talking about CC in October. Want him no where near pitching in a meaningful game
I don't either. He's only slightly better than Nestor Cortes at this point. Love his heart and what he has done and I really thought he should have retired last year.
talking about CC in October. Want him no where near pitching in a meaningful game
I don't either. He's only slightly better than Nestor Cortes at this point. Love his heart and what he has done and I really thought he should have retired last year.
My own bet is that he will somehow see a few innings if his knee permits -- which it may not. He can be effective at any point when he's on, if only for say three-plus or four. When he's not, well then it's a mistake to have put him in. Kind of true about a lot of pitchers.
talking about CC in October. Want him no where near pitching in a meaningful game
I don't either. He's only slightly better than Nestor Cortes at this point. Love his heart and what he has done and I really thought he should have retired last year.
My own bet is that he will somehow see a few innings if his knee permits -- which it may not. He can be effective at any point when he's on, if only for say three-plus or four. When he's not, well then it's a mistake to have put him in. Kind of true about a lot of pitchers.
Does CC for 3 innings really earn him a playoff spot? He'd be the 12th or 13th pitcher. And I can name 12 pitchers more useful at this point if Severino and Betances make it back, which looks to have a decent chance now. If Happ keeps up his recent success, he probably makes it. I originally had Happ off and CC maybe on. Not sure now.
Does CC for 3 innings really earn him a playoff spot? He'd be the 12th or 13th pitcher. And I can name 12 pitchers more useful at this point if Severino and Betances make it back, which looks to have a decent chance now. If Happ keeps up his recent success, he probably makes it. I originally had Happ off and CC maybe on. Not sure now.
I don't know either, especially about Severino and Bettances.
Hard to believe we're only in the top of the 7th. Tanaka has been out of there for a while so it wasn't all him. It's the batters hitting a lot, I guess -- 17 so far, to say nothing of foul balls, all with only one walk.
Hard to believe we're only in the top of the 7th. Tanaka has been out of there for a while so it wasn't all him. It's the batters hitting a lot, I guess -- 17 so far, to say nothing of foul balls, all with only one walk.
Hard to believe we're only in the top of the 7th. Tanaka has been out of there for a while so it wasn't all him. It's the batters hitting a lot, I guess -- 17 so far, to say nothing of foul balls, all with only one walk.
out? Could they be setting him up to follow Severino?
He's just killing them. And could give up a little without getting anyone hot and bothered. Interesting note about possibly being set up to follow Sevy. Could be.
The video of them streaming out at the beginning of the game to sit in that tiny warm-up area they have up there, described as like a marching band, was pretty funny.
7 are Hall of Famers
2 are A-Rod and Pujols
3 are Bryce Harper, Giancarlo Stanton, and Mike Trout
2 are Juan Gonzalez (2 time MVP) and Hal Trosky (best player never to be an All-Star?)
3 are Clay Bellinger, Ronald Acuna, AND Gleyber Torres
RE: I see 17 players all-time with 35+ HRs in a season by the age of 22...
7 are Hall of Famers
2 are A-Rod and Pujols
3 are Bryce Harper, Giancarlo Stanton, and Mike Trout
2 are Juan Gonzalez (2 time MVP) and Hal Trosky (best player never to be an All-Star?)
3 are Clay Bellinger, Ronald Acuna, AND Gleyber Torres
ARod was saying that the Yanks should lock up Torres now, 10 year deal. Can't say I disagree although Torres agent might think differently...I still think Torres will improve and at 22 he is still going to get stronger (now that is downright scary).
RE: RE: I see 17 players all-time with 35+ HRs in a season by the age of 22...
7 are Hall of Famers
2 are A-Rod and Pujols
3 are Bryce Harper, Giancarlo Stanton, and Mike Trout
2 are Juan Gonzalez (2 time MVP) and Hal Trosky (best player never to be an All-Star?)
