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section125 : 9/9/2019 6:21 pm
A win tonight eliminates the Sox from the division.

I will look for the lineups...
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Err...  
rnargi : 9/9/2019 9:41 pm : link
Big Maple, lol.
I would set up the playoff rotation for both a 5 and 7 game series  
dpinzow : 9/9/2019 9:44 pm : link
with Paxton pitching games 1 and 5, provided we start the series at home. If we start a series on the road, Tanaka pitches games 1 and 5
RE: Paxton  
Eman11 : 9/9/2019 9:44 pm : link
In comment 14569474 Percy said:
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Great job. Convincing.


Yeah he's been fantastic for a while now. This is the guy we traded for and need come playoff time. The guy has great stuff, and his swing and miss pitches are real impressive.
RE: Dominant performance for Map'....  
section125 : 9/9/2019 9:44 pm : link
In comment 14569472 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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somehow a bum got on base 3 times.


He should have pitched to Bradley..even meatballs.I hate walks to the #9 hitter.
Playoff rotation setups if I were manager  
dpinzow : 9/9/2019 9:47 pm : link
Home field advantage:

Game 1: Paxton
Game 2: German
Game 3: Tanaka
Game 4: Severino as a 4-5 inning guy, then the pen
Game 5: Paxton
Game 6 (in LCS or World Series): German
Game 7: Tanaka

Without home field advantage:

Game 1: Tanaka
Game 2: Severino as a 4-5 inning guy, then the pen
Game 3: Paxton
Game 4: German
Game 5: Tanaka
Game 6: Severino as a 4-5 inning guy, then the pen
Game 7: Paxton
Haha Devers pulls a Gardy with the helmet  
Eman11 : 9/9/2019 9:47 pm : link
Anyone else catch that? Pissed off he struck out and slammed his helmet down hard and it bounced right back up and hit him in the mug. Lol.
That pitch called a strike  
section125 : 9/9/2019 9:48 pm : link
that Devers complained about. I'd bet $20 that on the overhead camera it did cross the plate. The spot showed where Romine caught it just off the plate, but 3 feet before where he caught it, it was over the plate.
Harkey man you had 1 godamn job! Lol  
Stu11 : 9/9/2019 9:50 pm : link
No one in the stadium was rooting harder to get out of that that inning.
JBJ plays like Rickey Henderson against the Yanks  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/9/2019 9:50 pm : link
and Bubba Crosby versus everyone else.
German's home/away splits are so drastic  
dpinzow : 9/9/2019 9:51 pm : link
he is lights out at Yankee Stadium with a 2.35 ERA in 11 starts, and gets hammered on the road with a 5.73 ERA in 14 starts
RE: Playoff rotation setups if I were manager  
section125 : 9/9/2019 9:51 pm : link
In comment 14569492 dpinzow said:
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Home field advantage:

Game 1: Paxton
Game 2: German
Game 3: Tanaka
Game 4: Severino as a 4-5 inning guy, then the pen
Game 5: Paxton
Game 6 (in LCS or World Series): German
Game 7: Tanaka

Without home field advantage:

Game 1: Tanaka
Game 2: Severino as a 4-5 inning guy, then the pen
Game 3: Paxton
Game 4: German
Game 5: Tanaka
Game 6: Severino as a 4-5 inning guy, then the pen
Game 7: Paxton


dp, I'd bet by that time, Severino will be up to over 80 pitches. He was 55 last time. Bet he is at about 70 this time and I think there will be 2 more starts after that.
RE: JBJ plays like Rickey Henderson against the Yanks  
section125 : 9/9/2019 9:54 pm : link
In comment 14569496 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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and Bubba Crosby versus everyone else.


Not true. JBJ is a very good CF. Many people argue that Benintendi, Bradley and Betts is the best defensive OF in baseball.
I know he's an excellent defensive player.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/9/2019 9:55 pm : link
I was just annoyed.

