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MotownGIANTS : 9/10/2019 11:43 am
really all that? Should I add it to the agenda for game trip?

If not what is a spot that anyone would recommend?
If you like a huge honkin' pastrami sandwich  
jcn56 : 9/10/2019 11:44 am : link
then yes, yes it is.

If you're already in Jersey - it's a way's off but not sure where you're coming from, Harold's in Edison isn't too shabby either.
I thought Harold's closed?  
GiantBlue : 9/10/2019 11:45 am : link
Did they re-open? Route 10 right?
Yeah it's good  
armstead98 : 9/10/2019 11:47 am : link
I prefer Russ & Daughters right next door for bagels and lox.
There are plenty of places in the area that are at least on Katz level  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/10/2019 11:55 am : link
Unless you are going to be near it no reason to go out your way. The one thing I will say is their house deli mustard is fucking tremendous.
RE: If you like a huge honkin' pastrami sandwich  
rnargi : 9/10/2019 11:56 am : link
In comment 14570183 jcn56 said:
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then yes, yes it is.

If you're already in Jersey - it's a way's off but not sure where you're coming from, Harold's in Edison isn't too shabby either.


I second, third, and fourth Harold's. It's amazing. Used to stop there with HopeJ going back home from the games...you know, when we used to WIN.
RE: There are plenty of places in the area that are at least on Katz level  
AndyMilligan : 9/10/2019 11:57 am : link
In comment 14570211 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Unless you are going to be near it no reason to go out your way. The one thing I will say is their house deli mustard is fucking tremendous.

no there aren't
With Carnegie Deli  
johnnyb : 9/10/2019 11:58 am : link
no longer (very sad), Katz is the best Jewish deli in NYC in my opinion. I worked in NYC for twenty six years, on the NYSE and trading desks, and ordered from Katz and Carnegie often enough. I preferred Carnegie, but no longer an option.
"I hate sandwiches at New York delis.  
j_rud : 9/10/2019 11:58 am : link
Too much meat on the sandwich. "Would you like anything else with the pastrami sandwich?" "Yeah, a loaf of bread and some other people"

-Mitch Hedberg
Katz's  
AndyMilligan : 9/10/2019 11:59 am : link
pastrami might be the best on the planet. Seriously. The other meats are ok but the pastrami is special. I have heard that Langer's in LA is close or equal to, but in the NY area there is not equal, honestly. For corned beef second avenue deli was always better, imo.
No it isn't all that  
JerseyCityJoe : 9/10/2019 11:59 am : link
If you go in the summer bring a flywatter because they are all over the place. They do make a nice sandwich, however I always thought The Stage Deli was better but they have closed their doors.
RE: With Carnegie Deli  
AndyMilligan : 9/10/2019 12:00 pm : link
In comment 14570220 johnnyb said:
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no longer (very sad), Katz is the best Jewish deli in NYC in my opinion. I worked in NYC for twenty six years, on the NYSE and trading desks, and ordered from Katz and Carnegie often enough. I preferred Carnegie, but no longer an option.


Carnegie was pretty good, but it was not in Katz's league for pastrami.
RE: I thought Harold's closed?  
jcn56 : 9/10/2019 12:00 pm : link
In comment 14570187 GiantBlue said:
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Did they re-open? Route 10 right?


I said Edison but I was thinking Lyndhurst (my NJ geography sucks). It is still open the last I checked a couple of months back.
Best Hot Dogs  
Shirk130 : 9/10/2019 12:01 pm : link
in New York
What's the hunger for?  
idiotsavant : 9/10/2019 12:01 pm : link
Russ and Daughters different menu more salmon focussed , fancier
RE: Best Hot Dogs  
AndyMilligan : 9/10/2019 12:02 pm : link
In comment 14570229 Shirk130 said:
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in New York


they do have very good hot dogs it is true.. best in NY i'm not sure but it is in the convo.
RE: What's the hunger for?  
AndyMilligan : 9/10/2019 12:03 pm : link
In comment 14570230 idiotsavant said:
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Russ and Daughters different menu more salmon focussed , fancier


russ and daughters is very good.. but like all the big smoked fish places in NY (most anyway) they get their fish from ACME in greenpoint which you can go get yourself at a discount on Friday mornings.
RE: Katz's  
Stan in LA : 9/10/2019 12:06 pm : link
In comment 14570223 AndyMilligan said:
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pastrami might be the best on the planet. Seriously. The other meats are ok but the pastrami is special. I have heard that Langer's in LA is close or equal to, but in the NY area there is not equal, honestly. For corned beef second avenue deli was always better, imo.

