak nearly missed him.
Bbi  
crick n NC : 9/8/2019 4:56 pm : link
Already know who's responsible for the mistake before the coaches hmm
Gonna happy often  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 9/8/2019 4:57 pm : link
Secondary is brand new
same old same old te, middle of field stuff. hard to believe year in  
plato : 9/8/2019 4:57 pm : link
year out the giants no matter the personnel or coaches, are so vulnerable to middle of th3 field stuff.
So it was Davis  
RobCarpenter : 9/8/2019 4:57 pm : link
.
RE: Peppers gave up more coverages TDs than Collins last year  
Greg from LI : 9/8/2019 4:57 pm : link
In comment 14564144 Ten Ton Hammer said:
Quote:
.


The slobbering over Peppers after the trade was such a joke. The guy has done jack shit in the NFL but some people were fawning over him as if he were an All Pro.
RE: Bethea?  
mrvax : 9/8/2019 4:57 pm : link
In comment 14564138 trueblueinpw said:
Quote:
WTF?!


That's what I was thinking. Where was he?
same old same old te, middle of field stuff. hard to believe year in  
plato : 9/8/2019 4:57 pm : link
year out the giants no matter the personnel or coaches, are so vulnerable to middle of th3 field stuff.
RE: Peppers bit  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 4:57 pm : link
In comment 14564145 Dave on the UWS said:
Quote:
on the play action.


Not really. Hard to know without knowing the assignments but that looked like Bethea
I don’t think Prescott thougt  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:57 pm : link
the TE would be so open!
Eli  
rocco8112 : 9/8/2019 4:58 pm : link
can't throw screens
RE: The  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/8/2019 4:58 pm : link
In comment 14564148 AcidTest said:
Quote:
defense is the proverbial "work in progress." Remember that we spent seven picks on the defense, and didn't draft another offensive player after Jones until Slayton in the fifth.


Very true. But at this point I’m hardly convinced Betcher is some great DC. Prescott sucks and between making sure he’s got zero to worry about not loving his tenure
Fantastic  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 4:58 pm : link
downfield block by Halapio.
'boys  
rocco8112 : 9/8/2019 4:58 pm : link
not ready for the Eli ground game
Nice run by Eli Vick  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 4:58 pm : link
.
Really don't think that was on Peppers  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 4:59 pm : link
Watch it again when they come back from break
RE: RE: ...  
christian : 9/8/2019 4:59 pm : link
In comment 14564142 crick n NC said:
Quote:
In comment 14564132 christian said:


Quote:


So maybe the coverage confusion wasn't all Collins?



The confusion? No, but physically Collins couldn't cover


Collins was pretty vocal after the season that the confusion in the secondary caused what looked like a lot of late coverage for him. I don't completely doubt that.
Wow.  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 4:59 pm : link
Saquon just runs over Brown.
Barry Sanders  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 4:59 pm : link
Part II
Lol Barkley  
Joey from GlenCove : 9/8/2019 4:59 pm : link
Amazing
it's nice to have a  
nicky43 : 9/8/2019 4:59 pm : link
decent oline
Too pass happy  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 4:59 pm : link
.
Barkley  
rocco8112 : 9/8/2019 4:59 pm : link
looks good, Giants may have something there.
We  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:00 pm : link
were very fortunate that wasn't intercepted.
Wtf is the ahands to the face?!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:00 pm : link
.
WTF...That was hands to the face  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 5:00 pm : link
Eli got malled
Shot to the head  
Route 9 : 9/8/2019 5:00 pm : link
Of the QB
RE: Barkley  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 5:01 pm : link
In comment 14564179 rocco8112 said:
Quote:
looks good, Giants may have something there.


yeah good pickup. Awesome job by the scouts finding this hidden gem... :)
I thought  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/8/2019 5:01 pm : link
You couldn’t hit the QB in the head
Eli  
MookGiants : 9/8/2019 5:01 pm : link
hs to eat that first down throw. Thankfully it didn't get intercepted.

Offensive game plan looks good.
RE: I thought  
markky : 9/8/2019 5:01 pm : link
In comment 14564185 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
Quote:
You couldn’t hit the QB in the head


obvious penalty
Shurmur  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:01 pm : link
doesn't like the call granting the time out.
Mmmmmm taste that home cookin'  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:01 pm : link
Time out my ass
Pat is mad!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:02 pm : link
BS
BULLSHITT  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 5:02 pm : link
reffs
Fuck gotta beat the refs today too...  
trueblueinpw : 9/8/2019 5:02 pm : link
Always the case in fucking Dallas.
That's  
MookGiants : 9/8/2019 5:02 pm : link
fucking garbage. They gave him a timeout AFTER they were lined up. Ridiculous
Went back..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 5:02 pm : link
and they missed a facemask on Barkley on that last tackle - and now this bullshit
Oooh lucky cowboys call  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:02 pm : link
Lol
Of course  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 5:02 pm : link
they'e granted the TO
Two Texas Refs  
Mike in NY : 9/8/2019 5:02 pm : link
Boston and Anderson bailing out Cowboys
RE: Shurmur  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 5:02 pm : link
In comment 14564188 AcidTest said:
Quote:
doesn't like the call granting the time out.


what gave you that idea? the screaming?
Good job throwing it away  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:03 pm : link
.
Fuck Dallas!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:03 pm : link
Assholes
Banks and Papa  
Steve in ATL : 9/8/2019 5:03 pm : link
said the officials flags were out before the Cowboys called timeout.
Like  
MookGiants : 9/8/2019 5:03 pm : link
going for it, hate that play call.
Eli is getting  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 5:03 pm : link
beat up
Fuck off  
Route 9 : 9/8/2019 5:03 pm : link
.
Hate that call  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 5:03 pm : link
Shurmur
Now thats familar  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:03 pm : link
.
Eli blew that...  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 5:03 pm : link
he had a guy wide open but did not have the athleticism to compose himself and make the throw under pressure
Eli bleeding under eye  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/8/2019 5:03 pm : link
.
Complete..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 5:04 pm : link
BS series of 3-4 plays.
Refs really bailing out Dallas  
Mike in NY : 9/8/2019 5:04 pm : link
He was contacted as he threw
I stand corrected  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:04 pm : link
Bad job by Eli.
There's your first hinge play/sequence of the game  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:04 pm : link
.
What would an NFL game be without  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/8/2019 5:04 pm : link
Bad reffing and Aikman being a fucking asshole
What an abortion  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 5:04 pm : link
of a series of bs calls
Eli got beat up there  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:04 pm : link
.
how is that grounding  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 5:04 pm : link
when he was throwing at a receiver?
Horseshit fuckin call  
Greg from LI : 9/8/2019 5:04 pm : link
Hit as he threw!
These refs are in mid season  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:04 pm : link
Form!
they has  
rocco8112 : 9/8/2019 5:04 pm : link
12 men. NFl ordered flag picked up. Eli was cracked in face, no call.
RE: how is that grounding  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:04 pm : link
In comment 14564216 RasputinPrime said:
Quote:
when he was throwing at a receiver?


The ball didn't get back to the LOS.
When..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 5:04 pm : link
is that ever called grounding??

And the facemask on Barkley was blatant
You fucking kidding me?  
MookGiants : 9/8/2019 5:04 pm : link
Saquon was a few yards away. How is that fucking grounding?

That is under no circumstance intentional grounding. Saquon was there. If that's grounding, then every screen pass that is thrown away needs to be grounding too.
BS calls  
Dave on the UWS : 9/8/2019 5:05 pm : link
Home cooking!
RE: Eli blew that...  
McNally's_Nuts : 9/8/2019 5:05 pm : link
In comment 14564207 EricJ said:
Quote:
he had a guy wide open but did not have the athleticism to compose himself and make the throw under pressure


You truly are a fucking moron
Got fucked over twice on that drive by the refs  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 5:05 pm : link
Hands to the face and 12 men on the field
RE: how is that grounding  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 5:05 pm : link
In comment 14564216 RasputinPrime said:
Quote:
when he was throwing at a receiver?


Yea, dont get it. It was to Barkley. It shouldn't matter if it didnt reach the line
RE: RE: how is that grounding  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 5:05 pm : link
In comment 14564220 AcidTest said:
Quote:
In comment 14564216 RasputinPrime said:


Quote:


when he was throwing at a receiver?



The ball didn't get back to the LOS.


That's BS too. Then failed screens would be grounding
RE: You fucking kidding me?  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:05 pm : link
In comment 14564222 MookGiants said:
Quote:
Saquon was a few yards away. How is that fucking grounding?

That is under no circumstance intentional grounding. Saquon was there. If that's grounding, then every screen pass that is thrown away needs to be grounding too.


Didn't get to the LOS.
He was also out of the pocket  
NYerInMA : 9/8/2019 5:05 pm : link
Do not get that grounding call at all.
Two  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/8/2019 5:05 pm : link
Consecutive calls
Cowboys wining and dining the right people  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 9/8/2019 5:05 pm : link
as usual I see.
And here come the refs.  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 5:05 pm : link
.
Shurmur, you have the best RB in the league  
nyjuggernaut2 : 9/8/2019 5:05 pm : link
and an improved OL. You need one lousy yard, just give it to Saquon there. Especially if you were already planning on going for it on 4th down.
Mid Season Dallas calls  
Saos1n : 9/8/2019 5:05 pm : link
Of course it is
RE: You fucking kidding me?  
markky : 9/8/2019 5:05 pm : link
In comment 14564222 MookGiants said:
Quote:
Saquon was a few yards away. How is that fucking grounding?

That is under no circumstance intentional grounding. Saquon was there. If that's grounding, then every screen pass that is thrown away needs to be grounding too.


it's absolutely not grounding. he was trying to throw it to Barkley but was being contacted by a defender. WTF. that is a crazy call.
RE: RE: how is that grounding  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:05 pm : link
In comment 14564220 AcidTest said:
Quote:
In comment 14564216 RasputinPrime said:


Quote:


when he was throwing at a receiver?



The ball didn't get back to the LOS.


Doesn't have to with a receiver in the vicinity
RE: Shurmur, you have the best RB in the league  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 5:06 pm : link
In comment 14564233 nyjuggernaut2 said:
Quote:
and an improved OL. You need one lousy yard, just give it to Saquon there. Especially if you were already planning on going for it on 4th down.

Agree. Definitely got too cute there.
Refs  
LeftHook : 9/8/2019 5:06 pm : link
In mid-season form, lol what a fucking joke.
Stupid roll out  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 5:06 pm : link
When you need one fucking yard they screwed us
with the BS TO
Awful call  
Stu11 : 9/8/2019 5:06 pm : link
There was a receiver in the area. Awful call giving them the TO. As usual Jerruh gets his $ worth from the refs.
Oh God, another year of EricJ  
bceagle05 : 9/8/2019 5:06 pm : link
bitching about every Eli sneeze.
Guys... relax with the refs already  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 5:06 pm : link
we had a bad play called. Even on the play before where we thought the defense had 12 men... we snapped the ball and that play was not going anywhere either.

Rolling out Eli (one of the least athletic QBs in the league) is not the most ideal type of play to run. Not to mention the two primary receivers on that side of the field were covered.
RE: You fucking kidding me?  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 5:06 pm : link
In comment 14564222 MookGiants said:
Quote:
Saquon was a few yards away. How is that fucking grounding?

That is under no circumstance intentional grounding. Saquon was there. If that's grounding, then every screen pass that is thrown away needs to be grounding too.


Yup. It was blatantly obvious he wasn't grounding at all, he was trying to get the ball to 26.
Chronic  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 5:06 pm : link
bitching about refs. Who heard the call for the TO watching on TV.Eli threw before he was hit. Wish we had a mobile QB
RE: RE: Eli blew that...  
GiantFanInTX : 9/8/2019 5:06 pm : link
In comment 14564224 McNally's_Nuts said:
Quote:
In comment 14564207 EricJ said:


Quote:


he had a guy wide open but did not have the athleticism to compose himself and make the throw under pressure



You truly are a fucking moron


Why is he a moron? It's a true statement. Doesn't mean "Eli Sucks". It's the difference right now between the two QBs. Dak faced the same situation and was able to throw it to the wide open seam route.
Worst calls I’ve seen all day...  
trueblueinpw : 9/8/2019 5:06 pm : link
Nothing else even close. What a fucking joke.
Dallas getting all the calls is nothing new  
bluesince56 : 9/8/2019 5:06 pm : link
It really started in the eighties
RE: RE: RE: how is that grounding  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:06 pm : link
In comment 14564227 FatMan in Charlotte said:
Quote:
In comment 14564220 AcidTest said:


Quote:


In comment 14564216 RasputinPrime said:


Quote:


when he was throwing at a receiver?



The ball didn't get back to the LOS.



That's BS too. Then failed screens would be grounding


I think it's because he was also under pressure.
So any time a QB gets hit and then ball doesn’t  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/8/2019 5:07 pm : link
Cross LOS it’s grounding. And Even after they point it out Aikman shitson Eli. Yeah. Only the self hating Giant fans think he’s objective.
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 5:07 pm : link
The Cowboys defense is living near the line of scrimmage. The Giants need to complete a route downfield. Screen and bubbles aren't going to cut it all game.
Manning was hit as he was trying to throw  
crick n NC : 9/8/2019 5:07 pm : link
That should negate not getting the ball to the LOS
I'd..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 5:07 pm : link
let the graze to Eli's head go, but then they missed the facemask, the too many men penalty and then that grounding horseshit.

Thanks Walt Anderson!! Texan Walt Anderson
Eli's limitations haunted us on that drive.  
xman : 9/8/2019 5:07 pm : link
Just a wasted opportunity on the road . hope D can step up and cover for the faux pas
RE: He was also out of the pocket  
Steve in ATL : 9/8/2019 5:07 pm : link
In comment 14564229 NYerInMA said:
Quote:
Do not get that grounding call at all.


the ruling was the throw landed short of the line of scrimmage.


Good to see Shurmur fired up.  
CT Charlie : 9/8/2019 5:07 pm : link
Refs deserved it there -- and I usually don't dump on refs.
How can you be penalized  
oldutican : 9/8/2019 5:07 pm : link
for not throwing past the line when you are hit while throwing? Football is such an inferior sport cause of the rules and their interpretation.
RE: Oh God, another year of EricJ  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 5:07 pm : link
In comment 14564241 bceagle05 said:
Quote:
bitching about every Eli sneeze.


I guess you don't pay much attention or you have me confused with someone else. I am constantly praising Eli. Look back after our TD on the first drive.
His arm was hit while throwing.  
jimvinct : 9/8/2019 5:07 pm : link
Not sure how that is grounding.
RE: Chronic  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:07 pm : link
In comment 14564244 XBRONX said:
Quote:
bitching about refs. Who heard the call for the TO watching on TV.Eli threw before he was hit. Wish we had a mobile QB


I rarely complain about refs but they fucked that one up. Hopefully it'll balance out. Usually does.
a bunch of crucial no calls or bad calls  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/8/2019 5:07 pm : link
Hands to the face
Granting time-out
Eli was hit - shouldn't have been grounding

Game's gonna be hard enough - don't need the refs making it more difficult

BTW, Eli's bleeding under his left eye - came on no call on # 90's hands to his face
Eli is the most unprotected QB  
SteelGiant : 9/8/2019 5:07 pm : link
Ever since the sissy can't touch the QB in the head rule, I feel like Eli always gets head contact and never called
Dallas Homer Refs  
DeepBlueJint : 9/8/2019 5:08 pm : link
(1) Supposed time out. BS
(2) Eli grounding the ball? Watch the replay. Van Der Esch hit his upper arm as he threw.

When playing the Cowgirls, it never surprises me that fate is the hunter. The refs are always favoring Dallas. They simply need the opportunity.
That was 100% on Eli  
jvm52106 : 9/8/2019 5:08 pm : link
for the grounding and just mot throwing when he had the chance. When you do that fast snap play action you roll and hace to throw right away or you throw it out of bounds. Instead, we get classic Eli. What Jones will eventually bring is the ability to just run in that case.
Eli was so far out of the tackle box, it was ridiculous.  
Mr. Bungle : 9/8/2019 5:08 pm : link
GTFO with shit, NFL...
Why are the CBs so far off?  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:08 pm : link
It’s pitch and catch!
Soft D  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:08 pm : link
.
Eli had the new TE open over the middle  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:09 pm : link
Just didn't have th athleticism to get it there
Howard Cross  
Steve in ATL : 9/8/2019 5:09 pm : link
said the ref admitted a mistake on the timeout/too many men play.
That was a great  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 5:09 pm : link
throw.
Secondary just overmatched  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:09 pm : link
,
RE: Eli had the new TE open over the middle  
GiantFanInTX : 9/8/2019 5:09 pm : link
In comment 14564267 j_rud said:
Quote:
Just didn't have th athleticism to get it there


This exactly.
We  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:10 pm : link
blitz and get burned by a great throw by Prescott. Slants are killing us.
What a throw by dak  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:10 pm : link
Whoa
This defense is absolutely atrocious  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:10 pm : link
.
This D sucks  
ZogZerg : 9/8/2019 5:10 pm : link
..
Oh boy this defense se!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:10 pm : link
.
Cowboys off and running  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:10 pm : link
.
Wasn’t that a pick?  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:11 pm : link
.
14-7 soon here  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:11 pm : link
.
RE: RE: Eli blew that...  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 5:11 pm : link
In comment 14564224 McNally's_Nuts said:
Quote:
In comment 14564207 EricJ said:


Quote:


he had a guy wide open but did not have the athleticism to compose himself and make the throw under pressure



You truly are a fucking moron


You know... I thought that after experiencing a loss in your life that it would possibly help you to maybe be a better person. Realizing that life is short, etc etc

But no.. you continue to be the same miserable person that you were last season.
No D  
Giants86 : 9/8/2019 5:11 pm : link
Can’t win like that
Run  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:11 pm : link
defense is fine, especially against this Dallas OL. But the secondary and pass rush need work. Das though has made some great throws.
Aikman still babbling about  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 9/8/2019 5:11 pm : link
intentional grounding. He was a mile outside the tackle box...Troy should know this. Or is he just a homer?
The ol Erck Flowers Special  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:11 pm : link
.
RE: This defense is absolutely atrocious  
family progtitioner : 9/8/2019 5:11 pm : link
In comment 14564274 BestFeature said:
Quote:
.


Going to be 2009, 2015 bad
this defense  
MookGiants : 9/8/2019 5:11 pm : link
has train wreck written all over it. Bethea, Ogletree, the rest of the linebackers all stink.
This defense is  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 5:12 pm : link
dogshit
Holy shit this defense  
Route 9 : 9/8/2019 5:12 pm : link
is much like the one that got scored on by little girls in the Super bowl commercial
Hamilton sucks as anCB  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:12 pm : link
.
Our defense has sucked  
Essex : 9/8/2019 5:12 pm : link
but on that long pass, we had good pressure and decent coverage; just a darn good throw
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 5:12 pm : link
Giants are rotating a lot of guys in the secondary.
Micky  
crick n NC : 9/8/2019 5:12 pm : link
Loving the way his flavors are playing
Why is Hamilton playing over Ballantine?  
nyjuggernaut2 : 9/8/2019 5:12 pm : link
??
Absolutely embarrassing  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:12 pm : link
.
These new DBs are going to take soome time.  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 5:12 pm : link
It's how it is.
Why the fuck is Hamilton out there  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
.
Hanilton  
LeftHook : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
Awful........... ugh
Where are all those BBIers..  
M.S. : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
Who say Dak suck?

terrible defense  
Steve in ATL : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
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So it's gonna be that kinda day...  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
Fucking fundamentals lol
Unbelievable  
Mike in NY : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
Gotta tackle and it costs us a TD
Lmao  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
Holy
Hamilton  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
flat out sucks
That  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
was horrible. We should have at least stopped Cobb short of the first down.

And then a great fake by Prescott who throws to Witten for the TD.
RE: RE: RE: Eli blew that...  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
In comment 14564280 EricJ said:
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In comment 14564224 McNally's_Nuts said:


Quote:


In comment 14564207 EricJ said:


Quote:


he had a guy wide open but did not have the athleticism to compose himself and make the throw under pressure



You truly are a fucking moron



You know... I thought that after experiencing a loss in your life that it would possibly help you to maybe be a better person. Realizing that life is short, etc etc

But no.. you continue to be the same miserable person that you were last season.

Why would you use something like this to take a cheap shot on someone on a football message board?

Really fucked up on your part
Welp the D still blows  
nygmen84 : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
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I really have seen enough of Hamilton  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
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This is going to get out of hand quickly.  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
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I saw that coming from my chair!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
Fucking tooo easy!
Still not sold on Shurmur..  
prdave73 : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
Those offense calls are a good example. Smh
Daniel jones will be starting mid season  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
with this defense
69th TD for Witten  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
65th against the Giants
#30 Hamilton  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
Is atrocious. Tow plays the same drive This defense is going’s to be hard to watch.
Get Hamilton the FUCK out of the game  
ZogZerg : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
PATHETIC
It's going to be a  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
looong year with this defense.
Remember  
huygens20 : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
Dave gentleman

:


We need to draft 2 immediate impact starters
#30  
Route 9 : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
What a pussy effort
I liked Whitten better in the broadcast booth  
Essex : 9/8/2019 5:13 pm : link
...
And Witten lmfao  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
Typical giants
First quarter was fun  
GiantsUA : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
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RE: Where are all those BBIers..  
UConn4523 : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
In comment 14564300 M.S. said:
Quote:
Who say Dak suck?


Well we have no pass rush, what exactly do you expect? He isn’t pressured and is making throws any qb should make.

And no one thinks he sucks, he isn’t a top QB.
this is just embarassing  
markky : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
they need to figure out what they're doing back there
Pathetic effort  
Mr. Bungle : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
by Hamilton.
Defense needs some work  
Rong5611 : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
Ugh
Bettcher  
LeftHook : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
Needs to figure this shit show out...........
RE: These new DBs are going to take soome time.  
christian : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
In comment 14564297 FStubbs said:
Quote:
It's how it is.


The incumbent DBs look like shit too, so at least it's consistent.
This defense is total shit  
jeff57 : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
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Easy TD  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
Hamilton got to make that stop .
Was it over  
igotyourbackman : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
When the German bombed Pearl Harbor?!
No talent on D  
Giants86 : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
Can’t win like this
RE: Where are all those BBIers..  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
In comment 14564300 M.S. said:
Quote:
Who say Dak suck?


He doesn't suck, he's not great, but he doesn't have to be against this shithole of a secondary.
RE: Eli had the new TE open over the middle  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
In comment 14564267 j_rud said:
Quote:
Just didn't have th athleticism to get it there


That is what I said too... right before the troll chimed in.
The DBs....  
nzyme : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
Maybe it wasn't such a hot idea to make almost the entire defensive backfield full of rookies...
Fucking ghost of Jason Whitten  
NYDCBlue : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
Back from the grave....
Fully expecting one more TD before the night ends.
S.O.S  
thrunthrublue : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
Same old shurmer......5 and 11, if he gets a couple calls from the refs.
Well,  
RenierWolfcastle : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
at least the offense is getting plenty of rest......
Jason Witten and his liver spots  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
leaving Thomas in his dust
Other teams just need  
halfback20 : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
To throw to their tight ends in the red zone all year. TD every time

Defense is  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/8/2019 5:14 pm : link
Overplaying. Getting themselves out of position. Trying to do too much.
Who didn't see that  
David B. : 9/8/2019 5:15 pm : link
coming?
RE: RE: RE: Eli blew that...  
McNally's_Nuts : 9/8/2019 5:15 pm : link
In comment 14564280 EricJ said:
Quote:
In comment 14564224 McNally's_Nuts said:


Quote:


In comment 14564207 EricJ said:


Quote:


he had a guy wide open but did not have the athleticism to compose himself and make the throw under pressure



You truly are a fucking moron



You know... I thought that after experiencing a loss in your life that it would possibly help you to maybe be a better person. Realizing that life is short, etc etc

But no.. you continue to be the same miserable person that you were last season.


I’m learning to be a much better person, but I call out stupidity when I see it.
How is it betchers fault Hamilton can't tackle?  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/8/2019 5:15 pm : link
Why the fuck is he starting anyway
TEs TDs  
ChaChing : 9/8/2019 5:15 pm : link
and of course Witten vs NYG. Whatever has changed on D, that hasn't
Hamilton  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 5:15 pm : link
are new piece of shit in the secondary. This years BW Webb
RE: What a throw by dak  
santacruzom : 9/8/2019 5:15 pm : link
In comment 14564273 micky said:
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Whoa


Yeah, I wish he sucked as much as people say he does.
James belcher  
bubba0825 : 9/8/2019 5:15 pm : link
Clearly has them ready to play today. Boarderline unprofessional
I knew I should've  
chuckydee9 : 9/8/2019 5:15 pm : link
Played Witten in fantasy football.. if the cowboys activate 5 years after he dies.. he'll still kill the Giants..
RE: Where are all those BBIers..  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:15 pm : link
In comment 14564300 M.S. said:
Quote:
Who say Dak suck?


I don’t get that?! He’s a good enough QB in this system and he’s athletic. He’s got a good team around him however too!
the defense sucks  
rocco8112 : 9/8/2019 5:15 pm : link
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Worst Back Four  
Percy : 9/8/2019 5:15 pm : link
In the league. Slow, weak, and can't tackle. Looking for a very bad season now.
It's so amusing that Buck says  
Mr. Bungle : 9/8/2019 5:15 pm : link
"no doubt" it was grounding, Pierera says it was "clearly" grounding...


...but the NFL rules say it wasn't.
But I was told Gettleman upgraded this  
Default : 9/8/2019 5:15 pm : link
defense by signing no names and drafting?
This defense looks terrible  
illmatic : 9/8/2019 5:16 pm : link
aside from the line. Hopefully Bettcher can do something to turn it around.
meant our  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 5:16 pm : link
too pissed of typing
I'm not sure  
MookGiants : 9/8/2019 5:16 pm : link
what their is to figure out. The defense has very few good players. And zero elite players.

The offense will be improved. But the defense has a decent chance to be one of the worst in the entire league.
There mixing it up  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 5:16 pm : link
and keeping us off balance .
RE: Was it over  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:16 pm : link
In comment 14564331 igotyourbackman said:
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When the German bombed Pearl Harbor?!


Pearl Harbor, somehow, was more ready to face an aerial attack
people thought this defense would be competitive?  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 5:16 pm : link
we have absolutely no one able to get to the QB and our secondary is leaky as sh*t. And we still can't guard TE's to save our lives.
It’s crazy how basically no one  
McNally's_Nuts : 9/8/2019 5:16 pm : link
knows how to form tackle in the NFL now. Throwing your shoulder out there isn’t tackling
At least Baker can tackle  
RobCarpenter : 9/8/2019 5:16 pm : link
That was awful from Hamilton.
Guys  
Marty866b : 9/8/2019 5:16 pm : link
We all knew this defense was going to suck. Going into last season we had Snacks, Vernon and Collins and the defense sucked. Do you think the players who replaced those guys are any better? We can't rush the passer and still can't cover. We have one good corner until proven otherwise.
C’mon  
Hsilwek92 : 9/8/2019 5:16 pm : link
Like we all didn’t see that coming.

Fucking christ.
When we blitz  
GiantFanInTX : 9/8/2019 5:16 pm : link
the opposing QBs know EXACTLY where to go with the ball. When we get blitzed, Eli looks lost and holds onto the ball. He doesn't identify his hot read on blitzes, and he lacks the athleticism to extend the play. You need to have one or the other. That is why the Giants struggle on 3rd downs and opposing teams get us in 3rd and long and it's a done deal.
If someone wants a positive  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:16 pm : link
This is how the D looked week 1 in 2007 against them too.
Don't worry about 1 call, they way it looks now it won't make a  
GiantsUA : 9/8/2019 5:16 pm : link
difference
Anyone who thought  
Dave on the UWS : 9/8/2019 5:16 pm : link
This defense game 1 against this offense, was going to be even passable was kidding themselves.
RE: I'm not sure  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:16 pm : link
In comment 14564357 MookGiants said:
Quote:
what their is to figure out. The defense has very few good players. And zero elite players.

The offense will be improved. But the defense has a decent chance to be one of the worst in the entire league.


Its a given
The NY Giants  
GiantsRage2007 : 9/8/2019 5:16 pm : link
Not covering Tight Ends since 1987.

FFS.
Defense Still MIA  
Jeffrey : 9/8/2019 5:16 pm : link
Davis is not a starter on most teams and Hamilton is at best a sub. Willing to be patient but through pre-season and this first quarter it looks like this team will have to win shootouts
Damn do I hate Garret’s fucking smugness!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:17 pm : link
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We've got an awful lot of shit players who are good at special teams  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 5:17 pm : link
on the field. Thomas, Hamilton etc.
I think  
santacruzom : 9/8/2019 5:17 pm : link
They ought to run Barkley a little more.
It’s going to take them a bit to get on the same page  
NY-Fan : 9/8/2019 5:17 pm : link
Not going to be hitting the ground running week one.
Offense has to carry the team.  
Jim in Hoboken : 9/8/2019 5:17 pm : link
Can't leave plays on the field.
RE: I'm not sure  
RobCarpenter : 9/8/2019 5:17 pm : link
In comment 14564357 MookGiants said:
Quote:
what their is to figure out. The defense has very few good players. And zero elite players.

The offense will be improved. But the defense has a decent chance to be one of the worst in the entire league.


The Dolphins would beg to differ
safety play and Hamilton  
Blue Ninja : 9/8/2019 5:17 pm : link
whoof
Pothetic  
Beer Man : 9/8/2019 5:18 pm : link
Why do they have Hamilton in the starting line-up.
All kids and snacks in the secondary  
Stu11 : 9/8/2019 5:18 pm : link
We'll have better days down the road but they're getting torched today.
Let's  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:19 pm : link
wait and see what happens. A lot of overreacting.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Eli blew that...  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 5:19 pm : link
In comment 14564307 montanagiant said:
Quote:

Why would you use something like this to take a cheap shot on someone on a football message board?

Really fucked up on your part


Montana.. I am just tired of this guy constantly pulling this shit with me as if he has some type of agenda. No idea why either especially since I really never interacted with him in the past.

I quite honestly held back from saying it the last 5 times he decided to just come after me without provocation. This was the last straw.

I am sure you have never seen me say anything like that before.
Walt Anderson is Red Cashen II.  
carpoon : 9/8/2019 5:19 pm : link
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Mistakes  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:20 pm : link
What else is new
RE: Anyone who thought  
prdave73 : 9/8/2019 5:20 pm : link
In comment 14564368 Dave on the UWS said:
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This defense game 1 against this offense, was going to be even passable was kidding themselves.


Seriously.. what did most think? Giants defense lacks so much quality players, they are not stacked like the rest of the NFC East teams?! This was expected..
How many damn screens are we going to see????  
nzyme : 9/8/2019 5:20 pm : link
If you're not going to throw the ball downfield put Daniel Jones in then!!!
MFer  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:20 pm : link
. Garrett is an asshole if he thinks that was a turnover!
Should've  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 5:21 pm : link
Just thrown to Barkley there
enough with this QB  
bigblue18 : 9/8/2019 5:21 pm : link
we are so limited with ELI
Well it was fun while it lasted  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:21 pm : link
I have zero faith in this defense.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Eli blew that...  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 5:21 pm : link
In comment 14564343 McNally's_Nuts said:
Quote:

I’m learning to be a much better person, but I call out stupidity when I see it.


I like to call it out also... without personal attacks. For some reason you seem to do that often. Now, lets move on from this and start over.

By the way, I was not the only one here who thought there was a play to be made.
eli plenty of time....  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 5:21 pm : link
he drops it off on 3rd and long again...enough of this
Nothing downfield by eli  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 5:21 pm : link
just short dump offs and screens
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 5:21 pm : link
The Cowboys are just lining up and delivering on these screens and dumps offs.

This isn't a pro offense in 2019.
All kids and jackrabbit I meant  
Stu11 : 9/8/2019 5:21 pm : link
.
Ok now 21-7  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:22 pm : link
Here it comes
It'll be 21 7 before you can blink.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2019 5:22 pm : link
Oh well. At least we were up 7 0.
Have to stop making these throws  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 5:22 pm : link
behind the line of scrimmage get the ball downfield
Dallas much to fast on defense .
At least  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 5:22 pm : link
our solid punter doing a good job.
RE: enough with this QB  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 5:22 pm : link
In comment 14564390 bigblue18 said:
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we are so limited with ELI


by week 7 it will be DJ
RE: Ok now 21-7  
LeftHook : 9/8/2019 5:22 pm : link
In comment 14564397 micky said:
Quote:
Here it comes
ditto.......
Deep Passing  
Jeffrey : 9/8/2019 5:22 pm : link
Eli needs to show he can go deep at least to get the defense to stretch it a little. Another 7 yard pass on 3rd and long.
Manning already has a little bit  
jhibb : 9/8/2019 5:22 pm : link
of happy feet going again. That's not good.
Dixon punting a tad bit better today  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:22 pm : link
but we can’t stop Dallas. It doesn’t matter how much field they have to move the ball.
That  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:22 pm : link
was definitely incomplete, but another big hit by a Cowboy defender, this time on Engram. They are getting pressure, we are not.
RUN  
Thegratefulhead : 9/8/2019 5:22 pm : link
The f****** ball
RE: eli plenty of time....  
Giant Fan Dan : 9/8/2019 5:22 pm : link
In comment 14564393 mphbullet36 said:
Quote:
he drops it off on 3rd and long again...enough of this


Who was open downfield? You don't know. So many fucking retards on this board.
Anyone else feel like  
justafan : 9/8/2019 5:23 pm : link
the Giants offensive play calling shows Shurmur is scared? Just looks like real dickless play calling. Run the ball with Barkley more or do the PA at least.