3 are Clay Bellinger, Ronald Acuna, AND Gleyber Torres
ARod was saying that the Yanks should lock up Torres now, 10 year deal. Can't say I disagree although Torres agent might think differently...I still think Torres will improve and at 22 he is still going to get stronger (now that is downright scary).
Torres would be silly to enter into such a long-term deal unless there's someway to index it for inflation and the future value of the U.S. dollar. That is, from his point of view he would need to outthink all the world's central banks! Something shorter than ten years seems in order here with an opt-out provision for him..
7 are Hall of Famers
2 are A-Rod and Pujols
3 are Bryce Harper, Giancarlo Stanton, and Mike Trout
2 are Juan Gonzalez (2 time MVP) and Hal Trosky (best player never to be an All-Star?)
3 are Clay Bellinger, Ronald Acuna, AND Gleyber Torres
ARod was saying that the Yanks should lock up Torres now, 10 year deal. Can't say I disagree although Torres agent might think differently...I still think Torres will improve and at 22 he is still going to get stronger (now that is downright scary).
Other than the Yankees never getting a discount, any reason Torres doesn't get the Acuna deal?
RE: ARod loves talking contracts during telecasts.
That opt out convo was very interesting seeing as Arod conveniently left out that he really over played his hand after 2008 opting out. If the Yanks hadn't agreed to take him back at essentially the same $ he would have made way less. No one was paying him close to that besides the Yanks.
to borrow a line from Strahan, time to 'stomp them out'.
As in out of the playoffs, the impatient Sawx already
fired Dumbrowski, apparently wasn't getting along with people in the organization.
You knew they would have a fall guy for this season,
that's how they roll.
RE: RE: RE: I see 17 players all-time with 35+ HRs in a season by the age of 22...
Torres would be silly to enter into such a long-term deal unless there's someway to index it for inflation and the future value of the U.S. dollar. That is, from his point of view he would need to outthink all the world's central banks! Something shorter than ten years seems in order here with an opt-out provision for him..
Sure, he could play it out like Lindor. However, 100+ million dollars guaranteed is a LOT to turn down for a 22 year-old kid.
Not only that, but giving up a single to Leon.
I don't either. He's only slightly better than Nestor Cortes at this point. Love his heart and what he has done and I really thought he should have retired last year.
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talking about CC in October. Want him no where near pitching in a meaningful game
I don't either. He's only slightly better than Nestor Cortes at this point. Love his heart and what he has done and I really thought he should have retired last year.
My own bet is that he will somehow see a few innings if his knee permits -- which it may not. He can be effective at any point when he's on, if only for say three-plus or four. When he's not, well then it's a mistake to have put him in. Kind of true about a lot of pitchers.
Happ as long relief. And Sevy isn't starting by then, he's long relief.
I don't see a place for CC.
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talking about CC in October. Want him no where near pitching in a meaningful game
I don't either. He's only slightly better than Nestor Cortes at this point. Love his heart and what he has done and I really thought he should have retired last year.
My own bet is that he will somehow see a few innings if his knee permits -- which it may not. He can be effective at any point when he's on, if only for say three-plus or four. When he's not, well then it's a mistake to have put him in. Kind of true about a lot of pitchers.
Does CC for 3 innings really earn him a playoff spot? He'd be the 12th or 13th pitcher. And I can name 12 pitchers more useful at this point if Severino and Betances make it back, which looks to have a decent chance now. If Happ keeps up his recent success, he probably makes it. I originally had Happ off and CC maybe on. Not sure now.
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Does CC for 3 innings really earn him a playoff spot? He'd be the 12th or 13th pitcher. And I can name 12 pitchers more useful at this point if Severino and Betances make it back, which looks to have a decent chance now. If Happ keeps up his recent success, he probably makes it. I originally had Happ off and CC maybe on. Not sure now.
I don't know either, especially about Severino and Bettances.
That and what 6 or 7 pitchers for the Sox?