Yes, Langer's is better.
RE: There are plenty of places in the area that are at least on Katz level  
Essex : 9/10/2019 12:06 pm : link
In comment 14570211 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Unless you are going to be near it no reason to go out your way. The one thing I will say is their house deli mustard is fucking tremendous.

like what?
Yes, no question  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/10/2019 12:10 pm : link
Make sure you visibly tip your carver. He’ll hook you up with extra meat and the best slices.
Katz’s is Ok  
Samiam : 9/10/2019 12:15 pm : link
To say that it’s the best is to acknowledge that there aren’t many delis left
that serve that kind of food. Or it’s the goyim talking. That said, it is a place to go at least once if only for the people watching. For what this is worth,my wife loves the place
What everyone else is saying  
kennyd : 9/10/2019 12:17 pm : link
The Pastrami is the best on earth. That on rye with mustard and All dill pickles (they give you dill and half dill as the default - the half dill are basically cucumbers, barely pickles in my mind)

And make sure the carver sees you throw a couple bucks in the tip jar right away. They'll take better care of you.

AND DON'T LOSE YOUR TICKET!

Great, now my mouth is watering
RE:  
jcn56 : 9/10/2019 12:19 pm : link
In comment 14570221 j_rud said:
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Too much meat on the sandwich. "Would you like anything else with the pastrami sandwich?" "Yeah, a loaf of bread and some other people"

-Mitch Hedberg


That's funny but fair. The last time I went to Harold's was after a fishing show, so I brought back sandwiches for the kids.

I mistakenly ordered 'large' sandwiches - which weighed about 3 lbs each - and included an extra 8 slices of rye bread each. We were eating pastrami for 4 days.
Has anyone every  
Jolly Blue Giant : 9/10/2019 12:24 pm : link
Ordered an online delivery from Katz?
Link - ( New Window )
Staying in  
MotownGIANTS : 9/10/2019 12:28 pm : link
NJ from Sat to Tues (for the NYG/Dal Mon night game)
Englewood, NJ  
MotownGIANTS : 9/10/2019 12:28 pm : link
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RE: What everyone else is saying  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/10/2019 12:29 pm : link
In comment 14570263 kennyd said:
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The Pastrami is the best on earth. That on rye with mustard and All dill pickles (they give you dill and half dill as the default - the half dill are basically cucumbers, barely pickles in my mind)

And make sure the carver sees you throw a couple bucks in the tip jar right away. They'll take better care of you.

AND DON'T LOSE YOUR TICKET!

Great, now my mouth is watering

I prefer half dill, dill is a bit too sour.
Best  
Rolyrock : 9/10/2019 12:31 pm : link
I ever had tried a lot. Everything offered is awesome and addicting. GET THERE EARLY. It an tourist invasion.
Juniors  
pjcas18 : 9/10/2019 12:34 pm : link
in times square is good if you don't want to go to Katz's.

I think Katz's is absolutely worth going to if you've never been, but otherwise I wouldn't make a special trip there.

Juniors' sandwiches aren't obscenely massive like Katz', but still enough for a grown man to struggle to finish.

And their pastrami is also delicious though served on two onion rolls, but they do have rye and other breads available if you prefer and they have all the standard deli fare plus they're famous for their cheese cake.

I've never had it, but people like it. My kids like the hot chocolate.

I have heard the Brooklyn location is better, but I suspect that's more nostalgia than actual food quality difference. but I have never been to the Brooklyn location.

Usually I go to Juniors for breakfast, but have been many times for lunch and I'd go there without hesitation if it was more convenient than somewhere else with a better reputation.

also, this thread needs food porn:

RE: Juniors  
jcn56 : 9/10/2019 12:38 pm : link
In comment 14570296 pjcas18 said:
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in times square is good if you don't want to go to Katz's.

I think Katz's is absolutely worth going to if you've never been, but otherwise I wouldn't make a special trip there.

Juniors' sandwiches aren't obscenely massive like Katz', but still enough for a grown man to struggle to finish.

And their pastrami is also delicious though served on two onion rolls, but they do have rye and other breads available if you prefer and they have all the standard deli fare plus they're famous for their cheese cake.

I've never had it, but people like it. My kids like the hot chocolate.

I have heard the Brooklyn location is better, but I suspect that's more nostalgia than actual food quality difference. but I have never been to the Brooklyn location.