On defense, the players are making too many mistakes. In other words, not good talent there.
This is a big series...  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 5:23 pm : link
need a stop here or it'll get out of hand quickly.
Yaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!  
Johnny5 : 9/8/2019 5:23 pm : link
Another angry fucking Sunday!!!! Hooray!!!!!!
Fuck, Eli should sit if he keeps doing that.  
Jim in Hoboken : 9/8/2019 5:23 pm : link
Throwing short of the stick when there is hardly pressure. Are we trying to win or just stay healthy and not turn the ball over? We know the defense is green, give them some help.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Eli blew that...  
PetesHereNow : 9/8/2019 5:23 pm : link
In comment 14564392 EricJ said:
Quote:
In comment 14564343 McNally's_Nuts said:


Quote:



I’m learning to be a much better person, but I call out stupidity when I see it.



I like to call it out also... without personal attacks. For some reason you seem to do that often. Now, lets move on from this and start over.

By the way, I was not the only one here who thought there was a play to be made.


You’re still an asshole for bringing up the guy’s personal life during a game thread.
RE: It'll be 21 7 before you can blink.  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:23 pm : link
In comment 14564398 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
Quote:
Oh well. At least we were up 7 0.


That was their Super Bowl moment for year
Has Eli looked downfield yet?  
Pork Chop : 9/8/2019 5:23 pm : link
I know he hasn't thrown, but has he even looked?
RE: eli plenty of time....  
Joey from GlenCove : 9/8/2019 5:23 pm : link
In comment 14564393 mphbullet36 said:
Quote:
he drops it off on 3rd and long again...enough of this


Do we understand there are 7/8 guys in coverage?
RE: eli plenty of time....  
Rong5611 : 9/8/2019 5:23 pm : link
Likely no one open..

In comment 14564393 mphbullet36 said:
Quote:
he drops it off on 3rd and long again...enough of this
Why take Engram off the field on 3rd and long  
SteelGiant : 9/8/2019 5:23 pm : link
It makes no sense at all
One pick 6  
igotyourbackman : 9/8/2019 5:23 pm : link
And it’s a whole new world! LETS Go GMen
RE: RE: eli plenty of time....  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 5:23 pm : link
In comment 14564408 Giant Fan Dan said:
Quote:
In comment 14564393 mphbullet36 said:


Quote:


he drops it off on 3rd and long again...enough of this



Who was open downfield? You don't know. So many fucking retards on this board.


was there immediate pressure? he had plenty of time. On 3rd and 13 a check down should be a last resort or if you have pressure. Let the play develop.
RE: ...  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 5:23 pm : link
In comment 14564395 christian said:
Quote:
The Cowboys are just lining up and delivering on these screens and dumps offs.

This isn't a pro offense in 2019.


Actually that's most offenses in 2019. We just don't have the deep ball which makes it all work.
If eli can't throw the ball downfield anymore  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 5:24 pm : link
it's time to make the switch to jones. these dump offs/ screens are not going to win many games playing this conservatively
i can  
louied7535 : 9/8/2019 5:24 pm : link
admit that the defense looks terrible right now but it is still 14 7. sure the have some major issues but this is a game still..jesus some of you jump ship at the first glimmer of trouble
RE: It'll be 21 7 before you can blink.  
family progtitioner : 9/8/2019 5:24 pm : link
In comment 14564398 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
Quote:
Oh well. At least we were up 7 0.


All was right with the world for about 5 minutes. Then reality and the D bit us in the ass
Why does Aikman sound like he has a boner?  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/8/2019 5:24 pm : link
.
RE: If eli can't throw the ball downfield anymore  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 5:24 pm : link
In comment 14564422 Giantfan21 said:
Quote:
it's time to make the switch to jones. these dump offs/ screens are not going to win many games playing this conservatively


Eli can throw the deep ball, but who's out deep for him to throw to?
The play calling is driving me nuts  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 5:24 pm : link
very pass was a sideways pass; Shepard and EE. On 3rd and 13 we throw it 6 yds. Throw the ball down the field! You supposedly have a better OL
Hamilton is still on the field  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 5:24 pm : link
fuck me
RE: RE: eli plenty of time....  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 5:24 pm : link
In comment 14564416 Joey from GlenCove said:
Quote:
In comment 14564393 mphbullet36 said:


Quote:


he drops it off on 3rd and long again...enough of this



Do we understand there are 7/8 guys in coverage?


with that thought process why don't we just run a draw on 3rd a 13 if we aren't going to go down the field?
RE: RE: eli plenty of time....  
christian : 9/8/2019 5:24 pm : link
In comment 14564408 Giant Fan Dan said:
Quote:
In comment 14564393 mphbullet36 said:


Quote:


he drops it off on 3rd and long again...enough of this



Who was open downfield? You don't know. So many fucking retards on this board.


I think the point is no one is open. That might because the Giants have basically nothing at WR.
Well, Hamilton managed  
CT Charlie : 9/8/2019 5:25 pm : link
to push him out.
Look guys we don’t have the talent  
Giants86 : 9/8/2019 5:25 pm : link
No defense. No name players. No WRs of note. We have one stud. Barkley that’s it.
Regarding the defense...  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 5:25 pm : link
before we start to point at a lack of talent, we need to understand that when you have a lot of new players, communication is going to be a problem.

It will take time before these guys know where they are supposed to be. Unfortunately, the league does not permit the teams to practice as much as they have in the past. Couple that with the fact that we rest a lot of guys in pre-season... and this is what you end up with early in the season.
They're  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:25 pm : link
picking on Hamilton.

Das already has career high in passing yards for a first half.
Get Hamilton off this team  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:25 pm : link
.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2019 5:25 pm : link
Hamilton is trash.
Same defense as the last 7-8 years.  
Crispino : 9/8/2019 5:25 pm : link
Not a single impact player. And so we’re going to struggle again. All those picks on defense and it looks exactly the same.
They're just abusing Hamilton  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:25 pm : link
Throw in the towel with this guy, he's gonna get killed
They're just throwing to whoever Hamilton is covering  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 5:25 pm : link
.
First two plays  
Beer Man : 9/8/2019 5:25 pm : link
at Hamilton, make that first three
Hamilton still in  
jeff57 : 9/8/2019 5:25 pm : link
.
How many missed tackles by Hamilton?  
GiantsRage2007 : 9/8/2019 5:25 pm : link
4 by my count.
Too easy  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:25 pm : link
.
Going after Hamilton  
LeftHook : 9/8/2019 5:25 pm : link
lol
I really wish they would tighten up their coverage  
NY-Fan : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
Time to quit with the cushions.
RE: RE: If eli can't throw the ball downfield anymore  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
In comment 14564426 FStubbs said:
Quote:
In comment 14564422 Giantfan21 said:


Quote:


it's time to make the switch to jones. these dump offs/ screens are not going to win many games playing this conservatively



Eli can throw the deep ball, but who's out deep for him to throw to?


Giantfan, you do realize 2 of the 3 passes were called that way. It Wasn't Eli
Who is this Hamilton  
David B. : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
He's terrible.
#30. Again  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
And again. And again.

Betcher is a moron
Hamilton flat out sucks ass as a CB  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
.
I think this Hamilton guy  
santacruzom : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
May not belong on the field...
Hamilton  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
is the softest tackler in the NFL
They’re just going after Hamilton now  
illmatic : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
They have to do something about him. Another completion and missed tackle.
Has Hamilton  
Beezer : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
done anything well today?
Hamilton  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
Is killing them
Dead weight  
MookGiants : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
all over the back 7 of this defense.
Hamilton tackles like he was shot in a duel  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
or sumthin'
Why would you ever run  
jeff57 : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
Against this defense.
RE: RE: RE: eli plenty of time....  
Giant Fan Dan : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
In comment 14564420 mphbullet36 said:
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In comment 14564408 Giant Fan Dan said:


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In comment 14564393 mphbullet36 said:


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he drops it off on 3rd and long again...enough of this



Who was open downfield? You don't know. So many fucking retards on this board.



was there immediate pressure? he had plenty of time. On 3rd and 13 a check down should be a last resort or if you have pressure. Let the play develop.


To throw to who exactly? You don't know that anyone was open or even running a real route. Everyone just wants to blame the QB for everything. So far this offensive play calling has been weak cowardly shit, and they have average to below average WRs who can't get open - same story every year but let's just keep piling on Eli because in Madden you can just wing it deep and have success
Not  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
sure why Baker isn't playing. Maybe his knee is still bothering him.
Hamilton trying to let CC Brown off the hook  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
Goddamn even the QB is dropping his shoulder on him
Hamilton  
BigBlueBuff : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
needs to be taken off the field.
Hamilton is soft  
beatrixkiddo : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
like mushy as fuck soft
Dallas just picking on  
igotyourbackman : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
Hamilton
Hamilton  
Mike in NY : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
This year's Curtis Riley
Please take  
Ron Johnson : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
Hamilton out. I don’t care if the water boy plays
Thé next tackle Hamilton makes  
DoctorT : 9/8/2019 5:26 pm : link
Will be the first he makes
I'm just so  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 9/8/2019 5:27 pm : link
fucking sick of watching losing football.

At least getting Jones on the field will keep me watching
Hamilton makes Stupar look like  
Mr. Bungle : 9/8/2019 5:27 pm : link
a solid tackler.
And Ogletree  
santacruzom : 9/8/2019 5:27 pm : link
Looks much slower than I thought he is.
Will you be my Ballentine?  
SteelGiant : 9/8/2019 5:27 pm : link
I'm so confused
Get #30 off your he field  
LAGiant : 9/8/2019 5:27 pm : link
He’s terrible
Hamilton...  
nzyme : 9/8/2019 5:27 pm : link
is not good and his tackling is freaking horrible!!!!
Athletic play by Carter  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:27 pm : link
.
Where’s Peppers in  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:27 pm : link
this D?
Hamilton can't tackle  
Blue Ninja : 9/8/2019 5:27 pm : link
at all
RE: I think this Hamilton guy  
Eman11 : 9/8/2019 5:27 pm : link
In comment 14564451 santacruzom said:
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May not belong on the field...


Get Ballantine on the field.
RE: Will you be my Ballentine?  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:28 pm : link
In comment 14564471 SteelGiant said:
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I'm so confused


LOL.
I'd cut Hamilton after this game.  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 5:28 pm : link
Seriously. I think a street free agent wouldn't be any worse.
Doink! On helmet lol  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:28 pm : link
.
Ogletree  
MookGiants : 9/8/2019 5:28 pm : link
may have a C on his jersey but he is a lousy football player.
RE: Regarding the defense...  
Route 9 : 9/8/2019 5:28 pm : link
In comment 14564434 EricJ said:
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before we start to point at a lack of talent, we need to understand that when you have a lot of new players, communication is going to be a problem.

It will take time before these guys know where they are supposed to be. Unfortunately, the league does not permit the teams to practice as much as they have in the past. Couple that with the fact that we rest a lot of guys in pre-season... and this is what you end up with early in the season.


Or you could tell a ton when a player has a guy dead to rights on 3rd down, near the goal line and makes a completely worthless effort at tackling.
I'd rather it  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 5:28 pm : link
be third down. Just get them off the field.
RE: RE: RE: eli plenty of time....  
Joey from GlenCove : 9/8/2019 5:28 pm : link
In comment 14564430 mphbullet36 said:
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In comment 14564416 Joey from GlenCove said:


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In comment 14564393 mphbullet36 said:


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he drops it off on 3rd and long again...enough of this



Do we understand there are 7/8 guys in coverage?



with that thought process why don't we just run a draw on 3rd a 13 if we aren't going to go down the field?


Clearly no1 was open. I assume they wanted to drive it near the first down marker and hope to break a tackle
I'm not upset with the effort  
GiantFanInTX : 9/8/2019 5:28 pm : link
These guys are playing their asses off. At this level, talent wins. Nothing else matters. It is all about ability. The players on defense don't have the ability. It's that simple. If you can't rush the passer, you cannot win in today's NFL.
Second  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:29 pm : link
and 20 to an automatic first down.
Culture is important  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 5:29 pm : link
But you can have all the culture in the world but without talent it'll get you nowhere.
Wtf!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:29 pm : link
Had them in a hole!
Absolutely awful  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:29 pm : link
.
Give me a first on 2nd and 20  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:29 pm : link
I mean, we all knew the D was gonna be rough but it's still hard to watch
Lol!!  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:29 pm : link
.
This defense is awful  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 5:29 pm : link
. It's just overmatched pretty much on every level
RE: Culture is important  
Giants86 : 9/8/2019 5:29 pm : link
In comment 14564487 jcn56 said:
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But you can have all the culture in the world but without talent it'll get you nowhere.



ZERO TALENT
RE: I'm not upset with the effort  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:30 pm : link
In comment 14564485 GiantFanInTX said:
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These guys are playing their asses off. At this level, talent wins. Nothing else matters. It is all about ability. The players on defense don't have the ability. It's that simple. If you can't rush the passer, you cannot win in today's NFL.


Agreed. We're playing hard. But we don't have the talent to rush the passer.
Our  
Ron Johnson : 9/8/2019 5:30 pm : link
D hasn’t improved
RE: Yaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 5:30 pm : link
In comment 14564411 Johnny5 said:
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Another angry fucking Sunday!!!! Hooray!!!!!!



STFU
Eli  
jmalls23 : 9/8/2019 5:30 pm : link
If you can still say Eli isn’t an issue then you just have to be warped. He could have easily thrown it out of bounds. Cost us points
Ticky tack  
igotyourbackman : 9/8/2019 5:30 pm : link
Call in Davis
Defensive holding being an automatic first down is one  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:30 pm : link
of those rules that makes no sense.
RE: I'd cut Hamilton after this game.  
John In CO : 9/8/2019 5:30 pm : link
In comment 14564479 FStubbs said:
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Seriously. I think a street free agent wouldn't be any worse.


He is a good special teams player. Thats it. Why he is playing CB ahead of others I have no idea.
Short passes  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:30 pm : link
Easy pitch and catch
RE: RE: I'm not upset with the effort  
nicky43 : 9/8/2019 5:30 pm : link
In comment 14564494 AcidTest said:
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In comment 14564485 GiantFanInTX said:


Quote:


These guys are playing their asses off. At this level, talent wins. Nothing else matters. It is all about ability. The players on defense don't have the ability. It's that simple. If you can't rush the passer, you cannot win in today's NFL.



Agreed. We're playing hard. But we don't have the talent to rush the passer.


I too agree!
They're just toying  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 5:30 pm : link
wit us. This is way too easy.
RE: RE: Yaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!  
Johnny5 : 9/8/2019 5:30 pm : link
In comment 14564496 Bluesbreaker said:
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In comment 14564411 Johnny5 said:


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Another angry fucking Sunday!!!! Hooray!!!!!!




STFU

Yeah you can STFU
This defense is even worse than I imagined.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2019 5:30 pm : link
Good God.
Holding !  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 5:30 pm : link
fuckers
Media  
Toth029 : 9/8/2019 5:31 pm : link
Will fellate Dak and he hasn't been tou he'd by a Giant defender.
Is Baker hurt?  
larryflower37 : 9/8/2019 5:31 pm : link
Why is Hamilton in instead of him?
I predicted the Giants would win 6 or 7 games this year.  
fivehead : 9/8/2019 5:31 pm : link
After seeing this defense, I think they'll win 3 games.
RE: RE: I'm not upset with the effort  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 5:31 pm : link
In comment 14564494 AcidTest said:
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Agreed. We're playing hard. But we don't have the talent to rush the passer.


agree on the pass rush..
Barkley has 5 rushes  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 5:31 pm : link
And this defense sucks.
ToP is killing us now  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:31 pm : link
Defense can’t get off field
Anyone hearing the announcers *sigh* on Dallas penalties  
justafan : 9/8/2019 5:31 pm : link
or is that just me?
RE: Media  
Toth029 : 9/8/2019 5:31 pm : link
In comment 14564507 Toth029 said:
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Will fellate Dak and he hasn't been tou he'd by a Giant defender.


Touched 😑
Dallas O having a country club day  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:31 pm : link
.
I just don't understand the Defensive strategy  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 5:31 pm : link
We are not blitzing, yet playing soft off the WR's. It makes no sense.
Why does Jason Garrett  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:31 pm : link
always look like he just got caught trying to slip his thumb in someone's asshole?
There is nothing impressive  
Rflairr : 9/8/2019 5:32 pm : link
with this defensive coordinator. Sits on his hands too much
RE: This defense is even worse than I imagined.  
Johnny5 : 9/8/2019 5:32 pm : link
In comment 14564505 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Good God.

Yeah I knew it would not be good. But holy SHIT.
RE: Is Baker hurt?  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:32 pm : link
In comment 14564508 larryflower37 said:
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Why is Hamilton in instead of him?


Good ?
Hamilton is still on the field  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 5:32 pm : link
every fucking snap
That was a good play by Hamilton  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:32 pm : link
.
RE: Thé next tackle Hamilton makes  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 5:32 pm : link
In comment 14564467 DoctorT said:
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Will be the first he makes


There it is
How long is this drive? Lmfao  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:32 pm : link
.
RE: Why does Jason Garrett  
markky : 9/8/2019 5:32 pm : link
In comment 14564517 j_rud said:
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always look like he just got caught trying to slip his thumb in someone's asshole?


LOL!!!
Hamilton still on the field  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:32 pm : link
Fuckin plan from Jerry World
Our pass rushers  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 5:32 pm : link
just hit a brick wall. They get nowhere near the QB.
Dak  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:32 pm : link
has way too much time to throw.
Even when Hamilton makes a tackle...  
nzyme : 9/8/2019 5:33 pm : link
He doesn't wrap up at all! Who in the hell is coaching him!!!!
Barkley  
LeftHook : 9/8/2019 5:33 pm : link
def getting a big time breather, lol
mistakes  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 5:33 pm : link
damn
The rarest thing in all of football:  
santacruzom : 9/8/2019 5:33 pm : link
A Hamilton tackle.
Defense  
MyDogsNameIsEliToo : 9/8/2019 5:33 pm : link
is absolutely irrelevant.
Same shit  
Beer Man : 9/8/2019 5:33 pm : link
new year
RE: Barkley  
markky : 9/8/2019 5:33 pm : link
In comment 14564530 LeftHook said:
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def getting a big time breather, lol



Defense is giving the offense a break
Just keep hitting  
igotyourbackman : 9/8/2019 5:33 pm : link
Dak
Jones wasting away on the bench  
Ned In Atlanta : 9/8/2019 5:33 pm : link
With this four win team pretending to contend is a joke
We can't even get  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 5:33 pm : link
to him when we jump offsides.
RE: Barkley  
santacruzom : 9/8/2019 5:33 pm : link
In comment 14564530 LeftHook said:
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def getting a big time breather, lol


He gets long breathers when we have the ball too!
Haven't heard Carter's name  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/8/2019 5:33 pm : link
.
This game is done  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 5:34 pm : link
.
They have twice the TOP then us......  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:34 pm : link
Defense can’t get off field!
I don't know how people watch this shit sober.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2019 5:34 pm : link
Cracking open another brew.
Same shit with this DC  
Rflairr : 9/8/2019 5:34 pm : link
He had a rep for blitzing. He comes here and he’s soft
What an epic drive!  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:34 pm : link
.
RE: Haven't heard Carter's name  
Beer Man : 9/8/2019 5:35 pm : link
In comment 14564540 Waldo Jeffers said:
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He was just hit in the back of the helmet with one of Dak's passes
Not sure if BBI will have the "whipping boy" award this year  
GiantsUA : 9/8/2019 5:35 pm : link
but I know who the first half winner is.
RE: I don't know how people watch this shit sober.  
Mike from SI : 9/8/2019 5:35 pm : link
In comment 14564543 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Cracking open another brew.


I tried for a little while. This is pretty much what I expected, though.
RE: Jones wasting away on the bench  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 5:35 pm : link
In comment 14564537 Ned In Atlanta said:
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With this four win team pretending to contend is a joke


Ned..I really don't know how playing Jones will change what we are seeing here on defense.
The  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:35 pm : link
problem is that our pass rushers are mostly bull rushers.
The bright side is  
illmatic : 9/8/2019 5:35 pm : link
they'll only be down by 14 at halftime. With the way Dallas is moving the ball, it could have easily been a 21+ deficit.
RE: Same shit with this DC  
markky : 9/8/2019 5:35 pm : link
In comment 14564545 Rflairr said:
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He had a rep for blitzing. He comes here and he’s soft


we might as well stunt and blitz because playing straight up D is never going to work with these guys.
Every throw is to whomever Hamilton is covering  
nyjuggernaut2 : 9/8/2019 5:35 pm : link
.
RE: RE: Barkley  
LeftHook : 9/8/2019 5:35 pm : link
In comment 14564539 santacruzom said:
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In comment 14564530 LeftHook said:


Quote:


def getting a big time breather, lol



He gets long breathers when we have the ball too!
lol i noticed that, lol
This is going about as expected so far  
mfsd : 9/8/2019 5:35 pm : link
offense showing signs, but our defense just isn’t good enough
RE: Same shit with this DC  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 5:35 pm : link
In comment 14564545 Rflairr said:
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He had a rep for blitzing. He comes here and he’s soft

He has nobody worth a shit to blitz. Bunch of dogs.
Pretty much what I expected  
justafan : 9/8/2019 5:35 pm : link
got a little dick tease in the opening minutes, but I suspected this Defense would suck. Our only stop has been due to a Dallas mistake. We whiffed bad on a would-be stop on third down. I imagine Dallas will score here. Maybe Eli can engineer a two-minute drive to answer.
How do you put  
bigblue18 : 9/8/2019 5:35 pm : link
a team together without one pass rusher. How is that possible
Defense  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 9/8/2019 5:35 pm : link
is non existent.
RE: Same shit with this DC  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 5:36 pm : link
In comment 14564545 Rflairr said:
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He had a rep for blitzing. He comes here and he’s soft


You can't blame him for this mess. No pass rushers against a team with a strong OL.
RE: The bright side is  
markky : 9/8/2019 5:36 pm : link
In comment 14564552 illmatic said:
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they'll only be down by 14 at halftime. With the way Dallas is moving the ball, it could have easily been a 21+ deficit.


Dallas might as well start running out the clock.
RE: Jones wasting away on the bench  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 5:36 pm : link
In comment 14564537 Ned In Atlanta said:
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With this four win team pretending to contend is a joke


Wasting away?? For two quarters?

Fucking asswipes out in full force.
Dallas is legit good  
Oscar : 9/8/2019 5:36 pm : link
Could definitely win the NFC. Giants are not on that level, just trying to hang on in this one.
RE: Haven't heard Carter's name  
santacruzom : 9/8/2019 5:36 pm : link
In comment 14564540 Waldo Jeffers said:
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I hope he evolves and turns into a great player and but let's remember, he was a third round pick and they don't tend to just turn into studs for us these days.
Hamilton  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 5:36 pm : link
didnt play on D last year.What did he do and when to get any playing time this year?
This coaching staff iis awful  
prdave73 : 9/8/2019 5:36 pm : link
For letting a player like Hamilton on the field?! This is BS!
This team is two years away from contending  
Ned In Atlanta : 9/8/2019 5:36 pm : link
People who thought otherwise are delusional
RE: Same shit with this DC  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 5:36 pm : link
In comment 14564545 Rflairr said:
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He had a rep for blitzing. He comes here and he’s soft


He also had Chandler Jones. A stud pass rusher.
The defense hasn't really stopped them one time  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 5:36 pm : link
The first drive the COwboys screwed themselves.
Really bad mistakes  
Blue Ninja : 9/8/2019 5:36 pm : link
keeping drives alive.
RE: RE: Same shit with this DC  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:36 pm : link
In comment 14564557 rebel yell said:
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In comment 14564545 Rflairr said:


Quote:


He had a rep for blitzing. He comes here and he’s soft


He has nobody worth a shit to blitz. Bunch of dogs.


Connelly has gotten home twice. Missed Dak once, forced the hold on another.
Just send everyone  
Essex : 9/8/2019 5:36 pm : link
what’s the point of sitting back and dying a death by 1000 cuts. Just shake it up
We all knew it would take this Defense time to gel,  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:36 pm : link
however, no pass rush and poor coverage = TOP advantage for other team and unless we can get some turnovers, I’d say this game will be over by the 3rd Quarter.
RE: The  
Johnny5 : 9/8/2019 5:36 pm : link
Fixed it.

In comment 14564551 AcidTest said:
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problem is that our pass rushers count 10 Missipis'
Tough to defend  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 5:36 pm : link
when th QB is basically a RB with an arm
they have a lot of weapons
blitzes arent working yet
Make halftime adjustments  
igotyourbackman : 9/8/2019 5:37 pm : link
That will help
RE: Jones wasting away on the bench  
Beer Man : 9/8/2019 5:37 pm : link
In comment 14564537 Ned In Atlanta said:
Quote:
With this four win team pretending to contend is a joke
Why, can he rush the passer? Is there something we don't know?
In Gettleman we trust...  
Gmen703 : 9/8/2019 5:37 pm : link
?
Dallas  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:37 pm : link
is now controlling the LOS. Time of possession is more than two to one in their favor.
Our best play  
Thegratefulhead : 9/8/2019 5:37 pm : link
Is hand ball to Barkley. We don't do this. This upsets me. I may snap.
RE: How do you put  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 5:37 pm : link
In comment 14564559 bigblue18 said:
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a team together without one pass rusher. How is that possible


There are a lot of quick plays here which is making it even worse.
RE: How do you put  
justafan : 9/8/2019 5:37 pm : link
In comment 14564559 bigblue18 said:
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a team together without one pass rusher. How is that possible


Not enough resources. Let's be honest it was Jones or Allen. They went with the QB. No enough resources.
RE: RE: Jones wasting away on the bench  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 5:37 pm : link
In comment 14564550 EricJ said:
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In comment 14564537 Ned In Atlanta said:


Quote:


With this four win team pretending to contend is a joke



Ned..I really don't know how playing Jones will change what we are seeing here on defense.


Not saying now, but if we are going to lose and with this defense it sure seems like we are going to lose a lot, it makes a lot more sense to lose with jobes gaining experience then eli
It's the first game but  
Tom from LI : 9/8/2019 5:37 pm : link
This defense can't get off the field. I am always the optomist... But this is hard to watch
how come our O only has 7  
xman : 9/8/2019 5:38 pm : link
no time for Eli? Dropped balls? what
Tae Davis is having a decent gsme  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:38 pm : link
Rather see Davis and Connelly. Ogletree is a notch above trash
...  
Toth029 : 9/8/2019 5:38 pm : link
Love the OL with his arms around Carter's body.
Hopefully all this talent I keep hearing we’ve drafted  
UberAlias : 9/8/2019 5:38 pm : link
Steps up.
18 minutes TOP  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 5:38 pm : link
To 9 minutes.

Hamilton  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:38 pm : link
is hurt Hope he's OK.
Saw a hold in middle that wasn’t called either!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:38 pm : link
. FG here would be a win!
how come our O only has 7  
xman : 9/8/2019 5:38 pm : link
no time for Eli? Dropped balls? what
Is it bad that part of me was kind of happy seeing Hamilton on the  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:38 pm : link
ground?
Did Witten just take out our worst DB?  
RobCarpenter : 9/8/2019 5:38 pm : link
.
Hamilton hurt  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:39 pm : link
.
Hate to be a dick.  
Beezer : 9/8/2019 5:39 pm : link
But if Hamilton is out?

Got a shot!
Hamilton  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 5:39 pm : link
finally took somebody down. LOL
I'm ashamed by it, but I don't want to see this guy play  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:39 pm : link
on this team. He's fucking terrible.
Get Ballantine  
David B. : 9/8/2019 5:39 pm : link
In there. PLEASE.
RE: ...  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:39 pm : link
In comment 14564589 Toth029 said:
Quote:
Love the OL with his arms around Carter's body.


Saw that too, unfortunately the refs ignored it
This is what all the non-Pollyanna fans thought would happen.  
Mike from SI : 9/8/2019 5:39 pm : link
This defense fucking blows. Offense will look good for stretches.
Our offense needs to light up the scoreboard to win games and I  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/8/2019 5:39 pm : link
They should, that is where all the investment is. Eli needs to play better for us to have a chance. Right now its like saquon is all we have
poor guy has to get injured for them  
bigblue18 : 9/8/2019 5:39 pm : link
to get the right guy onto the field
Daniel jones starts season  
jmalls23 : 9/8/2019 5:39 pm : link
Cut Eli and spend 25mm in defense
Hamilton  
Marty866b : 9/8/2019 5:39 pm : link
Wasn't he kept because of specials? Never expected to see him on the defense. Baker hurt(Don't know if he can play anyway). Why not Ballantine? At least he will tackle.
Hamilton takes Witten out of the game  
Rjanyg : 9/8/2019 5:39 pm : link
By tying his shot laces with his own. Genius.
RE: Tae Davis is having a decent gsme  
santacruzom : 9/8/2019 5:39 pm : link
In comment 14564588 j_rud said:
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Rather see Davis and Connelly. Ogletree is a notch above trash


Expensive trash! We may just extend him if we're not careful.
Did Hamilton play this preseason  
SteelGiant : 9/8/2019 5:40 pm : link
Seriously, I don't remember any of his plays and I feel like he could have used the reps.
RE: how come our O only has 7  
mittenedman : 9/8/2019 5:40 pm : link
In comment 14564594 xman said:
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no time for Eli? Dropped balls? what


They’ve had 2 possessions. This happens every time we play DAL which is part of the reason we never beat them.
RE: how come our O only has 7  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 5:40 pm : link
In comment 14564594 xman said:
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no time for Eli? Dropped balls? what


Missed calls, shurmur not using Saquon, eli checkdown, and a defense that has no answers for Dak
RE: Daniel jones starts season  
Mr. Bungle : 9/8/2019 5:40 pm : link
In comment 14564606 jmalls23 said:
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Cut Eli and spend 25mm in defense

Cut Eli?
Getting above last yrs win total  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:40 pm : link
Is going to take a lot and a challenge
Can we just put Ballentine in the game and  
Ben in Tampa : 9/8/2019 5:40 pm : link
See how it goes?
The offense has had the ball how many times, 3?  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 5:40 pm : link
They scored a TD, drove into Dallas territory but got screwed/mess up, and got stopped
2nd half  
igotyourbackman : 9/8/2019 5:40 pm : link
Is an all new ballgame. Just hold em here to a fg or nothing
RE: Did Hamilton play this preseason  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/8/2019 5:41 pm : link
In comment 14564610 SteelGiant said:
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Seriously, I don't remember any of his plays and I feel like he could have used the reps.


They are pretty much running everything at him. He’s been horrendous
RE: RE: RE: Jones wasting away on the bench  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 5:41 pm : link
In comment 14564585 Giantfan21 said:
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In comment 14564550 EricJ said:


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In comment 14564537 Ned In Atlanta said:


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With this four win team pretending to contend is a joke



Ned..I really don't know how playing Jones will change what we are seeing here on defense.



Not saying now, but if we are going to lose and with this defense it sure seems like we are going to lose a lot, it makes a lot more sense to lose with jobes gaining experience then eli


Jones will play if...
1. Eli is hurt
2. The season is lost

...and quite honestly, that is the right decision.

At 4:15 today, nobody here was thinking the defense was going to play this poorly today. Not even Shurmur.
On defense  
NYFootballGiants : 9/8/2019 5:41 pm : link
were lucky they aren't throwing deep every play. They would have 42 points by now. It seems like they complete it EVERY SINGLE TIME. On offense, our first rush lst rush goes for 60 yards and we want to throw the ball exclusively now. We WON'T run the ball. And Shurmer was pissed about them picking up a flag. He blew it on third and 1 anyway with a STUPID play call. We better make some serious adjustments at half time.
RE: Our best play  
family progtitioner : 9/8/2019 5:41 pm : link
In comment 14564582 Thegratefulhead said:
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Is hand ball to Barkley. We don't do this. This upsets me. I may snap.


What's the point in wearing him out on this mediocre team?
Deandre "I only gave up one TD in college" Baker  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 5:41 pm : link
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I’m ready to throw up!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:41 pm : link
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Hamilton  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:41 pm : link
and Witten had their laces get tangled. Glad no one is hurt.

Beautiful throw by Prescott. They went right after Baker.
Just embarrassing.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2019 5:41 pm : link
...
I know he's a rookie but Baker looking totally overmatched this game  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:41 pm : link
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The announcing is absurd  
KeoweeFan : 9/8/2019 5:41 pm : link
The audience for this game is more than the Great Dallas metro area.
Eli watching Dak throw downfield...  
nzyme : 9/8/2019 5:41 pm : link
"I wish I could do that"....
Baker  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 5:42 pm : link
getting beaten like a drum
DeAndre Baker  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 5:42 pm : link
NFL is far above the SEC. Hopefully he forgets it and learns
Dallas easy peasy td  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:42 pm : link
Impressive vs a lame team
RE: Deandre  
Beer Man : 9/8/2019 5:42 pm : link
In comment 14564622 Anakim said:
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Welcome to the NFL, which means "Not for Long" if you can't cover better than that.
No pass rush  
GiantsRage2007 : 9/8/2019 5:42 pm : link
And rookies galore in the secondary.

It’s gonna be a long season.
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 5:42 pm : link
Giants are a year or so away. They need more talent. They are just in a different place on the pendulum than the Cowboys.
He had no time and Amari had 5 yards on Baker  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 5:42 pm : link
I may have completed that
Baker can't cover Cooper  
bluepepper : 9/8/2019 5:42 pm : link
but probably too much of to ask of a rookie. Jenkins should be shadowing him.
RE: RE: Our best play  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:42 pm : link
In comment 14564621 family progtitioner said:
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In comment 14564582 Thegratefulhead said:


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Is hand ball to Barkley. We don't do this. This upsets me. I may snap.



What's the point in wearing him out on this mediocre team?


