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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/9/2019 6:20 pm



Here is the video!
Giants Chronicles: Inside the legendary career of Carl - ( New Window )
That is awesome  
Emil : 9/9/2019 6:21 pm : link
Congratulations!
Haha Very cool  
HomerJones45 : 9/9/2019 6:21 pm : link
Well done Larry!
Awesome  
DavidinBMNY : 9/9/2019 6:22 pm : link
Well done and way to go!
That's well deserved, Larry has earned that title  
jcn56 : 9/9/2019 6:28 pm : link
his work here is top notch - congrats!
excellent!  
Jints in Carolina : 9/9/2019 6:33 pm : link
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The team should hire him  
dpinzow : 9/9/2019 6:35 pm : link
His team histories are as good as Iíve read on any team...superbly written
RE: The team should hire him  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/9/2019 6:38 pm : link
In comment 14569115 dpinzow said:
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His team histories are as good as Iíve read on any team...superbly written


He's actually found errors in the media guide, using archived sources (newspapers, etc.) as references.
That's awesome Larry!  
Matt in SGS : 9/9/2019 6:44 pm : link
you are the man!
So cool!  
Moondawg : 9/9/2019 6:45 pm : link
Congrats, Larry!
That was a great video  
steve in ky : 9/9/2019 7:00 pm : link
it brought back a lot of memories.

Does Carl Lockhart JR work for the Giants organization?
That is so awesome and deserved.  
BigBlue in Keys : 9/9/2019 7:04 pm : link
I always love the history articles. Way to go Larry!
Thanks.  
truebluelarry : 9/9/2019 7:20 pm : link
That was a really good episode, but I can't take any credit for it. They had a lot of good highlights and Spider's stroy just kind of tells itself. My job was pretty much to put the highlights in context as a set-up guy.

Carl Jr. doesn't work for the Giants, they invited him in for the show. His interview was right after mine. I sat next to his wife and we talked and was able to meet him later on as the film crew invited us all to stay for lunch at the Giants cafeteria. He was a very nice guy and overall it was a great day.

I mentioned this in the thread last week, but in case you missed it - they had me down to the timex Performance Center one day back in March. I was told to prepare for 6 players to discuss in detail, Speder was just one. After we covered the 6, the producer just started firing off random questions at me and I had to do a bunch of ad-libbing on the spot.

So, in theory, I could end up in 6 or more episodes this season. It also could be less, its all about surviving the editing process. The director told me there are 16 episodes each season and 2 directors, they get 8 each and alternate weeks as the deadline pressure on the week their show airs in incredible intense. He actually didn't finish the Spider episode until Thursday. During the week he had emailed me several times asking me questions and comfirming fact checking, so it's a week-to-week thing as to knowing whether or not I'll be in another one. the other director has this week's show, my next chance will be next week. We'll see as the season moves along.
So cool, Larry...  
rnargi : 9/9/2019 7:39 pm : link
..and we'll deserved!
Awesome!  
ChathamMark : 9/9/2019 7:43 pm : link
Congrats Larry! (and who cannot like the Big Blue Interactive Historian moniker...)
(chanting)  
Adam G in Big D : 9/9/2019 7:46 pm : link
Larry!
Larry!
Larry!
congrats  
bc4life : 9/9/2019 7:51 pm : link
nice work
Larry - I always enjoy your work.  
Red Dog : 9/9/2019 8:14 pm : link
Thanks for recalling these great memories, and for teaching us about the Big Blue warriors who went before we were paying attention.
Congrats!  
Sneakers O'toole : 9/9/2019 8:17 pm : link
Made me wish I old enough to have seen Spider play. I only know him as a historic player.
That was a neat video...Larry really great job...  
JCin332 : 9/9/2019 8:19 pm : link
nice to have you posting here...
Thanks Larry  
Marty866b : 9/9/2019 8:25 pm : link
That was just great! Those are the Giants teams that I grew up with and it brought back memories. I found it interesting that those Giant teams that Spider played on were weak defensively but far better then the one we saw yesterday.
Great  
AcidTest : 9/9/2019 8:27 pm : link
work Larry!
Outstanding!  
ij_reilly : 9/9/2019 8:40 pm : link
This is very cool, congratulations Larry.
That's really cool  
GiantSteps : 9/9/2019 8:48 pm : link
congrats
what  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/9/2019 9:16 pm : link
a great overview of Lockhart!
I so appriciate this  
NewBlue : 9/9/2019 9:56 pm : link
The memories of my dad taking me to those games at Yankee Stadium.....I vividly remember Spider and met him at Gallagher's Steak house one Sunday after a game.
Those teams for the most part were not good, but those years were my initiation so to speak as a Giants fan....