Usually I go to Juniors for breakfast, but have been many times for lunch and I'd go there without hesitation if it was more convenient than somewhere else with a better reputation.

also, this thread needs food porn:



Wait up - you've been going to Juniors for the pastrami and not the cheesecake?

Juniors is average as far as pastrami goes. It's the cheesecake that they're excellent at.
RE: RE: Juniors  
kennyd : 9/10/2019 12:43 pm : link
In comment 14570303 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14570296 pjcas18 said:


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in times square is good if you don't want to go to Katz's.

I think Katz's is absolutely worth going to if you've never been, but otherwise I wouldn't make a special trip there.

Juniors' sandwiches aren't obscenely massive like Katz', but still enough for a grown man to struggle to finish.

And their pastrami is also delicious though served on two onion rolls, but they do have rye and other breads available if you prefer and they have all the standard deli fare plus they're famous for their cheese cake.

I've never had it, but people like it. My kids like the hot chocolate.

I have heard the Brooklyn location is better, but I suspect that's more nostalgia than actual food quality difference. but I have never been to the Brooklyn location.

Usually I go to Juniors for breakfast, but have been many times for lunch and I'd go there without hesitation if it was more convenient than somewhere else with a better reputation.

also, this thread needs food porn:





Wait up - you've been going to Juniors for the pastrami and not the cheesecake?

Juniors is average as far as pastrami goes. It's the cheesecake that they're excellent at.


Exactly! It's like going to Peter Lugar's for the wedge salad!
Hey, this is all subjective of course  
Essex : 9/10/2019 12:43 pm : link
so I don't profess to think my opinion is better or more worthy than anyone else's, but it is surprising to me how many people are not in love with Katz's on this thread. It is, quite literally, the best deli sandwich I have ever had. I live in NYC and have had it hundreds of times over the last twenty years and never get sick of it. I have also had Junior's pastrami and I would say that it is average at best. Carnegie Deli was never good, imo. Second Avenue Deli is very good, not nearly as good as Katz's and the pastrami is much leaner, but it is good.


An underrated deli is there is this place in the Reading Terminal Market in Philly called Hershel's (I think) and they have a good pastrami that seems to have been modeled on Katz's.
RE: RE: Juniors  
pjcas18 : 9/10/2019 12:44 pm : link
In comment 14570303 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14570296 pjcas18 said:


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in times square is good if you don't want to go to Katz's.

I think Katz's is absolutely worth going to if you've never been, but otherwise I wouldn't make a special trip there.

Juniors' sandwiches aren't obscenely massive like Katz', but still enough for a grown man to struggle to finish.

And their pastrami is also delicious though served on two onion rolls, but they do have rye and other breads available if you prefer and they have all the standard deli fare plus they're famous for their cheese cake.

I've never had it, but people like it. My kids like the hot chocolate.

I have heard the Brooklyn location is better, but I suspect that's more nostalgia than actual food quality difference. but I have never been to the Brooklyn location.

Usually I go to Juniors for breakfast, but have been many times for lunch and I'd go there without hesitation if it was more convenient than somewhere else with a better reputation.

also, this thread needs food porn:





Wait up - you've been going to Juniors for the pastrami and not the cheesecake?

Juniors is average as far as pastrami goes. It's the cheesecake that they're excellent at.


My wife and kids get it, but I don't eat sweets.

and I usually go for breakfast and their eggs benedict is great.

but I have been many times for lunch and their pastrami is fine to me.
Fair enough  
jcn56 : 9/10/2019 12:46 pm : link
their Brooklyn location is actually their best, it's not just nostalgia. I went to HS a few blocks from there, and was taken aback by how different the other locations were (not the cheesecake, which apparently is made in Brooklyn).

It is a dump though, even with the neighborhood having considerably improved since then it has remained very much the same.
2nd Ave Deli  
Daniel in Kentucky : 9/10/2019 12:48 pm : link
Looks amazing. Never been there but it looks awesome. See link below about 9:20 in to the video.
I’ve been to Katz deli and it was definitely worth the trip.
Super sandwich.
Link - ( New Window )
Is Wolff’s still around?  
Phil in LA : 9/10/2019 12:58 pm : link
One of my summer jobs used to get sandwich platters from Wolff’s and they were awesome.
Katz's is pretty good.  
Anakim : 9/10/2019 12:59 pm : link
The lines and the prices I can do without
RE: 2nd Ave Deli  
Anakim : 9/10/2019 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14570318 Daniel in Kentucky said:
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Looks amazing. Never been there but it looks awesome. See link below about 9:20 in to the video.
I’ve been to Katz deli and it was definitely worth the trip.
Super sandwich. Link - ( New Window )


If you want to spend like $15 for soup...2nd Ave. Deli is a rip.
Love Katz's  
Bubba : 9/10/2019 1:18 pm : link
FYI Cash only. They have an ATM on premises.
RE: Love Katz's  
Essex : 9/10/2019 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14570378 Bubba said:
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FYI Cash only. They have an ATM on premises.

