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Does Eli start next week?

rocco8112 : 9/8/2019 6:55 pm
Brutal week one, this team is not going to contend.

Do they pull the plug on Eli this week?

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Lol  
Giantology : 9/8/2019 6:55 pm : link
Nope
Yes.  
Mike from SI : 9/8/2019 6:55 pm : link
100%. Next question.
Yes  
Anakim : 9/8/2019 6:56 pm : link
.
Answering thread title.  
Mike from SI : 9/8/2019 6:56 pm : link
He 100% starts.
RE: Lol  
Giantology : 9/8/2019 6:56 pm : link
In comment 14565571 Giantology said:
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Nope


Just to clarify, my Nope is to the last question of the OP. Of course Eli will be starting next week.
Shouldn't  
kes722 : 9/8/2019 6:56 pm : link
But will
Omg!!!  
Thinblueline : 9/8/2019 6:57 pm : link
Stop it already!!! Eli will play until we are eliminated!
He shouldn't, but of course he will  
Oscar : 9/8/2019 6:57 pm : link
The Eli Manning era is over, the Giants will not compete with him ever again. Fun ride, good times, everything ends.

This team is not built to compete this year, Jones should be out there learning the ropes.

Shurmur will probably get asked after the game and act like it's the dumbest question he's ever heard. I doubt Jones actually plays until they have 8 losses or Manning is injured.
I think  
rocco8112 : 9/8/2019 6:59 pm : link
he does to since that game is basically the season for this team. Drop that one and 3 - 13 or bust. Likely the team could scrape a couple more if Shurmur didn't seem determined to prove his offense can produce without featuring Barkley.

Today was so bad though that after next week's loss Eli is done
He'll start all season  
micky : 9/8/2019 6:59 pm : link
.
He shouldn’t.  
Jerz44 : 9/8/2019 6:59 pm : link
It’s as much about seeing what we have w Shurmer. I don’t want to blow this season and then we start Jones next year only to see that Shurmer also sucks and then we lose 2 seasons. Start Jones and if they look bad throughout the year get a new coach too.
RE: Omg!!!  
rocco8112 : 9/8/2019 7:00 pm : link
In comment 14565594 Thinblueline said:
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Stop it already!!! Eli will play until we are eliminated!


An L next week and this team will be eliminated. Maybe not mathimatically, but in mind body and soul.
By Tuesday..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 7:00 pm : link
I'm sure there are going to be posts that Eli is responsible for giving up 5 straight TD's.

It already seems like more than half the posts on the game thread think he's the main problem today
Eli wasn't the problem today.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2019 7:01 pm : link
Our God awful defense was.
Jones should be starting and today isnt even a factor  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 7:03 pm : link
Eli hasnt been bad. Left a few out there. Good enough to win with a competent D and better playcalling.

But this team isnt contending and you only get 5 years of cost control with a rookie. Jones shouldve been pencilled in since draft night.
Why we did this last year  
mdthedream : 9/8/2019 7:04 pm : link
stop already and put the best player on the field.
Eli Not the Problem Today  
Jeffrey : 9/8/2019 7:05 pm : link
But he’s not the solution either. He has not thrown more than a handful of passes over 7-8 yards. He has reverted to 5 yard passes regardless of the down and distance. It’s frustrating. Is it Eli or Shurmur? It needs to stop.
No  
mdthedream : 9/8/2019 7:06 pm : link
Eli was bad= can't move and doesn't see open receiver. He is done and the other teams know it. Rollout is a waste of time because he is to slow. So why keep doing this over and over. Shurmer offense needs a QB that can move.
Yes they will start him and  
justafan : 9/8/2019 7:06 pm : link
he will win. Clouding the judgement of this team.
Stop  
mdthedream : 9/8/2019 7:07 pm : link
making it someone elses fault. The team knows this as well.
YES..  
morrison40 : 9/8/2019 7:07 pm : link
Until the bye, then Jone takes over the reins...no whining and no complaints
Yes  
ron mexico : 9/8/2019 7:07 pm : link
Not a doubt
He won't win  
mdthedream : 9/8/2019 7:08 pm : link
hell i would rush him all day long and take away the short pass that is all he can do. LOL! He has a great first drive all the time than he is done. Do you ever wonder why?
RE: Eli wasn't the problem today.  
chuckydee9 : 9/8/2019 7:09 pm : link
In comment 14565629 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Our God awful defense was.

He wasn't there main problem but he was a problem.. I expect more out of our offense.. we barely scored 10 meaningful points..
We should have  
mdthedream : 9/8/2019 7:09 pm : link
scored at least 28 points. If the kid played we would have.
QB fetishists are unable to see  
flycatcher : 9/8/2019 7:10 pm : link
the complete lack of defense
Yes  
jeff57 : 9/8/2019 7:11 pm : link
.
5:23 split screen of Manning and Jones  
morrison40 : 9/8/2019 7:11 pm : link
The official countdown has begun 🤨
Hell  
mdthedream : 9/8/2019 7:11 pm : link
Just look at the last drive of the first half that was pathetic.
RE: QB fetishists are unable to see  
j_rud : 9/8/2019 7:12 pm : link
In comment 14565737 flycatcher said:
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the complete lack of defense