Ursh starting to heat up again.
RE: Playoff rotation setups if I were manager  
Eman11 : 9/9/2019 9:57 pm : link
In comment 14569492 dpinzow said:
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Home field advantage:

Game 1: Paxton
Game 2: German
Game 3: Tanaka
Game 4: Severino as a 4-5 inning guy, then the pen
Game 5: Paxton
Game 6 (in LCS or World Series): German
Game 7: Tanaka

Without home field advantage:

Game 1: Tanaka
Game 2: Severino as a 4-5 inning guy, then the pen
Game 3: Paxton
Game 4: German
Game 5: Tanaka
Game 6: Severino as a 4-5 inning guy, then the pen
Game 7: Paxton


I could live with that. I like you having German at home no matter the game and it's what I've been saying for a while now. Not only do his stats show he's better at home but I think in a pressure game he'd just feel more comfortable at home as well. Put the guy in the best position to succeed and that's at the Stadium.
FWIW, Voit has smacked the  
section125 : 9/9/2019 9:58 pm : link
ball very well tonight. He has had a few hard hit liners in this series. Maybe he is about to start raking?
RE: RE: Playoff rotation setups if I were manager  
dpinzow : 9/9/2019 10:01 pm : link
In comment 14569500 section125 said:
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Home field advantage:

Game 1: Paxton
Game 2: German
Game 3: Tanaka
Game 4: Severino as a 4-5 inning guy, then the pen
Game 5: Paxton
Game 6 (in LCS or World Series): German
Game 7: Tanaka

Without home field advantage:

Game 1: Tanaka
Game 2: Severino as a 4-5 inning guy, then the pen
Game 3: Paxton
Game 4: German
Game 5: Tanaka
Game 6: Severino as a 4-5 inning guy, then the pen
Game 7: Paxton



dp, I'd bet by that time, Severino will be up to over 80 pitches. He was 55 last time. Bet he is at about 70 this time and I think there will be 2 more starts after that.


If Sevy comes back and dominates then that's a nice problem to have. I'd still pitch him and Tanaka away. Tanaka is the most mentally sturdy pitcher we have and Severino has the most dominant stuff that can shut an opponent down regardless of park.

Paxton being a lefty is more advantageous at Yankee Stadium than on the road as he gets to pitch to the deeper part of the park against lots of right-handed power. Additionally, Paxton would try to neutralize an opponent's lefty power by making them hit the other way, away from the short porch. German is brilliant at Yankee Stadium but gets crushed on the road
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section125 : 9/9/2019 10:05 pm : link
In comment 14569520 dpinzow said:
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If Sevy comes back and dominates then that's a nice problem to have. I'd still pitch him and Tanaka away. Tanaka is the most mentally sturdy pitcher we have and Severino has the most dominant stuff that can shut an opponent down regardless of park.

Paxton being a lefty is more advantageous at Yankee Stadium than on the road as he gets to pitch to the deeper part of the park against lots of right-handed power. Additionally, Paxton would try to neutralize an opponent's lefty power by making them hit the other way, away from the short porch. German is brilliant at Yankee Stadium but gets crushed on the road


Yeah, I like your rotation(s). I'm just thinking we will get more innings from Sevy if he continues pain free. I was thinking German/Sevy combo or Green/Sevy combo last week before the news came back of Sevy doing well.

What is with this  
section125 : 9/9/2019 10:09 pm : link
Gearinn guy? Is he for real? He has good stuff and I think he's only had the one bad performance on the night the umps improperly effed with him.
I was thinking the same thing about him...  
rnargi : 9/9/2019 10:10 pm : link
..he's 33 years old.
Booo, EE with the  
section125 : 9/9/2019 10:24 pm : link
weak ass pop up....
Does Voit look like  
section125 : 9/9/2019 10:25 pm : link
he's lost about 15 lbs?
RE: Does Voit look like  
Percy : 9/9/2019 10:27 pm : link
In comment 14569581 section125 said:
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he's lost about 15 lbs?

10 maybe.
RE: RE: Does Voit look like  
section125 : 9/9/2019 10:28 pm : link
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he's lost about 15 lbs?


10 maybe.


