They are a young secondary and they haven’t played much together. The most important thing they need to address is the pass rush. It should be the top priority next year. It has been going on way to long.
AT this rate we should be able
To draft Chase Young
If Buffalo comes to NY and blows the Giants doors off... it's going to be a loooong year. Worst case scenario: Eli looks effective and Giants score 5 touchdowns, only to be outscored by the Bills, so the season plummets but Eli's job stays secure
Let's get Jones killed because we put him in the middle of a feeding frenzy. How ridiculous.
His time will come but of all games this is not the time. Let's fix one thing at a time. How about a defensive coordinator that can come up with a game plan to cover up some of his team's obvious deficiencies. I saw absolutely no defensive adjustments made at halftime. The poster who identified Jackrabbitt was not being thrown at was exactly right so why is he not covering Cooper and help from the safeties to cover the other wr?
This is a soft prevent Defense. Its a perfect spot for Jones.
Is that we weren't even competitive on either side of the ball...
When a Defense only makes 2 stops it's going to completely change the offense's gameplan. they are playing catch-up the whole game which is not what this team is built for
In comment 14565645 PhilSimms
Both hires where extremely conservative and it’s unclear whether either guys can rebuild this team appropriately. Clearly, DG has thus far build a horrendous defense and Shurmur’s play calling is uninspired.
I'm not sure about DG yet. He does seem to draft well.
It's still too premature to declare his picks outside of Barkley will be above average NFL starters, but it seems as though quite a few will be.
He just vacillates too much between "we are good enough to win now" and "this will take time, we're building a winning team" thing. [/quote]
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Is worse then expected. Ouch.
Yep.
I know we're out talented but the coaching has left a hell of a lot to be desired. On both sides of the ball.
The defense was going to be a work in progress but they look terrible. If they can’t get any kind of pass rush this isn’t going to get better anytime soon. The offense isn’t good enough to make up for this bad a defense. And if Shurmur isn’t going to go to his best player on third and one then he might as well resign tomorrow and save them the trouble of having to fire him.
if DJ leads a scoring drive...all the questions this week will about him playing...Shurmer is a mental midget with the media and doesn't want to deal with it
It's not shurmurs decision. It's maras and he doesnt want to be questioned in the media
Eli is A problem. He's not THE problem. The offense could still be pretty decent, but the defense is a dumpster fire.
You could always urinate on a dumpster fire but pissing all over this D, I mean really soaking them down might be fun but they won't get any better that way.
I know it's a stretch, but hoping the defense can figure something out in the next game or two.
The Giants won 19 games the previous 2 years, not 8.
The 2007 Giants and were expected to be a playoff contender and had good players on both sides of the ball. The biggest question mark that team had was Eli.
thinking Eli is as much of a problem as the D are really delusional.
We looked like a competent O at times. We look like a dumpster fire on D
We scored 10 points. That wont win with a good D. Eli with a stupid grounding and trying to run on 4th down and fumbling. there was a guy open in the endzone. He can't throw a 5 yard pass to SB. I dont know what O you are watching
RE: I really cannot believe that on a day when... Â
If Buffalo comes to NY and blows the Giants doors off... it's going to be a loooong year. Worst case scenario: Eli looks effective and Giants score 5 touchdowns, only to be outscored by the Bills, so the season plummets but Eli's job stays secure
It’s going to be an interesting game. Bills are much better team this year, however, if there was a home game that we should win, it should be next week. My question however will be if our defense can improve and help the team win a agame?
appears to be blocking and protection, all that has spared us are risky Eli decisions on throws and turnovers; otherwise we have not offensive productivity beyond Barkley and you can't run him every play. checkdown and low YPC attempts will get worse if this continues and teams start blitzing packages to get to Eli.
When the defense can’t get off the field. The opposing team’s punter need not dress. And Shurmer doesn’t call Barkley’s number.
Because your QB can’t account for more than 6 points a game. Why couldn’t this game have been a shoot out? Let me guess Eli had no time to throw the ball right?
no no no, eli has to pad his stats against the prevent defense so all the homers can say he played well.
Eli is A problem. He's not THE problem. The offense could still be pretty decent, but the defense is a dumpster fire.
AT this rate we should be able
To draft Chase Young
His time will come but of all games this is not the time. Let's fix one thing at a time. How about a defensive coordinator that can come up with a game plan to cover up some of his team's obvious deficiencies. I saw absolutely no defensive adjustments made at halftime. The poster who identified Jackrabbitt was not being thrown at was exactly right so why is he not covering Cooper and help from the safeties to cover the other wr?
This is a soft prevent Defense. Its a perfect spot for Jones.
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Eli's still not the problem. Ugh
Eli is A problem. He's not THE problem. The offense could still be pretty decent, but the defense is a dumpster fire.