Might be true, but that's not Shurmur's thinking he actually wants to win this game.
RE: Deandre  
illmatic : 9/8/2019 5:42 pm : link
In comment 14564622 Anakim said:
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Pfft. Only took him two quarters to smash that puny record.
Pathetic  
jeff57 : 9/8/2019 5:42 pm : link
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Time for a bunch of  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 5:42 pm : link
offensive dump off screen passes that'll get us to about our own 30 before halftime.
Just look at the decisiveness on every play.  
GiantFanInTX : 9/8/2019 5:42 pm : link
Dak knows where to go with the ball immediately.
defense is putrid  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 5:42 pm : link
DG on the clock for putting this product on the field
Welp now we know why they had Hamilton in  
larryflower37 : 9/8/2019 5:42 pm : link
Baker beat on 2 deep throws on the sideline
Deandre Baker learning on the job  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 5:42 pm : link
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perfect throw.Cooper flat beat him  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 5:43 pm : link
Fuck we need to answer with a TD
This is starting to look like Blowout!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:43 pm : link
.
Baker does not seem fast enough  
SteelGiant : 9/8/2019 5:43 pm : link
And that is very concerning.
Long Year Ahead  
Rong5611 : 9/8/2019 5:43 pm : link
Oh my. D is bad.
RE: RE: Deandre  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 9/8/2019 5:43 pm : link
In comment 14564632 Beer Man said:
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In comment 14564622 Anakim said:


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Welcome to the NFL, which means "Not for Long" if you can't cover better than that.


Cool cliche
Cowboys over 300!!! Yds this half!  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:43 pm : link
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Dak Dimes  
RenierWolfcastle : 9/8/2019 5:43 pm : link
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Pass rush nothing to write home about either...  
nzyme : 9/8/2019 5:43 pm : link
Unless you guys think Dak is getting rid of too quickly? Maybe it's just me...
Don't hear a lot of BBI Dak  
M.S. : 9/8/2019 5:43 pm : link
Bashers right about now.
All that talent we talk about from drafts  
UberAlias : 9/8/2019 5:43 pm : link
Not impressing thus far.
I really wanted a season that had promise  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2019 5:43 pm : link
Come Columbus Day. Again, too optimistic.
RE: Just look at the decisiveness on every play.  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 5:43 pm : link
In comment 14564641 GiantFanInTX said:
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Dak knows where to go with the ball immediately.


one on one with a rookie corner because we can't generate any pass rush is on the general manager.
RE: Tae Davis is having a decent gsme  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 5:44 pm : link
In comment 14564588 j_rud said:
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Rather see Davis and Connelly. Ogletree is a notch above trash


Very expensive trash. Everyone's running around high fiving each other for Gettleman's moves but so far they really don't look very encouraging. And this is another year removed from Reese and Ross.
They are  
beatrixkiddo : 9/8/2019 5:44 pm : link
blitzing the safeties like crazy and getting zero pressure.

They should just keep throwing over the top as there is no safety help.
4 and 12......  
thrunthrublue : 9/8/2019 5:44 pm : link
If all the cards fall in place, fire oc/dc/hc.....hire the oc from LSU.
Jebus but Jerry Jones looks like a gargoyle  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/8/2019 5:44 pm : link
Not a good looking gargoyle either

BTW, really, really hate making Dak look like Joe Montana
Seems like Ballentine  
Beer Man : 9/8/2019 5:44 pm : link
played better than some of these DBs in the preseason
Most  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:44 pm : link
of the defensive problems are because of a lack of pass rush. That's our most pressing need in the offseason.
Kurt Menafee looks like a trash can with a head.  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:44 pm : link
He's perfectly round. It's beautiful.
lets get a couple more dump passes...  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 5:44 pm : link
to help eli's completion pct
I can’t wait to watch the 2nd half  
GiantsRage2007 : 9/8/2019 5:44 pm : link
Down 14 points and throwing 5 yard passes.
Daniel Jones by Halloween.  
Mr. Bungle : 9/8/2019 5:45 pm : link
I've thought this all through August, and nothing is changing my mind now.

This team will be out of it soon enough.
lets  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 5:45 pm : link
GO!!!!!
RE: Baker does not seem fast enough  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:45 pm : link
In comment 14564647 SteelGiant said:
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And that is very concerning.


He hesitated a little and it was enough for Cooper. I think Baker will be fine given experience.
They are going to suck  
santacruzom : 9/8/2019 5:45 pm : link
At managing the clock again.
Falling Apart  
Rudy5757 : 9/8/2019 5:45 pm : link
Not looking good. D just cant make plays. O is not getting the ball to SB enough. Eli missing open targets.
On the bright side, the expected quarterback controversy may  
SB 42 and 46 and ? : 9/8/2019 5:45 pm : link
not emerge this season, as the quarterback will not be on the field long enough to have his play evaluated.
RE: Jebus but Jerry Jones looks like a gargoyle  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 5:45 pm : link
In comment 14564662 Waldo Jeffers said:
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Not a good looking gargoyle either

BTW, really, really hate making Dak look like Joe Montana

And that's after he's had a bunch pf work done to his face in Mexico.
It’s game 1  
Jim in Forest Hills : 9/8/2019 5:45 pm : link
The D will get better
Over 300 yards in a half  
Hammer : 9/8/2019 5:45 pm : link
Geez
Can we actually take shots down the field  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2019 5:46 pm : link
?
Jones should play if we are down by 3 TDs in the second half.  
Jim in Hoboken : 9/8/2019 5:46 pm : link
Otherwise this year will just be like the last few.
.  
KevinBBWC : 9/8/2019 5:46 pm : link
Dan Salomone
@NYGsalomone
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41s
Injury update: S Jabrill Peppers (cramp) will return.
Listen we're getting torched  
Stu11 : 9/8/2019 5:46 pm : link
But Dak is on fire. Yea there have been open guys but even when there's not much separation he's dropping them in there perfectly. I know people like to bash him but when he's on he's in.
RE: Dak Dimes  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14564651 RenierWolfcastle said:
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Well said.
RE: RE: Tae Davis is having a decent gsme  
McNally's_Nuts : 9/8/2019 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14564658 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14564588 j_rud said:


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Rather see Davis and Connelly. Ogletree is a notch above trash



Very expensive trash. Everyone's running around high fiving each other for Gettleman's moves but so far they really don't look very encouraging. And this is another year removed from Reese and Ross.


I recall people last year not liking that trade as it seemed Ogletree wasn’t a fit for a 3-4 defense
RE: Most  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14564664 AcidTest said:
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of the defensive problems are because of a lack of pass rush. That's our most pressing need in the offseason.


This ^
I could live with the dump offs  
Essex : 9/8/2019 5:46 pm : link
for the first few plays, but what was the point of the last play on 2nd and 1. We don’t need a first down we need yards
The old Eli would find a way to score right before the half  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/8/2019 5:46 pm : link
lets see what happens
One more throw and then a spike  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 5:46 pm : link
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We’ll always have the undefeated preseason  
UberAlias : 9/8/2019 5:46 pm : link
No one can take that away from us.
RE: I really wanted a season that had promise  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14564655 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Come Columbus Day. Again, too optimistic.


It'll be done by end of month lol
RE: No pass rush  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14564633 GiantsRage2007 said:
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And rookies galore in the secondary.

It’s gonna be a long season.


Quite possibly.
Eli doesn't throw anything beyond 5 yards anymore  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:47 pm : link
Is it him or Shurmur?
Take a shot  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 5:47 pm : link
hope for a flag
RE: It’s game 1  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 5:47 pm : link
In comment 14564675 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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The D will get better


you actually believe that? even if thats the casewe will play significantly better offenses
Everyone wants positivity in september  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 5:47 pm : link
But deep down I think most people knew this was coming.
And nothings really changes  
McNally's_Nuts : 9/8/2019 5:47 pm : link
he’s a very underwhelming player
RE: We’ll always have the undefeated preseason  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:47 pm : link
In comment 14564687 UberAlias said:
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No one can take that away from us.


Lol
RE: Eli doesn't throw anything beyond 5 yards anymore  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 5:48 pm : link
In comment 14564690 BestFeature said:
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Is it him or Shurmur?


its maddening and needs to stop
They end of this half  
Essex : 9/8/2019 5:48 pm : link
had been horribly mismanaged
I am not going to get upset about this game..  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 5:48 pm : link
because...
1. We always look like shit in week 1
2. I had this down on the calendar as a loss anyway.
RE: Eli doesn't throw anything beyond 5 yards anymore  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 5:48 pm : link
In comment 14564690 BestFeature said:
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Is it him or Shurmur?


Probably Eli
RE: Eli doesn't throw anything beyond 5 yards anymore  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:48 pm : link
In comment 14564690 BestFeature said:
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Is it him or Shurmur?


Can’t set up for a long ball. Dallas coming now
I want to believe we've come a long way  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:48 pm : link
from Uani Unga and the like...yet here we are, 300 yes and 21 points in a half. Just gotta hope these young guys in the secondary develop, and go get some pass rushers.
Just make it competitive  
UberAlias : 9/8/2019 5:48 pm : link
In 2nd half.
Go for a long FG  
Rudy5757 : 9/8/2019 5:48 pm : link
do something
Where's Nicks when you need him?  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 5:48 pm : link
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RE: They end of this half  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 5:49 pm : link
In comment 14564697 Essex said:
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had been horribly mismanaged


Shit drive. 1:13 seconds, 2 to and only 25 yes of offense
Christ it takes TIME  
Dave on the UWS : 9/8/2019 5:49 pm : link
for young talent to develop. I’m no less pissed than anyone else here. The Cowboys “May” be the best team in the NFC vs a bunch of guys playing their first NFL game. What could be expected?
And I was trashing the Dolphins  
beatrixkiddo : 9/8/2019 5:49 pm : link
for 21 points in the 1st quarter. We aren't much better I guess. Gott to hope its mostly due to having a young secondary w/ no chemistry.
Theres that Eli look  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:49 pm : link
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We all knew  
greek13 : 9/8/2019 5:49 pm : link
The edge and pass rush would be weak - we traded our best guy from last
Year - but never replaced him. If we knew - you think the rest of the nfl noticed? It is against the best OL - so I’ll wait a bit before I jump - but our biggest need is showing itself early
D is tough to watch for any Giant fan  
Eman11 : 9/8/2019 5:49 pm : link
What was once our only thing to watch is now our weakest link. Sickening.
DG not looking to good right now..  
prdave73 : 9/8/2019 5:49 pm : link
This defense he put together so far is whack. Hope he didn’t screw up on those 2 defensive draft picks..
RE: I want to believe we've come a long way  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 5:49 pm : link
In comment 14564701 j_rud said:
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from Uani Unga and the like...yet here we are, 300 yes and 21 points in a half. Just gotta hope these young guys in the secondary develop, and go get some pass rushers.


Some pass rushers, a linebacker, a safety, a WR, a center...
NFC East  
Gruber : 9/8/2019 5:50 pm : link
Pretty obvious that the NFC East is between the Cowboys and the Eagles. Bit concerned that the Redskins got closer to the Eagles than we are managing against Dallas. We talk about Washington being dysfunctional. What does that make us?

So ends a garbage half  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 5:50 pm : link
We get the ball
I think Rosas has a shot at this  
Blue Ninja : 9/8/2019 5:50 pm : link
I would take it.
Alright. 21 7 at halftime. We get ball to start second  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2019 5:50 pm : link
Half. Score 7. Make a stop, 21 14...

Who am I kidding?

(Beer me wife.)
First pass beyond 5 yards in the first half is a hail mary  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:50 pm : link
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its one half of football  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 5:50 pm : link
we flashed Barkley and little else. That is exactly what I was expecting to see.
Good start to the half  
Rudy5757 : 9/8/2019 5:51 pm : link
ugly finish
Does Shurmur not know the rules or wants to prove a point?  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 5:51 pm : link
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Challenging what?  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 5:51 pm : link
Talk about opening a can of worms. This challenge of a PI is going to suck
Great opening drive.  
Mr. Bungle : 9/8/2019 5:51 pm : link
Garbage since.
Certainly looked like PI to me!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:51 pm : link
Shurmur was probably right
Shurmur's gonna fight someone.  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 5:51 pm : link
Wish the D had that much starch in their trousers.
We are supposed to have this great new OL  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 5:51 pm : link
Trust them to give Eli time, throw deeper.

Also why are we not running Barkley
Awful posession  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 5:51 pm : link
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Shurmur  
MookGiants : 9/8/2019 5:51 pm : link
is a total clown. Definition of loser as a head coach
How are some of you blaming shurmur for eli not throwing the ball  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 5:51 pm : link
down the field, when jones was throwing darts down the field all preseason ? it's obvious he cant throw the ball down the field anymore and that is why everything is within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage
RE: First pass beyond 5 yards in the first half is a hail mary  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 5:51 pm : link
In comment 14564717 BestFeature said:
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At least it shows that Eli can throw over 50 yds, for those who believe he cant
Schurmer is lost  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:51 pm : link
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BS that can't get reviewed  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 5:52 pm : link
The defender had his fingers in the facemask pulling his head back
I mean, why not?  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 5:52 pm : link
Trot out your Pro Bowl PK and tell him to kick the snot out of it.
RE: Great opening drive.  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 5:52 pm : link
In comment 14564722 Mr. Bungle said:
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Garbage since.


only 5 carries for barkley is a damn disgrace
Receiver has his facemask grabbed.  
Beezer : 9/8/2019 5:52 pm : link
And he’s yanked to the ground in the end zone.

Eh. No biggie.

Halftime.
Lol this offense looks like crap too..  
prdave73 : 9/8/2019 5:52 pm : link
Typical Shurmur.. Giants can’t get it right on HC.. smh
RE: NFC East  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 5:52 pm : link
In comment 14564713 Gruber said:
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Pretty obvious that the NFC East is between the Cowboys and the Eagles. Bit concerned that the Redskins got closer to the Eagles than we are managing against Dallas. We talk about Washington being dysfunctional. What does that make us?


Don't kid yourself, Philly was sleepwalking in the first half of that game, the Redskins are awful.
The fact that we didn’t get into position to attempt  
GiantsRage2007 : 9/8/2019 5:52 pm : link
A fg just speaks to the shit show we are right now. Between the shitty play calling or shitty qb play I’m not sure whose fault it is but it’s maddening.
This is a rough start to the season..  
Sean : 9/8/2019 5:52 pm : link
On the road against an NFC favorite with a young defense. I hope they compete in the 2nd half.
Eli not good in that  
xman : 9/8/2019 5:52 pm : link
last drive. Another wasted position as per usual. Can't win games giving away precious possessions
RE: Certainly looked like PI to me!  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 5:52 pm : link
In comment 14564723 Simms11 said:
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Shurmur was probably right

They never call PI on those Hail Marys. Especially not going to give it to a team who is getting the shit beat out of them.
Shurmur needs to get his head out of his ass  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 5:52 pm : link
And stop yelling at refs. Do your job.
RE: Theres that Eli look  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 5:52 pm : link
In comment 14564708 micky said:
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And there's a typical micky shit post
RE: Certainly looked like PI to me!  
justafan : 9/8/2019 5:52 pm : link
In comment 14564723 Simms11 said:
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Shurmur was probably right


Don't be a homer, where was the PI? All the Dallas defenders were turned towards the ball and making a play on it. Our midget WR was somewhere at their ankles.
My question regarding the offensive is  
DonnieD89 : 9/8/2019 5:53 pm : link
Why is the ball not in Barkley’s hands more often?
RE: We are supposed to have this great new OL  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 5:53 pm : link
In comment 14564725 PatersonPlank said:
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Trust them to give Eli time, throw deeper.

Also why are we not running Barkley


We didnt use him enough when we had the ball. Shurmur kept calling pass plays. Also why not split him wide on that last drive
Shitty half but that was expected  
Oscar : 9/8/2019 5:53 pm : link
Just hope it doesn’t take them half the season to get DJ going. The Eli Manning era has been over for a while, unfortunately the only people who don’t know it make decisions for the Giants.
Defense is a big bag of WTF......  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 5:53 pm : link
Definitely not good, but tons of misdirection and zero pass rush against an inexperienced secondary.
RE: RE: First pass beyond 5 yards in the first half is a hail mary  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 5:53 pm : link
In comment 14564729 Nine-Tails said:
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In comment 14564717 BestFeature said:


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At least it shows that Eli can throw over 50 yds, for those who believe he cant


Can he throw it accurately down the field though ? thats the big question
Latimer has his facemask yanked.  
Beezer : 9/8/2019 5:53 pm : link

Ahhhh. We’re in Dallas. No penalty. Halftime!!!
Sad to say but it is painfully obvious  
Chris L. : 9/8/2019 5:53 pm : link
Eli is no longer athletic enough to play the position. He just can't make plays anymore. It takes too long for him to set up and there is not enough arm strength to push the ball down the field. The transition to Jones will occur faster than most think.
Eli is going to have to do better if he wants to keep his job  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/8/2019 5:53 pm : link
Run game has been good and protection has been solid. Where are the points?
RE: RE: Theres that Eli look  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:53 pm : link
In comment 14564742 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14564708 micky said:


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And there's a typical micky shit post


And theres the fat fuck
Shurmer not knowing the rules  
thrunthrublue : 9/8/2019 5:53 pm : link
Adds to the decidedly growing realization that he is a losing, loser head coach, just look at his record......no winning seasons as a head nfl coach and in the process of adding another losing season to his record, sad.😔
No  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 5:53 pm : link
pass rush. Eli's lack of mobility has also been a problem.
The OL looks good  
Jim in Forest Hills : 9/8/2019 5:54 pm : link
So many young players on d, it will take time for them to develop.
At a point I was questioning whether the refs or defense were worse  
jgambrosio : 9/8/2019 5:54 pm : link
but easily the defense. Can't say the officiating is good though either. Definitely a Dallas crew.
Last "Drive"  
Jeffrey : 9/8/2019 5:54 pm : link
Is it Shurmur or Eli? I cannot believe how much time was wasted and then to fall 5 yards short of a shot at a FG.It is so incredibly stupid and it just seems hard to believe that it is Eli after watching him engineer last minute drives for years. But the current version of Eli is all about 5-7 yard passes--no matter all the hype from the Giants organization.
Our defense sucks, Dak is picking it apart  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 5:54 pm : link
20-26, 256 yds 3 TDs in one half! Embarrasing
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 5:54 pm : link
Shurmur likes the scene in a movie where the dude loses his girlfriend and starts drinking too much.

He needs Vince Vaughn to come by with some Cheetos and some plays to the wide receivers.
If the Giants can't get anyone off the field  
BigBlueBuff : 9/8/2019 5:54 pm : link
then it doesn't matter who is playing quarterback or whether Saquon ever sees the ball. This defense is just awful.
If its 35-7  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 5:54 pm : link
By the end of the third quarter. Would Jones be put in?
RE: RE: Theres that Eli look  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:54 pm : link
In comment 14564742 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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It's not like we could challenge either  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 5:54 pm : link
We had no timeouts...
RE: RE: RE: Theres that Eli look  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 5:55 pm : link
In comment 14564764 micky said:
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Mods, I think you know what to do. Get this asshole out of here.
RE: Eli not good in that  
Dutch77 : 9/8/2019 5:55 pm : link
In comment 14564739 xman said:
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last drive. Another wasted position as per usual. Can't win games giving away precious possessions

We knew the defense would bad this year but I’m sick of all the Eli excuses. If your QB can only average 1td per game you don’t have a chance either way.
RE: RE: Eli doesn't throw anything beyond 5 yards anymore  
HomerJones45 : 9/8/2019 5:55 pm : link
In comment 14564700 Simms11 said:
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Is it him or Shurmur?



Can’t set up for a long ball. Dallas coming now
to whom do you want him to throw it. The wideouts are terrible. You’ve got Barkley and Engram. At the end of the half, the Cowboys put Jones, their best defender, on Engram. The rest of the wideouts are no trouble.
Our HC trying to challenge a play inside of 2 minutes  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 5:55 pm : link
doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

And I hope Peppers cramps have been affecting his game otherwise that looks like another move that was a mistake.
wow  
GiantEgo : 9/8/2019 5:55 pm : link
After one of the Giants worst defensive halls in their history most of the post complain about Eli. Only on BBI!
Hamilton just sucks  
Breeze_94 : 9/8/2019 5:55 pm : link
Baker getting toasted as well (did at least take great throws to beat him though)

pass rush is non-existent

Game turned on that timeout that was granted when Dallas lined up with 12 guys on 3rd and 1.

This team is not built to play from behind. They NEED to score a TD to start off the 2nd half and hope for a couple of lucky breaks on defense.
RE: RE: RE: Theres that Eli look  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 5:55 pm : link
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The fuck I do.

I see ridiculously stupid shit posted and comment on it.

Your stupid ass seems to post stupid shit.

Frequently.
Be Doody for Jeudy  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 5:56 pm : link
Be Dung for Young
We don't have a guy like Tate  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 5:56 pm : link
who can win downfield .
I don't know what you can expect out of Eli
Dallas has four WR's that can win and
a damn good TE .
Barkley with 5 touches .
Dallas is too fast on defense to dink and dunk .
We have to go back to Barkley and get a TD coming
out of the third or were dead meat .
RE: RE: RE: RE: Theres that Eli look  
micky : 9/8/2019 5:56 pm : link
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The fuck I do.

I see ridiculously stupid shit posted and comment on it.

Your stupid ass seems to post stupid shit.

Frequently.


Lmao whatever you waste
We can blame D and rightfully so, but,  
jvm52106 : 9/8/2019 5:56 pm : link
Eli and that fucking grounding on 3rd and 1 was absolute amateurish.. That killed us and gave Dallas the ball back with a knife to our momentum..
Antonio Hamilton is quite a find  
Vanzetti : 9/8/2019 5:56 pm : link
Gotta give DG credit
"Just spread the ball around  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 5:56 pm : link
They'll be fine. They looked great offensively last year."
RE: Be Doody for Jeudy  
beatrixkiddo : 9/8/2019 5:57 pm : link
In comment 14564774 Anakim said:
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Be Dung for Young


haha, cmon! Already?
Never expected to win  
Marty866b : 9/8/2019 5:57 pm : link
But I was hoping to see some real improvement. Same shit we have seen for a long time here. Three high draft picks on the defensive line and none of them stand out.Very disappointed.
The D Has Put Them Down By 14  
Percy : 9/8/2019 5:57 pm : link
But Eli is a wet rag out there. Underuse of Saquon. Zip to the downfield passing game (not tries even except that hapless Hail Mary). Total wasting away of time between snaps. Unimaginative play calling. Uninspired effort. Who's to blame? Eli does come to mind.
I'm pleased with the effort from these guys.  
GiantFanInTX : 9/8/2019 5:57 pm : link
They are working really hard out there. This is the NFL, however. Effort doesn't win games without the talent behind it. They're grossly outmatched against Dallas. That's the facts. Dallas built their team from inside out and it is why their QB looks better than he is. They have also not ignored the LB position and have 3 pro bowl linebackers to go with an excellent secondary and athletic pass rushers. They are stacked from top to bottom on both sides of the ball. There isn't a single defensive player on the Giants who is an impact player. Not only that, it doesn't matter how good your secondary is, if you can't rush the passer (which we cannot do at all, and haven't in years), you cannot win.
Defense  
King Quis : 9/8/2019 5:57 pm : link
Definitely needs some work but the biggest thing I see is Eli still has poor vision (3 and 1 play he had a back side TE flashing open across the middle) and continues his inept play by refusing to challenge the defensive and push the ball down field.

He may know more than Dimes but what good is the knowledge of you can’t do anything with it.
RE: wow  
KDubbs : 9/8/2019 5:57 pm : link
In comment 14564770 GiantEgo said:
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After one of the Giants worst defensive halls in their history most of the post complain about Eli. Only on BBI!


Our fanbase has seriously surpassed jets fanbase in stupidity
That early timeout comes back to haunt us.  
CT Charlie : 9/8/2019 5:57 pm : link
I still don't understand why Eli seldom takes a 5-yard delay-of-game penalty early in the game rather than burn a timeout that can be used later. The Pats ALWAYS save their timeouts until the end of a half -- even if they don't need them then.

And even with two timeouts at the end, we should have used a stop-the-clock play rather than use the first of the timeouts. We needed to move the ball 15-20 yards, and the Cowboys were willing to give us short/underneath plays. By burning the 2nd timeout too soon, we lost the chance to make a mid-range completion in the middle of the field. We really should have been able to kick a FG -- not that it will matter.
I'd rather they drag out Alexander Hamilton's  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2019 5:57 pm : link
Corpse to play for the second half than see Antonio Hamilton.
When did the Cowboys purchase Fox?  
jgambrosio : 9/8/2019 5:57 pm : link
What was the point of that 15 second montage between commercials?
BTW, anyone notice whenever Antonio Hamilton gives up  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 5:57 pm : link
a catch, he's frustrated? You see him clap his hands in frustration. He did that in the preseason too.


Might explain why he can't pick off a pass. His hands must be raw at this point.
RE: wow  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 5:57 pm : link
In comment 14564770 GiantEgo said:
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After one of the Giants worst defensive halls in their history most of the post complain about Eli. Only on BBI!


I don't think people really care what eli does. But the team and defense isn't good. Jones should be in there developing this year.
Not having the skill to stop an opposing player is one thing, that's  
GiantsUA : 9/8/2019 5:57 pm : link
personnel, guys running free ie Dallas tight ends, that is on the coaching.
another half of football to play  
bc4life : 9/8/2019 5:57 pm : link
Young guys will settle down a bit. this team will get better as year wears on. Dallas was a playoff team last year - Giants were not.
RE: RE: Be Doody for Jeudy  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 5:57 pm : link
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Be Dung for Young



haha, cmon! Already?


'Tis a joke
RE: If the Giants can't get anyone off the field  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 5:58 pm : link
In comment 14564762 BigBlueBuff said:
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then it doesn't matter who is playing quarterback or whether Saquon ever sees the ball. This defense is just awful.


I look at it the opposite. If the defense is awful and we are going to lose anyway, might as well play jones for experience then wasting another year of eli going nowhere
RE: RE: RE: RE: Theres that Eli look  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 5:58 pm : link
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Mods, I think you know what to do. Get this asshole out of here.

I second this
We're clearly outmatched  
Tim in VA : 9/8/2019 5:58 pm : link
Just not enough talent on either side of the ball. Hamilton is terrible, our linebackers suck, no pass rush. Cowboys have so many weapons on O.

In the other side, our receivers are pedestrian at best, o line average. Not a chance.

I'm honestly not sure what I was thinking being hopeful for this game. We don't have the talent to compete with any good teams this year. Put in Daniel Jones if you want, just lipstick on a pig. We're a couple of years away from being competitive.
This defense is sad  
90.Cal : 9/8/2019 5:58 pm : link
DeAndre Baker needs to wake TF up. He is getting abused and Hamilton needs to be cut, he can not make a tackle period
For Eli's sake we should trade him to Jax  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 5:58 pm : link
The Giants are going nowhere, and eventually the QB situation will become a circus.
The Defense is offensive.  
DavidinBMNY : 9/8/2019 5:58 pm : link
They have done nothing. Zip. Baket and Hamilton scaring no one. No pass rush. New safeties blew that TD to the TE.

On the flip side Prescott is playing well.
RE: We can blame D and rightfully so, but,  
justafan : 9/8/2019 5:58 pm : link
In comment 14564777 jvm52106 said:
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Eli and that fucking grounding on 3rd and 1 was absolute amateurish.. That killed us and gave Dallas the ball back with a knife to our momentum..


Shell shocked QB panicked or same ol Eli, whichever it is, I'm inclined to agree. We'd give DJ a pass if that was him being his first start, but not the guy in his 16th season.
It doesn't look good  
phil in arizona : 9/8/2019 5:58 pm : link
Overhauling the D 2 years ago looks questionable now.

O can move the ball but they aren't good enough to win a game on their own. We miss Odell in the 2 minute offense.

Hate to say it, but maybe it's time to move on from Eli.
Hate to admit it  
mrvax : 9/8/2019 5:58 pm : link
but Dak's rainbow pass over Baker's head was a perfect Daniel Jones' throw.
RE: ...  
HomerJones45 : 9/8/2019 5:58 pm : link
In comment 14564761 christian said:
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Shurmur likes the scene in a movie where the dude loses his girlfriend and starts drinking too much.

He needs Vince Vaughn to come by with some Cheetos and some plays to the wide receivers.
the other guys get paid too. That is what the defense will give you and there is no 100+ catch guy to just throw it up to no matter what the defense.
It's not Eli's fault by any means BUT  
90.Cal : 9/8/2019 5:58 pm : link
Just put the kid in...
RE: wow  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 5:58 pm : link
In comment 14564770 GiantEgo said:
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After one of the Giants worst defensive halls in their history most of the post complain about Eli. Only on BBI!


Actually alot of people have criticized or acknowledged the defense shortcomings. It's just that last drive is what ended the half
RE: No  
Toth029 : 9/8/2019 5:58 pm : link
In comment 14564756 AcidTest said:
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pass rush. Eli's lack of mobility has also been a problem.

Dak's mobility hasn't been needed. Looks like all you need is a stud OL.
RE: Be Doody for Jeudy  
markky : 9/8/2019 5:58 pm : link
In comment 14564774 Anakim said:
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Be Dung for Young


i'm laughing out loud at this. oh man.
I'm not really impressed with our DC  
NY-Fan : 9/8/2019 5:58 pm : link
I do realize the defense is young and will need some time but there is just something about his defense I don't like.
RE: This defense is sad  
justafan : 9/8/2019 5:59 pm : link
In comment 14564797 90.Cal said:
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DeAndre Baker needs to wake TF up. He is getting abused and Hamilton needs to be cut, he can not make a tackle period


If you expected Baker to look good in his first game I have a bridge I'd like you to buy. The biggest question is, why is Baker lined up against Cooper?
RE: wow  
Ned In Atlanta : 9/8/2019 5:59 pm : link
In comment 14564770 GiantEgo said:
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After one of the Giants worst defensive halls in their history most of the post complain about Eli. Only on BBI!



It’s not Eli. It’s that the team isn’t good and they spent the 6th overall on a Qb who has looked good. And the owner, FA and some fans have convinced themselves this is a playoff roster which it is most certainly not
Can we all agree  
Mr. Bungle : 9/8/2019 5:59 pm : link
that Buck and Aikman suck?
Michael Thomas is excellent  
Vanzetti : 9/8/2019 5:59 pm : link
Even the harshest critic has to give DG credit for this diamond in the rough
RE:  
christian : 9/8/2019 5:59 pm : link
In comment 14564779 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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They'll be fine. They looked great offensively last year."


But the Giants offense was slinging it in that meaningless week 17 game.
You can't blame guys running open on coaches all the time.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/8/2019 6:00 pm : link
I'm starting to think jabrill peppers is functionally retarded. Him and Gary true Michigan men indeed
RE: RE: wow  
beatrixkiddo : 9/8/2019 6:00 pm : link
In comment 14564790 mphbullet36 said:
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After one of the Giants worst defensive halls in their history most of the post complain about Eli. Only on BBI!



I don't think people really care what eli does. But the team and defense isn't good. Jones should be in there developing this year.


Jones will get time this year no doubt. He still has a lot to work on and learn from the sidelines.
RE: RE: No  
phil in arizona : 9/8/2019 6:00 pm : link
In comment 14564806 Toth029 said:
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pass rush. Eli's lack of mobility has also been a problem.


Dak's mobility hasn't been needed. Looks like all you need is a stud OL.


Dak made a few good plays with his legs. He converted at least 1 3rd down.
They are  
PaulN : 9/8/2019 6:00 pm : link
An embarrassment, and they are now becoming a bad franchise, they are clueless and if they don't see that Shurmur is horrible, that tells you everything, this coach will never be any good, and this kid Hamilton playing as bad as he is yet our first round pick is not in is a fucking disgrace. This has gone beyond bearable anymore. This is a clueless bunch. Horrible defense and the coordinator stinks too.
RE: RE: wow  
mrvax : 9/8/2019 6:00 pm : link
In comment 14564810 Ned In Atlanta said:
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It’s not Eli. It’s that the team isn’t good and they spent the 6th overall on a Qb who has looked good. And the owner, FA and some fans have convinced themselves this is a playoff roster which it is most certainly not


It is a playoff roster. For the other team.
Just have to say it  
Marty866b : 9/8/2019 6:00 pm : link
This is the defense that Gettleman has brought in. Except for Jenkins, these are his guys. Let's not lose sight of this while many here are celebrating his selections of Barkley and Jones.
Defense  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/8/2019 6:01 pm : link
is really poor and the major culprit. Even when they blitz there is no pressure. Offense can't score when Dallas is on these long drives. Is this a Bettcher issue?

Down 14 but they have the ball. Probably need points to make this a game.
RE: Antonio Hamilton is quite a find  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 6:01 pm : link
In comment 14564778 Vanzetti said:
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Gotta give DG credit


Huh, that was totally Reese's fault because reasons.
No way  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 6:01 pm : link
should we be burning Jones by throwing him out there with no one to throw to. We need to develop the hell out of a lot of guys this season and draft well next season.

My number one ask is that we don't burn Jones or Barkley in a season we are not armed to conquer.
This team needs more from the D and QB/Coach  
AcesUp : 9/8/2019 6:01 pm : link
Hard to say which one of the latter is responsible for not pushing the ball down the field but 5.36 YPA ain't gonna cut it. I'm expecting the defense to struggle but the limpdick O is a little disappointing.
RE: They are  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 6:01 pm : link
In comment 14564817 PaulN said:
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An embarrassment, and they are now becoming a bad franchise, they are clueless and if they don't see that Shurmur is horrible, that tells you everything, this coach will never be any good, and this kid Hamilton playing as bad as he is yet our first round pick is not in is a fucking disgrace. This has gone beyond bearable anymore. This is a clueless bunch. Horrible defense and the coordinator stinks too.


Our 1st round pick was beaten on the last TD.
It would be nice if we got a fucking sack  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:01 pm : link
I know it's asking too much, but how about knocking the shit out of Dak?
Baker will learn when your defense is coming  
NY-Fan : 9/8/2019 6:01 pm : link
and you are one on one you need to get physical and jam the receiver. Can't let him run right by you.
Eli cost us minimum 6 points  
jmalls23 : 9/8/2019 6:01 pm : link
Intentional grounding 3. Dinking and dunking 3. He stinks
The 2 and 1 play at midfield was not a good call  
Essex : 9/8/2019 6:01 pm : link
but I guess could be justified by the fact that you didn’t want to go for it there on fourth down with time left on the clock if you don’t conver 2nd and 3rd but the first down play after that timeout was just maybe the most asinine call I have ever seen. To get five yards not in fg position and burn a timeout is literally the dumbest clock management you can have. You have unlimited downs at that point with a timeout to get ten yards and you blow it for five yards and use the To.
RE: RE: This defense is sad  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 6:02 pm : link
In comment 14564809 justafan said:
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DeAndre Baker needs to wake TF up. He is getting abused and Hamilton needs to be cut, he can not make a tackle period



If you expected Baker to look good in his first game I have a bridge I'd like you to buy. The biggest question is, why is Baker lined up against Cooper?