Yep, just leaner. Maybe from the rehab on the hernia...
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dpinzow : 9/9/2019 10:28 pm : link
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If Sevy comes back and dominates then that's a nice problem to have. I'd still pitch him and Tanaka away. Tanaka is the most mentally sturdy pitcher we have and Severino has the most dominant stuff that can shut an opponent down regardless of park.

Paxton being a lefty is more advantageous at Yankee Stadium than on the road as he gets to pitch to the deeper part of the park against lots of right-handed power. Additionally, Paxton would try to neutralize an opponent's lefty power by making them hit the other way, away from the short porch. German is brilliant at Yankee Stadium but gets crushed on the road



Yeah, I like your rotation(s). I'm just thinking we will get more innings from Sevy if he continues pain free. I was thinking German/Sevy combo or Green/Sevy combo last week before the news came back of Sevy doing well.


--I trust Tanaka to deal with a crazy road crowd
--Severino isn't a kid anymore; when he returns he gets big boy responsibility because his stuff can shut down a lineup regardless of location
--Paxton being a lefty should get priority pitching at home, plus his form has improved to the point where he can credibly pitch against another team's ace
--German will be fired up by the home crowd but could wilt against a playoff crowd in Minnesota or Houston (most likely opponents)
Gardy needs time off.  
section125 : 9/9/2019 10:31 pm : link
His ABs are so weak. He's been super resilient this year, but it looks like he needs a few days off. Defense is fine, but the ABs are bad.
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Percy : 9/9/2019 10:33 pm : link
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he's lost about 15 lbs?


10 maybe.



Yep, just leaner. Maybe from the rehab on the hernia...

I don't see how he can be playing with that thing. He does, but it's hard for me to understand why he isn't disabled by it.
Who the fuck is  
section125 : 9/9/2019 10:33 pm : link
Tyler Lyons? Never heard of him before this week.
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section125 : 9/9/2019 10:36 pm : link
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he's lost about 15 lbs?


10 maybe.



Yep, just leaner. Maybe from the rehab on the hernia...


I don't see how he can be playing with that thing. He does, but it's hard for me to understand why he isn't disabled by it.


He rehabbed it. It is just a pulled muscle and not really the same as a real hernia. Maybe it did not tear that much.
Jackie Bradley  
section125 : 9/9/2019 10:38 pm : link
again? Amazing that Leon, Bradley and Velasquez kill the Yanks pitchers.

A shut out - 1st one this year against the Sawx..
Always fun to  
dune69 : 9/9/2019 10:39 pm : link
embarrass this the Sox.
With this win, the Yanks mathematically eliminate the Red Sox  
dpinzow : 9/9/2019 10:40 pm : link
from contention in the AL East. Although it was pretty much a formality, it was nice to see us do so directly
Ah Geez,  
section125 : 9/9/2019 10:40 pm : link
Boone called me into the office and I'm being sent down...

Next man up to start the next game thread!
Great series win.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/9/2019 10:45 pm : link
Always nice to take 3 out of 4 in Boston and eliminate them in the process.

What a season.
Ans by eliminate them,  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/9/2019 10:46 pm : link
I mean from winning the division.
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Nine-Tails : 9/9/2019 10:48 pm : link
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If Sevy comes back and dominates then that's a nice problem to have. I'd still pitch him and Tanaka away. Tanaka is the most mentally sturdy pitcher we have and Severino has the most dominant stuff that can shut an opponent down regardless of park.

Paxton being a lefty is more advantageous at Yankee Stadium than on the road as he gets to pitch to the deeper part of the park against lots of right-handed power. Additionally, Paxton would try to neutralize an opponent's lefty power by making them hit the other way, away from the short porch. German is brilliant at Yankee Stadium but gets crushed on the road



Yeah, I like your rotation(s). I'm just thinking we will get more innings from Sevy if he continues pain free. I was thinking German/Sevy combo or Green/Sevy combo last week before the news came back of Sevy doing well.