That is actually not true. If you want to pay by debit/credit card you can bring your ticket to the back by the deserts and sodas and they will run it through the machine and staple it to your ticket. When you walk out you just give them your ticket with the stapled receipt.
Essex  
Bubba : 9/10/2019 1:31 pm : link
Thanks. Last time I was there (2 years ago) they had a sign by the register that said cash only.
Thanks everyone ....  
MotownGIANTS : 9/10/2019 2:03 pm : link
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Pastrami Queen  
DonQuixote : 9/10/2019 2:21 pm : link
UES in the upper 70s is every bit as good as Katz's without the lines and tickets or having to eat in a gymnasium filled with tourists.
RE: Pastrami Queen  
Anakim : 9/10/2019 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14570487 DonQuixote said:
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UES in the upper 70s is every bit as good as Katz's without the lines and tickets or having to eat in a gymnasium filled with tourists.


78th. Yep, good place. A little pricey too, but solid
RE: Pastrami Queen  
AndyMilligan : 9/10/2019 3:39 pm : link
In comment 14570487 DonQuixote said:
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UES in the upper 70s is every bit as good as Katz's without the lines and tickets or having to eat in a gymnasium filled with tourists.

i can't let this pass, sorry... i went to a Pastrami Queen location and it was below average. That location as since closed. Maybe the UES location is better but from the Yelp review it doesn't look like it. You're comparing that to the gold standard of NY pastrami?

Second Avenue Deli pastrami is not as good as KAtz's but everything there is at least pretty good. I saw someone complain about the soup prices. Well I haven't gotten soup from second ave deli since they moved, which must be 15 years ago at least, but the soup was expensive then and I can tell you it is the best soup in the world and worth every penny. They have the best matzoh ball soup it is (or was) seriously not close. If someone ifs going to say different ... just don't. The matzoh ball with chicken soup and dumplings.. best shit in the world... and you got people here bitching about the price.
RE: RE: With Carnegie Deli  
mdc1 : 9/10/2019 6:18 pm : link
In comment 14570227 AndyMilligan said:
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In comment 14570220 johnnyb said:


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no longer (very sad), Katz is the best Jewish deli in NYC in my opinion. I worked in NYC for twenty six years, on the NYSE and trading desks, and ordered from Katz and Carnegie often enough. I preferred Carnegie, but no longer an option.



Carnegie was pretty good, but it was not in Katz's league for pastrami.


this
Juniors cheesecake  
Jimmy Googs : 9/10/2019 9:30 pm : link
is nothing short of fabulous. It actually draws me inside.

I like breakfast there as well...good call on that.
Yes  
MM_in_NYC : 9/10/2019 9:31 pm : link
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RE: RE: Katz's  
section125 : 9/10/2019 9:53 pm : link
In comment 14570240 Stan in LA said:
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In comment 14570223 AndyMilligan said:


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pastrami might be the best on the planet. Seriously. The other meats are ok but the pastrami is special. I have heard that Langer's in LA is close or equal to, but in the NY area there is not equal, honestly. For corned beef second avenue deli was always better, imo.


Yes, Langer's is better.


You don't count.
On the East Coast, the only place that comes close to Katz's  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/10/2019 9:56 pm : link
...is Schwartz's in Montreal. Though they don't have pastrami at Schwartz's, it's "smoked meat" (like a corned beef/pastrami hybrid). Delicious!

Another great Jewish (not Kosher) Deli is Sarge's on Third Ave. in the 30s. Their chopped liver is the bomb.
Count me among thems that think Katz's is worth a trip  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/11/2019 6:22 pm : link
if you haven't been there before, it's not just the food, it's an old time venue that is classic and just isn't available elsewhere. The food, incidentally, is outstanding, and if you love pastrami, then you will love it there. They also have wonderful classic sour pickles there.
As a Montrealer when it comes to smoked meat  
RasputinPrime : 9/11/2019 8:54 pm : link
Katz is really a solid entry. I think when you get to the top tier it is about the individual experience and with how busy most of them are, that can be hit or miss. Thankfully for Katz' i've never been disappointed.
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