Jackrabbit trailed another WR in motion wtf.
RE: RE: This defense is sad  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 6:02 pm : link
In comment 14564809 justafan said:
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DeAndre Baker needs to wake TF up. He is getting abused and Hamilton needs to be cut, he can not make a tackle period



If you expected Baker to look good in his first game I have a bridge I'd like you to buy. The biggest question is, why is Baker lined up against Cooper?


Bad choice for the game, but for his development, let him learn by playing against good receivers.
The haters are certain  
VinegarPeppers : 9/8/2019 6:02 pm : link
The haters are certain WRs are wide open all over downfield but Eli can’t reach them. That’s as stupid as half a dozen Barkley carries in a half of football.
a big play in this game was the grounding obviously...  
BillKo : 9/8/2019 6:02 pm : link
...but why would the Giants on third and 1, with no one over the center, not elect to just snap and sneak it??? It's right there in front of them...........
We all knew this defense  
Br00klyn : 9/8/2019 6:02 pm : link
Was going to be bad, but it is even worse than we thought. I would be shocked if we win more than 4-5 games this year. Gonna be a long, frustrating season
Some of us who are over 70 around here?  
buster : 9/8/2019 6:02 pm : link
Odds are getting worse by the day that our days of Championship chances are diminishing quickly. Sweet Jesus.. Stop pretending that Manning is still viable...The last play of the half..So sad.. Yep I hope they have cable up in heaven....By then it might be fun watching my team again.. To End: worse than the Manning thing? Our D is providing blankets, wine, and cheese dishes to Prescott...Fucking awful;
Fox5  
kes722 : 9/8/2019 6:03 pm : link
Half time is horrible. Why am I getting news and weather? Tell me more about football! Its painful
RE: I'd rather they drag out Alexander Hamilton's  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 6:03 pm : link
In comment 14564787 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Corpse to play for the second half than see Antonio Hamilton.


How about Conrad Hamilton?
RE: I'd rather they drag out Alexander Hamilton's  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 6:03 pm : link
In comment 14564787 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Corpse to play for the second half than see Antonio Hamilton.

This is pretty funny. Needed a laugh.
The Defense sucks  
Big Rick in FL : 9/8/2019 6:03 pm : link
Which we should have known. They have a bunch of guys who have been in the NFL for less than 35 games. Those guys are getting significant snaps too. Lawrence, Hill, Tomlinson, Davis, Carter, Baker, Jabrill, Connelly & Antonio Hamilton.

Another problem is nobody is scared of Eli. He offers no threat to the defense. He's got 102 passing yards on 13 completions with 19 attempts. (Really 18 minus the Hail Mary) Those are pathetic numbers. Not all on him, but I feel he's had time and doesn't even attempt to make anything other then short passes.
RE: They are  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 9/8/2019 6:03 pm : link
In comment 14564817 PaulN said:
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An embarrassment, and they are now becoming a bad franchise, they are clueless and if they don't see that Shurmur is horrible, that tells you everything, this coach will never be any good, and this kid Hamilton playing as bad as he is yet our first round pick is not in is a fucking disgrace. This has gone beyond bearable anymore. This is a clueless bunch. Horrible defense and the coordinator stinks too.


Becoming? LOL.
RE: No way  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 6:03 pm : link
In comment 14564822 RasputinPrime said:
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should we be burning Jones by throwing him out there with no one to throw to. We need to develop the hell out of a lot of guys this season and draft well next season.

My number one ask is that we don't burn Jones or Barkley in a season we are not armed to conquer.


Yup. If it's clear we're out of it by midseason I'd give Jones more time and Barkley less time.
RE: Eli cost us minimum 6 points  
VinegarPeppers : 9/8/2019 6:03 pm : link

Assholic post.

In comment 14564827 jmalls23 said:
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Intentional grounding 3. Dinking and dunking 3. He stinks
RE: Just have to say it  
Gmen703 : 9/8/2019 6:03 pm : link
In comment 14564819 Marty866b said:
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This is the defense that Gettleman has brought in. Except for Jenkins, these are his guys. Let's not lose sight of this while many here are celebrating his selections of Barkley and Jones.


I'm probably DGs biggest critic. This falls on him.
RE: The haters are certain  
christian : 9/8/2019 6:03 pm : link
In comment 14564831 VinegarPeppers said:
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The haters are certain WRs are wide open all over downfield but Eli can’t reach them. That’s as stupid as half a dozen Barkley carries in a half of football.


Actually, on behalf of the haters, it's that the WRs are awful, and the Giants weirdly don't run the ball.

-xo, xo, the Haters
RE: another half of football to play  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 6:04 pm : link
In comment 14564792 bc4life said:
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Young guys will settle down a bit. this team will get better as year wears on. Dallas was a playoff team last year - Giants were not.


Exactly the deck is have stacked against us a BS call
keeps there TD drive alive .
Not having a stud WR is killing us .Just have to come out and score when we get the ball back make it a game
Keith Hamilton just called, he wants his last name back.  
GiantsUA : 9/8/2019 6:04 pm : link
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RE: The Defense sucks  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 6:04 pm : link
In comment 14564838 Big Rick in FL said:
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Which we should have known. They have a bunch of guys who have been in the NFL for less than 35 games. Those guys are getting significant snaps too. Lawrence, Hill, Tomlinson, Davis, Carter, Baker, Jabrill, Connelly & Antonio Hamilton.

Another problem is nobody is scared of Eli. He offers no threat to the defense. He's got 102 passing yards on 13 completions with 19 attempts. (Really 18 minus the Hail Mary) Those are pathetic numbers. Not all on him, but I feel he's had time and doesn't even attempt to make anything other then short passes.


Who's getting deep for him to attempt to throw to?
Interesting tactic to run IN to a Cowboy  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:04 pm : link
But okay, Corey
Of course there’s a flag  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:04 pm : link
, wtf!
fucking flag of course  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 6:04 pm : link
Fuck refs
Anybody see  
Tom from LI : 9/8/2019 6:05 pm : link
The Arizona cardinal offensive linemen sack kylar Murray
Lol - ( New Window )
This is a team with a poor WR core, a decent ol and a stud RB  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 6:05 pm : link
just put the rookie in at QB. The defense is going nowhere therefore the team is going nowhere. I can see the point if you have an absolute shit show for an OL.
Refs had to find a flag somewhere  
jgambrosio : 9/8/2019 6:05 pm : link
too good of a play by the Giants
Don't care about rating  
Thegratefulhead : 9/8/2019 6:05 pm : link
What I'm seeing from Eli is not good enough. Dak has made some drop in the bucket throws. Eli hasn't even tried one. I'm not asking for a QB switch at halftime. What I'm saying is, this isn't good enough.

Shurmur has put us behind the 8-ball by not running enough in the first half. Now we have to throw and be one-dimensional it's a terrible situation for our team to be in.
Michael Thomas having s solid day  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 6:05 pm : link
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Special teams ace  
bubba0825 : 9/8/2019 6:05 pm : link
Micheal Thomas in rear form with the hold
Reality sets in on BBI...  
.McL. : 9/8/2019 6:05 pm : link
Some people realized that the defense was highly questionable, and the line was still average, and the receivers below par.

The good thing is that the offense looks more competent than last year.
Eli short passes  
yalebowl : 9/8/2019 6:05 pm : link
Are because that’s what Shumer calls. Shumer also gets pass happy and goes away from the run.

Eli doesn’t play defense. It was a DG choice. Get a pass rusher with the No 6 pick or a QB to replace Eli at some point. If Jones was thrown in now we would see interceptions and fumbles.

We have no pass rush and the secondary is lost. Bethea is a veteran but slow. Baker is a rookie and it shows. Hamilton is useless. Where are Love and Ballantine?

The DL can stop the run but cannot pass rush. The three 3-4 scheme worked in the LT era but not today. Dallas has five blockers blocking three DL men and one edge rusher plus blitzers.
RE: It would be nice if we got a fucking sack  
Joey from GlenCove : 9/8/2019 6:05 pm : link
In comment 14564825 Anakim said:
Quote:
I know it's asking too much, but how about knocking the shit out of Dak?



You need to make a deal with the devil first
Look we have no talent  
Giants86 : 9/8/2019 6:05 pm : link
A couple of good players and one stud player.

We have no idea if our coaches are even any good?

Our only hope is that these young kids improve as the season progresses.

THERE YA GO  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:05 pm : link
Beautiful catch by Latimer. Nice throw, Eli
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 6:05 pm : link
There you go!
...  
ryanmkeane : 9/8/2019 6:05 pm : link
As previously said, if we start every drive at the 10 we don’t have any chance of winning any football game.
Latimer has moments like that where you wonder  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 6:05 pm : link
why he hasn't been more successful.
RE: THERE YA GO  
Joey from GlenCove : 9/8/2019 6:05 pm : link
In comment 14564863 Anakim said:
Quote:
Beautiful catch by Latimer. Nice throw, Eli


Agree
Yeah this is all Eli  
Tim in VA : 9/8/2019 6:05 pm : link
I can get more intelligent conversation with Redskins fans than some of you folks. I'd rather argue with a kindergartner than waste the effort debating this nonsense.
What  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 6:06 pm : link
a catch by Latimer.
nice pass  
IIT : 9/8/2019 6:06 pm : link
that
That was a perfect pass...  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 6:06 pm : link
and a nice job to catch the ball one handed
RE: fucking flag of course  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 6:06 pm : link
In comment 14564851 Bluesbreaker said:
Quote:
Fuck refs


Agreed. If they want to avoid injuries, stop making them waste their bodies on plays that don't count.
RE: Reality sets in on BBI...  
micky : 9/8/2019 6:06 pm : link
In comment 14564859 .McL. said:
Quote:
Some people realized that the defense was highly questionable, and the line was still average, and the receivers below par.

The good thing is that the offense looks more competent than last year.


Only thing ol improvement
Come on giants  
BIGbluegermany : 9/8/2019 6:06 pm : link
Nothing is over yet, but we have to stop all the errors
RE: RE: RE: No  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 6:06 pm : link
In comment 14564816 phil in arizona said:
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In comment 14564806 Toth029 said:


Quote:


In comment 14564756 AcidTest said:


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pass rush. Eli's lack of mobility has also been a problem.


Dak's mobility hasn't been needed. Looks like all you need is a stud OL.



Dak made a few good plays with his legs. He converted at least 1 3rd down.

They have Betcher in check. Dak just ran away from his fancy overload blitz.
RE: RE: It would be nice if we got a fucking sack  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:06 pm : link
In comment 14564861 Joey from GlenCove said:
Quote:
In comment 14564825 Anakim said:


Quote:


I know it's asking too much, but how about knocking the shit out of Dak?




You need to make a deal with the devil first


Or with a team in the top-10 so we wound up with both DJ and Josh Allen, but I digress :(
Where's Saquon?  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:07 pm : link
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I'm glad we're running the FB on 2nd and 10  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 6:07 pm : link
.
Give it to Eli Penny  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 6:07 pm : link
WTF?
RE: Eli short passes  
beatrixkiddo : 9/8/2019 6:07 pm : link
In comment 14564860 yalebowl said:
Quote:
Are because that’s what Shumer calls. Shumer also gets pass happy and goes away from the run.

Eli doesn’t play defense. It was a DG choice. Get a pass rusher with the No 6 pick or a QB to replace Eli at some point. If Jones was thrown in now we would see interceptions and fumbles.

We have no pass rush and the secondary is lost. Bethea is a veteran but slow. Baker is a rookie and it shows. Hamilton is useless. Where are Love and Ballantine?

The DL can stop the run but cannot pass rush. The three 3-4 scheme worked in the LT era but not today. Dallas has five blockers blocking three DL men and one edge rusher plus blitzers.


3-4 isn't the problem, its we have shit at LB and no pass rushers. At least they are easier to find in college than 4-3 DE's which once we stopped sticking the cupboards seemed to dry up for us.
Eli penny with the carry  
bubba0825 : 9/8/2019 6:07 pm : link
Good call, need more penny
Just replay that first drive on a loop......  
thrunthrublue : 9/8/2019 6:07 pm : link
That is and was the 2019 season’s highlight, that and being in competition for the 2020 first overall draft pick is all there is, and the Vegas odds of giants winning sb @200 to one is not enough.
Why are we not running with barklry  
Joey from GlenCove : 9/8/2019 6:07 pm : link
Like wtf
Horse shit  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:07 pm : link
That's PI. He puled his arm
Blatant PI  
AcesUp : 9/8/2019 6:07 pm : link
.
Penney on 2nd and ten  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 6:07 pm : link
WTF Shurmur
Interference
Why the hell is barkley not touching the ball more ?  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 6:08 pm : link
So dumb
That warrants a challenge  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 6:08 pm : link
.
I've had it with Shurmur not giving Barkley the ball  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 6:08 pm : link
.
How the hell was that not PI?  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 6:08 pm : link
My God these refs blow
going  
rocco8112 : 9/8/2019 6:08 pm : link
.

CLUTCH  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:08 pm : link
Nice job, Eli and Fowler
WHY ISN'T BARKLEY TOUCHING THE BALL  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 6:08 pm : link
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Great job Fowler!  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 6:08 pm : link
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Nice play  
jpkmets : 9/8/2019 6:08 pm : link
On 4th

Benny Fowler..  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 6:08 pm : link
makes a clutch play every game
Wtf is wrong with SHUrMuR???  
prdave73 : 9/8/2019 6:09 pm : link
Run the ball with Barkley!!!!
There you  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 6:09 pm : link
go! We need a TD here.
Why no challenge?  
micky : 9/8/2019 6:09 pm : link
.
.  
KevinBBWC : 9/8/2019 6:09 pm : link
Ralph Vacchiano
@RVacchianoSNY
·
46s
Giants LB Kareem Martin is out with a knee injury
Fourth  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 6:09 pm : link
and eight and we convert. Still no third down conversions.
RE: WHY ISN'T BARKLEY TOUCHING THE BALL  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 6:09 pm : link
In comment 14564893 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Inexcisable
Very Toomeresque  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:09 pm : link
By fowler
Oh, we have Saquon Barkley?  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:09 pm : link
I almost forgot. Thanks for the reminder, Pat
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 6:10 pm : link
Looks like Vince Vaughn did indeed drop by with those plays to the receivers.
RE: a big play in this game was the grounding obviously...  
Eman11 : 9/8/2019 6:10 pm : link
In comment 14564832 BillKo said:
Quote:
...but why would the Giants on third and 1, with no one over the center, not elect to just snap and sneak it??? It's right there in front of them...........


So were the non calls on Eli getting hit in the face and Saquon getting his face mask grabbed.
As bad as the defense is  
GiantFanInTX : 9/8/2019 6:10 pm : link
this offense is a big improvement over last year up front. This O line has done an outstanding job.
Might want to use  
jpkmets : 9/8/2019 6:10 pm : link
This Barkley guy
RE: Very Toomeresque  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 6:10 pm : link
In comment 14564903 Simms11 said:
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By fowler

Good call
why not do more of  
rocco8112 : 9/8/2019 6:10 pm : link
that
Barkley  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:10 pm : link
Had blocking, nice
RE: Very Toomeresque  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 6:10 pm : link
In comment 14564903 Simms11 said:
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By fowler


Yes.
This Barkley kid ain't bad  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 6:10 pm : link
Maybe get him some touches
IS shurmur brain dead ?  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 6:10 pm : link
Run the fucking ball with barkley how complicated is this ?
RE: WHY ISN'T BARKLEY TOUCHING THE BALL  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:10 pm : link
In comment 14564893 Ten Ton Hammer said:
Quote:
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He's getting penalized for fumbling :P
I actually want to see more screen passes..  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 6:10 pm : link
with Barkley
Hate that roll out  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 6:11 pm : link
Waste
Playcalling is a joke  
Rudy5757 : 9/8/2019 6:11 pm : link
Shurmur needs to pass the baton
Eli got hit in the face  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:12 pm : link
.
Stone hands  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 6:12 pm : link
.
Nice  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 6:12 pm : link
play by Lewis. Decent drive to start the half.
Shep has to catch it  
Essex : 9/8/2019 6:12 pm : link
...
4th and 8, TC would have punted. I like  
carpoon : 9/8/2019 6:12 pm : link
Shurmur.
Shouldn’t that be hands to the face  
10thAve : 9/8/2019 6:12 pm : link
at Eli?
Another hands to the face on Eli  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 6:12 pm : link
Not called
RE: Eli got hit in the face  
family progtitioner : 9/8/2019 6:12 pm : link
In comment 14564919 Anakim said:
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It's incredible, Eii never gets those calls
Wasted drive!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:12 pm : link
We need TDs not FGs, with this D.

RE: Eli got hit in the face  
markky : 9/8/2019 6:12 pm : link
In comment 14564919 Anakim said:
Quote:
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yup. i've seen less contact than that called before. i think the refs think Eli needs to be smacked in the face.
Saving barkey for next year?  
Rudy5757 : 9/8/2019 6:12 pm : link
Feed the beast
RE: Another hands to the face on Eli  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 6:13 pm : link
In comment 14564925 montanagiant said:
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Not called




























...
Shurmur must be the dumbest coach in the league  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 6:13 pm : link
I can't fathom having a weapon like Barkley and never using him. If that's how he'd be used, why even fucking draft him? What is wrong with this imbecile?
Can the D please make a 3 and out?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2019 6:13 pm : link
Am I asking for too much?
RE: Shouldn’t that be hands to the face  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 6:13 pm : link
In comment 14564924 10thAve said:
Quote:
at Eli?

No he's not a Cowboy OL.
I know it's common to  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 6:13 pm : link
complain about calls when you're getting hammered, but these refs are really one-sided.
Two issues with the execution on that last play...  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 6:13 pm : link
Shep rounded his route and Eli needed to wait another second.
So I guess Dilly Dilly is dead and buried  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:13 pm : link
.
Cmon Shepard - hit him right in the hands and mask  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 6:13 pm : link
.
That..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 6:13 pm : link
screen pass earlier should show that you don't have to get the ball to the LOS if a receiver is in the area.

No grounding
Catch what  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 6:13 pm : link
the ball was knocked away. By the way play calling is shit. Second down call all Barkley with no other options.
And Pirerra  
David B. : 9/8/2019 6:13 pm : link
will tell us why it's not a penalty.
RE: RE: Eli got hit in the face  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:13 pm : link
In comment 14564926 family progtitioner said:
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In comment 14564919 Anakim said:


Quote:


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It's incredible, Eii never gets those calls


It’s incredible to me! You’d think by now after 16 years that they’d be looking to kind of look for those things against him.
These receivers  
Marty866b : 9/8/2019 6:14 pm : link
Can't win on their routes. No separation at all. We all knew that this also was going to be a problem especially when they lack in size also.
RE: Two issues with the execution on that last play...  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 6:14 pm : link
In comment 14564935 EricJ said:
Quote:
Shep rounded his route and Eli needed to wait another second.


Can't wait, you throw it on the cut. Waiting just means all those other defenders in the middle come into play. Shepard has to catch that.
Shurmur's coaching for the pass like they're down 5  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 6:14 pm : link
with 4 minutes left.
The reconfigured OL has a tough task  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 6:14 pm : link
today, but so far it doesn't seem to be greatly improved. Might need some more time.
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 6:14 pm : link
It's pretty Giants that Barkley leaves the games to get his shoes tied on a redzone 3rd down.
Reality is the D has  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/8/2019 6:14 pm : link
To adjust a lot. Play man. Getting slaughtered on that zone and killed on play action.

RE: Can the D please make a 3 and out?  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:14 pm : link
In comment 14564932 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
Quote:
Am I asking for too much?


Probably in this game
RE: Catch what  
Bleedin Blue : 9/8/2019 6:14 pm : link
In comment 14564939 XBRONX said:
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the ball was knocked away. By the way play calling is shit. Second down call all Barkley with no other options.


That ball was NOT knocked away, it was right in his hands
Sore loser fans  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 6:15 pm : link
always blame the refs. Giants getting beat by better team.
RE: Catch what  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 6:15 pm : link
In comment 14564939 XBRONX said:
Quote:
the ball was knocked away. By the way play calling is shit. Second down call all Barkley with no other options.


It wasn't knocked away, it hit him in the hands
RE: These receivers  
Giants86 : 9/8/2019 6:15 pm : link
In comment 14564942 Marty866b said:
Quote:
Can't win on their routes. No separation at all. We all knew that this also was going to be a problem especially when they lack in size also.


They are 3-4-5 WRs. Not 1-2 WRs. What should we expect
RE: The reconfigured OL has a tough task  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:15 pm : link
In comment 14564945 jcn56 said:
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today, but so far it doesn't seem to be greatly improved. Might need some more time.


I don’t know. I think it’s been pretty good against a pretty stout D.
Are you fucking kidding me!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:16 pm : link
.
This. Is.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2019 6:16 pm : link
Embarrassing.
Oh boy....  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:16 pm : link
Love is going to be in there before long
Dak  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 6:16 pm : link
just has oodles of time to throw. It's like training camp, and he's wearing the red jersey.
my god  
family progtitioner : 9/8/2019 6:16 pm : link
there is NO pass rush
This defense  
Mike from SI : 9/8/2019 6:16 pm : link
is aggressively bad
Recamped secondary  
WillVAB : 9/8/2019 6:16 pm : link
Looks like last years secondary
Good drive to start  
Jim in Forest Hills : 9/8/2019 6:16 pm : link
Refs are showing they will let dbs grab a bit. Hope the giants utilize.
Methuselah Bethea on Cooper  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 6:16 pm : link
Smart design
Jesus we’re non  
bubba0825 : 9/8/2019 6:16 pm : link
Competitive on defense
This is flat out  
Br00klyn : 9/8/2019 6:16 pm : link
Embarrassing. Professional defensive backs that can’t cover whatsoever
Thank God  
GiantsRage2007 : 9/8/2019 6:16 pm : link
We drafted like 6 dbs??? Wtf.
Fucking  
BlueHurricane : 9/8/2019 6:17 pm : link
Pathetic
Zeke must have 5 yards per carry today..  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 6:17 pm : link
it feels like it anyway
RE: Sore loser fans  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 6:17 pm : link
In comment 14564950 XBRONX said:
Quote:
always blame the refs. Giants getting beat by better team.

Why is pointing out obvious penalties that are not called or penalties that are called when they shouldn't equate to being "sore losers"?

That's just dumb on multiple levels
Defense is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo  
GIANTS128 : 9/8/2019 6:17 pm : link
bad
Nobody behind or deep!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:17 pm : link
Coverage horrendous, but is this expected?
Same old shit  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 6:17 pm : link
year after fucking year. Fucking pathetic.
Truly embarrassing  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:17 pm : link
.
Pass rushers?  
thrunthrublue : 9/8/2019 6:17 pm : link
Nope, our first round pick is on the bench.
This is sickening  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 6:17 pm : link
.
worst defense  
rocco8112 : 9/8/2019 6:17 pm : link
in the league
This is embarrassing.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2019 6:17 pm : link
.
Sucks rooting for a shitty defense  
Sean : 9/8/2019 6:17 pm : link
.
Preseason....  
nzyme : 9/8/2019 6:17 pm : link
It matters!!!!!
#30  
Beezer : 9/8/2019 6:17 pm : link
Lol
So  
superspynyg : 9/8/2019 6:17 pm : link
When does hockey start?
28-10 Cowboys  
micky : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
.
It's  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
embarrassing. No pressure and blown coverages equals a blowout.
This defense is awful, just awful  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
They need to get better fast.
RE: worst defense  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
In comment 14564975 rocco8112 said:
Quote:
in the league


Miami. (Second worst).
Awful  
Rong5611 : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
Joke
Ogletree  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
For fucks sake lol. So bad. And a top salary on the team.
This is the type of game  
GiantFanInTX : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
that might get your coaching staff fired. This is just embarrassing.
RE: Thank God  
Diver_Down : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
In comment 14564965 GiantsRage2007 said:
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We drafted like 6 dbs??? Wtf.


Looks like DG needs to cluster draft another secondary. Fuckin' Bettcher Boys.
Dallas are just far better than we are.  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
There's almost no point getting out of shape about it. You can quibble about the playcalling on both sides of the ball, but the gap in quality of personnel is stark, and I don't even think Dallas have played more than 80%
Wow.  
fivehead : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
Just fucking great defense right there.
Wow  
mrvax : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
It's over already. Giants only have to fix the offense and defense.
their guys wide open..  
BillKo : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
...we need to work for every inch.

I guess everyone can stop with  
larryflower37 : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
How improved this defense is.
Take the rose color glasses off it going to be another ugly season
Man this team is dreadful  
Oscar : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
That or the Cowboys are the ‘99 Rams.
SMDH  
Bleedin Blue : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
No chance if the defense plays this way week in and week out!!
This is getting ugly  
Ira : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
.
This defense  
mattlawson : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
Is atrocious
Awful  
beatrixkiddo : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
I'm speechless at how awful the coverage is.
6 wins  
MookGiants : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
may be a miracle with this defense.

It's not Eli's fault that the defense is a total train wreck, but both the Giants and Eli would have been far better off if he were playing elsewhere this season.
Time to put in Jones?  
Mike from SI : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
I mean why not?
I know, I know  
illmatic : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
First game of the season, inexperienced team vs a veteran Dallas team, in Dallas, etc.

But good lord, this defense is embarrassing.
....  
ryanmkeane : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
How does Bettcher have a job after this week?
Hamilton  
Jeffrey : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
Has he done anything today to show the improvement that the Giants’ coaches claim has occurred?
I wonder if Shurmur and Gettleman will be so chatty after this game  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
.
This is the worst Giants defense I've ever seen  
Greg from LI : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
Making the Bill Sheridan year look good in comparison.
Just awful  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
A lot of new faces, old and young, and none of them are playing worth a shit today.
The route  
M.S. : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
Is on.

RE: This is the type of game  
nzyme : 9/8/2019 6:18 pm : link
In comment 14564987 GiantFanInTX said:
Quote:
that might get your coaching staff fired. This is just embarrassing.


I was just thinking the same thing....
If eli  
KDubbs : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
Would’ve had a td to shepard on the broken up pass, then that diesnt happen. Fucking eli!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!  
PaulN : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was expecting a rough day  
bceagle05 : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
but not this rough.
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
I fully realize I know nothing about the coverage responsibilities, but I highly doubt it calls for the safeties to just stand there and watch, right?
who needs elite pass rushers?  
superspynyg : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
We do.

Should have trade for Clowney.
We traded for  
GiantsRage2007 : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
Ogletree and Peppers and signed Bethea.

Drafted 4 dbs

Yep. Looking good.
RE: Preseason....  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
In comment 14564978 nzyme said:
Quote:
It matters!!!!!


I know your comment is sarcastic... but for me you need to play the starters more so they can actually practice in live action. We get so concerned about a potential injury that we basically sacrifice the first 1/4 of the season trying to get players ready once the regular season has started.
2 and  
thrunthrublue : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
14, with luck, and not andrew.
We look  
mittenedman : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
totally unprepared to defend DAL’s offense. That is inexcusable. They’ve been doing the same thing for a very long time.
They can't cover anybody  
dpinzow : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
even in 2 hand touch they wouldn't be coming close to stopping anyone
LOL  
BleedBlue : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
knew we woukd get fucking slaughtered today. defense is scary bad.
Just terrible pass D  
Rudy5757 : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
even without a pass rush you cant leave guys wide open like that. Safety play is horrendous.
This might be the worst  
RodneyHamp : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
Passing defense they have ever had. The receivers are just WIDE OPEN every single play.
Everyone is confused  
Blue Ninja : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
Hamilton, Bethea and Ogletree look really bad out there.
Shep with the drop  
ZogZerg : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
D continue sucking
PATHETIC
Is it the scheme?  
Rjanyg : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
In no way should our FS be covering Cooper, not by himself anyway.

Guys shouldn’t be running that wide open.
I can't even remeber  
Johnny5 : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
The last time I actually enjoyed watching this fucking disaster of a team. Fucking disaster.
RE: If eli  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
In comment 14565009 KDubbs said:
Quote:
Would’ve had a td to shepard on the broken up pass, then that diesnt happen. Fucking eli!


Yes, the D is definitely ELi's fault
This reminds me of game 1 of 2007, except the part where  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
we had an offense.
WTF  
NY-Fan : 9/8/2019 6:19 pm : link
Can we start the offseason over again? May need to rethink the defense.
I'm not even mad.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
I'm just sorta resigned to this shit. Another season DOA before October. Whatever.
Well,  
JPinstripes : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
so much for halftime adjustments...
RE: ....  
GIANTS128 : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
In comment 14565002 ryanmkeane said:
Quote:
How does Bettcher have a job after this week?


he is not an elite coach....sad but true
RE: This is the worst Giants defense I've ever seen  
santacruzom : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
In comment 14565005 Greg from LI said:
Quote:
Making the Bill Sheridan year look good in comparison.


This truly may be the worst defense in the league. And in CFB too.
RE: Methuselah Bethea on Cooper  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
In comment 14564962 j_rud said:
Quote:
Smart design


We don’t know what the play call was or It could’ve been miscommunication with young secondary.
Oh well  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
Were not even near these guys running through
the secondary like a fucking cow pasture ..
Nothing Belcher is doing is even slowing them down .With the play-calling we have no chance .
RE: This is the worst Giants defense I've ever seen  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
In comment 14565005 Greg from LI said:
Quote:
Making the Bill Sheridan year look good in comparison.


Greg... it does look really bad today, but we set bad defense records a few years ago.
Blame DG  
Gmen703 : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
...
Jones should play the 4th  
Oscar : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
Assuming the Giants don’t score before then which is a safe assumption. Eli does not need to play garbage time, the kid needs every rep he can get.
Not  
PaulN : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
Only is there not a sign of progress, but this team is regressing.
Nice halftime adjustments  
M.S. : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
For our secondary.

Dallas may set NFL record, before the start of the 4th quarter.
Betcher needs to be Gone.  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
Shurmur brought him in. They look Miami lost. The safeties aren’t rookies. Now we know why Peppers was available. Totally invisible today.
This is a nightmare  
Marty866b : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
Hoping for so much better.
RE: Is it the scheme?  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
In comment 14565025 Rjanyg said:
Quote:
In no way should our FS be covering Cooper, not by himself anyway.

Guys shouldn’t be running that wide open.

Is Betcher tring to lose?
no pass rush  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
because we are facing the best Oline in football and we don't have anyone rushing the passer that has either the talent or the experience to make the difference.

We didn't match up well and will be better some some more experience by the time we play them again.
Who sucks more  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
Shurmur or Bettcher?
I knew there would be communication  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
Issues, but Holy Fuck no one is covering anybody.

This can’t be what he’s calling.
I didn't think theyd win  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
I just didnt want to get embarrassed. Literally txtd that exact thought to my brother this morning. Apparently thats too much to hope for.
This defense ain't stopping no one this year  
micky : 9/8/2019 6:20 pm : link
Unless they learn or capable of better play as season goes. Doubt it. It's what you see now you get.
Is it too early to start  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
competing with Miami for the first pick?
This is a 4 win team again.  
GiantFanInTX : 9/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
Anyone who thought otherwise before the season started was sniffing glue. ZERO pass rush on the defensive side of the ball. We play a 3-4 scheme without ANY 3-4 linebackers. Dak looks good, but mainly because he has all day. You could put ANY QB of any level back there and the result is the same.
Well, Damon Harrison was extended by the Lions through 2021  
SB 42 and 46 and ? : 9/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
for about 11 million dollars. We certainly had no use for him, with the caliber of our defense.

Harrison is a key part of Detroit's defensive line as one of the top run-stoppers in the league. He has played in 102 games, starting 95 of them -- including playing in 17 games last season. He has nine sacks and four forced fumbles in his career, but the 350-pound tackle is dominant against the run. Pro Football Focus graded him as the No. 3 interior defender in the NFL last season and said he had the best run-stop percentage in the NFL (16%) last year.
Making him look like  
Rflairr : 9/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
Aaron Rodgers. This DC is awful
RE: Time to put in Jones?  
Eman11 : 9/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
In comment 14565000 Mike from SI said:
Quote:
I mean why not?


Can he play D too?
RE: Betcher needs to be Gone.  
bubba0825 : 9/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
In comment 14565041 LauderdaleMatty said:
Quote:
Shurmur brought him in. They look Miami lost. The safeties aren’t rookies. Now we know why Peppers was available. Totally invisible today.


I agree peppers isn’t showing much
This is what happens when you pick up another  
prdave73 : 9/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
Fatty for the Dline instead of a pass rusher. And to make things worse you move up lose draft picks and pickup another slow CB who has a lot of confidence?? Lol what a train wreck..
RE: This is the worst Giants defense I've ever seen  
Mr. Bungle : 9/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
In comment 14565005 Greg from LI said:
Quote:
Making the Bill Sheridan year look good in comparison.

The worst I've ever seen was when Eli threw 6 TDs...and the Giants lost.
Oh My God!!  
buster : 9/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
Oh My God...
RE: I didn't think theyd win  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
In comment 14565047 j_rud said:
Quote:
I just didnt want to get embarrassed. Literally txtd that exact thought to my brother this morning. Apparently thats too much to hope for.

I had the same feeling. Guess that ain't gonna' happen.
RE: RE: If eli  
KDubbs : 9/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
In comment 14565027 PatersonPlank said:
Quote:
In comment 14565009 KDubbs said:


Quote:


Would’ve had a td to shepard on the broken up pass, then that diesnt happen. Fucking eli!



Yes, the D is definitely ELi's fault


Right over your head
RE: This reminds me of game 1 of 2007, except the part where  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
In comment 14565028 BestFeature said:
Quote:
we had an offense.


