was a horrible mistake, they should have brought in another vet on less money (like a Case Keenum type) and invested in bringing in some quality veterans on defense. This is a joke of a roster defensively. I think we might have the worst defense in the history of the NFL. It's a embarrassment. Eli shouldn't be in the NFL at all, let alone taking up 20 million in salary. Epic stupid decision by management.
If this year was truly about next year Eli wouldnt be starting. Remove the emotion. Theres no debating it.
You're a dope.
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you won't have ol' Eli to kick around anymore (soon). This year is about next year. Rather have Eli than Keenum for what would be a lost year regardless.
If this year was truly about next year Eli wouldnt be starting. Remove the emotion. Theres no debating it.
Eli, DJ, doesn't matter we were going to lose this game no matter what. I expect us to see DJ in the second half of the season.
Only on BBI do you get this kind of take
It’s almost like you’re happy about it. I think you would rather be right about Eli than have him do well and the Giants win. You are the worst kind of fan.
Yes its bad making Dak look like an MVP candidate...
But when you make Lamar Jackson look even better... Yikes.
But we continue to see Eli not really making a difference, so the clock ticks...
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He’s classy! He doesn’t throw teammates under the bus! He is going to make all the haters eat poop burgers this year now that he has a good offensive lie ad star running back
It’s almost like you’re happy about it. I think you would rather be right about Eli than have him do well and the Giants win. You are the worst kind of fan.
He is happy about it. He's one of those guys who disparages the team because odds are the team won't win the Super Bowl and that makes him "right". What it makes him is "pathetic".
Only on BBI do you get this kind of take
Only on BBI do we discuss this stuff, and if you do not think the game has passed Eli by then you need to watch the game more closely
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He’s classy! He doesn’t throw teammates under the bus! He is going to make all the haters eat poop burgers this year now that he has a good offensive lie ad star running back
It’s almost like you’re happy about it. I think you would rather be right about Eli than have him do well and the Giants win. You are the worst kind of fan.
Spot on. I think most of us know the reality with Eli, and are bummed to see his career wind down this way.
But a few fans are just itching to pile on like insufferable bitches when things don’t go well. It’s really sad.
And it's Eli's fault...
It's not Eli's fault directly but if the had another 18 million of cap space to spend on veteran defensive players there is no reason they couldn't be more competitive. Terrible management from the top.
Those of us who want Jones to start dont necessarily think Eli played poorly or that Jones wouldve won today.
Why does this seem an exceedingly difficult point to understand?
Give me improvement throughout the year and jones gets his feet wet at some point this season I’m good
Only on BBI do you get this kind of take
Only on BBI do you get THIS take. Your take is missing the entire point. Completely. It’s not entirely his fault. This team is years away. Why start an aging QB when rebuilding? Rip the bandaid. The cardinals have no more talent than we do but are getting their QB reps and getting a start on their future.
It’s absolutely bananas to trot out Eli when we’re in a rebuild (one which we put off for years, looking back at It 2016 was an exception not a rule)((furthermore, we weren’t even scoring in 2016)).
This is not on Eli. The problems run much higher up, dating back to the old FO honestly, but guess what... you need to move on from your past to move forward. If it’s not a PA pop pass or a 50/50 ball, we cannot drive the ball down field. We play It safe...if we had a upper tier defense It could work. If we’re down more than a TD does anyone have confidence we can take the lead back? I’ll eat my words (gladly) but i just don’t see It. It’s not Eli’s fault but it’s clear it’s time to move on.
Eli has always been relatively poor at these throws. In contrast to being pretty good looking down field. And tbf he's had stretches where he was good w/ them (2011 in particular). Also many said he's bad w/ small WRs, but IMO it's about catch radius w/ his less accurate ball. That's why even smaller Steve Smith or OBJ were still better, or at RB - Tiki, Shane Vereen, Barkley (maybe AB, tho his hands weren't on THAT level) were among his best RB targets by far - IMO seemed to coincide w/ better O yrs at times as well. While guys like Jacobs, Williams, Brown didn't have the hands, and Eli's lack of touch didn't help
Like it or not, and whether or not he pans out, DJ has been great at these, at least in college & practice / preseason to this point
No. 1966 Giants
Fair post...