Well both were dumpster fires today, the defense more so
We looked like a competent O at times. We look like a dumpster fire on D
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Freaking cowards
no no no, eli has to pad his stats against the prevent defense so all the homers can say he played well.
+1
We looked like a competent O at times. We look like a dumpster fire on D
we scored 10 pts in todays NFL where u need normally high 20's 30's to win. Stop it. And no the last td in garbage time doesn't count
We looked like a competent O at times. We look like a dumpster fire on D
We look like a competent offense held back by bad playcalling (not getting the ball to Saquon enough). Agreed on the defense
We looked like a competent O at times. We look like a dumpster fire on D
Good takeaway, OL looked ok, so Eli looked ok.
When a Defense only makes 2 stops it's going to completely change the offense's gameplan. they are playing catch-up the whole game which is not what this team is built for
Both hires where extremely conservative and it’s unclear whether either guys can rebuild this team appropriately. Clearly, DG has thus far build a horrendous defense and Shurmur’s play calling is uninspired.
I'm not sure about DG yet. He does seem to draft well.
It's still too premature to declare his picks outside of Barkley will be above average NFL starters, but it seems as though quite a few will be.
He just vacillates too much between "we are good enough to win now" and "this will take time, we're building a winning team" thing. [/quote]
This ^^^^^^^
Thank you
We looked like a competent O at times. We look like a dumpster fire on D
The first drive and in garbage time. Good to know if that's the baseline. The defense looked competent the first and last drive too, lol
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Is worse then expected. Ouch.
Yep.
I know we're out talented but the coaching has left a hell of a lot to be desired. On both sides of the ball.
The defense was going to be a work in progress but they look terrible. If they can’t get any kind of pass rush this isn’t going to get better anytime soon. The offense isn’t good enough to make up for this bad a defense. And if Shurmur isn’t going to go to his best player on third and one then he might as well resign tomorrow and save them the trouble of having to fire him.
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What is the purpose?
if DJ leads a scoring drive...all the questions this week will about him playing...Shurmer is a mental midget with the media and doesn't want to deal with it
It's not shurmurs decision. It's maras and he doesnt want to be questioned in the media
Yeah Aikman has no clue but some putz on BBI does...
You can't make shit like this up
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thinking Eli is as much of a problem as the D are really delusional.
We looked like a competent O at times. We look like a dumpster fire on D
The first drive and in garbage time. Good to know if that's the baseline. The defense looked competent the first and last drive too, lol
It's not really hard to understand this point
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thinking Eli is as much of a problem as the D are really delusional.
We looked like a competent O at times. We look like a dumpster fire on D
We look like a competent offense held back by bad playcalling (not getting the ball to Saquon enough). Agreed on the defense
Well the playcalling wont change for a while
This is all on the defense.
Exactly
on a day when DAK has a career day against us...
on a day when we cannot stop the run either...
on a day when people here are questioning the play calling and why Barkley did not get more touches in the first half...
We are talking about Eli
Eli is A problem. He's not THE problem. The offense could still be pretty decent, but the defense is a dumpster fire.
You could always urinate on a dumpster fire but pissing all over this D, I mean really soaking them down might be fun but they won't get any better that way.
I want Jones to play sooner rather than later myself. Eli didn't call roll outs on 3rd and 4th and one calls earlier.
One positive, Jerrah is dusting out the checkbook.
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I know it's a stretch, but hoping the defense can figure something out in the next game or two.
The Giants won 19 games the previous 2 years, not 8.
The 2007 Giants and were expected to be a playoff contender and had good players on both sides of the ball. The biggest question mark that team had was Eli.
We looked like a competent O at times. We look like a dumpster fire on D
We scored 10 points. That wont win with a good D. Eli with a stupid grounding and trying to run on 4th down and fumbling. there was a guy open in the endzone. He can't throw a 5 yard pass to SB. I dont know what O you are watching
on a day when DAK has a career day against us...
on a day when we cannot stop the run either...
on a day when people here are questioning the play calling and why Barkley did not get more touches in the first half...
We are talking about Eli
Yes Eric. Always bring in the backup QB when the team sucks.
He’s not the problem, but with no chance to win the Rookie should get some snaps.
It’s going to be an interesting game. Bills are much better team this year, however, if there was a home game that we should win, it should be next week. My question however will be if our defense can improve and help the team win a agame?
Because your QB can’t account for more than 6 points a game. Why couldn’t this game have been a shoot out? Let me guess Eli had no time to throw the ball right?
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When the defense can’t get off the field. The opposing team’s punter need not dress. And Shurmer doesn’t call Barkley’s number.
He’s not the problem, but with no chance to win the Rookie should get some snaps.
He sure is part of it
What is wrong with that? Something good has to come out of this game.
Take the low-hanging fruit.