about the drive before half is they really were only ever going to come away with a FG anyway. And I would have actually tried the 61 yarder.
If posters really though a TD there was likely - they really are ignoring what Dallas was doing. On that drive, they were dropping 7 in coverage - and even 8 on a couple of plays.
about the drive before half is they really were only ever going to come away with a FG anyway. And I would have actually tried the 61 yarder.
If posters really though a TD there was likely - they really are ignoring what Dallas was doing. On that drive, they were dropping 7 in coverage - and even 8 on a couple of plays.
I was puzzled by the Hail Mary. Was there time for one more out pass to get closer and kick?
but if they do switch to Jones this season, why vs the Cowboys? Wait for an easier stretch to put him in.
Most likely after the bye. The way this team is structured now, esp defense, and Jones isn't starting after the bye. Then this org is completely screwed in the membrane. No sense not to
Eli has become a scapegoat for many, this is true. But the fact of Â
the matter is he isn't winning games for us anymore. In today's NFL once you sign a guy to a second contract he needs to be a guy that wins you games, not helps you win games and is a passenger. There is no reason to trot him out there anymore. We just showed what we are against the class of the NFL.
Are we winning a superbowl this year? Of course not. Eli got his protection and his defenders(including me optimistically), thought he could tear it up under those circumstances. He can't. There is no reason to not play DJ under this situation. We aren't throwing a rookie QB out in front of line that will ruin him forever.
Can someone please tell me what the fuck is the point of playing Eli anymore. And if someone tells me we can make the playoffs and you never know, well I just wish BBI had a block feature. This team is way too young and no longer has a QB that can pull off what Eli did in his prime. This game was a wake up call to how we stack up against the class of the NFL and for the first time in a long time I'm hoping we lose next week. It is just prolonging the inevitable. I'm actually expecting it to happen, the bills are decent and we are dogs.
RE: Eli was like when the Giants had Kurt Warner Â
Best days were in the past, the present is just a waste of Barkley's career.
This team needs a quicker, more mobile QB. They have one, who was drafted in the first round.
Just put him in!
Yes, Jones sure looked quick and more mobile on that fumble.
RE: RE: They were just guarding against someone jumping Â
but wanting Jones to start isnt a commentary on Eli's play. Theu couldve pulled out a come from behind win today and Id still probably want Jones to start. And it has nothing to do about what Eli did or didnt do, other than get (football) old.
They're not contending this year. Let Jones take his lumps and get acclimated. Thst way once the D gets straightened out in a year, maybe two, youre not waiting for the QB to get up to speed.
I love Eli. Left a few out there but played pretty well today. Well enough to win with a decent D and better playcalling. But its over.
Couldn't have said it better myself. And I still think if we can, and Jax is interested, we should send him there.
It's not to ride Eli out of town, it's to get him to safety. This isn't a good team. Not with Eli, and I don't think they'll be any better without him. But in the right environment, I think Eli can still win. And he's done enough for the Giants to deserve that chance if it's available.
The Giants on the other hand would benefit from having Jones take his warts this year. He will need to take them sooner or later, and why not do it in a pressure-less losing campaign where the expectations are set low. Tank the season, take another set of high draft picks, get the rookie QB some experience, and hopefully create a better opportunity at contending in 2020.
I was afraid this year would be a shitshow, and I'm still of that belief. The D will be putrid. The O would struggle to be average. Every game would draw calls to see the rookie, and Eli would ride out an awkward, lame duck season that would be painful to watch.
He hasn't done anything to win it. And when you are the highest paid player on the team tahts is the important part. Can't believe people don't get this.
game one. Throw him right into the deep end of the pool.
To win today required a shootout because the defense was so exposed for all the expected weaknesses. But I’m not sure we had the weapons to execute that regardless of the QB. Furthermore, and let’s give credit where credit is due, Dallas has very gifted or personnel on D and that’s a tall order.
And the jury is getting damn close to concluding that Shurmur doesn’t seems like a reliable playcaller, especially adjusting during the game.
So at this point does it really matter who plays QB? Because we may face this dilemma for much of the year - needing to light up the scoreboard.
If no, and you see the value in Jones’s mobility that I do, why not Jones?
game one. Throw him right into the deep end of the pool.
To win today required a shootout because the defense was so exposed for all the expected weaknesses. But I’m not sure we had the weapons to execute that regardless of the QB. Furthermore, and let’s give credit where credit is due, Dallas has very gifted or personnel on D and that’s a tall order.
