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exiled : 9/8/2019 9:55 pm
This first game sucked, despite some big, much-needed improvementsat the OL, for instance. The run defense looked good. But there are so many new, young players with some big shoes to fill. Their play will evolve.

Dallas has been projected as a top team this year with a core thats been playing together for a while now. Give our guys some time. I dont think this seasons team is as bad as it looked today.
It will be difficult  
ron mexico : 9/8/2019 9:56 pm : link
To be any worse
May improve  
micky : 9/8/2019 9:57 pm : link
But the defense is what it is. No sugar coating it
Agreed.  
bceagle05 : 9/8/2019 9:58 pm : link
I don't expect much from this team but New England is the only definite loss on the schedule over the next six weeks. I'm willing to give this a little time.
Don't be so sure  
GiantEgo : 9/8/2019 10:02 pm : link
it could very well get worse...much worse. I have no faith in Shurmer at this point. I hope I am wrong.
As painful as this game was to watch  
EJJ : 9/8/2019 10:04 pm : link
The team looked better than last year especially the line!
Eli looked sharp and Engram also made some plays.
Its a long season and with the schedule 8-8 or 9-7 is a possibility if the rookies improve.
Schurmer's play calling is concerning as I feel he really needs to pound Barkley 20 to 25 carries a game. Keep the D off the field! Also need a better return game.
Shurmur.....  
thrunthrublue : 9/8/2019 10:25 pm : link
Is a proven loser at the head coaching/nfl level. Its what he does, he generates losing records. Who were the other candidates.....makes you wonder. The only thing guaranteed with shurmur, is: no playoff appearances and high value draft picks......thats about it.
RE: Shurmur.....  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/8/2019 10:59 pm : link
In comment 14566857 thrunthrublue said:
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Is a proven loser at the head coaching/nfl level. Its what he does, he generates losing records. Who were the other candidates.....makes you wonder. The only thing guaranteed with shurmur, is: no playoff appearances and high value draft picks......thats about it.

We really should have hired Vrabel. He would have ensured I do not have to endure again shitgrinning Jerry and Garett out coaching Shurmur.
One of the few rational threads tonight  
Scuzzlebutt : 9/8/2019 11:15 pm : link
(at least the original post). If you didnt expect bumps with this young D you werent being realistic. Most of the major issues in the secondary were mental mistakes. That is the good news. Those can be fixed.

With that said, I dont think Hamilton should be on the field. At least put in Ballentine or Love and let them learn something.
Who is going to fix the mental mistakes?  
Frank from CA : 9/8/2019 11:23 pm : link
Very few players executed well. This coaching staff has the defense playing worse. Is the coordinator capable of fixing mental mistakes in a dozen players or so? It doesn't seem that the pre-season and practices will be sufficient to get the defense actually prepared to play an NFL game.
We are talking about a lot of young guys with very little experience.  
Scuzzlebutt : 9/8/2019 11:32 pm : link
They really cant get any worse. Lets see what happens over the next week or so.

It was ugly today, but it was one game.
Agree  
lugnut : 9/8/2019 11:39 pm : link
We will improve. The D was bound to be shaky -- youth/rookies, first game, against solid opponent -- and it was.

If we had to be bad and lose, I'm almost glad we were THAT bad. DeAndre "Mr. I Didn't Allow a TD in My Last 2 Years of College" Baker got completely toasted for a long TD. Good, come back down to earth and get hungry for the next game. Jones got on the field for 2 minutes, and fumbled -- again. Good, value your time there, be embarrassed, and vow not to do it again.

Agree Hamilton needs to go -- but he is one guy.
8-25  
joeinpa : 9/9/2019 5:24 am : link
Right now hard to optimistic about a refrain that has been repeated more than once over the past two easing, but hope you re right.

Right now this season seems more like a watch and wait game for when Jones starts the new era.

Hard to see this defense improving to the pt where Eli gets to keep his job.
but we are going to win a game right?  
mdthedream : 9/9/2019 6:32 am : link
I didn't see anyone stepping up when the coach quit. Coach Phil Weston but there is a I in WIN.
RE: We are talking about a lot of young guys with very little experience.  
5BowlsSoon : 9/9/2019 6:38 am : link
In comment 14567015 Scuzzlebutt said:
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They really cant get any worse. Lets see what happens over the next week or so.

It was ugly today, but it was one game.


I usually stay away from here after losses because many people speak out of anger and emotion rather than out of logic and common sense.

Like you said, we are very very young on defense, so if anyone expected a bunch of first year players to come in a dominate a playoff team week one is either delusional or I hate to say it, not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

I agree, our defense should evolve as they young men mature through experience and we wont be playing teams with a superior OL every week you know.
Agree  
mdthedream : 9/9/2019 6:52 am : link
defense is young and I expected Dallas to score points. I was more upset with the offense as they should have scored a lot of points yesterday. Eli needs to go and Giants need to make the change.
Definitely  
JoeyBigBlue : 9/9/2019 6:57 am : link
Cant look any worse on D.
RE: 8-25  
rocco8112 : 9/9/2019 7:16 am : link
In comment 14567148 joeinpa said:
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Right now hard to optimistic about a refrain that has been repeated more than once over the past two easing, but hope you re right.

Right now this season seems more like a watch and wait game for when Jones starts the new era.

Hard to see this defense improving to the pt where Eli gets to keep his job.


Agreed, except we will need a new HC as well.
RE: Agree  
rocco8112 : 9/9/2019 7:16 am : link
In comment 14567179 mdthedream said:
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defense is young and I expected Dallas to score points. I was more upset with the offense as they should have scored a lot of points yesterday. Eli needs to go and Giants need to make the change.


Score points? They were non-competitive. Dallas could have put up a fifty burger of they wanted to.
This is just 1 game  
giantstock : 9/9/2019 8:22 am : link
I expect them to perform much better at home. GMEn were projected to be 6-10. I wouldn't go jumping off a cliff after 1 game.

Most of us thought 2020 was key year. We got blitzed away from home by a very good football team. That shit happens. On to the next. The defense was projected ot be a big weakness but also projected to improve. Let's see if they imrpove. Hopefully they will.

Also-- let's see if the coaching staff improves. In particular imo Shurmur. Stop rolling out Eli while you are getting good protection. and give the ball to Barkley more on 3rd and short or 4th and short. Think of something more creative if you don't think he has the power.
RE: This is just 1 game  
crick n NC : 9/9/2019 8:22 am : link
In comment 14567347 giantstock said:
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I expect them to perform much better at home. GMEn were projected to be 6-10. I wouldn't go jumping off a cliff after 1 game.

Most of us thought 2020 was key year. We got blitzed away from home by a very good football team. That shit happens. On to the next. The defense was projected ot be a big weakness but also projected to improve. Let's see if they imrpove. Hopefully they will.

Also-- let's see if the coaching staff improves. In particular imo Shurmur. Stop rolling out Eli while you are getting good protection. and give the ball to Barkley more on 3rd and short or 4th and short. Think of something more creative if you don't think he has the power.


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Good post Stock
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