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NFT: DBags at Mets. Game 2. Wheelz Fat lady still singing....

ZGiants98 : 9/10/2019 6:25 pm
Mets Lineup

Jeff McNeil – LF
Pete Alonso – 1B
Michael Conforto – RF
Wilson Ramos – C
Robinson Cano – 2B
Amed Rosario – SS
Brandon Nimmo – CF
Todd Frazier – 3B
Zack Wheeler – RHP

Diamondbacks Lineup

Ketel Marte – CF
Wilmer Flores – 2B
Eduardo Escobar – 3B
Christian Walker – 1B
Josh Rojas – LF
Adam Jones – RF
Nick Ahmed – SS
Alex Avila – C
Zac Gallen – RHP

Dont like sitting Davis tonight but whatever. Mets 3.5 back. Just win! LFGM!
The 'pitching splits w/ Ramos catching' convo came back up  
ChaChing : 9/10/2019 7:26 pm : link
can't be sure of the right answer, but I understand if Thor is frustrated. Tbf he's not shitting on Ramos, just talking results and today admitted he has to get better. And esp 2nd half Ramos' bat could not be ignored. IMO I would have leaned toward the pitching esp w/ their 1st half struggles vs Ramos' bat a fair amount more, particularly early season

But the splits are hugely different, and w/ framing & pitch calls it's legit a thing. Also JDG was given Nido for most of the tail of his CY Young run (ironically BVW advised JDG to insist as much lol). No doubt pros gotta man up, but that double std negatively effecting his results plus trade rumors every year...

Thor & Ramos - ( New Window )
Gallen looks like  
ZGiants98 : 9/10/2019 7:31 pm : link
he should star in "Revenge of the Nerds". lol
I can’t shake this feeling that the Mets sneak on  
Chris684 : 9/10/2019 7:49 pm : link
even with the disastrous bullpen.

I know I’m probably crazy but whatever.

Got him  
ChaChing : 9/10/2019 7:53 pm : link
great relay & tag. Yeah I always wonder how often guys' foot goes over the plate almost as if they aren't trying to use that, but are going for the hand touch

Still was a good effort just didn't work out...or so I think anyway
I mean of course he was safe  
ChaChing : 9/10/2019 7:53 pm : link
.
Cano 2-2  
ZGiants98 : 9/10/2019 8:33 pm : link
One fire!
Todd another big hit  
ChaChing : 9/10/2019 8:39 pm : link
little lazy to first but well...

3-1 NYM
Nimmo ffs  
Ron Johnson : 9/10/2019 8:47 pm : link
How long do you have to be in the bigs before you learn how to run the bases?
Beautiful game from  
ZGiants98 : 9/10/2019 9:24 pm : link
Zack tonight.
Hopefully the bullpen  
nygfaninorlando : 9/10/2019 9:28 pm : link
can nail down 2 innings without drama tonight. Who gets the 9th?
Diaz warming up  
Rflairr : 9/10/2019 9:59 pm : link
lol
Wilson has really struggled this outing.  
PhiPsi125 : 9/10/2019 10:08 pm : link
I’m surprised he’s still out there.
RE: Wilson has really struggled this outing.  
Rory : 9/10/2019 10:09 pm : link
In comment 14571113 PhiPsi125 said:
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I’m surprised he’s still out there.


Diaz
Bonehead play by Alonso  
Rflairr : 9/10/2019 10:10 pm : link
Throw to second. And game is over
jesus its  
Rory : 9/10/2019 10:11 pm : link
Flores how fitting
Wilson battles back to  
Rflairr : 9/10/2019 10:13 pm : link
Close it!
Whooo!  
ZGiants98 : 9/10/2019 10:13 pm : link
Nice win!
Wow!!!  
Ira : 9/10/2019 10:13 pm : link
Wilson's the man.
ugh  
Rory : 9/10/2019 10:13 pm : link
they dont make it easy do they.
Nats going to  
Rory : 9/10/2019 10:14 pm : link
lose to Twins too
Bog blow  
KDubbs : 9/10/2019 11:17 pm : link
To brewers, Yelich done for year
Brooklyn  
pjcas18 : 9/11/2019 12:39 am : link
won their playoff series, NY-Penn league champs.

Matthew Allan threw 3 scoreless innings with 0 hits, 0 BB's and 2K's following Nathan Jones who pitched ok too (3 IP, 1ER, 3BB, 1K).

Jake Mangum 2 for 3.

Mets minors summer season is officially wrapped.
Fatty's been warming up, but Dodgers clinch...  
ChaChing : 9/11/2019 1:07 am : link
a little extra hope in that series esp w/ JDG & Thor being on tap iirc in case they sit some guys. Still a great team, but there's a shot, as w/ Atl last 3

I'm not holding my breath, nor think it's pretty if they do sneak in but...



LOL and the Cubbies hand the game away in 10th  
ChaChing : 9/11/2019 2:04 am : link
Cishek 3 straight walks w/ 1 out after an IF single
RE: Brooklyn  
Mike in NY : 9/11/2019 3:05 am : link
In comment 14571203 pjcas18 said:
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won their playoff series, NY-Penn league champs.