And hall of famers on defense.
Anyone else....  
thrunthrublue : 9/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
Tired of seeing eli throw balls into the ground time after time? Fire oc/dc/hc
Who  
Ron Johnson : 9/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
Said this is a 3 year rebuild? This is going to take 7 years. We have no players on defense
Gettleman  
PaulN : 9/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
The entire organization stinks and is to blame, John Mara too, he signed off on this shitshow.
Jabril  
MookGiants : 9/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
Peppers is an average player. Bethea is horrendous. Ogletree and the rest of the linebackers are horrendous. Zero pass rushers. Baker a rookie, no depth anywhere.

People always overreact to week 1, but this is more of the same bullshit we've seen for years now. This team is hot garbage.
Secondary Sucks Ass  
WillVAB : 9/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
All these guys brought in aren’t worth a shit.
RE: who needs elite pass rushers?  
Toth029 : 9/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
In comment 14565014 superspynyg said:
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We do.

Should have trade for Clowney.

Clowney isn't an elite pass rusher. In fact he's not great.
7 carries for Saquon  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:22 pm : link
Unacceptable
Bring #8 in.  
RDJR : 9/8/2019 6:22 pm : link
.
I don’t want to hear about all the talent we draft  
UberAlias : 9/8/2019 6:22 pm : link
Until we see it on the field. The talent gap here is huge.
Hopefully  
Pork Chop : 9/8/2019 6:22 pm : link
This means the cowboys will over pay Dak
RE: RE: Time to put in Jones?  
Mike from SI : 9/8/2019 6:22 pm : link
In comment 14565053 Eman11 said:
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In comment 14565000 Mike from SI said:


Quote:


I mean why not?



Can he play D too?


Nope but if we're gonna lose might as well get him some experience.
Giants playing the long con  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 6:22 pm : link
Tricking Jerry into giving Dak a huge contract
RE: RE: This is the worst Giants defense I've ever seen  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/8/2019 6:22 pm : link
In comment 14565033 santacruzom said:
Quote:
In comment 14565005 Greg from LI said:


Quote:


Making the Bill Sheridan year look good in comparison.



This truly may be the worst defense in the league. And in CFB too.


Miami is worse by a lot. But this looks bottom five easy . And while there is youth and some pass rush issues Betcher seems to be a big part of the issue
The only saving grace  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 6:22 pm : link
would be if Jones took today as the impetus to sign Cooper and Prescott to huge extensions.
RE: Who sucks more  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:22 pm : link
In comment 14565045 XBRONX said:
Quote:
Shurmur or Bettcher?



Yes
Pathetic scheming  
hitdog42 : 9/8/2019 6:22 pm : link
Playing 2 deep all game to what? Protect the corners? Why? And then get torched over the middle all game
It’s not just talent the scheming and coaching is awful
Why would you expect a good secondary  
Rflairr : 9/8/2019 6:22 pm : link
When you sign old ass Betha as your leader in it.
Hard to....  
OBJRoyal : 9/8/2019 6:23 pm : link
Watch such a shit show
Were def getting a top 2020 draft pick......  
LeftHook : 9/8/2019 6:23 pm : link
I didn't think we were going to win today, but I didnt want to be embarrassed either......... Ughhhhh
RE: 7 carries for Saquon  
nicky43 : 9/8/2019 6:23 pm : link
In comment 14565067 Anakim said:
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Unacceptable


They didn't let him play in preseason games either. They are really trying to preserve this big investment.
50 awareness Saquon  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 6:23 pm : link
.
Saquon needs to do that wheel route more  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:23 pm : link
If Eli threw it over the top, it would be a TD
RE: Bring #8 in.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 6:23 pm : link
In comment 14565068 RDJR said:
Quote:
.


At this rate he'll get to throw 2 passes.
RE: RE: Preseason....  
nzyme : 9/8/2019 6:23 pm : link
In comment 14565016 EricJ said:
Quote:
In comment 14564978 nzyme said:


Quote:


It matters!!!!!



I know your comment is sarcastic... but for me you need to play the starters more so they can actually practice in live action. We get so concerned about a potential injury that we basically sacrifice the first 1/4 of the season trying to get players ready once the regular season has started.


Actually in context of today's game I was completely serious. If these guys aren't ready then you should play them in the preseason to get them ready!

The games now count! You have people who are going to question the GM, the head coach, and the DC after this game. Hell look at the thread! People are already questioning it. Wait until the beat writers publish their stuff tomorrow...It's not going to be pretty.
I’m prepared to  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:23 pm : link
wait on the defense and make a judgment call after at least first quarter of season.
Bettcher game plan working like a charm  
jeff57 : 9/8/2019 6:23 pm : link
Stop Elliot by letting Dallas complete every pass.
Rebuild  
PaulN : 9/8/2019 6:23 pm : link
You have to make the right picks and have the right men as coaches to rebuild, this is not a rebuild, this is a lost organization, a flat out bad organization from top to bottom. Look at Ogletree, how bad he is and paying him what we are paying him.
check down champ...  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 6:24 pm : link
barkley was going for the home run eli doesn't throw anything down the field
It all boils down to Manning..  
buster : 9/8/2019 6:24 pm : link
He puts so little fear into the 11 across from him..He 's beginning to look like my pop when we played touch on Amsterdam Ave. He was 60!
I don't really understand what this team is doing  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 6:24 pm : link
You build around Barkley and give him 8 carries in 3 quarters.
Eli is not great, but  
CT Charlie : 9/8/2019 6:24 pm : link
he's not our main problem.
Well, it wasn't SB42  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:24 pm : link
But it'll do
That was a shockingly athletic play by Eli  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 6:24 pm : link
.
Is that Randall Cunningham?  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 6:24 pm : link
.
wow.. nice job Eli!  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 6:24 pm : link
..
Athleticism!  
IIT : 9/8/2019 6:24 pm : link
Athleticism!
Eli still got some magic in em  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 6:24 pm : link
.
Eli  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 6:24 pm : link
way to keep it alive
Good. Let him challenge it  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:25 pm : link
Eli stayed up
Joe Buck is trash  
Route 9 : 9/8/2019 6:25 pm : link
.
Eli  
UberAlias : 9/8/2019 6:25 pm : link
Extending plays!
Eli  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 6:25 pm : link
is not one of the players who needs to talk to their mother later tonight.
you can't win with rookies on defense  
WillieYoung : 9/8/2019 6:25 pm : link
Everyone who thought we could is delusional. I am disappointed with our offense that needed to score 30+ to make this a game.
Even  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 6:25 pm : link
if we score, we can't stop them.
Eli Penny?  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:26 pm : link
Really? REALLY?
What a stupid call that was  
Essex : 9/8/2019 6:26 pm : link
...
Eli qb sneak time!  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 6:26 pm : link
.
that was some play  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 6:26 pm : link
by SB to keep that play alive. Wow.
Why?  
bubba0825 : 9/8/2019 6:26 pm : link
Are we giving it to penny
RE: Eli Penny?  
KevinBBWC : 9/8/2019 6:26 pm : link
In comment 14565107 Anakim said:
Quote:
Really? REALLY?


+1
You ran Penny???  
nzyme : 9/8/2019 6:26 pm : link
WTF???
RE: Even  
GiantFanInTX : 9/8/2019 6:26 pm : link
In comment 14565106 AcidTest said:
Quote:
if we score, we can't stop them.


This. And what's worse is it's super easy.
Was Penny the #2 pick in the draft?  
Rudy5757 : 9/8/2019 6:26 pm : link
Terrible
penny instead of barkley  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 6:26 pm : link
makes a ton of sense....not
Pat Fooling no one  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 6:26 pm : link
!
Wow.. bad play call there..  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 6:26 pm : link
.
Who  
bigblue18 : 9/8/2019 6:26 pm : link
call these plays?
Eli Penny has 2 carries today  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 6:26 pm : link
while Saquon has what, 10? Stop outsmarting yourself Shurmur.
Keep riding Eli fucking Penny.  
bceagle05 : 9/8/2019 6:26 pm : link
.
Shurmur  
MookGiants : 9/8/2019 6:26 pm : link
makes Ben McAdoo look like a genius.

Can't fucking stand him.
Put ball in barkley's hands  
micky : 9/8/2019 6:26 pm : link
.
What. The. Fuck. Was. That?  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:27 pm : link
.
Why not  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 6:27 pm : link
Hand off to SB???
I don't like  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 6:27 pm : link
counting pennies
Get the fucking  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 6:27 pm : link
statue out.
league  
rocco8112 : 9/8/2019 6:27 pm : link
laughingstock
They need to  
AcesUp : 9/8/2019 6:27 pm : link
run Barkley short yardage more. Fucking ridiculous that they don't use him in those sitatuations.
Whenever you can get Eli iso'ed on a defensive player in space  
Mike from SI : 9/8/2019 6:27 pm : link
you have to do it.
Throw the fucking ball!!!!!!!!!!  
GiantsRage2007 : 9/8/2019 6:27 pm : link
Wtf!!!!!!
OMG that is completely embarassing  
markky : 9/8/2019 6:27 pm : link
that is unbelievable
Lmfao eli?  
micky : 9/8/2019 6:27 pm : link
Pathetic
Fuck Shurmur  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 6:27 pm : link
this play calling is a fucking joke .
LOL when Eli realized he wasnt getting to the sticks  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 6:27 pm : link
You could feel the fear
RE: What. The. Fuck. Was. That?  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 6:27 pm : link
In comment 14565125 Anakim said:
Quote:
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That's going to be c'mon man
I've had it with this coach  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 6:27 pm : link
Barkley didn't even run it once there. I've never seen such arrogance and ignorance.
say anything you want but  
jvm52106 : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
Eli is horrible.. His decision making on the move is just awful..
Please nobody say  
greek13 : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
We should draft and focus on offense next offseason
No defense no chance
Pass rush
Safeties
Smh that anyone in management thought
This defense was competitive talent - wise

We have superman at Rb we need his brother on d
What a fucking  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
clown shit show. So embarrassing.
Lawrence is such an asshole......  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
Smug MFer.
now a boot leg  
MookGiants : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
with a QB who can't move.

Can't be illegal contact, he was outside of the pocket.

Shurmur should be left in Dallas.
That's still...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
PI!! You can't b lock a WR in the pattern
Shurmur.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
LOL.
If Shurmur isn't careful...  
nzyme : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
He won't be around to win with DJ.
That was clearly on Eli  
Essex : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
...
Play calling is terrible.  
RDJR : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
Give it to 26. Unreal.
wow  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
Shep was tackled and Eli had no where else to go.
The Eli rollout didn't work the first six times  
illmatic : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
so let's try it six more times!
Fumbled eli  
micky : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
Holy shit bad
Saquon's not that type of player  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
But if ever there was a time to be like "Gimme the damn ball," it's this.


This is truly atrocious play-calling
more naked boot legs with eli  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
and running with penny instead of barkley?

wtf offense is this?
How does Saquon not get the ball on either of the last 2 plays  
dpinzow : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
what on earth is going on
Give the ball to Barkley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
.
My reciever gets tackled but  
Chris L. : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
there is no foul.....WTF???????
Eli  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
didn't throw it because he thought he could run for the first down. The problem is I'm not sure why he thought he could do so.
RE: now a boot leg  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
In comment 14565144 MookGiants said:
Quote:
with a QB who can't move.

Can't be illegal contact, he was outside of the pocket.

Shurmur should be left in Dallas.


Illegal contact? He was tackled.
RE: Put ball in barkley's hands  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
In comment 14565123 micky said:
Quote:
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Giants coaches inability to feature their stars is very problematic
Eli cant move so why does shurmur keep on rolling him out ?  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
Barkley only has 10 carries. shurmur is a moron
I think that coke commercial was for us guys...  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
.
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
3 and short and Barkley doesn't touch the ball. 4th and short and Barkley doesn't touch the ball. Lol Jim Shurmur.
That was funny.  
bigblue18 : 9/8/2019 6:28 pm : link
can we get jones next week, but the season is over in sept. again
This coach is loser  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
arrogant without any kind of justification for it.
QB out of the pocket so you can mug the WR  
Rudy5757 : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
Makes sense.
So.  
Beezer : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
You’re allowed to tackle the receiver if the quarterback is outside the pocket.

Got it.
Huge chunk of your cap dedicated to OL  
AcesUp : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
2nd pick and best RB in NFL. Analytics support it. Yet, they rarely run it with Barkley on 2nd/3rd/4th and 1.
How is that not a penalty  
BillT : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
.
How many times does this Roll out fail  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
before you lose the ball my God make it stop
Give your best player the ball  
Giants86 : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
Good Lord....
“Sim Season”  
Oscar : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
.
Fire shurmer,,,,,,,  
thrunthrublue : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
🤮
Another 3rd and short and Saquon doesn’t see the ball either down  
nyjuggernaut2 : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
But Eli Penny does??
So.  
Beezer : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
You’re allowed to tackle the receiver if the quarterback is outside the pocket.

Got it.
It isn't..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
illegal contact - it is PI.

If not, on any play where the QB rolls out, you could tackle the WR's.
RE: ...  
Mr. Bungle : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
In comment 14565164 christian said:
Quote:
3 and short and Barkley doesn't touch the ball. 4th and short and Barkley doesn't touch the ball. Lol Jim Shurmur.

Penny > Barkley.

Duh.
They tackled the primary receiver  
schabadoo : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
How is that allowed?
I did hate that playcall  
Jim in Forest Hills : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
Run 26 there
the play calls  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
and calls by the refs

have been very suspect today. Very suspect...
When you can see what's going through  
beatrixkiddo : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
Eli's mind and not in a good way on each of these plays, you know we are fucked.
RE: So.  
BillT : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
In comment 14565168 Beezer said:
Quote:
You’re allowed to tackle the receiver if the quarterback is outside the pocket.

Got it.

Really. What is that
So you can tackle receivers  
igotyourbackman : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
When qb is out of the pocket?
Helmet to Helmet  
Simms : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link

???

AND why the up back and not barkley on the play before ....
Horrendous playcalling and Eli is absolutely awful  
nygmen84 : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
.
Is Barkley hurt?  
bubba0825 : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
Why not run him there? With Pat Shermurs record I guess we shouldn’t questthe calls
OMG  
family progtitioner : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
that play right there is a great example of why the rest of the nation have zero respect for Eli and the Giants. Best RB in the NFL and that's the result.
Shurmur looking inept here now  
GiantFanInTX : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
no way to defend him here. Barkley is not being used in the Red Zone and calling plays for a mobile QB with a non mobile QB under center...
You know how we laugh at media folks  
santacruzom : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
Who predict a 6-10 finish, as if their prediction has no merit to it?

This is the team they see when they make those predictions.
RE: more naked boot legs with eli  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
In comment 14565154 mphbullet36 said:
Quote:
and running with penny instead of barkley?

wtf offense is this?


Eli might of made it to the marker, but chose to try to cut it up inside.
RE: Saquon's not that type of player  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
In comment 14565153 Anakim said:
Quote:
But if ever there was a time to be like "Gimme the damn ball," it's this.


This is truly atrocious play-calling


He's more of the type of guy who by his actions inspires others
I really really really wanted to hope that Shurmur would be  
BestFeature : 9/8/2019 6:30 pm : link
a good coach that could groom Jones and fix this franchise but the guy is a complete moron. He is a fucking embarrassment to this league. I've never seen a coach completely neglect not only his best player, one of the best players in the league, and a HOF talent. This is absolutely fucking criminal.
RE: Why?  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 6:30 pm : link
In comment 14565111 bubba0825 said:
Quote:
Are we giving it to penny


^This. I'm not sure why we ran Penny into the line, and then had Eli roll out.
RE: It isn't..  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 6:30 pm : link
In comment 14565177 FatMan in Charlotte said:
Quote:
illegal contact - it is PI.

If not, on any play where the QB rolls out, you could tackle the WR's.


Stop making sense. You are going to be exhausted by the end of the game.
WTF!?!  
ChaChing : 9/8/2019 6:30 pm : link
Helmet to helmet hit on QB, no call

Tackle of WR that the THREW THE FLAG FOR...no mention? DAL ball. NYG isn't good but this is total bullshit
Are those seriously the fucking rules?  
UberAlias : 9/8/2019 6:30 pm : link
You can tackle a wr if the qb rolls out??? WTF
There’s zero point  
Metnut : 9/8/2019 6:30 pm : link
in not starting Jones next week. Team isn’t competitive. Might as well see if Jones is any good.
I don't get that call.  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 6:30 pm : link
Shepard was tackled so Eli couldn't throw it to him because the D tackled him
Cmon coach 4th and 1  
NoPeanutz : 9/8/2019 6:30 pm : link
Ya gotta give it to Barkley. That's just...
I have been a huge supporter of Manning  
DonnieD89 : 9/8/2019 6:30 pm : link
Manning had an opportunity to get the first down by running it in. Time to put Jones in.
We have the best RB in the NFL  
dpinzow : 9/8/2019 6:30 pm : link
and we don't hand it to him OR set up a pass play for him on 3rd and 4th down?
Dumpster Fire "Mode"  
LeftHook : 9/8/2019 6:30 pm : link
Ignite............. Great preseason though, lol
Shepard got mugged  
George from PA : 9/8/2019 6:30 pm : link
And no call?

The flag was thrown PI against Shepard.
Did I misunderstand the PI challenge rules?  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 6:30 pm : link
Can't you challenge a WR/TE getting tackled in the end zone on a passing play with no PI foul?
And hit the quarterback  
Beezer : 9/8/2019 6:30 pm : link
In the face

Eh. Whatever.
RE: QB out of the pocket so you can mug the WR  
Azul Grande : 9/8/2019 6:31 pm : link
In comment 14565167 Rudy5757 said:
Quote:
Makes sense.


Sorry to say I think this is Eli’s fault. It’s fourth down on the ten. Why not try the throw? If it’s in the air they call that PI or Holding. But Eli thought he could slide behind the line and pick up the first down.
So you're telling me  
eclipz928 : 9/8/2019 6:31 pm : link
that as long as the QB is outside of the pocket a defender can go ahead and mug a receiver all they want? Interesting.
Seriously hope  
CT Charlie : 9/8/2019 6:31 pm : link
Shurmur does some serious self-grading on the play-calling tomorrow.
That's why Lawrence  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 6:31 pm : link
Loves Eli
Maybe they are trying to showcase what Eli is unable to do  
NY-Fan : 9/8/2019 6:31 pm : link
to make the case for Jones. Just saying. Only reasonable explanation for not running the best back in football on 4th & short and rolling the slowest QB in the league out.
I  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 6:31 pm : link
still don't understand why that wasn't pass interference.
RE: This coach is loser  
Essex : 9/8/2019 6:31 pm : link
In comment 14565166 Ten Ton Hammer said:
Quote:
arrogant without any kind of justification for it.


We have had three short yardage plays we needed to convert, 3rd and one in first half (intentional grounding) and the last two plays, and we don’t get the ball to SB. It’s malpractice
Shepard was tackled  
ryanmkeane : 9/8/2019 6:31 pm : link
By 2 guys. How is that not a flag???
Confirmed  
BillT : 9/8/2019 6:31 pm : link
Terrible call
Refs blow. Our offense blows. Our defense blows.  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:31 pm : link
That's a recipe for a complete disaster of a game
Wasn’t that helmet to helmet  
Andrew in Austin : 9/8/2019 6:31 pm : link
On Dallas? Wtf?
Jerry’s cutting checks  
aka dbrny : 9/8/2019 6:31 pm : link
And Aikman is getting a piece of the action
Daniel Jones needs to play....you can tell bootleg is a huge part of  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/8/2019 6:31 pm : link
What shurmur wants to offensively.
This is why people hate the NFL  
UberAlias : 9/8/2019 6:31 pm : link
The rules are a total joke.
They.  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 6:31 pm : link
actually threw the flag.
Football sucks  
oldutican : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
Lot of really smart football guys on BBI. How many knew you could tackle a receiver if the QB is outside the pocket? Football sucks.
RE: I  
widmerseyebrow : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
In comment 14565213 AcidTest said:
Quote:
still don't understand why that wasn't pass interference.


Refs + Jerry Jones Bang Bus = not pass interference.
Baker isn't very good either.  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
.
RE: I  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
In comment 14565213 AcidTest said:
Quote:
still don't understand why that wasn't pass interference.


Fox finally calling the play for what it is. Not that it means anything.
Think I'm gonna turn off the game  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
Later, guys
RE: I've had it with this coach  
greek13 : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
In comment 14565139 BestFeature said:
Quote:
Barkley didn't even run it once there. I've never seen such arrogance and ignorance.


That is a disgrace on shurmur
Penny? Is this a joke
RE: Seriously hope  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
In comment 14565210 CT Charlie said:
Quote:
Shurmur does some serious self-grading on the play-calling tomorrow.


I've seen very little humility from this guy. He's an excuse-maker. He sat around reminding everybody how bad the roster was last season.
Another 6 play 85 yard possession  
NoPeanutz : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
against our Defense. Oy vey.
Why didnt Shurmur challenge that P.I.  
90.Cal : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
But he wanted to challenge the hail mary at the end of the half?
No Barkley??  
Rflairr : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
Fire Shurmur please and his dumbass Defensive Coordinator
Keystone  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
cops in the secondary. Laughable.
Type of game that coaches should get fired.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
This is embarrassing.
Sometimes You Drink Beers Because You're Excited  
Percy : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
Other times it is to deal with despair. Then you know it's time to move on to whisky. I'm about there after watching this pathetic team, especially the non-tackling twinkies we have out there in the secondary. They're just brushed aside with one arm like toys by the Girls' receivers on their way past them to uncovered Giant territory, which most of it.
It's time folks  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
the Giants have been taking half measures since they sacked Coughlin. One step at a time.

It's time to flush the entire FO, bring someone from outside and rebuild this fucker.
Baker abused again  
90.Cal : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
.
Somehow peppers  
bubba0825 : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
Looks worse at covering than Collins
Baker  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
is pure shit
Omg lol where was peppers running in that trail there?  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
He just stopped following lol
The Cowboys' O-line is good enough not to hold  
CT Charlie : 9/8/2019 6:32 pm : link
but they do it anyway, just for practice. On every play.
Butcher making Dak Prescott  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
Look like Dan fucking Fouts.
I saw flags fly  
micky : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
And that excuse by refs.
Dallas Punter  
yalebowl : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
Will not have to wash his jersey today.
This D  
kes722 : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
Sucks... fire everyone
Dallas D  
RenierWolfcastle : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
Is sniffing out damn near every pass play. They're not getting fooled by PA or misdirection. Barkley needs to get more carries/touches and just quit playing around and at least try to play smashmouth fb and try to control the LOS.
NOW  
Mike from SI : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
can we put in Jones to give him some experience please?
Man  
jpkmets : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
This is zero fun
Daniel Jones will play earlier than expected...  
nzyme : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
Not because of Eli's play necessarily but because this team's future is shot for this season!
Eli's receiver was tackled before the fumble.  
KeoweeFan : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
Why isn't that a penalty such that the play with a fumble is nullified?!?
I just checked and unfortunately the right, stupid call  
jgambrosio : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
If the quarterback or the receiver of the snap demonstrates no further intention to pass the ball (i.e., hands off or pitches the ball to another player, throws a forward or backward pass, loses possession of the ball by a muff that touches the ground or a fumble, or if he is tackled) the restrictions on the defensive team prohibiting illegal contact, or an illegal cut block, against an eligible receiver will end, and a defensive player is permitted to use his hands, arms, or body to push, pull, or ward off an offensive receiver, pursuant to Rule 12, Section 1, Article 5. If the quarterback leaves the pocket area with the ball in his possession, the restrictions on illegal contact and an illegal cut block both end, but the restriction on defensive holding remains in effect.
RE: I  
BillKo : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
In comment 14565213 AcidTest said:
Quote:
still don't understand why that wasn't pass interference.


Clearly should have been PI, you can't tackle the guy.

Perria just said so.
This franchise is going absolutely nowhere  
Mr. Bungle : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
with Pat Shurmur.

When will that dawn on the Giants' brass?
This secondary is amazing  
Oscar : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
Gettleman is a genius.
clowns  
MookGiants : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
Gettleman and Shurmur should talk about culture after this game.

The Giants lose because they have a remarkably poor roster. They have the worst talent in the NFL by far at the most important positions.
How many years do we have to watch  
GiantFanInTX : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
3rd and long be an automatic conversion?
We traded up into the first round  
UberAlias : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
To draft this Baker guy?
Baker getting abused  
jeff57 : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
.
AT least they mentioned NYG got hosed  
ChaChing : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
Of course the D did not, they just suck

Middle of the field, still open all day. For like a decade (actually even in 2011)
Sorry, But Deandre Baker Sucks  
Bernie : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
nothing more
shurmur failed to challenge past interference  
NYDCBlue : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
I blame him.
...  
BleedBlue : 9/8/2019 6:33 pm : link
the secondary is embarrassing bad
(typo)  
Percy : 9/8/2019 6:34 pm : link
"which is most of it."
I thought it’d be competitive  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:34 pm : link
but this is just silly!
RE: NOW  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 6:34 pm : link
In comment 14565248 Mike from SI said:
Quote:
can we put in Jones to give him some experience please?


If they score 6, that's what they should do. C'mon you cowards
RE: I  
Essex : 9/8/2019 6:34 pm : link
In comment 14565213 AcidTest said:
Quote:
still don't understand why that wasn't pass interference.


Because Eli didn’t throw it (it was still holding)
Jones  
Bleedin Blue : 9/8/2019 6:34 pm : link
Has pics of every ref F$&king little boys!!
Middle of field open every  
ZogZerg : 9/8/2019 6:34 pm : link
FUCKING play
Can this coordinater
Btw  
greek13 : 9/8/2019 6:34 pm : link
Bethea is terrible
Don’t blame the refs
The announcers
Our defense was destroyed and toyed with
bad teams  
family progtitioner : 9/8/2019 6:34 pm : link
get bad calls.
RE: shurmur failed to challenge past interference  
Giantology : 9/8/2019 6:34 pm : link
In comment 14565262 NYDCBlue said:
Quote:
I blame him.


Maybe he'll get a future interference call
Some of these LBs and DBs are not NFL caliber players  
dpinzow : 9/8/2019 6:34 pm : link
at least at this point in time
All of these new corners  
WillVAB : 9/8/2019 6:34 pm : link
Suck ass. Looks just like last year. Different names same shit. This has nothing to do with the passrush.
RE: I just checked and unfortunately the right, stupid call  
BillKo : 9/8/2019 6:34 pm : link
In comment 14565252 jgambrosio said:
Quote:
If the quarterback or the receiver of the snap demonstrates no further intention to pass the ball (i.e., hands off or pitches the ball to another player, throws a forward or backward pass, loses possession of the ball by a muff that touches the ground or a fumble, or if he is tackled) the restrictions on the defensive team prohibiting illegal contact, or an illegal cut block, against an eligible receiver will end, and a defensive player is permitted to use his hands, arms, or body to push, pull, or ward off an offensive receiver, pursuant to Rule 12, Section 1, Article 5. If the quarterback leaves the pocket area with the ball in his possession, the restrictions on illegal contact and an illegal cut block both end, but the restriction on defensive holding remains in effect.


Tackling the offensive player still applies too :)
LOL  
NoPeanutz : 9/8/2019 6:34 pm : link
we should grab some coverage guys in the draft next year. Maybe trade for a safety.
This organization  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 9/8/2019 6:34 pm : link
is a joke.
Shurmur will NOT be the Giants coach  
map7711 : 9/8/2019 6:34 pm : link
If they start winning again. Period. He’s over his head.
Bring in Jones  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 6:34 pm : link
-
Sometimes You Drink Beers Because You're Excited  
Percy : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
Other times it is to deal with despair. Then you know it's time to move on to whisky. I'm about there after watching this pathetic team, especially the non-tackling twinkies we have out there in the secondary. They're just brushed aside with one arm like toys by the Girls' receivers on their way past them to uncovered Giant territory, which is most of it.
RE: shurmur failed to challenge past interference  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
In comment 14565262 NYDCBlue said:
Quote:
I blame him.


It can't be pass interference if there's no pass. So you can't challenge it.
RE: This franchise is going absolutely nowhere  
santacruzom : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
In comment 14565254 Mr. Bungle said:
Quote:
with Pat Shurmur.

When will that dawn on the Giants' brass?


If they finish with a losing record, they'll likely act as though they thought this would be a rebuilding year all along and therefore not reflective of Shurmur as a coach.
RE: LOL  
UberAlias : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
In comment 14565276 NoPeanutz said:
Quote:
we should grab some coverage guys in the draft next year. Maybe trade for a safety.
lol.
RE: This franchise is going absolutely nowhere  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
In comment 14565254 Mr. Bungle said:
Quote:
with Pat Shurmur.

When will that dawn on the Giants' brass?


It's not just Shurmur - the talent level on this team stinks. After all that roster churn, it was just old garbage for new garbage.
RE: Sorry, But Deandre Baker Sucks  
RDJR : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
In comment 14565261 Bernie said:
Quote:
nothing more


His first game in the NFL. Easy bro.
Again. Hats off to people who watch this shit product sober.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
Better person than me.
RE: I just checked and unfortunately the right, stupid call  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
In comment 14565252 jgambrosio said:
Quote:
If the quarterback or the receiver of the snap demonstrates no further intention to pass the ball (i.e., hands off or pitches the ball to another player, throws a forward or backward pass, loses possession of the ball by a muff that touches the ground or a fumble, or if he is tackled) the restrictions on the defensive team prohibiting illegal contact, or an illegal cut block, against an eligible receiver will end, and a defensive player is permitted to use his hands, arms, or body to push, pull, or ward off an offensive receiver, pursuant to Rule 12, Section 1, Article 5. If the quarterback leaves the pocket area with the ball in his possession, the restrictions on illegal contact and an illegal cut block both end, but the restriction on defensive holding remains in effect.


No intention to pass? That has never happened to Eli who never has an intention to run.
RE: Shurmur will NOT be the Giants coach  
cokeduplt : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
In comment 14565279 map7711 said:
Quote:
If they start winning again. Period. He’s over his head.



It appears so
Disgusted to hear the  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
glee and dick sucking from the announcers....but not surprised.
RE: Shurmur will NOT be the Giants coach  
bubba0825 : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
In comment 14565279 map7711 said:
Quote:
If they start winning again. Period. He’s over his head.


This, there’s nothing to suggest otherwise
Jason Pierre Paul was ranked 65th on the list of best NFL players of  
SB 42 and 46 and ? : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
2019 according to the annual survey of players taken by NFL.com.

His teammates on the Lions praise him for the great effort he put into everything despite playing in great pain.

The Giants might have a few players make the top 1000 list this year.
Praise from Lions for JPP and 65th ranking. - ( New Window )
Cowboys have scored a TD on every drive except the first  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
one, where they shot themselves in the foot.

Our defense still sucks
Wha's dallas tot O yards 700?  
micky : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
.
The next time they clean house  
Oscar : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
Which will probably be next spring, Tisch or someone who's not in John Mara's golf foursome needs to be in the room for the interviews.
The inexperienced D-backfield is showing  
RenierWolfcastle : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
Jackrabbit is not getting picked on...

It also doesn't help that there is no pass rush and blitzes are efficiently getting picked up
can we go back to the last preseason game thread...  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
people thinking the was a "gritty" bunch

LMAO
mannnnnn  
GIANTS128 : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
defense is just garbage
Ogletree using Zeke like an Uber  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
.
Eli has been great.  
NoPeanutz : 9/8/2019 6:35 pm : link
But the Defense didn't show up. Might as well let #8 mop up.
RE: All of these new corners  
Rflairr : 9/8/2019 6:36 pm : link
In comment 14565274 WillVAB said:
Quote:
Suck ass. Looks just like last year. Different names same shit. This has nothing to do with the passrush.


When the players change. It’s the shitty coaches
They Cowboys were obviously a better team  
KeoweeFan : 9/8/2019 6:36 pm : link
They should have saved the biased refs for another game.
I guess we'll start running SB now  
Rudy5757 : 9/8/2019 6:36 pm : link
Eli is our best rusher
Terrible coaching today  
SteelGiant : 9/8/2019 6:36 pm : link
I'm not saying ballantine is good but why not bench any of shit playing corners. Why are not running Barkley on short yardage. Why are bootlegging a statue.
This  
Rolyrock : 9/8/2019 6:36 pm : link
Hurts.
Yes Bakers  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 6:36 pm : link
first game, but he has looked really bad ALL game
Statement from captain obvious here  
short lease : 9/8/2019 6:36 pm : link

We need a couple of defensive drafts.
put Jones in right now  
gtt350 : 9/8/2019 6:36 pm : link
if you have any balls
RE: Jason Pierre Paul was ranked 65th on the list of best NFL players of  
jgambrosio : 9/8/2019 6:36 pm : link
In comment 14565292 SB 42 and 46 and ? said:
Quote:
2019 according to the annual survey of players taken by NFL.com.

His teammates on the Lions praise him for the great effort he put into everything despite playing in great pain.

The Giants might have a few players make the top 1000 list this year. Praise from Lions for JPP and 65th ranking. - ( New Window )


WTF are you talking about? JPP isn't on the Lions.
RE: Shurmur will NOT be the Giants coach  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 6:36 pm : link
In comment 14565279 map7711 said:
Quote:
If they start winning again. Period. He’s over his head.


and DG should? He built this defense
Maybe Shurmur wants to lose  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:36 pm : link
We know he wants to switch over to DJ



No, the first statement isn't serious, but we know the second one is
RE: Some of these LBs and DBs are not NFL caliber players  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:36 pm : link
In comment 14565273 dpinzow said:
Quote:
at least at this point in time


I recall Dallas drafting two CBs back to back a few years ago. They were not good that year either. It takes time for these guys to develop. He needs experience.
RE: Eli has been great.  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 6:36 pm : link
In comment 14565301 NoPeanutz said:
Quote:
But the Defense didn't show up. Might as well let #8 mop up.


Lol, wut?
RE: RE: Sorry, But Deandre Baker Sucks  
Bernie : 9/8/2019 6:36 pm : link
In comment 14565286 RDJR said:
Quote:
In comment 14565261 Bernie said:


Quote:


nothing more



His first game in the NFL. Easy bro.