Thanks Spider and thanks dad RIP both
That was great...  
EricJ : 9/9/2019 10:02 pm : link
thanks for linking to the video
That was awesome  
tikimvp : 9/9/2019 11:43 pm : link
I'm a 37 year-old fan with a decent knowledge of giants history, yet I had never heard of Spider. That was so interesting, what a great guy and seemingly awesome player.
Wow congrats Larry  
Stu11 : 9/10/2019 9:06 am : link
Thanks for posting Eric I loved watching that. Really well done. Seems like he was a great guy, and his wife seems wonderful too. I started watching around 76-77 so I just missed Spider. Always remember them wearing the patch in '86. Loved seeing the old highlights. Hope some of your other contributions make the cut Larry.
Awesome  
JonC : 9/10/2019 9:15 am : link
!
RE: what  
liteamorn : 9/10/2019 9:25 am : link
In comment 14569421 Eric from BBI said:
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a great overview of Lockhart!


Sure was, I remember all of that, and when I heard the name Allie Sherman? I had to start singing "Good Bye Allie, Good Bye Allie... Gooood Bye ALLIE we hate to see you go.

Spider was one of the bright spots of some dismal years.

Thank you Larry for a great history lesson and thank you Eric for pointing it out.
Excellent.  
Beezer : 9/10/2019 9:33 am : link
Congrats, Larry!
Score one for the good guys...  
kinard : 9/10/2019 10:10 am : link
... so much good work over the years, Larry. Great to see you get some much deserved recognition.

Next up is the Emmy Award - Best supporting role in sports documentary
His death and the 86 patch is how I first learned of Spider  
Sneakers O'toole : 9/10/2019 11:25 am : link
My Uncle's favorite Giant.
Ha!  
Johnny5 : 9/10/2019 11:29 am : link
That is so very cool. Good job Larry!
RE: That was awesome  
PatersonPlank : 9/10/2019 11:35 am : link
In comment 14569665 tikimvp said:
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I'm a 37 year-old fan with a decent knowledge of giants history, yet I had never heard of Spider. That was so interesting, what a great guy and seemingly awesome player.


Never heard of Spider? Also look into Ron Johnson. The shining stars of a crappy era
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truebluelarry : 9/10/2019 11:41 am : link
In comment 14570163 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 14569665 tikimvp said:


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I'm a 37 year-old fan with a decent knowledge of giants history, yet I had never heard of Spider. That was so interesting, what a great guy and seemingly awesome player.



Never heard of Spider? Also look into Ron Johnson. The shining stars of a crappy era


Ron Johnson was one of the players they had me study up on. That'll be an episode later this season.
Larry  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/10/2019 11:43 am : link
what I thought was cool was the discussion of Willie Williams too. Remember our discussion about him when it came to the all-time Giants list?
RE: Larry  
truebluelarry : 9/10/2019 11:49 am : link
In comment 14570179 Eric from BBI said:
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what I thought was cool was the discussion of Willie Williams too. Remember our discussion about him when it came to the all-time Giants list?


