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Steve L : 9/10/2019 4:16 pm
Iím just finishing it. Itís really good and lives up to the hype.

My question is this...aside from the humanitarian aspect, how would The US have solved this? For example, letís say Five Mile Island went down like this. Was our technology further ahead that could have made a difference? Or is how we managed Five Mile what they should have done? Obviously their political system hampered things, I mean just technology.
Its Three Mile Island  
cjac : 9/10/2019 4:18 pm : link
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Technology was only a part of it  
widmerseyebrow : 9/10/2019 4:23 pm : link
but the greater message to me was that the Soviet system not only caused the accident but greatly hampered the initial containment and cleanup efforts.
Just a point or two from what i gathered from watching  
cjac : 9/10/2019 4:24 pm : link
Three mile island had a lot of safety features that contained the radiation leak.

The US never tried to cover up the problem, it was made public and there were evacuations and no deaths from the incident.

Chernobyl was an explosion and was so bad that due to the winds it was effecting Germany, the Soviets never disclosed it and it was caught by satalite photographs
They also make the point in the last episode  
cjac : 9/10/2019 4:26 pm : link
that the Soviet plants didn't have the same safety features as the US plants to save on costs.
RE: Just a point or two from what i gathered from watching  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/10/2019 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14570719 cjac said:
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Three mile island had a lot of safety features that contained the radiation leak.

The US never tried to cover up the problem, it was made public and there were evacuations and no deaths from the incident.

Chernobyl was an explosion and was so bad that due to the winds it was effecting Germany, the Soviets never disclosed it and it was caught by satalite photographs


This sums it up pretty well. The accident itself was bad enough, but the lack of disclosure and the bumbling effort to contain it putting their own lives at risk, as well as neighboring countries is what made it so terrible.
It's an interesting question  
jcn56 : 9/10/2019 4:28 pm : link
I asked myself the same when I saw the mini-series, and came across this article:

https://www.livescience.com/65515-chernobyl-in-modern-times-nuclear-emergency.html

I think the main difference though was that they tried to keep it quiet and keep people in the dark, and I'd hope that they would minimize that here and get as many people who could help engaged to solve the problem.
RE: They also make the point in the last episode  
BillT : 9/10/2019 4:32 pm : link
In comment 14570724 cjac said:
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that the Soviet plants didn't have the same safety features as the US plants to save on costs.

This was the problem with Soviet and is the problem current Russia technology. Lots of sophisticated ideas and technology without enough money to implement them safely.
RE: Its Three Mile Island  
Steve L : 9/10/2019 4:44 pm : link
In comment 14570707 cjac said:
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Ha. I live right near a Five Mile Road.
Just realized thatís where  
eli4life : 9/10/2019 4:48 pm : link
I saw the guy from carnival row
Number of points:  
ColHowPepper : 9/10/2019 5:22 pm : link
atmospheric radiation was first reported via Sweden's monitoring systems, considerably north (farther away) of Germany, and that is how dissemination of the clues to 'an event' came to worldwide media.

It was not only that it was Soviet efforts to skimp on technological fail safe systems, as well as human error, itself caused by perverted incentives to run the system to low load testing, and not only the initial official governmental, Soviet, state, and local, efforts to conceal the explosion, but the cynical blackout to local residents and first responders to conceal the fatality risks imminent to a 50-mile (?) radius. Evacuation efforts came days if not weeks late.

I would like to think that no US or State governmental authority tasked with prevention, remediation, relief, and recovery would be quite so cynical, so callous.

Then, again, there is the long delayed, insufficient program to address health issues of first responders in the aftermath of the Twin Towers.
RE: Its Three Mile Island  
djm : 9/10/2019 5:34 pm : link
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Itís 1000 island.
if there is an explosion in a nuclear reactor  
Giantsfan79 : 9/10/2019 5:35 pm : link
there isn't any technology anywhere that can contain or reverse the damage caused. Humanity would half to wait out the half-life decay of the radioactive isotopes - we're talking tens to hundreds of thousands of years of radioactivity.
The USA nukes already had containment buildings  
since1925 : 9/10/2019 5:41 pm : link
So in theory, the accident would not have sent a radioactive plume out for hundreds of miles.
Drama  
GiantEgo : 9/10/2019 7:47 pm : link
The Chernobyl series is complete bullshit from the scientific standpoint.

Have a look at this. The creator can be considered an expert on the subject.
Link - ( New Window )
RE: Drama  
eli4life : 9/10/2019 7:52 pm : link
In comment 14570927 GiantEgo said:
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The Chernobyl series is complete bullshit from the scientific standpoint.

Have a look at this. The creator can be considered an expert on the subject. Link - ( New Window )


Umm this is some camera video
eli4life  
Daniel in MI : 9/10/2019 10:41 pm : link
Still, in fairness the creator can be considered an expert on the topic. It's just that it's irrelevant.
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