Yep, and getting abused on the basics. Sucks.
RE: put Jones in right now  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 6:36 pm : link
In comment 14565309 gtt350 said:
Quote:
if you have any balls


he wont because he doesn't want the story line
We might have 4 or 5 players on defense  
dpinzow : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
that belong on an NFL field, and I'm being generous
RE: RE: I just checked and unfortunately the right, stupid call  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
In comment 14565288 RasputinPrime said:
Quote:
In comment 14565252 jgambrosio said:


Quote:


If the quarterback or the receiver of the snap demonstrates no further intention to pass the ball (i.e., hands off or pitches the ball to another player, throws a forward or backward pass, loses possession of the ball by a muff that touches the ground or a fumble, or if he is tackled) the restrictions on the defensive team prohibiting illegal contact, or an illegal cut block, against an eligible receiver will end, and a defensive player is permitted to use his hands, arms, or body to push, pull, or ward off an offensive receiver, pursuant to Rule 12, Section 1, Article 5. If the quarterback leaves the pocket area with the ball in his possession, the restrictions on illegal contact and an illegal cut block both end, but the restriction on defensive holding remains in effect.



No intention to pass? That has never happened to Eli who never has an intention to run.


I agree, however even if Eli was planning on running you still can't tackle a player. Shepard was tackled from behind, at a minimum that is defensive holding
Honestly  
GiantsRage2007 : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
This might be the worst defense I’ve ever seen.

Glad we fixed the OL and have a rb we took #2 and a backup qb #6.

“I still like our team...” , “practiced well” —  
RDJR : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
Pat Shurmur
RE: put Jones in right now  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
In comment 14565309 gtt350 said:
Quote:
if you have any balls

Exactly
I look forward  
santacruzom : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
To how Shurmur handles the media when they ask about Jones.
Im glad  
cokeduplt : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
We traded up for Baker the guy is burnt toast
Schurmur  
odunde : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
Just doesn’t have the mental side to hang with the best. No shame in it. He just doesn’t have it.
RE: put Jones in right now  
The_Boss : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
In comment 14565309 gtt350 said:
Quote:
if you have any balls


It’s 35-10...Put the kid in...Eli’s done enough today
Put Jones in  
Ned In Atlanta : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
.
This defense  
KerrysFlask : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
Just made Dak a fucking billionaire.

Horrendous pass rush. Nonexistent. Blitzing hasn't done shit.

Their d is all over Eli's snap count.

Shurmer seems to be unaware Barkley is on the active roster.
If they don't put in Daniel Jones down 25 with a quarter left why the  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
Fuck did you draft him. Get him some reps.
RE: Eli has been great.  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
In comment 14565301 NoPeanutz said:
Quote:
But the Defense didn't show up. Might as well let #8 mop up.


"eli has been great " smh the bar has been set low with his play nowadays
RE: can we go back to the last preseason game thread...  
UberAlias : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
In comment 14565297 mphbullet36 said:
Quote:
people thinking the was a "gritty" bunch

LMAO
. Good times...good times..
Eli Penny on one play  
M.S. : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
Eli Manning roll out on 4th

No Saquon

Maybe Schurmur is a little over his head with the play calling

The Giants are still in a re-build

Schurmur is at the crossroads of his HC career
Look what happens  
Les in TO : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
When you discard your best receiver run defender pass rushers cornerback and safety. But yay culture
Theres jones..jerry that is  
micky : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
Obligatory Fox NFL tv shot vs giants
The dallas players are laughing because this is requiring  
GiantFanInTX : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
such little effort. It's so easy for them. I hate the Dallas Cowboys, their fans, everything about their franchise more than anything else in the world, but they are superior to the Giants in every way. Their front office is top notch, they are well coached on both sides of the ball and they are winning this division yet again.
Refs were terrible today  
Blue Ninja : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
but we didn't lose because of them. A ton of mistakes on both sides.
RE: RE: put Jones in right now  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
In comment 14565316 mphbullet36 said:
Quote:
In comment 14565309 gtt350 said:


Quote:


if you have any balls



he wont because he doesn't want the story line



Why would that take balls? This game is over. Jones isn't going to help
RE: RE: RE: I just checked and unfortunately the right, stupid call  
jgambrosio : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
In comment 14565318 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 14565288 RasputinPrime said:


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In comment 14565252 jgambrosio said:


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If the quarterback or the receiver of the snap demonstrates no further intention to pass the ball (i.e., hands off or pitches the ball to another player, throws a forward or backward pass, loses possession of the ball by a muff that touches the ground or a fumble, or if he is tackled) the restrictions on the defensive team prohibiting illegal contact, or an illegal cut block, against an eligible receiver will end, and a defensive player is permitted to use his hands, arms, or body to push, pull, or ward off an offensive receiver, pursuant to Rule 12, Section 1, Article 5. If the quarterback leaves the pocket area with the ball in his possession, the restrictions on illegal contact and an illegal cut block both end, but the restriction on defensive holding remains in effect.



No intention to pass? That has never happened to Eli who never has an intention to run.



I agree, however even if Eli was planning on running you still can't tackle a player. Shepard was tackled from behind, at a minimum that is defensive holding


Read the last sentence...
Just terrible  
mrvax : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
some fans are crying somewhere...
RE: Eli has been great.  
Thegratefulhead : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
In comment 14565301 NoPeanutz said:
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But the Defense didn't show up. Might as well let #8 mop up.
No
Pressure  
Simms : 9/8/2019 6:37 pm : link
Giants had a chance to rebound and were woefully morphed into a bad de team on defense.

Tackling a WR Eli had no where to go and you know what .... he nor Penny the play before should have been in that mess, you give the ball to your best player in that situation. Not using Barkley in either play was beyond bad.
RE: RE: Some of these LBs and DBs are not NFL caliber players  
dpinzow : 9/8/2019 6:38 pm : link
In comment 14565313 Simms11 said:
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In comment 14565273 dpinzow said:


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at least at this point in time



I recall Dallas drafting two CBs back to back a few years ago. They were not good that year either. It takes time for these guys to develop. He needs experience.


They weren't this bad though
RE: Eli has been great.  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:38 pm : link
In comment 14565301 NoPeanutz said:
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But the Defense didn't show up. Might as well let #8 mop up.


Might have to if Eli keeps taking hits like he has.
RE: Statement from captain obvious here  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 6:38 pm : link
In comment 14565308 short lease said:
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We need a couple of defensive drafts.


i don't trust Gettleman to make them
Barkley 9 Touches  
LeftHook : 9/8/2019 6:38 pm : link
Great game plan...... Yep thats it
RE: It's time folks  
family progtitioner : 9/8/2019 6:38 pm : link
In comment 14565237 jcn56 said:
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the Giants have been taking half measures since they sacked Coughlin. One step at a time.

It's time to flush the entire FO, bring someone from outside and rebuild this fucker.


People on this site say they'll be competitive in 1-2 years. I call BS. This looks like another 5 years at least to get a decent D together.
RE: Eli has been great.  
Dutch77 : 9/8/2019 6:38 pm : link
In comment 14565301 NoPeanutz said:
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But the Defense didn't show up. Might as well let #8 mop up.

I hope you’re joking about Eli.
good thing  
MookGiants : 9/8/2019 6:38 pm : link
Gettleman kept guys like Ogletree and Eli on this team at their respective cap numbers to help the "culture" of the team.

And while the offensive line has been patched together to be an OK starting 5 this year, the Giants are going to have big time offensive line issues again soon. Solder is on the wrong side of 30, Remmers is always injured.

This organization is a complete mess. If Jones is the real deal he'll mask a lot of issues down the road. Woof
RE: RE: Eli has been great.  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 6:38 pm : link
In comment 14565330 Giantfan21 said:
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In comment 14565301 NoPeanutz said:


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But the Defense didn't show up. Might as well let #8 mop up.



"eli has been great " smh the bar has been set low with his play nowadays


Lol, right. Like what are you watching
The defense might be  
adambear : 9/8/2019 6:38 pm : link
worst in NFL bad
RE: ...  
short lease : 9/8/2019 6:38 pm : link
In comment 14565263 BleedBlue said:
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the secondary is embarrassing bad



I don't think it is the secondary alone - where is the pass rush? Prescott hasn't been touched once. I don't think he has been hurried - never mind touched.
RE: RE: RE: Some of these LBs and DBs are not NFL caliber players  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:38 pm : link
In comment 14565342 dpinzow said:
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In comment 14565313 Simms11 said:


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In comment 14565273 dpinzow said:


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at least at this point in time



I recall Dallas drafting two CBs back to back a few years ago. They were not good that year either. It takes time for these guys to develop. He needs experience.



They weren't this bad though


They were pretty bad IIRC. Bad is bad.
Really shocked DeAndre Baker is getting owned so bad  
KerrysFlask : 9/8/2019 6:38 pm : link
.

He's better than this.
I thought.

Hamilton just straight up sucks.
Everyone on here swears gettleman is great  
bhill410 : 9/8/2019 6:38 pm : link
He traded Beckham for a safety and drafted how many people in secondary. It’s one game so who knows but not sure I get the blind faith in this guy
Tough to watch  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 6:38 pm : link
Especially listening to these two ass wipes..
Our D-line stinks non factor .
Belcher has no answers
Shumur I have no idea what he is doing none .
This game is lost  
PhilD : 9/8/2019 6:39 pm : link
Play DJ to give him some game time
Put the blame more on the GM  
Marty866b : 9/8/2019 6:39 pm : link
Then the coach. This is the team that Gettleman has assembled. Posters here were applauding him for turning over the roster. This is just one game but you have to be a blind man not to see how bad this defense is. These are the players that this GM has brought in. Baker and Lawrence don't look like impact players to me. Maybe in time.
RE: Barkley 9 Touches  
LeftHook : 9/8/2019 6:39 pm : link
In comment 14565347 LeftHook said:
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Great game plan...... Yep thats it
Opps 2 Pass Rec
Come on.. Who here really thought we had a chance!!1..  
buster : 9/8/2019 6:39 pm : link
Now Elliot? Welcome back gift from our D..
RE: good thing  
dpinzow : 9/8/2019 6:39 pm : link
In comment 14565351 MookGiants said:
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Gettleman kept guys like Ogletree and Eli on this team at their respective cap numbers to help the "culture" of the team.

And while the offensive line has been patched together to be an OK starting 5 this year, the Giants are going to have big time offensive line issues again soon. Solder is on the wrong side of 30, Remmers is always injured.

This organization is a complete mess. If Jones is the real deal he'll mask a lot of issues down the road. Woof


No QB can cover up for this kind of defense. Even Brady would have trouble
This team will pick in the top 5  
Ned In Atlanta : 9/8/2019 6:39 pm : link
Paying Eli $23 million never made sense. And continuing to trot him out makes less sense. People can get mad but it’s the glaringly obvious truth
Awesome use of draft capital  
WillVAB : 9/8/2019 6:39 pm : link
Shit corners who look just as bad as the last crop of shit corners.

Terrible fucking defense.

All of the stat dorks dick riding cornerbacks need to crawl back into their respective holes.
This  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 6:39 pm : link
is like the Eagle game when Eli was a rookie. Put Jones in.
RE: Really shocked DeAndre Baker is getting owned so bad  
Blue Ninja : 9/8/2019 6:39 pm : link
In comment 14565359 KerrysFlask said:
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He's better than this.
I thought.

Hamilton just straight up sucks.


I'll give him a couple of weeks. He was just hurt and looked like some of it is miscommunication.
RE: Really shocked DeAndre Baker is getting owned so bad  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 6:39 pm : link
In comment 14565359 KerrysFlask said:
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.

He's better than this.
I thought.

Hamilton just straight up sucks.


Sometimes players start hot. Sometimes not. I'm not judging any of the players today. The dinks off the field however...
They wont put jones in because if comes in and plays well they dont  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 6:39 pm : link
want to deal with a QB controversy so instead he will sit on the sidelines instead of getting valuable experience
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 6:39 pm : link
The Giants got screwed on that red zone call, clear as day. So we're talking what, like 56-17 if it goes the Giants way?
Well we got to laugh at  
crick n NC : 9/8/2019 6:39 pm : link
Beckham, he gets to laugh at us
RE: The defense might be  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:40 pm : link
In comment 14565354 adambear said:
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worst in NFL bad


I think Dolphins might have something to say about that!
Like I said  
mdthedream : 9/8/2019 6:40 pm : link
we need DEs we are way to young on the line. EL is toast and the coaching calls on 3rd and short have been crazy bad.
Dallas  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 6:40 pm : link
is going for a 50 burger.
Every snap Eli takes the rest of this game  
Oscar : 9/8/2019 6:40 pm : link
Is a mistake.
RE: RE: good thing  
NoPeanutz : 9/8/2019 6:40 pm : link
In comment 14565366 dpinzow said:
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In comment 14565351 MookGiants said:


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Gettleman kept guys like Ogletree and Eli on this team at their respective cap numbers to help the "culture" of the team.

And while the offensive line has been patched together to be an OK starting 5 this year, the Giants are going to have big time offensive line issues again soon. Solder is on the wrong side of 30, Remmers is always injured.

This organization is a complete mess. If Jones is the real deal he'll mask a lot of issues down the road. Woof



No QB can cover up for this kind of defense. Even Brady would have trouble

Or the waiver wire receivers.
ideal eli check down territory...  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 6:40 pm : link
to get those stats back up
I hope they show several more shots of Jerrah celebrating in his box  
mfsd : 9/8/2019 6:40 pm : link
while I punch myself in the nuts repeatedly
Only down by 25!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:40 pm : link
Let’s not huddle up!
RE: RE: The defense might be  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 6:40 pm : link
In comment 14565375 Simms11 said:
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In comment 14565354 adambear said:


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worst in NFL bad



I think Dolphins might have something to say about that!


We'll find out when we play them.
I feel horrible for Saquon  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:40 pm : link
.
10 points?  
Rflairr : 9/8/2019 6:40 pm : link
They hired Shurmur, why exactly?

Why did he get this job?
RE: good thing  
mrvax : 9/8/2019 6:40 pm : link
In comment 14565351 MookGiants said:
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Gettleman kept guys like Ogletree and Eli on this team at their respective cap numbers to help the "culture" of the team.


Eli was kept b/c he had no other guys at QB in March when Eli got his roster bonus.
Time to put Jones in.  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 6:40 pm : link
Let him play the 4th quarter.
RE: Every snap Eli takes the rest of this game  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 6:41 pm : link
In comment 14565378 Oscar said:
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Is a mistake.


Why should we throw Jones out there and risk injury in a game that doesn't matter?
Eli took blows to the head 3 times in 3 quarters  
VinegarPeppers : 9/8/2019 6:41 pm : link
Not one call.

It’s getting like news...only about ratings.
RE: The dallas players are laughing because this is requiring  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 6:41 pm : link
In comment 14565335 GiantFanInTX said:
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such little effort. It's so easy for them. I hate the Dallas Cowboys, their fans, everything about their franchise more than anything else in the world, but they are superior to the Giants in every way. Their front office is top notch, they are well coached on both sides of the ball and they are winning this division yet again.

When did they last win a SB?
Awesome  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:41 pm : link
Call a needed timeout because why not?
Look how tight the Cowboys play in coverage  
NY-Fan : 9/8/2019 6:41 pm : link
The Giants play 5 yards off.
RE: I feel horrible for Saquon  
bubba0825 : 9/8/2019 6:41 pm : link
In comment 14565385 Anakim said:
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at least he isn’t getting beat up by only having a few carries
RE: RE: RE: good thing  
jgambrosio : 9/8/2019 6:41 pm : link
In comment 14565380 NoPeanutz said:
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In comment 14565366 dpinzow said:


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In comment 14565351 MookGiants said:


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Gettleman kept guys like Ogletree and Eli on this team at their respective cap numbers to help the "culture" of the team.

And while the offensive line has been patched together to be an OK starting 5 this year, the Giants are going to have big time offensive line issues again soon. Solder is on the wrong side of 30, Remmers is always injured.

This organization is a complete mess. If Jones is the real deal he'll mask a lot of issues down the road. Woof



No QB can cover up for this kind of defense. Even Brady would have trouble


Or the waiver wire receivers.


How have our receivers been the problem today? Our issue was Eli making bad decisions and the worst defensive performance we've seen in years.
Why the fuck are we taking a to there?  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 6:41 pm : link
badly, badly coached team.
Time to put Jones in  
Jerz44 : 9/8/2019 6:41 pm : link
If I'm going to watch this team lose, I at least want to watch the next QB doing it so I can see what we got
RE: RE: Every snap Eli takes the rest of this game  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 6:41 pm : link
In comment 14565389 RasputinPrime said:
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In comment 14565378 Oscar said:


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Is a mistake.



Why should we throw Jones out there and risk injury in a game that doesn't matter?

Exactly
RE: I feel horrible for Saquon  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 6:41 pm : link
In comment 14565385 Anakim said:
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At least he gets to stay healthy. You know, since he isn't getting to play.
keep  
rocco8112 : 9/8/2019 6:42 pm : link
giving him the ball
RE: ideal eli check down territory...  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 6:42 pm : link
In comment 14565381 mphbullet36 said:
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to get those stats back up


It's that time
RE: Why the fuck are we taking a to there?  
micky : 9/8/2019 6:42 pm : link
In comment 14565398 bigbluescot said:
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badly, badly coached team.


So they boys can get a drink
The defense is getting scorched...  
Gary JC : 9/8/2019 6:42 pm : link
...and people are talking about Manning. You young guys are entertaining.
11 touches, 113 yards  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:42 pm : link
But no, let's continue running Eli Penny
100+ yards wooooooooo  
LeftHook : 9/8/2019 6:43 pm : link
#26
Who cares  
mdthedream : 9/8/2019 6:43 pm : link
anyone could play as good at Eli. Screw giving him this kind of money.
RE: Why the fuck are we taking a to there?  
Mr. Bungle : 9/8/2019 6:43 pm : link
In comment 14565398 bigbluescot said:
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badly, badly coached team.

Shurmur is in the bottom five of head coaches, I think.
If you're going to take a time out  
eclipz928 : 9/8/2019 6:43 pm : link
just as well use the opportunity to challenge the pass interference.
RE: The defense is getting scorched...  
Jerz44 : 9/8/2019 6:43 pm : link
In comment 14565408 Gary JC said:
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...and people are talking about Manning. You young guys are entertaining.


I get your point, but a better O protects this defense a bit more. I love Eli but all he can do is check down and hand off now.
The defense is so, so, so bad.  
BlueLou'sBack : 9/8/2019 6:43 pm : link
At least they figured out Tae Davis isn't an NFL LB and have started playing Connolly. Next, let's put Love at FS, and Ballentine at CB, and just throw in the towel on Bethea, Hamilton etc.
What is the point of  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 6:43 pm : link
Eli still playing? Oh to pad his HOF stats
RE: RE: Every snap Eli takes the rest of this game  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 6:43 pm : link
In comment 14565389 RasputinPrime said:
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In comment 14565378 Oscar said:


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Is a mistake.



Why should we throw Jones out there and risk injury in a game that doesn't matter?


Sure, why not. We'll never let Jones play until there's a game that matters for him.

With this defense, that might be before his rookie contract is over.
Please put DJ in.  
Jim in Hoboken : 9/8/2019 6:43 pm : link
I loved Eli, but now he's not adding to my enjoyment of the game at all. I can't bear hearing any more of the "preparing and competing" every week after a loss.

Why even argue who's at fault when we are once again getting our shit pushed in by the hated rival? Who cares?

What pisses me off is that jackass Elliot is looking like a world beater and Saquon can't get a fucking touch.

Fuck this coach.
RE: The defense is getting scorched...  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 6:43 pm : link
In comment 14565408 Gary JC said:
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...and people are talking about Manning. You young guys are entertaining.


because we know we would get torched....so let the young QB get experience. Knowing we had arguably the worst defense in the NFL...doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that.
If the kid played  
mdthedream : 9/8/2019 6:44 pm : link
today the game would be a lot closer.
PUT JONES IN THE GAME!  
RDJR : 9/8/2019 6:44 pm : link
What are you proving by keeping Eli in there?
I've actually been relatively positive about Shurmur  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 6:44 pm : link
but this has been an absolute joke in terms of calling this game.
'They should have saved the biased refs for another game.'  
Torrag : 9/8/2019 6:44 pm : link
LOL so true.
Offensive PI for blocking  
yalebowl : 9/8/2019 6:44 pm : link
But not defensive holding in the end zone by tackling the receiver
Latimer has been getting interfered  
beatrixkiddo : 9/8/2019 6:44 pm : link
with all game and no call, they now decide to call PI against him and the ball isn't even near him?
Coooooooper  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:44 pm : link
Did you bet on the Giants?
We're a 1-man offense  
Ken Yadiggit : 9/8/2019 6:44 pm : link
And he's touched the ball 11 times in 3 quarters...

Genius.
RE: Pressure  
Dutch77 : 9/8/2019 6:45 pm : link
In comment 14565341 Simms said:
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Giants had a chance to rebound and were woefully morphed into a bad de team on defense.

Tackling a WR Eli had no where to go and you know what .... he nor Penny the play before should have been in that mess, you give the ball to your best player in that situation. Not using Barkley in either play was beyond bad.

If Eli is no longer an elite player, WTF is he on the team? We know the D sucks, but so does dumb face.
Forget the Eli conversation  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 6:45 pm : link
I thought this offense was supposed to be built around Saquon.

The minute the Cowboys went up by a single touchdown Shurmur went absolutely pass-insane.
RE: If the kid played  
Gary JC : 9/8/2019 6:45 pm : link
In comment 14565422 mdthedream said:
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today the game would be a lot closer.


LMAO!!
run plays  
rocco8112 : 9/8/2019 6:45 pm : link
featuring Barkley
John Mara's head coaching hires:  
Mr. Bungle : 9/8/2019 6:45 pm : link
Ben McAdoo
Pat Shurmur

Can he stay out of it next time? Maybe an online fan poll or something?
It is easy to make a secondary look bad  
short lease : 9/8/2019 6:45 pm : link

if you have no pass rush. It seems like Prescott has open lanes and 5 - 7 seconds to throw the ball every time.


So whether you lose by 1 pt or 50 who cares  
joe48 : 9/8/2019 6:45 pm : link
Team will play better once they get experience on defense. Probably see Jones as soon as the coaches think he is ready. Playing Eli at this point makes no sense.
RE: Look how tight the Cowboys play in coverage  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:45 pm : link
In comment 14565395 NY-Fan said:
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The Giants play 5 yards off.


I don’t get it, but Giants are playing a ton of Zone and that’s why they’re off, but non-the-less, coverage is atrocious and there’s a lot of miscommunication too.
I'm with those calling for Jones  
Matt M. : 9/8/2019 6:45 pm : link
It has nothing to do with next week or the rest of the season. But, this is a blowout in the 4th. What purpose is served by Eli playing? Let Jones get some real game action.
Baker  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 6:45 pm : link
will get better. He's a rookie, up against one of the better WRs in the NFL in Cooper, and there is no pass rush.

I do agree that we should play Connelly and Ballentine more.
Im honestly not sure this franchise will ever get back to a  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 6:45 pm : link
consistently winning team as long as mara owns the team. His decision making in the last 7 years has been terrible and he still doesnt realize hes a big part of the problem
RE: RE: If the kid played  
short lease : 9/8/2019 6:46 pm : link
In comment 14565437 Gary JC said:
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In comment 14565422 mdthedream said:


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today the game would be a lot closer.



LMAO!!



WRONG!
Lol  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 6:46 pm : link
Couldnt complete a screen
What  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 6:46 pm : link
is the point of playing Barkley now and risking injury?
This has gone beyond embarrassing now  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 6:46 pm : link
.
RE: This team will pick in the top 5  
Essex : 9/8/2019 6:46 pm : link
In comment 14565367 Ned In Atlanta said:
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Paying Eli $23 million never made sense. And continuing to trot him out makes less sense. People can get mad but it’s the glaringly obvious truth


Wait, this isn’t a playoff team?
If it was up to you guys  
Dave on the UWS : 9/8/2019 6:46 pm : link
EVERYONE would have been canned in 2007 after the first two games. Anyone who expected a better defensive effort today was dreaming. With the amount of inexperience they are playing, this was the likely result. Too much miscommunication is not good.
RE: If the kid played  
Bramton1 : 9/8/2019 6:46 pm : link
In comment 14565422 mdthedream said:
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today the game would be a lot closer.


Why? Can Jones cover receivers or rush the quarterback?
This little shit is why i want Jones  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 6:46 pm : link
You cant be tjat off with a fucking swing pass.
RE: RE: The defense is getting scorched...  
WillVAB : 9/8/2019 6:46 pm : link
In comment 14565415 Jerz44 said:
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In comment 14565408 Gary JC said:


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...and people are talking about Manning. You young guys are entertaining.



I get your point, but a better O protects this defense a bit more. I love Eli but all he can do is check down and hand off now.


Eli has played fine. This defense is fucking terrible.
Nice pass.  
RDJR : 9/8/2019 6:46 pm : link
.
Not to sound like a whiny b**ch  
GiantSteps : 9/8/2019 6:46 pm : link
but the refs are shit today.

Our defense isn't doing squat but this game isn't Eli's loss. I also think we're going to fare better than people think against teams that aren't as deep as Dallas and Philly.
stop checking down!!  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 6:46 pm : link
maddening
RE: RE: Look how tight the Cowboys play in coverage  
Matt M. : 9/8/2019 6:46 pm : link
In comment 14565443 Simms11 said:
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In comment 14565395 NY-Fan said:


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The Giants play 5 yards off.



I don’t get it, but Giants are playing a ton of Zone and that’s why they’re off, but non-the-less, coverage is atrocious and there’s a lot of miscommunication too.
They are playing more than 5 yards off.
The last thing  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 6:46 pm : link
we need to do is put Jones in this game. Destroy his mental psyche and let the Cowboys tee off on him? No fucking way. Let Eli get blasted and make the change next week....but not now.
No checkdowns here.....  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:47 pm : link
How about a slant?
Nice pushing the ball down field  
micky : 9/8/2019 6:47 pm : link
Lol
How has Eli been incapable of THROWING IN THE FLAT HIS WHOLE FUCKING C  
Ken Yadiggit : 9/8/2019 6:47 pm : link
So frustrating.
Getting your ass completely kicked  
Rflairr : 9/8/2019 6:47 pm : link
by a division rival. And Davey Gettleman has the nerve to get offended when Francessa calls them losers. Look at this shit show we’re all forced to watch.
3rd and 17  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:47 pm : link
Go for the short pass. Trot out the Punter
The dump off king.  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 6:47 pm : link
we're just wasting time and cap.
15 years in the NFL  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 6:47 pm : link
can't complete a pass to the HB in the swing.
Ridiculous route and pass there  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:47 pm : link
How was that going to get a first down?
See enough  
igotyourbackman : 9/8/2019 6:47 pm : link
DJ time
Eli got used to throwing 5 yards to Odell and having him take it to  
Jim in Hoboken : 9/8/2019 6:47 pm : link
the house.

What's with this short throws on 3rd and long?
Send in the clowns  
bubba0825 : 9/8/2019 6:47 pm : link
...
Vintage Eli: Incomplete open pass to the flat  
Ken Yadiggit : 9/8/2019 6:48 pm : link
Hasn't hit those his whole damn career.
RE: RE: RE: The defense is getting scorched...  
Jerz44 : 9/8/2019 6:48 pm : link
In comment 14565456 WillVAB said:
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In comment 14565415 Jerz44 said:


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In comment 14565408 Gary JC said:


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...and people are talking about Manning. You young guys are entertaining.



I get your point, but a better O protects this defense a bit more. I love Eli but all he can do is check down and hand off now.



Eli has played fine. This defense is fucking terrible.


Disagree. Jones would have ran for a first down where eli only got 7 yards. Jones also probably could have ran it in for a TD on that 4th by the goaline. Eli hit one nice 43 yarder and has been throwing it short the rest of the game.
RE: 3rd and 17  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 6:48 pm : link
In comment 14565466 Anakim said:
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Go for the short pass. Trot out the Punter


hey getting the completion % up
RE: RE: RE: The defense is getting scorched...  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 6:48 pm : link
In comment 14565456 WillVAB said:
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...and people are talking about Manning. You young guys are entertaining.



I get your point, but a better O protects this defense a bit more. I love Eli but all he can do is check down and hand off now.



Eli has played fine. This defense is fucking terrible.

Eli hasn't played very well either, but he's the least of their problems.
RE: RE: The defense is getting scorched...  
short lease : 9/8/2019 6:48 pm : link
In comment 14565415 Jerz44 said:
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In comment 14565408 Gary JC said:


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...and people are talking about Manning. You young guys are entertaining.



I get your point, but a better O protects this defense a bit more. I love Eli but all he can do is check down and hand off now.


You are right sir ... and I am going to say it again NO PASS RUSH at all.
RE: RE: RE: The defense is getting scorched...  
Dutch77 : 9/8/2019 6:48 pm : link
In comment 14565456 WillVAB said:
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...and people are talking about Manning. You young guys are entertaining.



I get your point, but a better O protects this defense a bit more. I love Eli but all he can do is check down and hand off now.



Eli has played fine. This defense is fucking terrible.

What game are you watching.
I  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 6:48 pm : link
thought Dallas would win handily be controlling the lines of scrimmage, but this is beyond anything I expected.
Jones needs to start next week  
Rflairr : 9/8/2019 6:48 pm : link
We can’t score with Eli.
RE: What  
BillKo : 9/8/2019 6:48 pm : link
In comment 14565450 AcidTest said:
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is the point of playing Barkley now and risking injury?


C'mon...seriously?
Good god  
Leg of Theismann : 9/8/2019 6:48 pm : link
This team sucks
It's like a preseason game.  
NoPeanutz : 9/8/2019 6:48 pm : link
Final score doesn't matter anymore.
RE: RE: RE: The defense is getting scorched...  
family progtitioner : 9/8/2019 6:48 pm : link
In comment 14565456 WillVAB said:
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...and people are talking about Manning. You young guys are entertaining.



I get your point, but a better O protects this defense a bit more. I love Eli but all he can do is check down and hand off now.



Eli has played fine. This defense is fucking terrible.


They have 10 points. How has anything on offense been fine?
Defense give up a td every drive  
GiantsRage2007 : 9/8/2019 6:48 pm : link
Offense throws 3 yard passes on 3rd and 17.

Your 2019 NY Giants.
can you imagine what is going in the heads  
mdc1 : 9/8/2019 6:49 pm : link
of our defensive team members right now? Keystone cop moves aside, this does not help their confidence moving forward. 15 games left.. Shurmer really needs to stop being a nice guy after this shit show.
At least we have an adult coaching this team  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:49 pm : link
.
RE: No checkdowns here.....  
mikeinbloomfield : 9/8/2019 6:49 pm : link
In comment 14565462 Simms11 said:
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How about a slant?


Used to have a guy here that was pretty good at that.
Not good enough  
Thegratefulhead : 9/8/2019 6:49 pm : link
I'm sorry it just isn't good enough we're going to fight about it but it's obvious.
This obsession with  
redwhiteandbigblue : 9/8/2019 6:49 pm : link
the anti Eli crowd is getting tiresome. Are you sure you are watching the Giants game? This is 100% on the defense. Poor game plan, inexperienced players, etc. etc. etc. So let's put Jones in and that will correct the defense. Oh and what better way to ruin a rookie qb's career than put him in at a time when one of the best teams in the league is winning handily and will just pin their ears back and be drooling to decapitate the rookie. Perfect example was David Carr. Give me a break.
who is 17 and  
bigblue18 : 9/8/2019 6:49 pm : link
who gave him plaxico #
The blocker..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 6:49 pm : link
hits the returner first!
This team is dumb.  
Mr. Bungle : 9/8/2019 6:49 pm : link
Reflection of the head coach.
RE: What  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 6:49 pm : link
In comment 14565450 AcidTest said:
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is the point of playing Barkley now and risking injury?


yeah... I agree. We should save him for the playoffs.
not a single call  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 6:50 pm : link
went our way where it could have gone either way.
love the Eli hate  
GIANTS128 : 9/8/2019 6:50 pm : link
defense cant stop a swarm of grandmothers...but Eli is the problem...SMH
RE: 15 years in the NFL  
Chris684 : 9/8/2019 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14565468 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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can't complete a pass to the HB in the swing.


You are a moron.
...  
26.2 : 9/8/2019 6:50 pm : link
First time in a while I’ve turned the game off in the 3rd quarter. I get we’re young on defense but we’re hot garbage.
There's  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 6:50 pm : link
nothing Eli or anyone can do now. The game is over. The lack of pass rush is what killed us. But Eli's lack of mobility is a problem. He still has the arm, the ability to read defenses, and more than enough accuracy to be successful. But his lack of movement is apparent.
RE: RE: The defense is getting scorched...  
Bleedin Blue : 9/8/2019 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14565415 Jerz44 said:
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...and people are talking about Manning. You young guys are entertaining.



I get your point, but a better O protects this defense a bit more. I love Eli but all he can do is check down and hand off now.


A betterO? They’re getting royaly F$&Ked by the refs, the play calling is questionable, you give your best player 11 touches into the fourth qtr??
The defense sucks and no offense will make them better!
1st and 20 and not 1 ball  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 9/8/2019 6:50 pm : link
Thrown downfield.

Is that coaching too?
Watch that kick again  
SteelGiant : 9/8/2019 6:50 pm : link
His own player's butt hit the returner
RE: At least we have an adult coaching this team  
mikeinbloomfield : 9/8/2019 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14565491 Anakim said:
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We lead the league in culture! Wins, not so much.
Lets hope  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 6:50 pm : link
Baker is not as terrible as he looks. Beat all day.
RE: This obsession with  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14565494 redwhiteandbigblue said:
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the anti Eli crowd is getting tiresome. Are you sure you are watching the Giants game? This is 100% on the defense. Poor game plan, inexperienced players, etc. etc. etc. So let's put Jones in and that will correct the defense. Oh and what better way to ruin a rookie qb's career than put him in at a time when one of the best teams in the league is winning handily and will just pin their ears back and be drooling to decapitate the rookie. Perfect example was David Carr. Give me a break.


Very few are suggesting that Jones should go in for an improvement at QB. They're saying that this is garbage time and a perfect opportunity for him to get some experience.

