My mind is actually pretty changed on Manning. I thought he was just functional, but he looks pretty ok to good.
Too bad it's going to end like this, on an obviously outmatched team. This team needs a lot of time and help.
The best favor anyone could do Manning would be to trade him to Jax at this point. A contender, with enough on offense for him to produce and a defense capable of holding leads.
Here, he's going to be in the middle of a shitstorm almost entirely not of his doing (he's overpaid relative to his performance, but not much he can do about that).
I'd rather see the guy go and possibly win another one somewhere else than watch what I think is coming, an ugly losing campaign that he won't be able to prevent.
He could have retired.
The buffalo bills scored 17 points with a trash can at Quarterback. Â
Let's get Jones killed because we put him in the middle of a feeding frenzy. How ridiculous.
His time will come but of all games this is not the time. Let's fix one thing at a time. How about a defensive coordinator that can come up with a game plan to cover up some of his team's obvious deficiencies. I saw absolutely no defensive adjustments made at halftime. The poster who identified Jackrabbitt was not being thrown at was exactly right so why is he not covering Cooper and help from the safeties to cover the other wr?
now definitely the time.. The manner in which he operates out of the pocket is sad..Like he has the yips..Only thing he looks comfortable with is firing bullets at receivers 2-5 yards beyond the line of s..or even behind the line of Scrimmage.. At one time he had the ability to move around just a bit and save some plays... but today he just reminded me of an old guy just trying to survive...Sad
The Redskins scored 27 points against Philadelphia. Â
but this has been an absolute joke in terms of calling this game.
Shurmur has been terrible today. If you just take the third and fourth and one plays where Barkley never touched the ball that cost this team points he has to take a hit. There’s a good reason why he’s a career loser
The big question is whether the Giants have the right GM to draft right and manage the cap appropriately and the coach to lead the team out of the wilderness.
I don’t see it.
Both hires where extremely conservative and it’s unclear whether either guys can rebuild this team appropriately. Clearly, DG has thus far build a horrendous defense and Shurmur’s play calling is uninspired.
Going to be a long season.
^ this.
Way too many positions on this team seem bereft of talent. It's early yet, and maybe Dallas is a good enough opponent that they make them seem much worse.
But even on paper before the season started, looking at some of the units, not being able to find a credible #1 WR, a pass rusher, relying on guys like Ogletree and Peppers to come up big - you had to be expecting at least some disappointment. This doesn't seem like year 2 of a 3 year rebuild - it seems like something someone else is going to have to rebuild after this is deemed a failure.
Let's hope Jones is as advertised during the preseason otherwise this could be a real fucking disaster.
They are a young secondary and they haven’t played much together. The most important thing they need to address is the pass rush. It should be the top priority next year. It has been going on way to long.
RE: The defense stunk the first two games of 2007 Â
Their rookie just went 22/25 w/ 2 TDs & a pick. Doesn't mean they don't need something as backup depending on who else is back there (Foles has a clavicle so is out for a bit). But 1 game or not they aren't itching for QB help from Eli, esp having to trade atm vs FA after the season
if DJ leads a scoring drive...all the questions this week will about him playing...Shurmer is a mental midget with the media and doesn't want to deal with it
Gotta tidy up the completion percentage and yardage. Â
If that's seriously the reason, fire Shurmur now. You don't make football decisions based on whether reporters might ask you annoying questions or not.
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My mind is actually pretty changed on Manning. I thought he was just functional, but he looks pretty ok to good.
Too bad it's going to end like this, on an obviously outmatched team. This team needs a lot of time and help.
The best favor anyone could do Manning would be to trade him to Jax at this point. A contender, with enough on offense for him to produce and a defense capable of holding leads.
Here, he's going to be in the middle of a shitstorm almost entirely not of his doing (he's overpaid relative to his performance, but not much he can do about that).
I'd rather see the guy go and possibly win another one somewhere else than watch what I think is coming, an ugly losing campaign that he won't be able to prevent.
He could have retired.
His time will come but of all games this is not the time. Let's fix one thing at a time. How about a defensive coordinator that can come up with a game plan to cover up some of his team's obvious deficiencies. I saw absolutely no defensive adjustments made at halftime. The poster who identified Jackrabbitt was not being thrown at was exactly right so why is he not covering Cooper and help from the safeties to cover the other wr?
Our future with Jones is now.
That is an interesting idea - although the rookie Minshew was 22/25 with 2TD in relief.
Damn sex offender.
Shurmur has been terrible today. If you just take the third and fourth and one plays where Barkley never touched the ball that cost this team points he has to take a hit. There’s a good reason why he’s a career loser
I don’t see it.
Both hires where extremely conservative and it’s unclear whether either guys can rebuild this team appropriately. Clearly, DG has thus far build a horrendous defense and Shurmur’s play calling is uninspired.
Going to be a long season.
^ this.
Way too many positions on this team seem bereft of talent. It's early yet, and maybe Dallas is a good enough opponent that they make them seem much worse.
But even on paper before the season started, looking at some of the units, not being able to find a credible #1 WR, a pass rusher, relying on guys like Ogletree and Peppers to come up big - you had to be expecting at least some disappointment. This doesn't seem like year 2 of a 3 year rebuild - it seems like something someone else is going to have to rebuild after this is deemed a failure.
Let's hope Jones is as advertised during the preseason otherwise this could be a real fucking disaster.
The Giants won 19 games the previous 2 years, not 8.
Lol
With a bad coaching staff. Great Combination.
Shurmur is and has always been an awful HC. Not sure why
Ownership, thought it would be different here
They're scared of the QB questions.
yeah I think now with 4 min to play it is time to pull him
Stats..add on
Our future with Jones is now.
Their rookie just went 22/25 w/ 2 TDs & a pick. Doesn't mean they don't need something as backup depending on who else is back there (Foles has a clavicle so is out for a bit). But 1 game or not they aren't itching for QB help from Eli, esp having to trade atm vs FA after the season
How anyone can justify Eli being the starting qb for this team going forward is beyond me
if DJ leads a scoring drive...all the questions this week will about him playing...Shurmer is a mental midget with the media and doesn't want to deal with it
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What is the purpose?
They're scared of the QB questions.
If that's seriously the reason, fire Shurmur now. You don't make football decisions based on whether reporters might ask you annoying questions or not.