Yes I do! There was a lot more in Carl Jr.'s interview that didn't make the show where he was telling stories about being a kid growing up and all these Giants would be over the house during the week. Spider and Williams were good friends and socialized off the field. Some of that was alluded to where he talked about the teaming being close and having a sense of family, despite the fact that they had losing records most of those years.
typo  
truebluelarry : 9/10/2019 11:50 am : link
should read: "team being close"
RE: typo  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/10/2019 11:58 am : link
In comment 14570197 truebluelarry said:
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should read: "team being close"


I just eye-balled the article... we may want to revisit it at some point in the coming years, especially in light of how Victor Cruz's career ended prematurely. Also, Manning and DeOssie's careers will be ending soon.
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truebluelarry : 9/10/2019 12:15 pm : link
In comment 14570216 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14570197 truebluelarry said:


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should read: "team being close"



I just eye-balled the article... we may want to revisit it at some point in the coming years, especially in light of how Victor Cruz's career ended prematurely. Also, Manning and DeOssie's careers will be ending soon.


Definitely. I've talked to some other history-minded people and we think there needs to be a 4th era beginning after 2010 called the "Post Lock-Out Era" because the game has changed so dramatically since then.

That's a great off season project.
truebluelarry  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/10/2019 12:21 pm : link
My family is so tired of me saying during pro and college games, "The game is so different now!... My God, look at how often teams are in the shot gun!.... look at this crazy formation!"
truebluelarry  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/10/2019 12:22 pm : link
You will see teams go 4 wide, in the shot gun, on 1st-and-goal from the 4-yard line. It's nuts.
This is so great.  
Jan in DC : 9/10/2019 12:23 pm : link
I had heard of Spider Lockhart, but didn't know much about him. What a great overview and a credit to you Larry. Thanks for sharing!
RE: truebluelarry  
truebluelarry : 9/10/2019 12:32 pm : link
In comment 14570274 Eric from BBI said:
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You will see teams go 4 wide, in the shot gun, on 1st-and-goal from the 4-yard line. It's nuts.


It is, i read an article a while back where a coach called it "Basketball On Grass."

It's part of the reason that I've become and Army fan in college football, I love watching them run the triple option, the way they execute in sync is its beautiful to watch. But its also old fashioned smash-mouth football. The only other way to enjoy watching something like that is old games from the 1980s on YouTube.
truebluelarry  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/10/2019 12:41 pm : link
I was watching a Giants highlight tape from the early 90s, and in the rain in Washington, there was a really cool sweep to the right with Rodney Hampton running ball. But the best part of the play was how the guards got in front of Hampton and just crushed everyone in their path. The play was beautifully synchronized.
RE: truebluelarry  
truebluelarry : 9/10/2019 12:54 pm : link
In comment 14570310 Eric from BBI said:
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I was watching a Giants highlight tape from the early 90s, and in the rain in Washington, there was a really cool sweep to the right with Rodney Hampton running ball. But the best part of the play was how the guards got in front of Hampton and just crushed everyone in their path. The play was beautifully synchronized.


Just like Vince Lombardi taught it was West Point in the 1940s then brought to the Giants in the 1950s then Green Bay in the 1960s. It never goes out of style.
truebluelarry  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/10/2019 12:58 pm : link
As my wife and I were leaving a high school football game on Friday (my son plays in the band), I was telling her about Lombardi and the Packers sweep and how they would just run the same play over and over, but since it was so well executed, the other team couldn't stop it.

The reason I brought this up is you can see even these high school teams are getting too cute. The fundamentals aren't there.
This  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/10/2019 1:01 pm : link
is great...
Lombardi Sweep - ( New Window )
RE: RE: truebluelarry  
Del Shofner : 9/10/2019 1:16 pm : link
In comment 14570291 truebluelarry said:
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It's part of the reason that I've become an Army fan in college football, I love watching them run the triple option, the way they execute in sync is its beautiful to watch.