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Hard to believe we're only in the top of the 7th. Tanaka has been out of there for a while so it wasn't all him. It's the batters hitting a lot, I guess -- 17 so far, to say nothing of foul balls, all with only one walk.
That and what 6 or 7 pitchers for the Sox?
Six it is. True about what that does to time.
He's just killing them. And could give up a little without getting anyone hot and bothered. Interesting note about possibly being set up to follow Sevy. Could be.
The video of them streaming out at the beginning of the game to sit in that tiny warm-up area they have up there, described as like a marching band, was pretty funny.
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EE gets his, too. That strike one way inside put him off his stride.
nice win
The great agony is over...finally this game ends!
The great agony is over...finally this game ends!
Yeah I thought so too. Bad one to judge inside and a worse one to Eddie. And Eddie chewed on him a bit, too,
So glad that this is over. Glad they go to 28 men next year in September. Yankees-Red Sox is slow enough without 22 pitchers.
Ha - yeah later today...
2 are A-Rod and Pujols
3 are Bryce Harper, Giancarlo Stanton, and Mike Trout
2 are Juan Gonzalez (2 time MVP) and Hal Trosky (best player never to be an All-Star?)
3 are Clay Bellinger, Ronald Acuna, AND Gleyber Torres
2 are A-Rod and Pujols
3 are Bryce Harper, Giancarlo Stanton, and Mike Trout
2 are Juan Gonzalez (2 time MVP) and Hal Trosky (best player never to be an All-Star?)
3 are Clay Bellinger, Ronald Acuna, AND Gleyber Torres
ARod was saying that the Yanks should lock up Torres now, 10 year deal. Can't say I disagree although Torres agent might think differently...I still think Torres will improve and at 22 he is still going to get stronger (now that is downright scary).
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7 are Hall of Famers
2 are A-Rod and Pujols
3 are Bryce Harper, Giancarlo Stanton, and Mike Trout
2 are Juan Gonzalez (2 time MVP) and Hal Trosky (best player never to be an All-Star?)
3 are Clay Bellinger, Ronald Acuna, AND Gleyber Torres
ARod was saying that the Yanks should lock up Torres now, 10 year deal. Can't say I disagree although Torres agent might think differently...I still think Torres will improve and at 22 he is still going to get stronger (now that is downright scary).
Torres would be silly to enter into such a long-term deal unless there's someway to index it for inflation and the future value of the U.S. dollar. That is, from his point of view he would need to outthink all the world's central banks! Something shorter than ten years seems in order here with an opt-out provision for him..
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7 are Hall of Famers
2 are A-Rod and Pujols
3 are Bryce Harper, Giancarlo Stanton, and Mike Trout
2 are Juan Gonzalez (2 time MVP) and Hal Trosky (best player never to be an All-Star?)
3 are Clay Bellinger, Ronald Acuna, AND Gleyber Torres
ARod was saying that the Yanks should lock up Torres now, 10 year deal. Can't say I disagree although Torres agent might think differently...I still think Torres will improve and at 22 he is still going to get stronger (now that is downright scary).
Other than the Yankees never getting a discount, any reason Torres doesn't get the Acuna deal?
That opt out convo was very interesting seeing as Arod conveniently left out that he really over played his hand after 2008 opting out. If the Yanks hadn't agreed to take him back at essentially the same $ he would have made way less. No one was paying him close to that besides the Yanks.
Rangers have a bright future, at least
As in out of the playoffs, the impatient Sawx already
fired Dumbrowski, apparently wasn't getting along with people in the organization.
You knew they would have a fall guy for this season,
that's how they roll.
Torres would be silly to enter into such a long-term deal unless there's someway to index it for inflation and the future value of the U.S. dollar. That is, from his point of view he would need to outthink all the world's central banks! Something shorter than ten years seems in order here with an opt-out provision for him..
Sure, he could play it out like Lindor. However, 100+ million dollars guaranteed is a LOT to turn down for a 22 year-old kid.