They have absolutely *nothing* to do with each other.
No I know the defense is young and not so good  
mdthedream : 9/8/2019 7:13 pm : link
at this time but at least keep us in the damn game and maybe we will get better. The Giants dfense is going to take a couple of weeks in the mean time let the kid get ready by playing.
Eli has  
mdthedream : 9/8/2019 7:14 pm : link
had a great career two superbowl rings. Why do this to him just pull the plug.
He needs to  
XBRONX : 9/8/2019 7:14 pm : link
continue padding career stats. What's his career record now?
He was the best player in blue  
rdt288 : 9/8/2019 7:14 pm : link
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The Eli fanboys  
Les in TO : 9/8/2019 7:15 pm : link
Will point out his 68% completion and 300 yards as proof he’s still got it. But anyone who watched today knows he didn’t play well
This is a systemic shit show...  
Reb8thVA : 9/8/2019 7:15 pm : link
And it doesn’t matter what QB you put out there. Eli could have tossed 4 TDs and we still would lose.

— You have a HC who is over matched
— a bunch of receivers that are 3s and 4s
— TE with star potential but can’t stay healthy.
— a middling OL

On Defense

— a coordinator who shows nothing special
— no pass rush
— a DL with some big bodies but young and still learning
— a LB corpse that would probably be beaten out by most top 20 college teams
— a young and inexperienced secondary.
RE: Omg!!!  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 9/8/2019 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14565594 Thinblueline said:
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Stop it already!!! Eli will play until we are eliminated!


^Lots of exclamation points, that's how you know he won the argument.
RE: QB fetishists are unable to see  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/8/2019 7:17 pm : link
In comment 14565737 flycatcher said:
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the complete lack of defense


Eli is their Anti-Christ. No one w an ounce of football sense could think Jones could have won this game
And it has begun  
Jay on the Island : 9/8/2019 7:17 pm : link
Yes he starts. The next two weeks are winnable games. The Giants are not on Dallas' level
Why is there only 1 to blame?  
twostepgiants : 9/8/2019 7:17 pm : link
This team managed 10 pts when it mattered and lets face it- the "drive" was was really a 60 yard Saquon run.

The offense really did nothing
Without a doubt.  
Matt M. : 9/8/2019 7:18 pm : link
However, if they manage to lose at home next week, I really would go to Jones moving forward.
RE: He was the best player in blue  
twostepgiants : 9/8/2019 7:19 pm : link
In comment 14565775 rdt288 said:
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Eli???
RE: RE: QB fetishists are unable to see  
flycatcher : 9/8/2019 7:20 pm : link
In comment 14565754 j_rud said:
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In comment 14565737 flycatcher said:


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the complete lack of defense



They have absolutely *nothing* to do with each other.

?? The primary and major failure of this game is an utterly ineffective defense. But fans with QB-myopia can only see ELI, and have no awareness of how a double digit deficit fks up your offensive game plan.
Eli wasn't great but he wasn't terrible  
bigbluescot : 9/8/2019 7:22 pm : link
the problem is regardless of what you think of the playcalling, a lot of Shumurs system (which is just a cut down version of Andy Reid's system) is built on the QB having some mobility. All those naked bootlegs and rollout have a different dimension if the QB can run just a bit. Eli doesn't have that, Eli isn't great at the short passing game. That's the offense. He's a poor fit for it schematically and the defense is so fucking dire that there's really no point drawing this out.

Put in Jones. The oline is solid enough that he should be able to take his rookie lumps relatively safely. At a push, wait until the 5th game when Tate in here.
No  
mdthedream : 9/8/2019 7:22 pm : link
we can see that you should play the best player. He should learn know while we lose instead of next year saying the same damn thing over. The kid would have made this game a lot closer and he gives us the best chance to win.
Agree  
mdthedream : 9/8/2019 7:24 pm : link
so why play a QB that doesn't fit the system? Plus lets not kid ourselves he is done.
Yes  
noro9 : 9/8/2019 7:25 pm : link
No
RE: Eli wasn't great but he wasn't terrible  
Dutch77 : 9/8/2019 7:29 pm : link
In comment 14565845 bigbluescot said:
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the problem is regardless of what you think of the playcalling, a lot of Shumurs system (which is just a cut down version of Andy Reid's system) is built on the QB having some mobility. All those naked bootlegs and rollout have a different dimension if the QB can run just a bit. Eli doesn't have that, Eli isn't great at the short passing game. That's the offense. He's a poor fit for it schematically and the defense is so fucking dire that there's really no point drawing this out.

Put in Jones. The oline is solid enough that he should be able to take his rookie lumps relatively safely. At a push, wait until the 5th game when Tate in here.

If I want a QB to manage a game and throw underneath and give me 1 TD per game, I don’t have to pay him $20 + million to do it.
Love Eli but is expiration date is up.  
GiantsUA : 9/8/2019 7:29 pm : link
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RE: Jones should be starting and today isnt even a factor  
Ned In Atlanta : 9/8/2019 7:31 pm : link
In comment 14565654 j_rud said:
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Eli hasnt been bad. Left a few out there. Good enough to win with a competent D and better playcalling.

But this team isnt contending and you only get 5 years of cost control with a rookie. Jones shouldve been pencilled in since draft night.



Bingo
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