--I trust Tanaka to deal with a crazy road crowd
--Severino isn't a kid anymore; when he returns he gets big boy responsibility because his stuff can shut down a lineup regardless of location
--Paxton being a lefty should get priority pitching at home, plus his form has improved to the point where he can credibly pitch against another team's ace
--German will be fired up by the home crowd but could wilt against a playoff crowd in Minnesota or Houston (most likely opponents)


Couldn't have said it any better. All O want is CC and Happ to be nowhere near pitching in a meaningful game or moment.
The Yanks went 14-5 against the Red Sox this year  
dpinzow : 9/9/2019 10:52 pm : link
The last time the Yanks won 14 or more games in a regular season against Boston? 1960 (they went 15-7 in 22 games). They were 13-5 in 2012 and 10-3 in 1980 when there was a balanced schedule
Red Sox have a losing record at home...  
rnargi : 9/9/2019 10:57 pm : link
...how is that even possible?
Now 44 games over .500  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/9/2019 11:32 pm : link
despite being the most injured team in MLB history.

Incredible.
My bad, 45 games over .500!  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/9/2019 11:34 pm : link
And a new highwater mark for the season!

:)
RE: RE: RE: Does Voit look like  
Eman11 : 9/9/2019 11:37 pm : link
In comment 14569591 section125 said:
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he's lost about 15 lbs?


10 maybe.



Yep, just leaner. Maybe from the rehab on the hernia...


Good to see him get a couple of hits tonight and his first RBI since returning but I do think he's still dealing with that injury at least somewhat.

He didn't look like his normal happy pumped up self even after getting that RBI. Almost looked like he's fighting through it, with more relief than anything else.

I do agree he does look leaner and I wonder if the injury has affected his strength both mental and physical.
A work of art:  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/10/2019 12:15 am : link
RE: Playoff rotation setups if I were manager  
WillVAB : 9/10/2019 12:17 am : link
In comment 14569492 dpinzow said:
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Home field advantage:

Game 1: Paxton
Game 2: German
Game 3: Tanaka
Game 4: Severino as a 4-5 inning guy, then the pen
Game 5: Paxton
Game 6 (in LCS or World Series): German
Game 7: Tanaka

Without home field advantage:

Game 1: Tanaka
Game 2: Severino as a 4-5 inning guy, then the pen
Game 3: Paxton
Game 4: German
Game 5: Tanaka
Game 6: Severino as a 4-5 inning guy, then the pen
Game 7: Paxton


Two games with Tanaka? No thanks.
RE: RE: Playoff rotation setups if I were manager  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/10/2019 2:58 am : link
In comment 14569696 WillVAB said:
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Two games with Tanaka? No thanks.


Tanaka's career postseason numbers are exceptional and his 2019 numbers outside of 3 starts against Boston are pretty good.
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section125 : 9/10/2019 7:50 am : link
In comment 14569664 Eman11 said:
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Good to see him get a couple of hits tonight and his first RBI since returning but I do think he's still dealing with that injury at least somewhat.

He didn't look like his normal happy pumped up self even after getting that RBI. Almost looked like he's fighting through it, with more relief than anything else.

I do agree he does look leaner and I wonder if the injury has affected his strength both mental and physical.


He's been a little angry at himself since he came off the IL. He hit so well in AAA, but has been spinning his wheels since he came off IL on the Yanks. I think he's had numerous good ABs that netted zero results. The last two nights he's ripped the ball but right at people. But at least last night he had some solid hits.
IDK if he is still sore, but I thought his disposition last night was "finally/relief." He also has to know that he needs to hit or may not make postseason because of the OF injuries. A healthy Encarnacion is a lock. He is a better fielder and he is a dangerous hitter. Let's face it the Yanks best lineup has DJLM 1B, Torres 2B, Didi SS, Urshela 3B with EE as DH. Stanton as a viable OF allows Voit to make the roster as DH/1B.

Now if Giancarlo comes back healthy, a lot of pressure comes off the outfield roster. Maybin becomes the back up. It may also put Wade on the roster as a defensive replacement. Losing Tauchman was a big blow defensively.
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Eman11 : 9/10/2019 8:04 am : link
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Good to see him get a couple of hits tonight and his first RBI since returning but I do think he's still dealing with that injury at least somewhat.