...I dunno why we're getting yelled at about it...
but fair
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For fucks sake, its not about Eli! Lemme say that again: Its. Not. About. Eli. Its about being ready to move the franchise forward and let the new QB gain experience while the team is in transition.
Fair post...
...I dunno why we're getting yelled at about it...
but fair
Its addressed to those who cant seem to extricate their feelings about Eli from the discussion of whats best for the team.
Why Not? What did he do to help score more points? We know the defense sucks, that we all can agree on. Why is Mr. Manning not the story?
With this roster, we need the D to make more than 2 stops
It is fairly clear that the giants are likely they 4th team in this division and there aren’t a lot of wins on that schedule. You can lose with Eli or without eli, but not getting Jones valuable experience is just a waste of a season. There is no reason for Jones to have been on the sideline nearly the entire second half.
Rebuild in the NFL don’t take years anymore and the Giants need to know what they have in Jones sooner rather than later. It doesn’t take 4 years to know what you have in a qb anymore, you will have a good sense by the end of year two. Continuing to trot manning out for the sake of the past will hold the franchise back.
With this roster, we need the D to make more than 2 stops
Lol oh lord. Listen you have me with our D not being good. But an NFL offense just can’t shut down after being down a few TDS in 2019. It just can’t. In a few weeks when teams are in sync, teams will realistically understand that their D will possibly give 27 points plus. Which brings me back to my first point. We are rebuilding. We need to act as such. Rip the band aid. It’s not his fault but we need to turn to the future.
There is no benefit in having him here in his current capacity the way this team is currently constructed. All it is doing is delaying the real change that needs to take place to finally begin THE PROCESS.
Certainly underuntilized SB. IMO EE was key early, then not at all til garbage time. Seemed like they were using him like a conventional TE, button hooks / stop routes and what not, vs using his speed up against the D & leading him in stride. Poor playcall was huge no doubt but Eli didn't help that much even so
But Eli really wasn't all that good, nice comp% notwithstanding, bigger issues aside
TBF most people aren't just piling on Eli, everyone agrees the D was by far the biggest issue. And yet, you can have more than one issue...
But carry on calling others idiots...and quoting his slightly above avg passer rating of all things as some big indication of good performance
That was Spags claim to fame!
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21 points in the 1st qtr the gameplan of your Offense is changed drastically. You're now asking a team whose best receiver is sitting out to come back against one of the better defenses in the league. Being able to use SB in the running game becomes limited, when that goes so does the play-action that worked so well on the first drive.
With this roster, we need the D to make more than 2 stops
Lol oh lord. Listen you have me with our D not being good. But an NFL offense just can’t shut down after being down a few TDS in 2019. It just can’t. In a few weeks when teams are in sync, teams will realistically understand that their D will possibly give 27 points plus. Which brings me back to my first point. We are rebuilding. We need to act as such. Rip the band aid. It’s not his fault but we need to turn to the future.
There's no question we are rebuilding and are at least a year away. But with that said sticking a rook in there against this D is nothing more than a horrible idea.
The game was lost midway through the 2nd period, why risk our future when we have a QB on the last year of his contract who has zero blame for the loss?
Eli will start until they have 10 losses, but Jones will play some when the game gets out of hand.
Jones will play....maybe 4 full games and half of many others. He will show glimpses but fumbles a lot and generally not elevating the team.
Eli will finish with good stats, mostly in garbage time, and with a career record under .500.
We will get the 3rd pick, and pass on a QB because we want to take a longer look at Jones.
Next year will be chalked up as Jones' learning year. And Shurm and crew get to return for one more year.
Pretty soon it'll be 10 years since the Giants have won a playoff game.
The Cowboys but up 500 yards of offence...do you blame Eli for the 500 yards of offence the Cowboys put up??? Please let us know what Eli could have done to stop the Cowboys O today???
The problem with this board is too many low IQ MORONS are allowed to post!!! maybe Eric needs to allow vetted posters only...posters with a shred intelligence...DELETE YOUR POST YOU ARE PROVING YOURSELF TO BE AN IDIOT!!!