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ImThatGuy : 9/11/2019 5:50 am
Should I do it? It's a ppr league fyi

I give up T. Gurley for M. Mack

I'm leaning towards yes but I dunno
Sounds like a huge week 1 overreaction  
90.Cal : 9/11/2019 7:48 am : link
Hell no.
Yes 100% Yes  
NYG27 : 9/11/2019 8:39 am : link
This isn't Todd Gurley from 2016-2018 who was elite. Nobody knows how long that knee will last, 3 games or 3 years, why gamble?

Plus without Luck, that Colts offense will go through Mack going forward.
RE: Sounds like a huge week 1 overreaction  
chuckydee9 : 9/11/2019 8:44 am : link
In comment 14571263 90.Cal said:
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Hell no.

Yes.. Mack is just a Jag behind a very good OL dependent on his team having the lead.. Gurley is just as healthy as he has been since the surgery in college.. I also think that as the season goes on and the games become more important, Gurley will play more.. I own both in 2 separate leagues and I won't make the trade Gurley for Mack..
Yes  
superspynyg : 9/11/2019 8:52 am : link
Bell cow back. Gurley is in a timeshare for most games.
I would probably do it  
pjcas18 : 9/11/2019 8:59 am : link
because I think the Rams will be more cautious with Gurley than in the past.

It had to suck getting to the Super Bowl and not being able to really use the guy who got you there (at least partially).
RE: RE: Sounds like a huge week 1 overreaction  
giants#1 : 9/11/2019 8:59 am : link
In comment 14571311 chuckydee9 said:
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Hell no.


Yes.. Mack is just a Jag behind a very good OL dependent on his team having the lead.. Gurley is just as healthy as he has been since the surgery in college.. I also think that as the season goes on and the games become more important, Gurley will play more.. I own both in 2 separate leagues and I won't make the trade Gurley for Mack..


I agree with your conclusion, but the Colts were trailing SD most of the game and Mack still put up 25+ fantasy points. He's more than just a grind it out with the lead RB.
I'd do it  
Csonka : 9/11/2019 10:01 am : link
Fair trade, too.
Do it  
Thegratefulhead : 9/11/2019 11:07 am : link
Gurely definitely going to be on a pitch count this year. They must have him fresh for the playoffs. At the end of the year if they are cruising he's going to sit for entire games. the trade will be painful for you some days cuz gurley will pop off some huge games but I think I make that trade.
no..  
AndyMilligan : 9/11/2019 11:18 am : link
get more. On talent alone it is not close. Gurley > Mack.
Mack is a nice back but he won't get this much work all season. Meanwhile Gurley is an elite back in a top 3 offense.
Gurley was  
mdthedream : 9/11/2019 2:17 pm : link
rated about the same in mock drafts. That said shop and see what you can get first.
People that think Mack is JAG are sorely mistaken, he is a good RB  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/11/2019 2:21 pm : link
running behind a great oline. I wouldn't trade Mack for Gurley at this point. Especially since it looks like they are looking to keep the wear and tear off him in the goalline.
RE: Gurley was  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/11/2019 2:23 pm : link
In comment 14571822 mdthedream said:
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rated about the same in mock drafts. That said shop and see what you can get first.


Yeah Mack dropped after Luck went out. I still took him in the third round because I think Brissett is going to be at least a decent QB. The Colts completely blew that game. Colts are going to compete this year.
RE: People that think Mack is JAG are sorely mistaken, he is a good RB  
AndyMilligan : 9/11/2019 2:50 pm : link
In comment 14571827 Zeke's Alibi said:
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running behind a great oline. I wouldn't trade Mack for Gurley at this point. Especially since it looks like they are looking to keep the wear and tear off him in the goalline.


compared to Gurley, Mack is a JAG. He is not in the same universe as Gurley on talent alone. Does that mean that Mack can't have a small breakout this season and Gurley can't be limited. No of course not. I could also see Mack be average and Gurley be effective all season as he gets one third fewer carries. I'll take Gurley and 16 to 18 touches per game over anything Mack will give me.
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pjcas18 : 9/11/2019 3:07 pm : link
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The #Chargers announced that TE Hunter Henry suffered a tibia plateau fracture to his left knee during last Sunday’s game against the #Colts
. That is crushing.
No  
Gmen88 : 9/11/2019 3:25 pm : link
If you had the gumption to take Gurley, why give up after 1 week? I don't think Mack is very good, just benefiting from a great O-line.
It sounds  
pjcas18 : 9/11/2019 4:08 pm : link
like people haven't seen Mack play. He's not a JAG or solely the beneficiary of a good OL.