He didn't look like his normal happy pumped up self even after getting that RBI. Almost looked like he's fighting through it, with more relief than anything else.

I do agree he does look leaner and I wonder if the injury has affected his strength both mental and physical.



He's been a little angry at himself since he came off the IL. He hit so well in AAA, but has been spinning his wheels since he came off IL on the Yanks. I think he's had numerous good ABs that netted zero results. The last two nights he's ripped the ball but right at people. But at least last night he had some solid hits.
IDK if he is still sore, but I thought his disposition last night was "finally/relief." He also has to know that he needs to hit or may not make postseason because of the OF injuries. A healthy Encarnacion is a lock. He is a better fielder and he is a dangerous hitter. Let's face it the Yanks best lineup has DJLM 1B, Torres 2B, Didi SS, Urshela 3B with EE as DH. Stanton as a viable OF allows Voit to make the roster as DH/1B.

Now if Giancarlo comes back healthy, a lot of pressure comes off the outfield roster. Maybin becomes the back up. It may also put Wade on the roster as a defensive replacement. Losing Tauchman was a big blow defensively.


Yeah section, finally/relief is a good way to put it and what I meant about his mental strength. No doubt his struggle since returning were wearing on him and it was showing. He did look more relieved than excited or happy last night.

I'm just used to seeing the pumped up, happy and energetic Voit out there and hope it is his struggles that is keeping that down and not because he's fighting through the injury and is just hoping it doesn't get worse.

The Tauchman injury really does suck and I feel for him. The guy got a shot, made the most of it and to have this happen so late in the year is a big blow. Now we're hoping Stanton can come back more out of necessity than a luxury or OF insurance. I do think if he comes back he has to be able to play the field,and if he can't I can see the Yanks leaving him off the playoff roster.
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section125 : 9/10/2019 8:25 am : link
In comment 14569795 Eman11 said:
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Yeah section, finally/relief is a good way to put it and what I meant about his mental strength. No doubt his struggle since returning were wearing on him and it was showing. He did look more relieved than excited or happy last night.

I'm just used to seeing the pumped up, happy and energetic Voit out there and hope it is his struggles that is keeping that down and not because he's fighting through the injury and is just hoping it doesn't get worse.

The Tauchman injury really does suck and I feel for him. The guy got a shot, made the most of it and to have this happen so late in the year is a big blow. Now we're hoping Stanton can come back more out of necessity than a luxury or OF insurance. I do think if he comes back he has to be able to play the field,and if he can't I can see the Yanks leaving him off the playoff roster.


I started a discussion thread this morning to get off the game thread and of course threw a few ideas out there.....
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WillVAB : 9/10/2019 8:34 am : link
In comment 14569732 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Two games with Tanaka? No thanks.



Tanaka's career postseason numbers are exceptional and his 2019 numbers outside of 3 starts against Boston are pretty good.


I donít trust him enough for two starts in a series. I donít think I trust any of the starters for two starts in a series.
well, if you don't trust any of them  
Greg from LI : 9/10/2019 10:09 am : link
then it's a moot point, isn't it.
RE: With this win, the Yanks mathematically eliminate the Red Sox  
Stan in LA : 9/10/2019 12:16 pm : link
In comment 14569611 dpinzow said:
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from contention in the AL East. Although it was pretty much a formality, it was nice to see us do so directly

Yanks should have played Sweet Caroline in the clubhouse!
RE: well, if you don't trust any of them  
WillVAB : 9/10/2019 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14569988 Greg from LI said:
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then it's a moot point, isn't it.


Iíd add Happ and cut down on one guy getting two starts. Look for 6 quality innings from each guy and lean on the bullpen. If someone pitches lights out obviously let them go deeper.

Banking on Severino for two starts on a pitch count seems foolish. Just add another starter to the rotation and keep everyone as fresh as possible.

None of these guys are aces. You should be pushing for multiple starts on short rest if you have an ace or two that you want multiple bites at the apple with.
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