Meanwhile - the offense generated a whopping 10 points thus far. The D has absolutely sucked, but let's not gloss over how poorly the offense has fared today.
RE: Baker  
cokeduplt : 9/8/2019 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14565445 AcidTest said:
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will get better. He's a rookie, up against one of the better WRs in the NFL in Cooper, and there is no pass rush.

I do agree that we should play Connelly and Ballentine more.


Well he couldn’t get worse so ....
this is a complete disaster  
JerrysKids : 9/8/2019 6:50 pm : link
the score does matter, the will to fight does matter.
RE: RE: RE: RE: The defense is getting scorched...  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14565480 Dutch77 said:
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...and people are talking about Manning. You young guys are entertaining.



I get your point, but a better O protects this defense a bit more. I love Eli but all he can do is check down and hand off now.



Eli has played fine. This defense is fucking terrible.


What game are you watching.


In what world is his play fine. Yes the defense has been horrible. But Eli isn't getting the job done, sure he had few nice plays. But the rest has been lackluster
RE: The blocker..  
bubba0825 : 9/8/2019 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14565496 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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hits the returner first!


Ya wtf, to he Dallas guy knocked his team mate.
RE: RE: What  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 6:51 pm : link
In comment 14565483 BillKo said:
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is the point of playing Barkley now and risking injury?



C'mon...seriously?


The game is over. Put in Gallman.
The team is going nowhere this season  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 6:51 pm : link
and because it's going nowhere, Eli shouldn't be on the field. Sorry, thanks for the Superbowls, but as we have a somewhat functional Oline, have Jones take his rookie lumps. Get a high draft pick, get a pass rusher and build the team up.
RE: love the Eli hate  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 6:51 pm : link
In comment 14565500 GIANTS128 said:
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defense cant stop a swarm of grandmothers...but Eli is the problem...SMH


exactly...
How about that 3rd down play?  
RDJR : 9/8/2019 6:51 pm : link
A 8 yard pass on 3rd and 17 down by 25 points.
Way too many  
Thegratefulhead : 9/8/2019 6:51 pm : link
Are being thrown that have no chance of going for a first down. these are throws that are happening when we absolutely need a first down. It isn't good enough.stop
RE: RE: What  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 6:51 pm : link
In comment 14565498 EricJ said:
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is the point of playing Barkley now and risking injury?



yeah... I agree. We should save him for the playoffs.


Commit and go all the way. Be ready to roll him out in 2022:

Really looked like 17 didn't impede  
Eman11 : 9/8/2019 6:51 pm : link
But the Cowboy blocking him was the one who made the most contact with the punt returner trying to make the catch.
RE: The blocker..  
KeoweeFan : 9/8/2019 6:51 pm : link
In comment 14565496 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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hits the returner first!

YES!!
Add that to the list.
RE: Defense give up a td every drive  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 6:51 pm : link
In comment 14565488 GiantsRage2007 said:
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Offense throws 3 yard passes on 3rd and 17.

Your 2019 NY Giants.


LMAO post of the night
RE: We're a 1-man offense  
gmenatlarge : 9/8/2019 6:51 pm : link
In comment 14565432 Ken Yadiggit said:
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And he's touched the ball 11 times in 3 quarters...

Genius.


It’s just pathetic, it was like they were afraid to use SB again after the big run. The offense looks like they were in desperation mode from the get-go.
Good thing we cut Alonzo for  
KerrysFlask : 9/8/2019 6:51 pm : link
This Core fuckup.

He wasn't pushed into anyone. If anything Core did the pushing.
RE: RE: This obsession with  
RDJR : 9/8/2019 6:51 pm : link
In comment 14565510 jcn56 said:
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the anti Eli crowd is getting tiresome. Are you sure you are watching the Giants game? This is 100% on the defense. Poor game plan, inexperienced players, etc. etc. etc. So let's put Jones in and that will correct the defense. Oh and what better way to ruin a rookie qb's career than put him in at a time when one of the best teams in the league is winning handily and will just pin their ears back and be drooling to decapitate the rookie. Perfect example was David Carr. Give me a break.



Very few are suggesting that Jones should go in for an improvement at QB. They're saying that this is garbage time and a perfect opportunity for him to get some experience.

Meanwhile - the offense generated a whopping 10 points thus far. The D has absolutely sucked, but let's not gloss over how poorly the offense has fared today.


This.
What happened to these games vs them always being  
micky : 9/8/2019 6:51 pm : link
Close? Lol
Although the reffing hasn't lost us this game  
Blue Ninja : 9/8/2019 6:51 pm : link
I don't remember as one sided officiated game as this. Really bad job.
RE: RE: RE: The defense is getting scorched...  
Gary JC : 9/8/2019 6:51 pm : link
In comment 14565479 short lease said:
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...and people are talking about Manning. You young guys are entertaining.



I get your point, but a better O protects this defense a bit more. I love Eli but all he can do is check down and hand off now.



You are right sir ... and I am going to say it again NO PASS RUSH at all.


The Cowboys will have 600 yards when the game is over and I'm reading how Jones will save them... the same crowd, mind you, that went crazy when the kid was selected. But, let's blame Manning because we really don't know how else to vent.
RE: can you imagine what is going in the heads  
nzyme : 9/8/2019 6:51 pm : link
In comment 14565490 mdc1 said:
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of our defensive team members right now? Keystone cop moves aside, this does not help their confidence moving forward. 15 games left.. Shurmer really needs to stop being a nice guy after this shit show.


Excellent point and that's where the seed of Shurmur's demise will start if he doesn't pick up his game and this team!!
We suck...but some typical Dallas calls  
Rong5611 : 9/8/2019 6:52 pm : link
We all they always get the calls, but tackling a receiver in the end zone and it not being PI is a joke.
Core  
Marty866b : 9/8/2019 6:52 pm : link
Another Gettleman beauty. He has built some team. Hard to fathom that last year's team might have been better.
RE: The team is going nowhere this season  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 6:52 pm : link
In comment 14565516 bigbluescot said:
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and because it's going nowhere, Eli shouldn't be on the field. Sorry, thanks for the Superbowls, but as we have a somewhat functional Oline, have Jones take his rookie lumps. Get a high draft pick, get a pass rusher and build the team up.


fire DG and hire this guy!
We would lose regardless  
greek13 : 9/8/2019 6:52 pm : link
But I wish shurmur could get fined for red zone play calling
Eli was Eli
Nothing better or worse than expected
Defense and non- use of 26 is disappointing
Eli penny on 3/1 is amateurish call
Literally unforgivable
Has anyone seen the TDs Dak has thrown????????????  
GIANTS128 : 9/8/2019 6:52 pm : link
I me mean jesus I could have thrown for 3 of them....
Just stop with the Jones thing already...  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 6:52 pm : link
there is NO WAY we were putting the kid in, on the road and against this defense today. It was NOT happening.

No head coach in the league would have started him today.
3rd and 17 and Eli continues to check down  
The_Boss : 9/8/2019 6:52 pm : link
You’re down 35-10. What the fuck. Is your arm THAT shot?
Daniel Jones chant will start before kick off next week.  
latichever : 9/8/2019 6:52 pm : link
.
The blocker..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 6:53 pm : link
initiated contact just a couple yards in front of the returner.

That's supposed to nullify the penalty, but we are talking about a game where tackling a WR is OK
Undefeated in the pre season  
thrunthrublue : 9/8/2019 6:53 pm : link
Is what shurmer is proud of.......but it’s usually a bad omen. They should look at the LSU oc.......and clean house, use the upcoming draft picks to acquire some game changing pass rushers, all new coaching staff, full stop.
RE: Daniel Jones chant will start before kick off next week.  
BigBlue2007 : 9/8/2019 6:53 pm : link
In comment 14565545 latichever said:
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Daniel Jones isn't going to help this helpless D.
RE: 3rd and 17 and Eli continues to check down  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 6:53 pm : link
In comment 14565544 The_Boss said:
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You’re down 35-10. What the fuck. Is your arm THAT shot?


Do you know what a check down is and why it happens? You know... when the defense takes away the deeper WRs and leaves you with the check down options?

He forces the ball down field, it gets picked off... and then Eli sucks again right?
RE: RE: RE: RE: good thing  
HomerJones45 : 9/8/2019 6:53 pm : link
In comment 14565397 jgambrosio said:
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Gettleman kept guys like Ogletree and Eli on this team at their respective cap numbers to help the "culture" of the team.

And while the offensive line has been patched together to be an OK starting 5 this year, the Giants are going to have big time offensive line issues again soon. Solder is on the wrong side of 30, Remmers is always injured.

This organization is a complete mess. If Jones is the real deal he'll mask a lot of issues down the road. Woof



No QB can cover up for this kind of defense. Even Brady would have trouble


Or the waiver wire receivers.



How have our receivers been the problem today? Our issue was Eli making bad decisions and the worst defensive performance we've seen in years.
they are as a group, slow and don’t get any separation. They don’t get open and none need double teaming. They can be played man up. There is no margin for error with these guys.

This is what it looks like when receivers are bad. The defense compresses the offense
RE: Daniel Jones chant will start before kick off next week.  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 6:54 pm : link
In comment 14565545 latichever said:
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We will win next week. Book it now
Absolutely  
crick n NC : 9/8/2019 6:54 pm : link
Brutal
RE: The blocker..  
Earl the goat : 9/8/2019 6:54 pm : link
In comment 14565547 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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initiated contact just a couple yards in front of the returner.

That's supposed to nullify the penalty, but we are talking about a game where tackling a WR is OK



You watching Brissett at all
Ballantine is out there!  
SteelGiant : 9/8/2019 6:54 pm : link
Love the timing of these in game adjustments
RE: RE: RE: RE: The defense is getting scorched...  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 6:54 pm : link
In comment 14565534 Gary JC said:
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...and people are talking about Manning. You young guys are entertaining.



I get your point, but a better O protects this defense a bit more. I love Eli but all he can do is check down and hand off now.



You are right sir ... and I am going to say it again NO PASS RUSH at all.



The Cowboys will have 600 yards when the game is over and I'm reading how Jones will save them... the same crowd, mind you, that went crazy when the kid was selected. But, let's blame Manning because we really don't know how else to vent.


Jones won't save them, no one is suggesting that. But Jones needs experience and since we've already lost and the game is gone, he should be playing.
RE: Has anyone seen the TDs Dak has thrown????????????  
cokeduplt : 9/8/2019 6:54 pm : link
In comment 14565541 GIANTS128 said:
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I me mean jesus I could have thrown for 3 of them....



I’ve never seen so many wide receivers
RE: Just stop with the Jones thing already...  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 6:54 pm : link
In comment 14565542 EricJ said:
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there is NO WAY we were putting the kid in, on the road and against this defense today. It was NOT happening.

No head coach in the league would have started him today.


Started? Sure. Play the 4th quarter? I think a lot of coaches would have. No pressure.
RE: Just stop with the Jones thing already...  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 6:55 pm : link
In comment 14565542 EricJ said:
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there is NO WAY we were putting the kid in, on the road and against this defense today. It was NOT happening.

No head coach in the league would have started him today.


Why? Are they teeing off on Eli?

Would Jones be in imminent risk for some reason?

Do you think his confidence would be shot because he'd lose a game they're already trailing by nearly 30 points?
RE: RE: Daniel Jones chant will start before kick off next week.  
family progtitioner : 9/8/2019 6:55 pm : link
In comment 14565554 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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We will win next week. Book it now


The Buffalo D is for real. They'll be lucky to score 17.
RE: This obsession with  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 6:55 pm : link
In comment 14565494 redwhiteandbigblue said:
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the anti Eli crowd is getting tiresome. Are you sure you are watching the Giants game? This is 100% on the defense. Poor game plan, inexperienced players, etc. etc. etc. So let's put Jones in and that will correct the defense. Oh and what better way to ruin a rookie qb's career than put him in at a time when one of the best teams in the league is winning handily and will just pin their ears back and be drooling to decapitate the rookie. Perfect example was David Carr. Give me a break.

Stats or watching the game doesn't matter tothem.
plus'  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 6:55 pm : link
No picks and no sacks allowed. Barkley was Barkley. Aikman and his little plugger look at least a year older.
RE: RE: 3rd and 17 and Eli continues to check down  
Gary JC : 9/8/2019 6:55 pm : link
In comment 14565552 EricJ said:
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You’re down 35-10. What the fuck. Is your arm THAT shot?



Do you know what a check down is and why it happens? You know... when the defense takes away the deeper WRs and leaves you with the check down options?

He forces the ball down field, it gets picked off... and then Eli sucks again right?


+ 10
RE: RE: Daniel Jones chant will start before kick off next week.  
latichever : 9/8/2019 6:55 pm : link
In comment 14565551 BigBlue2007 said:
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In comment 14565545 latichever said:


I agree with that.

But the future starts now.


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Daniel Jones isn't going to help this helpless D.
Barkley has  
kes722 : 9/8/2019 6:55 pm : link
10 Carrie's.... 107 yards 10.7 ypc why does he not have 20 carries?
RE: RE: Daniel Jones chant will start before kick off next week.  
mikeinbloomfield : 9/8/2019 6:55 pm : link
In comment 14565554 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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We will win next week. Book it now



Going out on a limb with them playing Buffalo, aren’t ya.
RE: Offensive PI for blocking  
BlueLou'sBack : 9/8/2019 6:55 pm : link
In comment 14565429 yalebowl said:
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But not defensive holding in the end zone by tackling the receiver


Wrong no call vs the Boys, but we can hardly blame officiating when their wideouts are running wide open deep downfield and despite rushing 6 the Giants D exerts zero pass rush.

Yes the play calling has been well off the mark, but when your D sucks billiard balls, it's hard to win in this league. Play the kids on D and let them learn on the job.
Stopped 'em!  
jhibb : 9/8/2019 6:56 pm : link
Woohoo!!!
Wish someone would rip the ring  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 6:56 pm : link
out of the ugly fucking ewok's nose.
I'd need to rewatch the film,  
GiantFanInTX : 9/8/2019 6:56 pm : link
but why is it that every time we have a free blitzer the opposing QBs are so easily finding the hot read, but for us it is NEVER found. Is it a coverage issue?
How the F can Dallas sign all those players  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:56 pm : link
under the cap? That’s impossible!

I’m sick thinking about facing this team for next 4 years with these players signed.
.  
GiantEgo : 9/8/2019 6:56 pm : link
Grace period is over for Bettcher his unit looks poorly coached.
Can’t make a case  
gmenatlarge : 9/8/2019 6:56 pm : link
For one player on this defense today, pretty much awful across the board.
Is Daniel Jones playing defense???  
GIANTS128 : 9/8/2019 6:56 pm : link
if not please STHFU
Dak  
GRBlue : 9/8/2019 6:57 pm : link
With 10 left in the 4th, has a PERFECT QB rating.

You’re out to lunch if you think this game is a reflection of anyone on offense.
RE: RE: 3rd and 17 and Eli continues to check down  
The_Boss : 9/8/2019 6:57 pm : link
In comment 14565552 EricJ said:
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In comment 14565544 The_Boss said:


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You’re down 35-10. What the fuck. Is your arm THAT shot?



Do you know what a check down is and why it happens? You know... when the defense takes away the deeper WRs and leaves you with the check down options?

He forces the ball down field, it gets picked off... and then Eli sucks again right?


Take a fucking chance...it’s 35-10...thanks for the education, coach.
That wide open TD throw to Cooper  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 6:57 pm : link
Was Eli's fault. -bbi
RE: RE: RE: 3rd and 17 and Eli continues to check down  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 6:57 pm : link
In comment 14565569 Gary JC said:
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You’re down 35-10. What the fuck. Is your arm THAT shot?



Do you know what a check down is and why it happens? You know... when the defense takes away the deeper WRs and leaves you with the check down options?

He forces the ball down field, it gets picked off... and then Eli sucks again right?



+ 10

+ 20
Simpletons  
mrvax : 9/8/2019 6:57 pm : link
always cry for the backup QB when a team sucks. Like a magic trick that will salvage the whole team.

Let's wait until the end of October when they are eliminated.
This defense  
DavidinBMNY : 9/8/2019 6:57 pm : link
Is worse then expected. Ouch.
That Rudy KFC commercial just saved the day  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 6:57 pm : link
Its kind of a wash now. Im good.
RE: RE: Just stop with the Jones thing already...  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 6:58 pm : link
In comment 14565565 jcn56 said:
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Why? Are they teeing off on Eli?

Would Jones be in imminent risk for some reason?

Do you think his confidence would be shot because he'd lose a game they're already trailing by nearly 30 points?


I was talking about the idea of starting Jones today... not bringing him in in the 4th QTR.

In fact, if we score no points on this drive, I am fine with bringing him in for the balance of the game.

The truth is that Shurmur wont do that because IF Jones throws one TD pass, it then creates a larger QB controversy. Yeah.. sounds fucked up doesn't it?
This game turned out to be  
Dave on the UWS : 9/8/2019 6:58 pm : link
a measuring stick after all. They’ve got a LOOONG way to go. If they are unable to handle Buffalo next week, then the Jones era will start sooner rather than later.
RE: Barkley has  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 6:58 pm : link
In comment 14565572 kes722 said:
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10 Carrie's.... 107 yards 10.7 ypc why does he not have 20 carries?


Probably because we can’t get the offense back on the field.
RE: Dak  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 6:58 pm : link
In comment 14565591 GRBlue said:
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With 10 left in the 4th, has a PERFECT QB rating.

You’re out to lunch if you think this game is a reflection of anyone on offense.


How much football have you watched in your life to not comprehend that both the offense and defense can suck in the same game?

Shit, if you'd never watched a game this one alone should have given you that lesson.
RE: Simpletons  
Blue Ninja : 9/8/2019 6:58 pm : link
In comment 14565596 mrvax said:
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always cry for the backup QB when a team sucks. Like a magic trick that will salvage the whole team.

Let's wait until the end of October when they are eliminated.


It's more about getting guys a look. Same reason why Ballentine and McIntosh were in the game
RE: I'd need to rewatch the film,  
crick n NC : 9/8/2019 6:58 pm : link
In comment 14565581 GiantFanInTX said:
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but why is it that every time we have a free blitzer the opposing QBs are so easily finding the hot read, but for us it is NEVER found. Is it a coverage issue?


And you think you'll get your answer just because you "watch film"?
RE: Is Daniel Jones playing defense???  
RDJR : 9/8/2019 6:58 pm : link
In comment 14565590 GIANTS128 said:
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if not please STHFU


It’s mop up time. He should get some snaps.
RE: That Rudy KFC commercial just saved the day  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 6:59 pm : link
In comment 14565599 j_rud said:
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Its kind of a wash now. Im good.

But the Boy Band mobile phone commercial cancels that out
I  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 6:59 pm : link
assume people are sniping because they are understandably frustrated. This game is 90% on the defense.
Might as well put DJ in  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:59 pm : link
Get him his first game action. The game is over.
RE: Dak  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 6:59 pm : link
In comment 14565591 GRBlue said:
Quote:
With 10 left in the 4th, has a PERFECT QB rating.

You’re out to lunch if you think this game is a reflection of anyone on offense.


35-10. Plenty of blame to go around in a loss like this. I think you'd have a point if it were 35-21 or something.
holding giants  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 7:00 pm : link
whatever
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 7:00 pm : link
My mind is actually pretty changed on Manning. I thought he was just functional, but he looks pretty ok to good.

Too bad it's going to end like this, on an obviously outmatched team. This team needs a lot of time and help.
RE: RE: Barkley has  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 7:00 pm : link
In comment 14565603 Simms11 said:
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In comment 14565572 kes722 said:


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10 Carrie's.... 107 yards 10.7 ypc why does he not have 20 carries?



Probably because we can’t get the offense back on the field.


When they ARE on offense they just throw it around.
all im saying...  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 7:00 pm : link
they are lucky this first game wasn't at home

3-17 check down down 25....the fans would be calling for eli's head
The dump off king rides again  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 7:00 pm : link
.
As far as a team that building toward something  
bubba0825 : 9/8/2019 7:01 pm : link
We still look lost with little direction, poorly coached that is outmanned
Barkley  
brookeny : 9/8/2019 7:01 pm : link
A smart coach sits him at this point...
Tackled Barkley out of bounds.  
Mr. Bungle : 9/8/2019 7:01 pm : link
No flag.
I  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 7:01 pm : link
don't see this game as a measuring stick despite the lopsided nature of the loss.

Dallas is a legitimate SB contender. We have no pass rush. We also have a lot of rookies in the secondary. Eli is also largely immobile.
Now at this point Eli should not be in the game.  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 7:01 pm : link
Perfect opportunity to get Jones some experience here. I don't know why Eli is still in.
The Pope  
LeftHook : 9/8/2019 7:01 pm : link
Is going to have field day tomorrow, lol
Eli and short throws, smh since forever  
ChaChing : 9/8/2019 7:01 pm : link
Doesn't matter today of course atm just amazing how bad he's been at something that are relatively easier throws

That one to SB, the should have been wheel route he chucked at his leg, the screen a drive or 2 ago w/ SB behind the LOS. Hell even that SB catch right there...

I'm sure I'll still get killed for saying it but it's long been the case
Putting in Jones is NOT about this game....  
nzyme : 9/8/2019 7:01 pm : link
It's about getting Jones reps in the regular season against a first team NFL defense.
hahaha  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 7:01 pm : link
checkdowns galore!
This is pitiful  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 7:01 pm : link
.
10 points  
Rflairr : 9/8/2019 7:02 pm : link
7 on the first drive.
No reason for Barkley to still be in the game  
Breeze_94 : 9/8/2019 7:02 pm : link
time to take him out
RE: Barkley  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 7:02 pm : link
In comment 14565628 brookeny said:
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A smart coach sits him at this point...


Indeed. If you weren't going to play Barkley when the game was in doubt, don't waste him now. Save him for next week.

I don't like Shurmur's decision making here.
Rome wasn’t built in a day  
PhilSimms15 : 9/8/2019 7:02 pm : link
The big question is whether the Giants have the right GM to draft right and manage the cap appropriately and the coach to lead the team out of the wilderness.

I don’t see it.

Both hires where extremely conservative and it’s unclear whether either guys can rebuild this team appropriately. Clearly, DG has thus far build a horrendous defense and Shurmur’s play calling is uninspired.

Going to be a long season.


RE: love the Eli hate  
Dutch77 : 9/8/2019 7:02 pm : link
In comment 14565500 GIANTS128 said:
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defense cant stop a swarm of grandmothers...but Eli is the problem...SMH

We know the defense is bad but what Eli’s excuse now. Smh. He can’t average more than a TD per game.
get used to seeing things like these on the ESPN Gamecast  
santacruzom : 9/8/2019 7:02 pm : link
LAST PLAY: 3rd & 14 at NYG 21
(8:37) (Shotgun) E.Manning pass short middle to S.Barkley to NYG 22 for 1 yard (L.Vander Esch).
Vomit  
Thegratefulhead : 9/8/2019 7:02 pm : link
These 2 yard passes aren't making you sick?
Really enjoying watching all these 3 yard checkdowns  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 7:03 pm : link
Yeah yeah defense sucks blah blah blah but if you think Eli has played well or even average today watch some more NFL games and see what a QB who throws the ball down the field and/or can actually move can do
These 1-3 yard passes are just garbage.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 7:03 pm : link
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RE: I  
gmenatlarge : 9/8/2019 7:03 pm : link
In comment 14565613 AcidTest said:
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assume people are sniping because they are understandably frustrated. This game is 90% on the defense.


BS, this offense has had ample opportunities to make it a game and failed miserably, I’d say 60/40 on the D.
RE: I  
RDJR : 9/8/2019 7:03 pm : link
In comment 14565613 AcidTest said:
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assume people are sniping because they are understandably frustrated. This game is 90% on the defense.


10 points isn’t going to win many games in any league.
RE: No reason for Barkley to still be in the game  
LeftHook : 9/8/2019 7:03 pm : link
In comment 14565641 Breeze_94 said:
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time to take him out
Yea why waste him, and his 10 carries. lol
We might be in the running  
GiantsRage2007 : 9/8/2019 7:03 pm : link
For the #1 pick. Top 3 anyway...

Any good DE coming out?
RE: Rome wasn’t built in a day  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 7:03 pm : link
In comment 14565645 PhilSimms15 said:
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The big question is whether the Giants have the right GM to draft right and manage the cap appropriately and the coach to lead the team out of the wilderness.

I don’t see it.

Both hires where extremely conservative and it’s unclear whether either guys can rebuild this team appropriately. Clearly, DG has thus far build a horrendous defense and Shurmur’s play calling is uninspired.

Going to be a long season.



Right now, Barkley should be out of the game and Jones should be in. I don't understand Shurmur's thinking.
RE: This defense  
Eman11 : 9/8/2019 7:03 pm : link
In comment 14565598 DavidinBMNY said:
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Is worse then expected. Ouch.


Yep.

I know we're out talented but the coaching has left a hell of a lot to be desired. On both sides of the ball.
RE: RE: Dak  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 7:03 pm : link
In comment 14565604 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14565591 GRBlue said:


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With 10 left in the 4th, has a PERFECT QB rating.

You’re out to lunch if you think this game is a reflection of anyone on offense.



How much football have you watched in your life to not comprehend that both the offense and defense can suck in the same game?

Shit, if you'd never watched a game this one alone should have given you that lesson.


Yep exactly, really stupid take by that guy not to blame the offense. Both units stunk today and that's why its 35-10. If it was 35-24 or something like that, then you could make a claim like that
This is a nightmare!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 7:03 pm : link
I thought we’d be more competitive then this today.
RE: The dump off king rides again  
Toth029 : 9/8/2019 7:04 pm : link
In comment 14565626 bigbluescot said:
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Where does he throw with the ends in his face?
Postgame thread?  
NoPeanutz : 9/8/2019 7:04 pm : link
.
Eli  
Thegratefulhead : 9/8/2019 7:04 pm : link
Something is wrong.
RE: We might be in the running  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 7:04 pm : link
In comment 14565656 GiantsRage2007 said:
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For the #1 pick. Top 3 anyway...

Any good DE coming out?


Miami has probably already clinched the 1st pick in the draft. We'll probably pick top 5.
RE: Barkley  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 7:04 pm : link
In comment 14565628 brookeny said:
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A smart coach sits him at this point...


Agree I would take Barkley out this game is over .
Why get him hurt trying to make something out
of nothing .
RE: RE: Barkley  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 7:04 pm : link
In comment 14565642 FStubbs said:
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Indeed. If you weren't going to play Barkley when the game was in doubt, don't waste him now. Save him for next week.

I don't like Shurmur's decision making here.


I understand what you are saying and get your point. However, a coach cannot tell his team to play a full four quarters and to never give up... then bench his best player signalling that he has given up.

We have spoken about how players have quit on the team in the 4th qtr in prior years. Remember? We cannot have that poison reoccur.
RE: RE: RE: 3rd and 17 and Eli continues to check down  
Dutch77 : 9/8/2019 7:04 pm : link
In comment 14565569 Gary JC said:
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In comment 14565552 EricJ said:


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In comment 14565544 The_Boss said:


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You’re down 35-10. What the fuck. Is your arm THAT shot?



Do you know what a check down is and why it happens? You know... when the defense takes away the deeper WRs and leaves you with the check down options?

He forces the ball down field, it gets picked off... and then Eli sucks again right?



+ 10


Since it’s never Eli’s fault why the offense can’t score more WTF is he on the team. Sick of Eli Manning is above criticism shit.
RE: RE: Rome wasn’t built in a day  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 7:04 pm : link
In comment 14565658 FStubbs said:
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Right now, Barkley should be out of the game and Jones should be in. I don't understand Shurmur's thinking.


Putting Jones in is probably a "group decision" with Mara.
RE: RE: I  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 7:04 pm : link
In comment 14565652 gmenatlarge said:
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In comment 14565613 AcidTest said:


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assume people are sniping because they are understandably frustrated. This game is 90% on the defense.



BS, this offense has had ample opportunities to make it a game and failed miserably, I’d say 60/40 on the D.


Yep, people just finding ways not to blame Eli. Pitiful. Awful football all around
RE: ...  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 7:05 pm : link
In comment 14565620 christian said:
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My mind is actually pretty changed on Manning. I thought he was just functional, but he looks pretty ok to good.

Too bad it's going to end like this, on an obviously outmatched team. This team needs a lot of time and help.


The best favor anyone could do Manning would be to trade him to Jax at this point. A contender, with enough on offense for him to produce and a defense capable of holding leads.

Here, he's going to be in the middle of a shitstorm almost entirely not of his doing (he's overpaid relative to his performance, but not much he can do about that).

I'd rather see the guy go and possibly win another one somewhere else than watch what I think is coming, an ugly losing campaign that he won't be able to prevent.
Can we fire the owner?  
Marty866b : 9/8/2019 7:05 pm : link
This is the shitfest he has given us. The GM and coaching hires were his. This qb playing is because that's who he wants to play.
This is a poorly built team  
larryflower37 : 9/8/2019 7:05 pm : link
And will suffer for years to come.
RE: RE: We might be in the running  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 7:05 pm : link
In comment 14565667 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14565656 GiantsRage2007 said:


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For the #1 pick. Top 3 anyway...

Any good DE coming out?



Miami has probably already clinched the 1st pick in the draft. We'll probably pick top 5.


Give me Chase Young
I personally am not as mad  
Leg of Theismann : 9/8/2019 7:05 pm : link
As most about Barkley’s lack of touches. On the 3rd and 4th and short in the red zone yeah that was a bad call not to use him, but in general it seems more like he’s not being used because 1) the offense can’t convert a 3rd and manageable all day and 2) we’ve got dig into a 2 TD deficit hole in the first half.

Just because he’s averaging 10 yards per touch doesn’t mean you give it to him 10 more times and he automatically gets you another 100 yards. If you give it to him every single play the defense starts to catch on, not to mention you’re not going to pick up first downs running the ball on 3rd and medium. Barkley can’t do it all himself and Just giving him the ball another 10 times would not have come anywhere close to winning us this game.
Man this game sucks  
GiantSteps : 9/8/2019 7:05 pm : link
but I really think not having Golden Tate is killing us, our defense can't make a play, and the officiating has been...slanted. I don't think we're as bad as some people are saying, at least on the offense side of the ball.
Eli’s check downs and short passes  
yalebowl : 9/8/2019 7:05 pm : link
Dallas are only rushing four. Dallas is dropping seven to cover three WRs and a TE. Leaving the Giant RB open as a checkdown.
RE: RE: We might be in the running  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 7:05 pm : link
In comment 14565667 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14565656 GiantsRage2007 said:


Quote:


For the #1 pick. Top 3 anyway...

Any good DE coming out?



Miami has probably already clinched the 1st pick in the draft. We'll probably pick top 5.


We’ll need another good draft to make this Defense more competitive
RE: RE: RE: Barkley  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 7:05 pm : link
In comment 14565670 EricJ said:
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In comment 14565642 FStubbs said:


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Indeed. If you weren't going to play Barkley when the game was in doubt, don't waste him now. Save him for next week.

I don't like Shurmur's decision making here.



I understand what you are saying and get your point. However, a coach cannot tell his team to play a full four quarters and to never give up... then bench his best player signalling that he has given up.

We have spoken about how players have quit on the team in the 4th qtr in prior years. Remember? We cannot have that poison reoccur.


meanwhile.. just a few min left in the game and down 25. I suppose I could get behind that.
RE: Rome wasn’t built in a day  
santacruzom : 9/8/2019 7:05 pm : link
In comment 14565645 PhilSimms
Both hires where extremely conservative and it’s unclear whether either guys can rebuild this team appropriately. Clearly, DG has thus far build a horrendous defense and Shurmur’s play calling is uninspired.
[/quote]

I'm not sure about DG yet. He does seem to draft well.
It's still too premature to declare his picks outside of Barkley will be above average NFL starters, but it seems as though quite a few will be.

He just vacillates too much between "we are good enough to win now" and "this will take time, we're building a winning team" thing.
Reunite Eli with Coughlin. Foles is done  
latichever : 9/8/2019 7:06 pm : link
They need him.

Our future with Jones is now.
This is over  
Bill in UT : 9/8/2019 7:06 pm : link
They need to have DO moo mop up
Troy has been insufferable today.  
bceagle05 : 9/8/2019 7:06 pm : link
Three-hour blow job of Jerry Jones.
they wont put jones in because of god forbid he plays well  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 7:06 pm : link
it might cause a QB controversy . Who cares about jones getting some snaps and some experience we have to protect elis feelings at all costs
the cowboy's scoring so easily  
family progtitioner : 9/8/2019 7:06 pm : link
does take pressure off their D but 10 points is not excusable. Same old checkdowns, mistakes and penalties.
RE: This is a poorly built team  
mdc1 : 9/8/2019 7:06 pm : link
In comment 14565678 larryflower37 said:
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And will suffer for years to come.


this
This defense  
crick n NC : 9/8/2019 7:06 pm : link
Has been absolutely brutal
One more thing on the idea that Eli has no arm...  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 7:07 pm : link
if Eli truly had no ability to throw downfield, then the Cowboys would be GIVING us the deep pass while taking away the short stuff.
That's  
Bill in UT : 9/8/2019 7:07 pm : link
DJ
RE: RE: ...  
RDJR : 9/8/2019 7:07 pm : link
In comment 14565675 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14565620 christian said:


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My mind is actually pretty changed on Manning. I thought he was just functional, but he looks pretty ok to good.

Too bad it's going to end like this, on an obviously outmatched team. This team needs a lot of time and help.



The best favor anyone could do Manning would be to trade him to Jax at this point. A contender, with enough on offense for him to produce and a defense capable of holding leads.

Here, he's going to be in the middle of a shitstorm almost entirely not of his doing (he's overpaid relative to his performance, but not much he can do about that).

I'd rather see the guy go and possibly win another one somewhere else than watch what I think is coming, an ugly losing campaign that he won't be able to prevent.


He could have retired.
The buffalo bills scored 17 points with a trash can at Quarterback.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 7:07 pm : link
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What connelly does best  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 7:07 pm : link
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Gonna be a long year  
AnnapolisMike : 9/8/2019 7:07 pm : link
Dallas is going to be good...and So is Philly
Fucking Connelly  
LeftHook : 9/8/2019 7:07 pm : link
Wow
The defense stunk the first two games of 2007  
Bramton1 : 9/8/2019 7:07 pm : link
I know it's a stretch, but hoping the defense can figure something out in the next game or two.