Also, these same people who say Mack is the beneficiary of a good OL apparently did not see Gurley's 2016 season before the Rams invested in their OL with Whitford, etc.

Lastly, drafting Gurley is no reason to not try and get a safer player than him.

Mack is not likely to have his TD's vultured and he doesn't have a known injury today and he has less passing options to fight for touches/targets.

I think Gurley is a better back in fantasy if he gets used like he did in 2017 and 2018, but I don't think he will and I think Mack will be more utilized and being the beneficiary of a good OL is a GOOD thing for fantasy football, not a bad thing.
Talk buying high  
justafan : 9/11/2019 5:08 pm : link
Can you get an upgrade elsewhere along with this trade, even if its a swapping of bench guys?
RE: It sounds  
AndyMilligan : 9/11/2019 5:09 pm : link
In comment 14571966 pjcas18 said:
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like people haven't seen Mack play. He's not a JAG or solely the beneficiary of a good OL.

Also, these same people who say Mack is the beneficiary of a good OL apparently did not see Gurley's 2016 season before the Rams invested in their OL with Whitford, etc.

Lastly, drafting Gurley is no reason to not try and get a safer player than him.

Mack is not likely to have his TD's vultured and he doesn't have a known injury today and he has less passing options to fight for touches/targets.

I think Gurley is a better back in fantasy if he gets used like he did in 2017 and 2018, but I don't think he will and I think Mack will be more utilized and being the beneficiary of a good OL is a GOOD thing for fantasy football, not a bad thing.

i've seen Mack play. He's not on the same planet as Gurley talent-wise..
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Leg of Theismann : 9/11/2019 5:41 pm : link
In comment 14572021 AndyMilligan said:
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like people haven't seen Mack play. He's not a JAG or solely the beneficiary of a good OL.

Also, these same people who say Mack is the beneficiary of a good OL apparently did not see Gurley's 2016 season before the Rams invested in their OL with Whitford, etc.

Lastly, drafting Gurley is no reason to not try and get a safer player than him.

Mack is not likely to have his TD's vultured and he doesn't have a known injury today and he has less passing options to fight for touches/targets.

I think Gurley is a better back in fantasy if he gets used like he did in 2017 and 2018, but I don't think he will and I think Mack will be more utilized and being the beneficiary of a good OL is a GOOD thing for fantasy football, not a bad thing.


i've seen Mack play. He's not on the same planet as Gurley talent-wise..


Yeah, obviously. But this isn't about talent. You're not building an actual football team. You're building a fantasy football team. Which has everything to do with the guy's offensive line, amount of playing time, recent injury history, etc. Getting the most talented guy is not necessarily the name of the game in fantasy by any means.
The guy in my league - PPR  
pjcas18 : 9/11/2019 7:17 pm : link
who owns Hunter Henry proposed a trade to me, he asked for TJ Hockenson for Robby Anderson.

I'm not going to do that even though my starting TE is Engram, but would it be fair (and should I) ask for any of the following for Hockenson:

Devin Singletary
Josh Gordon
Stefon Diggs


My team is:

QB:/Russel Wilson/Lamar Jackson
RB: Chubb, K. Johnson, Hyde
WR: M. Thomas, J. Smith-Schuster, C. Kirk, C. Sutton, Hollywood, DK Metcalf
TE: Engram, Hockenson, Herndon

So I could use either of those three.
PJ IMO all are legit  
ChaChing : 9/11/2019 8:04 pm : link
I'd be after a RB if I were you. Tho I'm not in love w/ Singletary, that could be a great get. It's tough to find trade partners, and figure out what's fair based esp w/ rising & falling values (Diggs O only had 10 pass attempts, JG getting AB - it seems)...I woulda hoped for a bit more than Singletary but it's a pretty solid grab esp since you still have a decent backup (also can stream TEs at worst)

Other two aren't bad either, but IMO w/ you're roster you're better off w/ a likely high volume RB bad O or not. I also am not sure how you'd pick which WR plays, as much as I like Diggs & Gordon otherwise
Nobody was comparing Mack to Gurley though, it was the statement  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/11/2019 8:12 pm : link
that he is a JAG. He is not.
I need a RB..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/11/2019 8:15 pm : link
and am thinking of trading Stefon Diggs to get one - Cook is my RB1.