I live part time in the Hudson Valley now and Army football is always the #1 sports story on the local cable news channel. Like you, I've become an Army fan and I love watching them play. It's so old school. Thing is - they give away size etc. to a lot of opponents - but they're always competitive because they know how to play their style of football so well.
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truebluelarry : 9/10/2019 1:17 pm : link
In comment 14570372 Del Shofner said:
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In comment 14570291 truebluelarry said:


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It's part of the reason that I've become an Army fan in college football, I love watching them run the triple option, the way they execute in sync is its beautiful to watch.



I live part time in the Hudson Valley now and Army football is always the #1 sports story on the local cable news channel. Like you, I've become an Army fan and I love watching them play. It's so old school. Thing is - they give away size etc. to a lot of opponents - but they're always competitive because they know how to play their style of football so well.


As they proved at Oklahoma and Michigan the past two seasons!
RE: truebluelarry  
truebluelarry : 9/10/2019 1:19 pm : link
In comment 14570341 Eric from BBI said:
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As my wife and I were leaving a high school football game on Friday (my son plays in the band), I was telling her about Lombardi and the Packers sweep and how they would just run the same play over and over, but since it was so well executed, the other team couldn't stop it.

The reason I brought this up is you can see even these high school teams are getting too cute. The fundamentals aren't there.


And when Lombardi senses the defense was slowing down the sweep, he'd keep them honest with Gifford or Hornung throwing an option pass. Deception works best when the fundamentals are sound.
RE: RE: truebluelarry  
Matt in SGS : 9/10/2019 1:38 pm : link
In comment 14570381 truebluelarry said:
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In comment 14570341 Eric from BBI said:


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As my wife and I were leaving a high school football game on Friday (my son plays in the band), I was telling her about Lombardi and the Packers sweep and how they would just run the same play over and over, but since it was so well executed, the other team couldn't stop it.

The reason I brought this up is you can see even these high school teams are getting too cute. The fundamentals aren't there.



And when Lombardi senses the defense was slowing down the sweep, he'd keep them honest with Gifford or Hornung throwing an option pass. Deception works best when the fundamentals are sound.


John Madden did an interview years ago that he went to a coaching clinic and Lombardi was presenting. Madden said at the time he was a young coach, and thought he had it all down, and he went into the presentation thinking it would be a joke. He said that Lombardi went into such detail for a few hours on the sweep and how it was run, and Madden said at that moment he realized how much he didn't understand about coaching and Lombardi blew his mind and basically humbled him.
Matt  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/10/2019 1:52 pm : link
Madden is talking about that in that clip I posted above.
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truebluelarry : 9/10/2019 1:57 pm : link
In comment 14570405 Matt in SGS said:
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In comment 14570381 truebluelarry said:


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In comment 14570341 Eric from BBI said:


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As my wife and I were leaving a high school football game on Friday (my son plays in the band), I was telling her about Lombardi and the Packers sweep and how they would just run the same play over and over, but since it was so well executed, the other team couldn't stop it.

The reason I brought this up is you can see even these high school teams are getting too cute. The fundamentals aren't there.



And when Lombardi senses the defense was slowing down the sweep, he'd keep them honest with Gifford or Hornung throwing an option pass. Deception works best when the fundamentals are sound.



John Madden did an interview years ago that he went to a coaching clinic and Lombardi was presenting. Madden said at the time he was a young coach, and thought he had it all down, and he went into the presentation thinking it would be a joke. He said that Lombardi went into such detail for a few hours on the sweep and how it was run, and Madden said at that moment he realized how much he didn't understand about coaching and Lombardi blew his mind and basically humbled him.


Right, I think Madden said Lombardi talked about the one play for 8 hours, detailing each individual's assignment.
This is great!  
NYG007 : 9/10/2019 2:08 pm : link
So great to read, awesome post.
Thatís great!  
Steve L : 9/10/2019 4:07 pm : link
Congrats!
totally awesome...  
BillKo : 9/10/2019 4:32 pm : link
congrats Larry!!!
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