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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/8/2019 3:46 pm
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The defense stunk the first two games of 2007  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 7:50 pm : link
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I know it's a stretch, but hoping the defense can figure something out in the next game or two.




The Giants won 19 games the previous 2 years, not 8.



The 2007 Giants and were expected to be a playoff contender and had good players on both sides of the ball. The biggest question mark that team had was Eli.


How was an 8-8 team the preceding year considered a playoff contender if the QB was a question mark?



They were supposed to be in the playoffs in 2006. It was a firestorm of criticism that that team didnt make it.

We got picked by very few procrastinators to maybe make a wildcard. That was it
RE: RE: RE: Eli is killing us just as much as the D  
montanagiant : 9/8/2019 7:51 pm : link
In comment 14565934 Matt M. said:
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Dink and dunk. short passes off target as usual



Eli wasn’t the problem today with the way the defense got beat up but he didn’t help things either. Eli can still be effective if with the running game game is working and he’s getting good protection but he can’t make the big plays or elevate the team the way he did years ago.

I don't think Eli was the problem, but his grounding penalty was a big one and the other failed 4th down conversion was terrible. Same old shit.
Except it wasn't grounding because he was outside the tackle and Barkley was in the area. I am willing to bet that has never been called before with the same circumstances
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christian : 9/8/2019 7:56 pm : link
The offensive line played well tonight. Manning was hit on the designed roll-outs that didn't materialize, and otherwise had a completely acceptable pocket.

Barkley wasn't getting crushed in the backfield and had nice help downfield.

This is the offense by design. A lot of quick outs, bubbles, and screens. The best deep threat on the team is the tight end. The best outside WR is a career slot receiver.

Literally no one should be surprised by the offense. This is what it's supposed to be.
Always hopeful for a win ..  
Bluesbreaker : 9/8/2019 7:57 pm : link
Reality I thought 34-17 Dallas
so no too far off after Dallas went up two scores
it was over . I thought Shurmur really called a lousy game
The continued failures on the roll out plays once he got
close he has a limited playbook problem is nobody was
winning downfield he got away from Barkley early .
The defense was a lot worse than I imagined they couldn't
cover anyone Dallas has plenty of weapons and the defense
was overmatched Zeke wasn't even a factor and still moved
the ball with ease .
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Nine-Tails : 9/8/2019 8:00 pm : link
In comment 14566124 christian said:
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The offensive line played well tonight. Manning was hit on the designed roll-outs that didn't materialize, and otherwise had a completely acceptable pocket.

Barkley wasn't getting crushed in the backfield and had nice help downfield.

This is the offense by design. A lot of quick outs, bubbles, and screens. The best deep threat on the team is the tight end. The best outside WR is a career slot receiver.

Literally no one should be surprised by the offense. This is what it's supposed to be.


I agree, they opened up nice holes and it wasn't a jailbreak on Eli. It's on the bottom issues of why we lost today, unusual after the past few years.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Eli is killing us just as much as the D  
gmenatlarge : 9/8/2019 8:41 pm : link
In comment 14566085 montanagiant said:
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Dink and dunk. short passes off target as usual



Eli wasn’t the problem today with the way the defense got beat up but he didn’t help things either. Eli can still be effective if with the running game game is working and he’s getting good protection but he can’t make the big plays or elevate the team the way he did years ago.

I don't think Eli was the problem, but his grounding penalty was a big one and the other failed 4th down conversion was terrible. Same old shit.

Except it wasn't grounding because he was outside the tackle and Barkley was in the area. I am willing to bet that has never been called before with the same circumstances


+1 I was saying the same thing, no one mentioned the receiver in the area.
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