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Are we the only NFC East team running a 3-4 defense?

WinterIsComing : 9/8/2019 8:28 pm
I know some will say our defense is a hybrid, but all of our best defenses were base 4-3 defenses. I believe Dallas, Philly & Washington are all 4-3. Personally I have always believed that a 4-3 gives a team the best chance to stop the run and rush the QB. (If you have the right players of course).
Washington runs a 3-4  
BillT : 9/8/2019 8:29 pm : link
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Might want to talk to  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 8:31 pm : link
LT and Carson.
RE: Might want to talk to  
FStubbs : 9/8/2019 8:32 pm : link
In comment 14566322 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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LT and Carson.


For what it's worth, our defense wouldn't have looked any worse today if we dragged those two off the couch and started them out there today.
You cant run a 3-4  
lecky : 9/8/2019 8:32 pm : link
without great edge rushers. We have no edge rushers. The front three get no penetration. Although they did go against a great O Line. Can not be happy with this performance. Can only get better from here
for  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/8/2019 8:33 pm : link
years Giants fans begged for the team to go back to the 3-4. Now come the calls for the 4-3.

Itís not the scheme, itís the talent  
Ben in Tampa : 9/8/2019 8:35 pm : link
Giants do not have enough of it for either to be successful
The problem isn't the base defense.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/8/2019 8:36 pm : link
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RE: for  
giantstock : 9/8/2019 8:37 pm : link
In comment 14566338 Eric from BBI said:
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years Giants fans begged for the team to go back to the 3-4. Now come the calls for the 4-3.


I think those fans are the ones that also wanted and praised McAdoo.
Whats the difference?  
justafan : 9/8/2019 8:39 pm : link
The secondary would've looked like shit no matter what the front 7 scheme was. We'd still have no edge rushers no matter the scheme.
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GiantEgo : 9/8/2019 8:44 pm : link
Isn't it the case that defenses have become so flexible that 3-4,4-3 has lost most of its meaning?
Your defensive scheme needs to be dictated  
GiantFanInTX : 9/8/2019 8:44 pm : link
by the personnel you have on the roster. The Giants don't have anything close to quality 3-4 OLBs. There is no one on the team who can rush the passer. Every week is going to be similar. I don't care if you have 5 Deion Sanders out there. If you don't get pressure it's easy.
Just don't have the talent or not developed yet  
micky : 9/8/2019 8:45 pm : link
At key positons for the 3-4. Ie Lb'ers and a solid NT
Janoris Jenkins can't be your best player  
widmerseyebrow : 9/8/2019 8:48 pm : link
if you want to run either one.
If we ran a 4-3  
Jay on the Island : 9/8/2019 8:50 pm : link
who would play DE? Hill, Tomlinson, and Lawrence would all be DT's in a 4-3 scheme. Carter and Golden are too small to play DE full time as they would struggle vs the run. We still wouldn't have a pass rush.
3-4 or 4-3  
Darth Paul : 9/8/2019 8:51 pm : link
doesn't matter. Not even Friday and I learned it was all Eli's fault.
If Giants have a 3-4 base D  
Simms11 : 9/8/2019 8:57 pm : link
then they need to focus on improving the talent at LBer. LBer is the focus of a 3-4. We need an Edge Rusher OLB and an ILB tackling machine that can cover TEs. We might have some decent LBers now, but theyíre all very green and we havenít quite seen them do much yet. I think we need the dynamic LBer to elevate the D.
Betcher  
AnskyJK : 9/8/2019 9:01 pm : link
Heís proven to be successful as a DC with some talent. However I could see gettleman using him as a scapegoat at end of of the year
RE: for  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2019 9:01 pm : link
In comment 14566338 Eric from BBI said:
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years Giants fans begged for the team to go back to the 3-4. Now come the calls for the 4-3.


So true
RE: If we ran a 4-3  
giantstock : 9/8/2019 9:07 pm : link
In comment 14566440 Jay on the Island said:
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who would play DE? Hill, Tomlinson, and Lawrence would all be DT's in a 4-3 scheme. Carter and Golden are too small to play DE full time as they would struggle vs the run. We still wouldn't have a pass rush.


Instead of hiring Betcher you would have hired a coach more amenable to a 4-3. Thus you would have had 2 years to find two DT's. This year-- you could have drafted one. And you could have gotten another DT whether it be draft, trade, or FA.
It appeared to be  
morrison40 : 9/8/2019 9:14 pm : link
the 0-0 (ZERO) Defense, from the 70s playbook !
Dallas  
cokeduplt : 9/8/2019 9:21 pm : link
Is a 3-4
RE: Janoris Jenkins can't be your best player  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 10:31 pm : link
In comment 14566434 widmerseyebrow said:
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if you want to run either one.

I'm just glad he wasn't slipping on banana peels.
RE: RE: If we ran a 4-3  
giantstock : 9/8/2019 10:31 pm : link
In comment 14566525 giantstock said:
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In comment 14566440 Jay on the Island said:


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who would play DE? Hill, Tomlinson, and Lawrence would all be DT's in a 4-3 scheme. Carter and Golden are too small to play DE full time as they would struggle vs the run. We still wouldn't have a pass rush.



Instead of hiring Betcher you would have hired a coach more amenable to a 4-3. Thus you would have had 2 years to find two DT's. This year-- you could have drafted one. And you could have gotten another DT whether it be draft, trade, or FA.


I meant DE not DT.
Isn't..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/8/2019 10:33 pm : link
the only team who doesn't run a 3-4 is Philly?
The issue  
JoeyBigBlue : 9/8/2019 10:43 pm : link
We are running into is that we have 2 teams in our division that have elite lines in Dallas and Philly. Our young D-Line isnít gonna look against these teams.
RE: Itís not the scheme, itís the talent  
giantsFC : 9/9/2019 1:22 am : link
In comment 14566349 Ben in Tampa said:
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Giants do not have enough of it for either to be successful


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Please note  
Joey in VA : 9/9/2019 1:23 am : link
The Super Bowl last season was two teams who employ a 3-4. It's easier to find guys who fit it, but we've done it for ONE FUCKING YEAR. Calm the fuck down already, this team is young, bad and learning on the fly it's going to get worse before it gets better.
RE: Dallas  
Joey in VA : 9/9/2019 1:27 am : link
In comment 14566581 cokeduplt said:
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Is a 3-4
Wrong, 4-3 Tampa 2, it's Marinelli's scheme he used for years. Stop posting immediately if you think that's a 3-4, you are too dumb to type.
Uh...what??? Fucking moron. - ( New Window )
If we called it a 4-3 under  
AcesUp : 9/9/2019 1:39 am : link
would people want us to switch to a 3-4?
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