Suggestions on RB's to target that will be similar value
I was already shot..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/11/2019 8:15 pm : link
down trying to trade Diggs for Mack or Diggs for Gurley
RE: I need a RB..  
pjcas18 : 9/11/2019 8:18 pm : link
In comment 14572141 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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and am thinking of trading Stefon Diggs to get one - Cook is my RB1.

Suggestions on RB's to target that will be similar value


I know it's one game, but the Vikings threw the ball 10 times Sunday. 10 times. For 98 yards. In a game they put up 28 points.

Diggs value couldn't be much lower IMO.

I would target a team who has 3 solid RB's and try and get the 3rd maybe it's someone like Chris Carson or Mark Ingram.

Aim higher but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets rejected.

Might as well shoot high, but I'd think CC  
ChaChing : 9/11/2019 9:16 pm : link
would be a no as well. MI maybe, but even as a high water mark people will avoid that due to wk 1's production. Montgomery? Similar to MI, maybe. Lindsay? Michel? White? All iffy but less so at the end there...

Otherwise IMO it's Singletary, McCoy, Brieda, Cohen (maybe), possibly CThompson tho just picked up

Likely can get LMurray or PBarber, but at that point you might look at FAs - MBrown, NHines, Gore, Hyde, RFreeman, RJones, DLewis. Some talk about SF's RMostert w/ Coleman's injury or of course Mattison, JSamuels. Not a lot to love even in 10 team but free...
RE: RE: I need a RB..  
AndyMilligan : 9/11/2019 10:43 pm : link
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and am thinking of trading Stefon Diggs to get one - Cook is my RB1.

Suggestions on RB's to target that will be similar value



I know it's one game, but the Vikings threw the ball 10 times Sunday. 10 times. For 98 yards. In a game they put up 28 points.

Diggs value couldn't be much lower IMO.

I would target a team who has 3 solid RB's and try and get the 3rd maybe it's someone like Chris Carson or Mark Ingram.

Aim higher but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets rejected.


Trade me Diggs then..
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pjcas18 : 9/11/2019 10:54 pm : link
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and am thinking of trading Stefon Diggs to get one - Cook is my RB1.

Suggestions on RB's to target that will be similar value



I know it's one game, but the Vikings threw the ball 10 times Sunday. 10 times. For 98 yards. In a game they put up 28 points.

Diggs value couldn't be much lower IMO.

I would target a team who has 3 solid RB's and try and get the 3rd maybe it's someone like Chris Carson or Mark Ingram.

Aim higher but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets rejected.




Trade me Diggs then..


If I owned Diggs I wouldn't trade him with his value this low.
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AndyMilligan : 9/11/2019 11:00 pm : link
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and am thinking of trading Stefon Diggs to get one - Cook is my RB1.

Suggestions on RB's to target that will be similar value



I know it's one game, but the Vikings threw the ball 10 times Sunday. 10 times. For 98 yards. In a game they put up 28 points.

Diggs value couldn't be much lower IMO.

I would target a team who has 3 solid RB's and try and get the 3rd maybe it's someone like Chris Carson or Mark Ingram.

Aim higher but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets rejected.




Trade me Diggs then..



If I owned Diggs I wouldn't trade him with his value this low.


Diggs is a top-12 to top-15 WR. And his upside is higher than that. Treat him that way. Get him in a trade if you are in a league where people panic. That doesn't happen in any of my leagues. Diggs' value is fine and you cannot get him for 60 cents on the dollar.
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pjcas18 : 9/11/2019 11:06 pm : link
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and am thinking of trading Stefon Diggs to get one - Cook is my RB1.

Suggestions on RB's to target that will be similar value



I know it's one game, but the Vikings threw the ball 10 times Sunday. 10 times. For 98 yards. In a game they put up 28 points.

Diggs value couldn't be much lower IMO.

I would target a team who has 3 solid RB's and try and get the 3rd maybe it's someone like Chris Carson or Mark Ingram.

Aim higher but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets rejected.




Trade me Diggs then..



If I owned Diggs I wouldn't trade him with his value this low.



Diggs is a top-12 to top-15 WR. And his upside is higher than that. Treat him that way. Get him in a trade if you are in a league where people panic. That doesn't happen in any of my leagues. Diggs' value is fine and you cannot get him for 60 cents on the dollar.


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