Unbelievable.  
redwhiteandbigblue : 9/8/2019 7:08 pm : link
Let's get Jones killed because we put him in the middle of a feeding frenzy. How ridiculous.

His time will come but of all games this is not the time. Let's fix one thing at a time. How about a defensive coordinator that can come up with a game plan to cover up some of his team's obvious deficiencies. I saw absolutely no defensive adjustments made at halftime. The poster who identified Jackrabbitt was not being thrown at was exactly right so why is he not covering Cooper and help from the safeties to cover the other wr?
Put Jones in.  
Jerz44 : 9/8/2019 7:08 pm : link
If they look bad. Fire Shurmer too at the end of the year. He’s 5-12 and they haven’t looked remotely competitive. No reason to blow two seasons.
Connelly  
Toth029 : 9/8/2019 7:08 pm : link
Should play soon over Ogletree.
I don't think we're  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 7:08 pm : link
as bad as we look in this game, but we have a lot of work to do to get competitive in the NFL.
RE: Reunite Eli with Coughlin. Foles is done  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 7:08 pm : link
In comment 14565687 latichever said:
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They need him.

Our future with Jones is now.


That is an interesting idea - although the rookie Minshew was 22/25 with 2TD in relief.
Nice play Connely !  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 7:08 pm : link
knifed right in there
Connelly and Tae Davis need to start  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 7:08 pm : link
Ogletree can be a sideline captain. Fucking trash.
It's time to admit.. that Manning had a good career..and its  
buster : 9/8/2019 7:08 pm : link
now definitely the time.. The manner in which he operates out of the pocket is sad..Like he has the yips..Only thing he looks comfortable with is firing bullets at receivers 2-5 yards beyond the line of s..or even behind the line of Scrimmage.. At one time he had the ability to move around just a bit and save some plays... but today he just reminded me of an old guy just trying to survive...Sad
The Redskins scored 27 points against Philadelphia.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 7:08 pm : link
Nobody here would have said the Giants would be less capable than Buffalo or Washington.
That’s what we want to see.....  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 7:08 pm : link
Some development from these young guys... good play by Connelly
connely 5 yards in backfield  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 7:08 pm : link
ogletree 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage....enough said
RE: Troy has been insufferable today.  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 7:09 pm : link
In comment 14565689 bceagle05 said:
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Three-hour blow job of Jerry Jones.

Damn sex offender.
RE: I've actually been relatively positive about Shurmur  
Fritz : 9/8/2019 7:09 pm : link
In comment 14565426 bigbluescot said:
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but this has been an absolute joke in terms of calling this game.


Shurmur has been terrible today. If you just take the third and fourth and one plays where Barkley never touched the ball that cost this team points he has to take a hit. There’s a good reason why he’s a career loser
RE: Rome wasn’t built in a day  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 7:09 pm : link
In comment 14565645 PhilSimms15 said:
Quote:
The big question is whether the Giants have the right GM to draft right and manage the cap appropriately and the coach to lead the team out of the wilderness.

I don’t see it.

Both hires where extremely conservative and it’s unclear whether either guys can rebuild this team appropriately. Clearly, DG has thus far build a horrendous defense and Shurmur’s play calling is uninspired.

Going to be a long season.



^ this.

Way too many positions on this team seem bereft of talent. It's early yet, and maybe Dallas is a good enough opponent that they make them seem much worse.

But even on paper before the season started, looking at some of the units, not being able to find a credible #1 WR, a pass rusher, relying on guys like Ogletree and Peppers to come up big - you had to be expecting at least some disappointment. This doesn't seem like year 2 of a 3 year rebuild - it seems like something someone else is going to have to rebuild after this is deemed a failure.

Let's hope Jones is as advertised during the preseason otherwise this could be a real fucking disaster.
Put in Jones  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 7:09 pm : link
Freaking cowards
Eli will not go to JAX  
GiantSteps : 9/8/2019 7:09 pm : link
that discussion's been had as nauseum
I did expect the defense to give up a lot of points.  
DonnieD89 : 9/8/2019 7:09 pm : link
They are a young secondary and they haven’t played much together. The most important thing they need to address is the pass rush. It should be the top priority next year. It has been going on way to long.
RE: The defense stunk the first two games of 2007  
christian : 9/8/2019 7:09 pm : link
In comment 14565707 Bramton1 said:
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I know it's a stretch, but hoping the defense can figure something out in the next game or two.


The Giants won 19 games the previous 2 years, not 8.
I used to love watching sacks  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 7:09 pm : link
I really did.
I guess Giants just assume  
UberAlias : 9/8/2019 7:10 pm : link
There’ll be many more opportunities where we get blown out and can get Jones time.
Get Barkley out  
The_Boss : 9/8/2019 7:10 pm : link
Why keep him in down 25?
RE: I guess Giants just assume  
bubba0825 : 9/8/2019 7:10 pm : link
In comment 14565732 UberAlias said:
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There’ll be many more opportunities where we get blown out and can get Jones time.


Lol
RE: This is a poorly built team  
Rflairr : 9/8/2019 7:10 pm : link
In comment 14565678 larryflower37 said:
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And will suffer for years to come.


With a bad coaching staff. Great Combination.

Shurmur is and has always been an awful HC. Not sure why
Ownership, thought it would be different here
Why is Eli still playing?  
Larry from WV : 9/8/2019 7:10 pm : link
What is the purpose?
In a lot of way's you'd think putting Jones in  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 7:11 pm : link
would take a bit of heat off Shumur. If Jones comes in and does well in Shumur's system it's about the only chance Shumur has of keeping his job.
RE: Why is Eli still playing?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 7:11 pm : link
In comment 14565738 Larry from WV said:
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What is the purpose?


They're scared of the QB questions.
Jones  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 7:11 pm : link
Learning how Eli pads his stats in garbage time
Here comes the window dressing  
The_Boss : 9/8/2019 7:11 pm : link
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RE: Get Barkley out  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 7:11 pm : link
In comment 14565734 The_Boss said:
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Why keep him in down 25?


yeah I think now with 4 min to play it is time to pull him
RE: Why is Eli still playing?  
micky : 9/8/2019 7:11 pm : link
In comment 14565738 Larry from WV said:
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What is the purpose?


Stats..add on
RE: Reunite Eli with Coughlin. Foles is done  
ChaChing : 9/8/2019 7:11 pm : link
In comment 14565687 latichever said:
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They need him.

Our future with Jones is now.

Their rookie just went 22/25 w/ 2 TDs & a pick. Doesn't mean they don't need something as backup depending on who else is back there (Foles has a clavicle so is out for a bit). But 1 game or not they aren't itching for QB help from Eli, esp having to trade atm vs FA after the season
RE: Why is Eli still playing?  
Ned In Atlanta : 9/8/2019 7:12 pm : link
In comment 14565738 Larry from WV said:
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What is the purpose?


How anyone can justify Eli being the starting qb for this team going forward is beyond me
RE: Why is Eli still playing?  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 7:12 pm : link
In comment 14565738 Larry from WV said:
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What is the purpose?


if DJ leads a scoring drive...all the questions this week will about him playing...Shurmer is a mental midget with the media and doesn't want to deal with it
Gotta tidy up the completion percentage and yardage.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 7:12 pm : link
.
Jesus even the Buck and Aikman are nuts  
GiantSteps : 9/8/2019 7:12 pm : link
Eli's still not the problem. Ugh
Eli is killing us just as much as the D  
Rudy5757 : 9/8/2019 7:12 pm : link
Dink and dunk. short passes off target as usual
RE: RE: Why is Eli still playing?  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 7:13 pm : link
In comment 14565740 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14565738 Larry from WV said:


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What is the purpose?



They're scared of the QB questions.


If that's seriously the reason, fire Shurmur now. You don't make football decisions based on whether reporters might ask you annoying questions or not.
Nice  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 7:13 pm : link
Made the game a bit closer and stats were padded. Definitely worth it over letting Jones play.
This is bullshit  
Bill in UT : 9/8/2019 7:13 pm : link
That Eli is in. Someone should get fired
RE: Put in Jones  
Justlurking : 9/8/2019 7:13 pm : link
In comment 14565724 Nine-Tails said:
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Freaking cowards


no no no, eli has to pad his stats against the prevent defense so all the homers can say he played well.
Meaningless  
Thegratefulhead : 9/8/2019 7:13 pm : link
Drive
Glad eli can pad his stats n crunch time and put more points on  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 7:13 pm : link
the board so his box score will look better then how he actually played
The most shocking aspect of this game...  
nzyme : 9/8/2019 7:13 pm : link
Is that we weren't even competitive on either side of the ball...
RE: Jesus even the Buck and Aikman are nuts  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 7:13 pm : link
In comment 14565755 GiantSteps said:
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Eli's still not the problem. Ugh


Eli is A problem. He's not THE problem. The offense could still be pretty decent, but the defense is a dumpster fire.
RE: I did expect the defense to give up a lot of points.  
cokeduplt : 9/8/2019 7:13 pm : link
In comment 14565726 DonnieD89 said:
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They are a young secondary and they haven’t played much together. The most important thing they need to address is the pass rush. It should be the top priority next year. It has been going on way to long.


AT this rate we should be able
To draft Chase Young
Eli apologist will refer to this mop up time  
micky : 9/8/2019 7:13 pm : link
But but but
Next week will be very telling...  
alsoknownaskaz : 9/8/2019 7:14 pm : link
If Buffalo comes to NY and blows the Giants doors off... it's going to be a loooong year. Worst case scenario: Eli looks effective and Giants score 5 touchdowns, only to be outscored by the Bills, so the season plummets but Eli's job stays secure
RE: Unbelievable.  
Justlurking : 9/8/2019 7:14 pm : link
In comment 14565708 redwhiteandbigblue said:
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Let's get Jones killed because we put him in the middle of a feeding frenzy. How ridiculous.

His time will come but of all games this is not the time. Let's fix one thing at a time. How about a defensive coordinator that can come up with a game plan to cover up some of his team's obvious deficiencies. I saw absolutely no defensive adjustments made at halftime. The poster who identified Jackrabbitt was not being thrown at was exactly right so why is he not covering Cooper and help from the safeties to cover the other wr?


This is a soft prevent Defense. Its a perfect spot for Jones.
RE: RE: Jesus even the Buck and Aikman are nuts  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 7:14 pm : link
In comment 14565765 bigbluescot said:
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In comment 14565755 GiantSteps said:


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Eli's still not the problem. Ugh



Eli is A problem. He's not THE problem. The offense could still be pretty decent, but the defense is a dumpster fire.


Well both were dumpster fires today, the defense more so
People..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 7:14 pm : link
thinking Eli is as much of a problem as the D are really delusional.

We looked like a competent O at times. We look like a dumpster fire on D
RE: RE: Put in Jones  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 7:14 pm : link
In comment 14565760 Justlurking said:
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In comment 14565724 Nine-Tails said:


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Freaking cowards



no no no, eli has to pad his stats against the prevent defense so all the homers can say he played well.

+1
RE: People..  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14565774 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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thinking Eli is as much of a problem as the D are really delusional.

We looked like a competent O at times. We look like a dumpster fire on D


we scored 10 pts in todays NFL where u need normally high 20's 30's to win. Stop it. And no the last td in garbage time doesn't count
RE: People..  
dpinzow : 9/8/2019 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14565774 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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thinking Eli is as much of a problem as the D are really delusional.

We looked like a competent O at times. We look like a dumpster fire on D


We look like a competent offense held back by bad playcalling (not getting the ball to Saquon enough). Agreed on the defense
RE: People..  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14565774 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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thinking Eli is as much of a problem as the D are really delusional.

We looked like a competent O at times. We look like a dumpster fire on D

Good takeaway, OL looked ok, so Eli looked ok.
RE: The most shocking aspect of this game...  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14565764 nzyme said:
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Is that we weren't even competitive on either side of the ball...

When a Defense only makes 2 stops it's going to completely change the offense's gameplan. they are playing catch-up the whole game which is not what this team is built for
They shoud have gone for 2  
NoPeanutz : 9/8/2019 7:15 pm : link
right?
RE: RE: Rome wasn’t built in a day  
greek13 : 9/8/2019 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14565686 santacruzom said:
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In comment 14565645 PhilSimms
Both hires where extremely conservative and it’s unclear whether either guys can rebuild this team appropriately. Clearly, DG has thus far build a horrendous defense and Shurmur’s play calling is uninspired.


I'm not sure about DG yet. He does seem to draft well.
It's still too premature to declare his picks outside of Barkley will be above average NFL starters, but it seems as though quite a few will be.

He just vacillates too much between "we are good enough to win now" and "this will take time, we're building a winning team" thing. [/quote]






This ^^^^^^^
Thank you
RE: People..  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14565774 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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thinking Eli is as much of a problem as the D are really delusional.

We looked like a competent O at times. We look like a dumpster fire on D


The first drive and in garbage time. Good to know if that's the baseline. The defense looked competent the first and last drive too, lol
The most surprising aspect of this game  
CT Charlie : 9/8/2019 7:16 pm : link
is how well Dak Prescott played. I wasn't expecting him to look like a superstar. He should probably take our D out to dinner, though.
RE: RE: This defense  
Fritz : 9/8/2019 7:16 pm : link
In comment 14565659 Eman11 said:
[quote] In comment 14565598 DavidinBMNY said:


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Is worse then expected. Ouch.



Yep.

I know we're out talented but the coaching has left a hell of a lot to be desired. On both sides of the ball.

The defense was going to be a work in progress but they look terrible. If they can’t get any kind of pass rush this isn’t going to get better anytime soon. The offense isn’t good enough to make up for this bad a defense. And if Shurmur isn’t going to go to his best player on third and one then he might as well resign tomorrow and save them the trouble of having to fire him.
RE: RE: Why is Eli still playing?  
Giantfan21 : 9/8/2019 7:16 pm : link
In comment 14565752 mphbullet36 said:
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In comment 14565738 Larry from WV said:


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What is the purpose?



if DJ leads a scoring drive...all the questions this week will about him playing...Shurmer is a mental midget with the media and doesn't want to deal with it


It's not shurmurs decision. It's maras and he doesnt want to be questioned in the media
How is Eli the problem?  
yalebowl : 9/8/2019 7:16 pm : link
When the defense can’t get off the field. The opposing team’s punter need not dress. And Shurmer doesn’t call Barkley’s number.
Manning isn’t an issue  
bubba0825 : 9/8/2019 7:16 pm : link
Half the playbook was out the window in the 2nd half cause we couldn’t stop a high school team
RE: Jesus even the Buck and Aikman are nuts  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 7:16 pm : link
In comment 14565755 GiantSteps said:
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Eli's still not the problem. Ugh

Yeah Aikman has no clue but some putz on BBI does...


You can't make shit like this up
RE: RE: People..  
crick n NC : 9/8/2019 7:16 pm : link
In comment 14565789 Nine-Tails said:
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In comment 14565774 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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thinking Eli is as much of a problem as the D are really delusional.

We looked like a competent O at times. We look like a dumpster fire on D



The first drive and in garbage time. Good to know if that's the baseline. The defense looked competent the first and last drive too, lol


It's not really hard to understand this point
eli absolutely stinks  
jmalls23 : 9/8/2019 7:16 pm : link
let me be clear. He stinks!!!!
His  
crick n NC : 9/8/2019 7:17 pm : link
Point
RE: RE: People..  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 7:17 pm : link
In comment 14565780 dpinzow said:
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In comment 14565774 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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thinking Eli is as much of a problem as the D are really delusional.

We looked like a competent O at times. We look like a dumpster fire on D



We look like a competent offense held back by bad playcalling (not getting the ball to Saquon enough). Agreed on the defense


Well the playcalling wont change for a while
Wow  
HoustonGiant : 9/8/2019 7:17 pm : link
Second year in row I went to Dallas to watch. Defense was confused and out of position all night.

This is all on the defense.
RE: Manning isn’t an issue  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 7:17 pm : link
In comment 14565795 bubba0825 said:
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Half the playbook was out the window in the 2nd half cause we couldn’t stop a high school team

Exactly
I really cannot believe that on a day when...  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 7:17 pm : link
some people here called our defense the worst in the league...

on a day when DAK has a career day against us...

on a day when we cannot stop the run either...

on a day when people here are questioning the play calling and why Barkley did not get more touches in the first half...

We are talking about Eli
timeouts?  
fkap : 9/8/2019 7:17 pm : link
Good golly, it's over. let the clock run out, and call it a day.
RE: RE: Jesus even the Buck and Aikman are nuts  
mrvax : 9/8/2019 7:18 pm : link
In comment 14565765 bigbluescot said:
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Eli is A problem. He's not THE problem. The offense could still be pretty decent, but the defense is a dumpster fire.


You could always urinate on a dumpster fire but pissing all over this D, I mean really soaking them down might be fun but they won't get any better that way.
RE: Jesus even the Buck and Aikman are nuts  
Toth029 : 9/8/2019 7:18 pm : link
In comment 14565755 GiantSteps said:
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Eli's still not the problem. Ugh

I want Jones to play sooner rather than later myself. Eli didn't call roll outs on 3rd and 4th and one calls earlier.
RE: The most surprising aspect of this game  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 7:19 pm : link
In comment 14565790 CT Charlie said:
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is how well Dak Prescott played. I wasn't expecting him to look like a superstar. He should probably take our D out to dinner, though.

One positive, Jerrah is dusting out the checkbook.
Please put in jones  
Jim in Forest Hills : 9/8/2019 7:19 pm : link
Let the kid get reps
RE: RE: The defense stunk the first two games of 2007  
Fritz : 9/8/2019 7:19 pm : link
In comment 14565727 christian said:
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In comment 14565707 Bramton1 said:


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I know it's a stretch, but hoping the defense can figure something out in the next game or two.




The Giants won 19 games the previous 2 years, not 8.


The 2007 Giants and were expected to be a playoff contender and had good players on both sides of the ball. The biggest question mark that team had was Eli.
RE: People..  
Rudy5757 : 9/8/2019 7:19 pm : link
In comment 14565774 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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thinking Eli is as much of a problem as the D are really delusional.

We looked like a competent O at times. We look like a dumpster fire on D


We scored 10 points. That wont win with a good D. Eli with a stupid grounding and trying to run on 4th down and fumbling. there was a guy open in the endzone. He can't throw a 5 yard pass to SB. I dont know what O you are watching
RE: I really cannot believe that on a day when...  
mrvax : 9/8/2019 7:19 pm : link
In comment 14565804 EricJ said:
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some people here called our defense the worst in the league...

on a day when DAK has a career day against us...

on a day when we cannot stop the run either...

on a day when people here are questioning the play calling and why Barkley did not get more touches in the first half...

We are talking about Eli


Yes Eric. Always bring in the backup QB when the team sucks.
plenty of time for more garbage time  
mphbullet36 : 9/8/2019 7:19 pm : link
completions and stats
RE: How is Eli the problem?  
RDJR : 9/8/2019 7:19 pm : link
In comment 14565794 yalebowl said:
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When the defense can’t get off the field. The opposing team’s punter need not dress. And Shurmer doesn’t call Barkley’s number.


He’s not the problem, but with no chance to win the Rookie should get some snaps.
RE: Next week will be very telling...  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 7:20 pm : link
In comment 14565768 alsoknownaskaz said:
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If Buffalo comes to NY and blows the Giants doors off... it's going to be a loooong year. Worst case scenario: Eli looks effective and Giants score 5 touchdowns, only to be outscored by the Bills, so the season plummets but Eli's job stays secure


It’s going to be an interesting game. Bills are much better team this year, however, if there was a home game that we should win, it should be next week. My question however will be if our defense can improve and help the team win a agame?
the only improvement seen in offense  
mdc1 : 9/8/2019 7:20 pm : link
appears to be blocking and protection, all that has spared us are risky Eli decisions on throws and turnovers; otherwise we have not offensive productivity beyond Barkley and you can't run him every play. checkdown and low YPC attempts will get worse if this continues and teams start blitzing packages to get to Eli.
RE: How is Eli the problem?  
Dutch77 : 9/8/2019 7:20 pm : link
In comment 14565794 yalebowl said:
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When the defense can’t get off the field. The opposing team’s punter need not dress. And Shurmer doesn’t call Barkley’s number.

Because your QB can’t account for more than 6 points a game. Why couldn’t this game have been a shoot out? Let me guess Eli had no time to throw the ball right?
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 7:20 pm : link
And here we go Jones!
RE: RE: How is Eli the problem?  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 7:20 pm : link
In comment 14565825 RDJR said:
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In comment 14565794 yalebowl said:


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When the defense can’t get off the field. The opposing team’s punter need not dress. And Shurmer doesn’t call Barkley’s number.



He’s not the problem, but with no chance to win the Rookie should get some snaps.


He sure is part of it
RE: plenty of time for more garbage time  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 7:20 pm : link
In comment 14565824 mphbullet36 said:
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completions and stats


What is wrong with that? Something good has to come out of this game.

Take the low-hanging fruit.
DANIEL JONES in the game  
dpinzow : 9/8/2019 7:21 pm : link
This is not a drill
Welp,  
Mad Mike : 9/8/2019 7:21 pm : link
here we go.
RE: Wow  
RDJR : 9/8/2019 7:21 pm : link
In comment 14565802 HoustonGiant said:
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Second year in row I went to Dallas to watch. Defense was confused and out of position all night.

This is all on the defense.


We scored 10 points when it mattered.
Welp, the rook is in!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 7:21 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: The defense stunk the first two games of 2007  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 7:21 pm : link
In comment 14565819 Fritz said:
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In comment 14565727 christian said:


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In comment 14565707 Bramton1 said:


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I know it's a stretch, but hoping the defense can figure something out in the next game or two.




The Giants won 19 games the previous 2 years, not 8.



The 2007 Giants and were expected to be a playoff contender and had good players on both sides of the ball. The biggest question mark that team had was Eli.

How was an 8-8 team the preceding year considered a playoff contender if the QB was a question mark?
Why no Barkley?  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 7:21 pm : link
.
with this defense, we weren't winning a shootout  
fkap : 9/8/2019 7:22 pm : link
maybe we don't have the ponies, but Eli really hasn't rallied the troops, and he hasn't for a long time. He's rarely made the O more than the sum of the parts.
I believe this defense can bounce back  
Blue Ninja : 9/8/2019 7:22 pm : link
Most of the time there was just utter confusion. When they werent confused they played okay. Just some mistakes with penalties and lost schematically. If they get the schemes down, there could be a big improvement. Can be middle of the pack this year.
Is that  
JoshB : 9/8/2019 7:22 pm : link
Serious question?
Woulda been hilarious if the one time we get a return TD  
ChaChing : 9/8/2019 7:22 pm : link
it was there lol

But the kid is in, so yall can chill (even if it should have been earlier...)
Cowboys sitting back still...  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 7:22 pm : link
giving us the underneath passes
Why didn't we put in our 2-minute genius,  
CT Charlie : 9/8/2019 7:22 pm : link
Lauletta?
RE: RE: RE: RE: The defense stunk the first two games of 2007  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 7:22 pm : link
In comment 14565843 montanagiant said:
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In comment 14565819 Fritz said:


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In comment 14565727 christian said:


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In comment 14565707 Bramton1 said:


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I know it's a stretch, but hoping the defense can figure something out in the next game or two.




The Giants won 19 games the previous 2 years, not 8.



The 2007 Giants and were expected to be a playoff contender and had good players on both sides of the ball. The biggest question mark that team had was Eli.


How was an 8-8 team the preceding year considered a playoff contender if the QB was a question mark?


They were supposed to be in the playoffs in 2006. It was a firestorm of criticism that that team didnt make it.
Get Eli Manning Off the Field  
Jim in NH : 9/8/2019 7:22 pm : link
This has turned into another National Feelings League thread.

It's the QB's job to win. If Manning can't win, try to find somebody who can.
RE: Why no Barkley?  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 7:22 pm : link
In comment 14565844 Simms11 said:
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Why have him take the hits?
Im the furthest thing from an Eli apologist  
Greg from LI : 9/8/2019 7:23 pm : link
But with no defense, a weak OL, and no big play receivers, what do people expect.
RE: Cowboys sitting back still...  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 7:23 pm : link
In comment 14565851 EricJ said:
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giving us the underneath passes


Games over, but giving DJ some NFL experience is a good thing.
RE: Welp, the rook is in!  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 7:23 pm : link
In comment 14565840 Simms11 said:
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please remember this is still garbage time.
That's a fumble  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 7:24 pm : link
.
it is a fumble...  
EricJ : 9/8/2019 7:24 pm : link
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That's a fumble  
dpinzow : 9/8/2019 7:24 pm : link
and a clear recovery
Very Eli-esque fumble  
Greg from LI : 9/8/2019 7:25 pm : link
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Like I said in the post game thread (prematurely)  
Matt M. : 9/8/2019 7:25 pm : link
Same old shit. That should be the text for the home page.
Another fumble  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 7:25 pm : link
He has to take care of the ball .
Damn it!  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 7:25 pm : link
Wanted to see more
RE: Im the furthest thing from an Eli apologist  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 7:25 pm : link
In comment 14565857 Greg from LI said:
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But with no defense, a weak OL, and no big play receivers, what do people expect.


OL was ok today
Good. He needs to clean  
rebel yell : 9/8/2019 7:25 pm : link
that shit up ASAP and it's a good wake up call. That won't work.
RE: Very Eli-esque fumble  
micky : 9/8/2019 7:25 pm : link
In comment 14565865 Greg from LI said:
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Lol
So much for Jones  
DonnieD89 : 9/8/2019 7:25 pm : link
with this game today.
Fumble.Dallas  
RDJR : 9/8/2019 7:25 pm : link
Ball.
fumble  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2019 7:25 pm : link
can't be caused by an ass-crack. That's down by asstact.
RE: The most surprising aspect of this game  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 9/8/2019 7:26 pm : link
In comment 14565790 CT Charlie said:
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is how well Dak Prescott played. I wasn't expecting him to look like a superstar. He should probably take our D out to dinner, though.



He never had to move! Anyone would have looked good.
RE: Im the furthest thing from an Eli apologist  
jcn56 : 9/8/2019 7:26 pm : link
In comment 14565857 Greg from LI said:
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But with no defense, a weak OL, and no big play receivers, what do people expect.


Weak OL? This is Gettleman's rebuilt OL. If anything, it's the one unit on the team that's comprised entirely of guys that Gettleman wanted and paid good money to get.

If the OL is weak, then there's no reason to have any confidence in Gettleman to rebuild any of this.
Daniel  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 7:26 pm : link
Fumbling Jones
RE: The most surprising aspect of this game  
Eman11 : 9/8/2019 7:26 pm : link
In comment 14565790 CT Charlie said:
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is how well Dak Prescott played. I wasn't expecting him to look like a superstar. He should probably take our D out to dinner, though.


All part of the Masterplan. Make Jerruh give him big bucks and eat up what's left of their cap, and hinder them going forward as much as possible.
RE: I believe this defense can bounce back  
Giants86 : 9/8/2019 7:26 pm : link
In comment 14565848 Blue Ninja said:
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Most of the time there was just utter confusion. When they werent confused they played okay. Just some mistakes with penalties and lost schematically. If they get the schemes down, there could be a big improvement. Can be middle of the pack this year.



There isn’t much talent wise. Unless the kids really get better it won’t change a lot
RE: Eli is killing us just as much as the D  
Fritz : 9/8/2019 7:27 pm : link
In comment 14565756 Rudy5757 said:
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Dink and dunk. short passes off target as usual


Eli wasn’t the problem today with the way the defense got beat up but he didn’t help things either. Eli can still be effective if with the running game game is working and he’s getting good protection but he can’t make the big plays or elevate the team the way he did years ago.
Eli is not winning any shootout these days - if things go right, he is  
GiantsUA : 9/8/2019 7:27 pm : link
a 17-28 point QB with a defense that will give up 24-45 points a game.

If nothing else Jones popped his NFL cherry.
RE: I believe this defense can bounce back  
Giants86 : 9/8/2019 7:27 pm : link
In comment 14565848 Blue Ninja said:
Quote:
Most of the time there was just utter confusion. When they werent confused they played okay. Just some mistakes with penalties and lost schematically. If they get the schemes down, there could be a big improvement. Can be middle of the pack this year.



There isn’t much talent wise. Unless the kids really get better it won’t change a lot
So that was worth it.  
redwhiteandbigblue : 9/8/2019 7:27 pm : link
Almost got himself killed. Sorry but putting him in this game is a mistake.Glad it did not happen but I am sure all the people complaining about putting Jones in would have hid if he got hurt.
The only problem with Eli  
mrvax : 9/8/2019 7:27 pm : link
and it's a pretty big one: He is Zero threat to run. Zero. That's bad. However, the D is far worse, IMO.
At least Jerome McDougle  
bubba0825 : 9/8/2019 7:28 pm : link
Didn’t nearly break Jones in half.
OL was Ok today?  
Greg from LI : 9/8/2019 7:29 pm : link
It was, at best, barely adequate.
I'm so glad we have a classy, smart coach  
Route 9 : 9/8/2019 7:30 pm : link
Such as Shurmur
RE: I'm so glad we have a classy, smart coach  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2019 7:32 pm : link
In comment 14565917 Route 9 said:
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Such as Shurmur


I'd like a coach that doesn't panic down two scores at the half.
Poetic?  
Percy : 9/8/2019 7:32 pm : link
The very first offensive Giants play of the year in this game was a fumble and their very last one in it was the same, another fumble.
RE: RE: Eli is killing us just as much as the D  
Matt M. : 9/8/2019 7:32 pm : link
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Dink and dunk. short passes off target as usual



Eli wasn’t the problem today with the way the defense got beat up but he didn’t help things either. Eli can still be effective if with the running game game is working and he’s getting good protection but he can’t make the big plays or elevate the team the way he did years ago.
I don't think Eli was the problem, but his grounding penalty was a big one and the other failed 4th down conversion was terrible. Same old shit.
RE: OL was Ok today?  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 7:33 pm : link
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It was, at best, barely adequate.


In terms of overall performance, run and pass blocking. They were ok, or average.
Jones has to have better  
Dave on the UWS : 9/8/2019 7:33 pm : link
Ball awareness. Can’t fumble on that kind of scramble. For the rest of the team, this is a starting point. The one guy that I was disappointed in on defense was Golden. They needed him to be THE pass rusher. He was invisible. Carter had a few nice rushes, but there was nothing consistent.
RE: RE: I'm so glad we have a classy, smart coach  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 7:34 pm : link
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Such as Shurmur



I'd like a coach that doesn't panic down two scores at the half.


Hell, he panicked after Barkley lit it up in the opening drive.
RE: Poetic?  
AcidTest : 9/8/2019 7:37 pm : link
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The very first offensive Giants play of the year in this game was a fumble and their very last one in it was the same, another fumble.


Great point.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The defense stunk the first two games of 2007  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 7:50 pm : link
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I know it's a stretch, but hoping the defense can figure something out in the next game or two.




The Giants won 19 games the previous 2 years, not 8.



The 2007 Giants and were expected to be a playoff contender and had good players on both sides of the ball. The biggest question mark that team had was Eli.


How was an 8-8 team the preceding year considered a playoff contender if the QB was a question mark?



They were supposed to be in the playoffs in 2006. It was a firestorm of criticism that that team didnt make it.

We got picked by very few procrastinators to maybe make a wildcard. That was it
RE: RE: RE: Eli is killing us just as much as the D  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 7:51 pm : link
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Dink and dunk. short passes off target as usual



Eli wasn’t the problem today with the way the defense got beat up but he didn’t help things either. Eli can still be effective if with the running game game is working and he’s getting good protection but he can’t make the big plays or elevate the team the way he did years ago.

I don't think Eli was the problem, but his grounding penalty was a big one and the other failed 4th down conversion was terrible. Same old shit.
Except it wasn't grounding because he was outside the tackle and Barkley was in the area. I am willing to bet that has never been called before with the same circumstances
...  
christian : 9/8/2019 7:56 pm : link
The offensive line played well tonight. Manning was hit on the designed roll-outs that didn't materialize, and otherwise had a completely acceptable pocket.

Barkley wasn't getting crushed in the backfield and had nice help downfield.

This is the offense by design. A lot of quick outs, bubbles, and screens. The best deep threat on the team is the tight end. The best outside WR is a career slot receiver.

Literally no one should be surprised by the offense. This is what it's supposed to be.
Always hopeful for a win ..  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 7:57 pm : link
Reality I thought 34-17 Dallas
so no too far off after Dallas went up two scores
it was over . I thought Shurmur really called a lousy game
The continued failures on the roll out plays once he got
close he has a limited playbook problem is nobody was
winning downfield he got away from Barkley early .
The defense was a lot worse than I imagined they couldn't
cover anyone Dallas has plenty of weapons and the defense
was overmatched Zeke wasn't even a factor and still moved
the ball with ease .
RE: ...  
Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 8:00 pm : link
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The offensive line played well tonight. Manning was hit on the designed roll-outs that didn't materialize, and otherwise had a completely acceptable pocket.

Barkley wasn't getting crushed in the backfield and had nice help downfield.

This is the offense by design. A lot of quick outs, bubbles, and screens. The best deep threat on the team is the tight end. The best outside WR is a career slot receiver.

Literally no one should be surprised by the offense. This is what it's supposed to be.


I agree, they opened up nice holes and it wasn't a jailbreak on Eli. It's on the bottom issues of why we lost today, unusual after the past few years.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Eli is killing us just as much as the D  
gmenatlarge : 9/8/2019 8:41 pm : link
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Dink and dunk. short passes off target as usual



Eli wasn’t the problem today with the way the defense got beat up but he didn’t help things either. Eli can still be effective if with the running game game is working and he’s getting good protection but he can’t make the big plays or elevate the team the way he did years ago.

I don't think Eli was the problem, but his grounding penalty was a big one and the other failed 4th down conversion was terrible. Same old shit.

Except it wasn't grounding because he was outside the tackle and Barkley was in the area. I am willing to bet that has never been called before with the same circumstances


+1 I was saying the same thing, no one mentioned the receiver in the area.
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