And the jury is getting damn close to concluding that Shurmur doesn’t seems like a reliable playcaller, especially adjusting during the game.
So at this point does it really matter who plays QB? Because we may face this dilemma for much of the year - needing to light up the scoreboard.
If no, and you see the value in Jones’s mobility that I do, why not Jones?
If posters really though a TD there was likely - they really are ignoring what Dallas was doing. On that drive, they were dropping 7 in coverage - and even 8 on a couple of plays.
If posters really though a TD there was likely - they really are ignoring what Dallas was doing. On that drive, they were dropping 7 in coverage - and even 8 on a couple of plays.
I was puzzled by the Hail Mary. Was there time for one more out pass to get closer and kick?
Actually a Hail Mary is the sort of blind throw it up pass you seem to favor.
Most likely after the bye. The way this team is structured now, esp defense, and Jones isn't starting after the bye. Then this org is completely screwed in the membrane. No sense not to
Are we winning a superbowl this year? Of course not. Eli got his protection and his defenders(including me optimistically), thought he could tear it up under those circumstances. He can't. There is no reason to not play DJ under this situation. We aren't throwing a rookie QB out in front of line that will ruin him forever.
Can someone please tell me what the fuck is the point of playing Eli anymore. And if someone tells me we can make the playoffs and you never know, well I just wish BBI had a block feature. This team is way too young and no longer has a QB that can pull off what Eli did in his prime. This game was a wake up call to how we stack up against the class of the NFL and for the first time in a long time I'm hoping we lose next week. It is just prolonging the inevitable. I'm actually expecting it to happen, the bills are decent and we are dogs.
This team needs a quicker, more mobile QB. They have one, who was drafted in the first round.
Just put him in!
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the out pass for a pick-6...
Actually a Hail Mary is the sort of blind throw it up pass you seem to favor.
I wasn't the one puzzled by the Hail Mary...you were
They're not contending this year. Let Jones take his lumps and get acclimated. Thst way once the D gets straightened out in a year, maybe two, youre not waiting for the QB to get up to speed.
I love Eli. Left a few out there but played pretty well today. Well enough to win with a decent D and better playcalling. But its over.
Couldn't have said it better myself. And I still think if we can, and Jax is interested, we should send him there.
It's not to ride Eli out of town, it's to get him to safety. This isn't a good team. Not with Eli, and I don't think they'll be any better without him. But in the right environment, I think Eli can still win. And he's done enough for the Giants to deserve that chance if it's available.
The Giants on the other hand would benefit from having Jones take his warts this year. He will need to take them sooner or later, and why not do it in a pressure-less losing campaign where the expectations are set low. Tank the season, take another set of high draft picks, get the rookie QB some experience, and hopefully create a better opportunity at contending in 2020.
I was afraid this year would be a shitshow, and I'm still of that belief. The D will be putrid. The O would struggle to be average. Every game would draw calls to see the rookie, and Eli would ride out an awkward, lame duck season that would be painful to watch.
He did the last 6 seasons
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to losing the starting job.
He did the last 6 seasons
He hasn't done anything to win it. And when you are the highest paid player on the team tahts is the important part. Can't believe people don't get this.
To win today required a shootout because the defense was so exposed for all the expected weaknesses. But I’m not sure we had the weapons to execute that regardless of the QB. Furthermore, and let’s give credit where credit is due, Dallas has very gifted or personnel on D and that’s a tall order.
And the jury is getting damn close to concluding that Shurmur doesn’t seems like a reliable playcaller, especially adjusting during the game.
So at this point does it really matter who plays QB? Because we may face this dilemma for much of the year - needing to light up the scoreboard.
If no, and you see the value in Jones’s mobility that I do, why not Jones?
To win today required a shootout because the defense was so exposed for all the expected weaknesses. But I’m not sure we had the weapons to execute that regardless of the QB. Furthermore, and let’s give credit where credit is due, Dallas has very gifted or personnel on D and that’s a tall order.
And the jury is getting damn close to concluding that Shurmur doesn’t seems like a reliable playcaller, especially adjusting during the game.
So at this point does it really matter who plays QB? Because we may face this dilemma for much of the year - needing to light up the scoreboard.
If no, and you see the value in Jones’s mobility that I do, why not Jones?