Matthew Allan threw 3 scoreless innings with 0 hits, 0 BB's and 2K's following Nathan Jones who pitched ok too (3 IP, 1ER, 3BB, 1K).

Jake Mangum 2 for 3.

Mets minors summer season is officially wrapped.


Initial returns on Allan look like we were smart to tank Rounds 4-10 to fit him under budget. Now watch us trade him for some has been.
RE: RE: Brooklyn  
pjcas18 : 9/11/2019 8:02 am : link
In comment 14571215 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 14571203 pjcas18 said:


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won their playoff series, NY-Penn league champs.

Matthew Allan threw 3 scoreless innings with 0 hits, 0 BB's and 2K's following Nathan Jones who pitched ok too (3 IP, 1ER, 3BB, 1K).

Jake Mangum 2 for 3.

Mets minors summer season is officially wrapped.



Initial returns on Allan look like we were smart to tank Rounds 4-10 to fit him under budget. Now watch us trade him for some has been.


Yep, so far, hopefully he stays healthy next year and plays full-season.

It pisses me off to look at the minors in general and see how strong the system could have been if BVW wasn't clueless.

People sometimes call it prospect hugging, but the players you get from the farm system to contribute have a ripple effect on your whole roster, and the better those players pan out, the bigger the ripple.

at least if you trade them to improve the major league team, which I support, you better actually improve the major league team or you are doing more damage than good - like is the case here.
Feels like the Mets have an opportunity again...  
Chris684 : 9/11/2019 9:05 am : link
3 out of a spot.

Baez out for Cubs.

Yelich now out for Brewers.

Within a game of Philly and DBacks.

Again, no expectations but fun to still be hanging around this thing.

Also, I think we can start to keep an eye on the Nats. Not playing great, brutal schedule and known to be choke artists. They have 2 more with Minnesota, then the Braves, then the Cardinals.
I hate the fact they dragged me back in  
bhill410 : 9/11/2019 9:14 am : link
but if they can get through next 5 while staying 2/3 back the schedule really eases up and they could make a charge. Curious to see how much, if any, the dodgers lay off the gas.
Still have a pulse here...  
Metnut : 9/11/2019 9:18 am : link
bottom of the rotation vs the DBacks and then juggernaut Dodgers coming into town this weekend. Mets 3 back if Cubs and still 3 other teams to leapfrog in between.

Keep winning games and survive these 5 days and they'll have a punchers shot at this.
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pjcas18 : 9/11/2019 9:51 am : link
Good Fundies Brian
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The two worst pitchers in MLB this season by Win Probability Added? Jeurys Familia (-2.30) and Edwin Diaz (-2.16). Nobody else is below -2. It is as bad as it feels.
Cool to see the Cyclones  
pjcas18 : 9/11/2019 10:00 am : link
players carrying Fonzi off the field

Link - ( New Window )
RE: Feels like the Mets have an opportunity again...  
Vanzetti : 9/11/2019 11:44 am : link
In comment 14571328 Chris684 said:
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3 out of a spot.

Baez out for Cubs.

Yelich now out for Brewers.

Within a game of Philly and DBacks.

Again, no expectations but fun to still be hanging around this thing.

Also, I think we can start to keep an eye on the Nats. Not playing great, brutal schedule and known to be choke artists. They have 2 more with Minnesota, then the Braves, then the Cardinals.


We all know Mets have thrown away a ton of games because of poor bullpen usage and other issues that should not happen.

But at this point, you have to let that go and just enjoy that they are in it.

Also, other than Wheelz all the key players are back next year. So this team is at the beginning of what should be a good tun

Well Mets are only 3 back  
ZGiants98 : 9/11/2019 12:04 pm : link
Keep winning.
RE: RE: Feels like the Mets have an opportunity again...  
ZGiants98 : 9/11/2019 12:08 pm : link
In comment 14571604 Vanzetti said:
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In comment 14571328 Chris684 said:


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3 out of a spot.

Baez out for Cubs.

Yelich now out for Brewers.

Within a game of Philly and DBacks.

Again, no expectations but fun to still be hanging around this thing.

Also, I think we can start to keep an eye on the Nats. Not playing great, brutal schedule and known to be choke artists. They have 2 more with Minnesota, then the Braves, then the Cardinals.



We all know Mets have thrown away a ton of games because of poor bullpen usage and other issues that should not happen.

But at this point, you have to let that go and just enjoy that they are in it.

Also, other than Wheelz all the key players are back next year. So this team is at the beginning of what should be a good tun


Exactly. It’s astonishing to me how people can’t identify how young and talented this roster is. And it’s not just the rotation anymore. We have a huge nucleus of position players to grow off of. Having major league ready prospects “close” would be nice but it’s not crucial at the moment. And even Diaz in the pen is still extremely young and talented and could bounce back next year and grow with these guys. Hoping we bring back Wheeler too. I think we lucked out with the juiced balls this year and might be able to get him on a friendly 4 year deal.
If lowrie wasn’t used last night as pinch  
bhill410 : 9/11/2019 1:03 pm : link
Hitter - when exactly do we expect him to be able to play?
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