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Giants resigning TJ Jones

Finch : 9/11/2019 12:42 pm
Per Stapleton
That means  
cjac : 9/11/2019 12:43 pm : link
Shep is most likely out for this game
Not a good sign  
Jay on the Island : 9/11/2019 12:43 pm : link
regarding Sterling Shepard's availability.

I know it won't happen but I hope Tanney is released to make room for Jones.
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Finch : 9/11/2019 12:43 pm : link
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AcidTest : 9/11/2019 12:51 pm : link
wonder who gets cut. Core? Maybe they put Martin on IR.
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Big Rick in FL : 9/11/2019 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14571707 AcidTest said:
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wonder who gets cut. Core? Maybe they put Martin on IR.


I'm thinking Martin on IR
*STILL should be Tanney.  
Anakim : 9/11/2019 1:06 pm : link
Haha
RE: *STILL should be Tanney.  
NYG007 : 9/11/2019 1:27 pm : link
In comment 14571735 Anakim said:
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Haha


It should be Tanny, but thinking Martin to IR. Ending his short lived Career. He will be cut next year for cap savings
Can someone explain to me...  
Tesla : 9/11/2019 1:32 pm : link
why we brought back Kareem Martin for $6 million this year? He's like our 6th highest cap hit on the team.

What the hell did he do last year to deserve being brought back at that number, or at all????
RE: Can someone explain to me...  
Strahan91 : 9/11/2019 1:34 pm : link
In comment 14571770 Tesla said:
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why we brought back Kareem Martin for $6 million this year? He's like our 6th highest cap hit on the team.

What the hell did he do last year to deserve being brought back at that number, or at all????

They would've only saved $2M by cutting him given the dead cap hit by cutting him. They can save $5M this upcoming year which I'm sure they will. Now if you want to ask what they saw to sign him to the contract he got to begin with, that I have no answer for.
RE: Can someone explain to me...  
TommyWiseau : 9/11/2019 1:46 pm : link
In comment 14571770 Tesla said:
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why we brought back Kareem Martin for $6 million this year? He's like our 6th highest cap hit on the team.

What the hell did he do last year to deserve being brought back at that number, or at all????


Kennard is getting paid less then him..
He is  
ChicagoMarty : 9/11/2019 1:47 pm : link
"good in the room."
I kind of thought this team had a plan.....  
GiantBlue : 9/11/2019 1:49 pm : link
but I feel like it is so muddled with the whole Eli-Jones wasting a year of his rookie deal, essentially two years of Saquon for what....being an underdog at home to Buffalo???

Wow how this franchise has fallen....
'Wow how this franchise has fallen....'  
Torrag : 9/11/2019 1:57 pm : link
DG and Shurmur going on game 18 of their program. Try employing a reasonable amount of patience in reaching judgements about their rebuild.
RE: He is  
Dnew15 : 9/11/2019 2:00 pm : link
In comment 14571790 ChicagoMarty said:
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"good in the room."


Too bad these games aren't taking place in the meeting room - The Giants would dominate.
RE: RE: *STILL should be Tanney.  
GeofromNJ : 9/11/2019 2:10 pm : link
In comment 14571765 NYG007 said:
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It should be Tanny, but thinking Martin to IR. Ending his short lived Career. He will be cut next year for cap savings

Isn't Tanney needed to run the scout team? I wouldn't think Jones does this. He has to master the Giants playbook and he may not know enough to emulate other teams' offenses.
RE: 'Wow how this franchise has fallen....'  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/11/2019 2:27 pm : link
In comment 14571799 Torrag said:
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DG and Shurmur going on game 18 of their program. Try employing a reasonable amount of patience in reaching judgements about their rebuild.

And it might as well be game zero. Put the pom-poms down. It's ok to question a franchise that has provided ample reason to do exactly that for the past few years.
RE: RE: RE: *STILL should be Tanney.  
Jay on the Island : 9/11/2019 2:31 pm : link
In comment 14571813 GeofromNJ said:
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It should be Tanny, but thinking Martin to IR. Ending his short lived Career. He will be cut next year for cap savings


Isn't Tanney needed to run the scout team? I wouldn't think Jones does this. He has to master the Giants playbook and he may not know enough to emulate other teams' offenses.

Why can't Jones do this? There are several teams around the league with only 2 QB's on their roster. Look at Jax, they had Foles and Minshew on their roster and that's it. What does Tanney offer that Jones doesn't besides experience?
RE: Can someone explain to me...  
Diver_Down : 9/11/2019 2:40 pm : link
In comment 14571770 Tesla said:
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why we brought back Kareem Martin for $6 million this year? He's like our 6th highest cap hit on the team.

What the hell did he do last year to deserve being brought back at that number, or at all????


He is a Bettcher Boy. All the more reason to hold Bettcher accountable.
I hope they put Martin on IR  
Jay on the Island : 9/11/2019 2:47 pm : link
It would force the Giants to play Ximines and Skipper more. Let's face it this season isn't ending with a playoff spot, giving time to the young players to see if they are long term building blocks will pay dividends.
RE: RE: Can someone explain to me...  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/11/2019 3:00 pm : link
In comment 14571775 Strahan91 said:
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why we brought back Kareem Martin for $6 million this year? He's like our 6th highest cap hit on the team.

What the hell did he do last year to deserve being brought back at that number, or at all????


They would've only saved $2M by cutting him given the dead cap hit by cutting him. They can save $5M this upcoming year which I'm sure they will. Now if you want to ask what they saw to sign him to the contract he got to begin with, that I have no answer for.

Unless you think you can upgrade over Martin for less than $5M (which isn't necessarily unreasonable), it's important to also keep the dead money itself in mind even though there's a net savings attached to releasing Martin.

And just as importantly, when you make a practice of cutting players before they reach the end of their contract, you remove the opportunity for those players to help you pick up compensatory picks.

Martin may not seem like a huge impact on either front, but in the aggregate, it does matter.
Martin Sucks  
wonderback : 9/11/2019 4:08 pm : link
The next time I hear his name making a play will be the first time. Now I'll probably have to wait until next year.
Good news on Jones  
BillT : 9/11/2019 4:27 pm : link
I thought he was a good find and added something to the WR and ST.
RE: 'Wow how this franchise has fallen....'  
HomerJones45 : 9/11/2019 4:36 pm : link
In comment 14571799 Torrag said:
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DG and Shurmur going on game 18 of their program. Try employing a reasonable amount of patience in reaching judgements about their rebuild.
Last year, we held the Cowboys under 300 yards offense in a 20-13 loss. It was 13-3 at the end of the 3rd quarter. Barkley ran the ball 11 times and caught 14 passes. Prescott was 16-25 160 yards.

After 18 games of the tender ministrations of Frick and Frack, how did we do on Sunday?
Interesting  
5BowlsSoon : 9/11/2019 4:57 pm : link
They chose TJ over Zo. Didn’t they cut TJ first?
I thought Jones was hurt.  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 9/11/2019 5:01 pm : link
One of the reasons they released him.
RE: Interesting  
Festina Lente : 9/11/2019 5:15 pm : link
In comment 14572010 5BowlsSoon said:
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They chose TJ over Zo. Didn’t they cut TJ first?


I was also wondering about this. Maybe they were looking for a specific WR profile to complement the healthy starters and TJ fit that better than Russel
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Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/11/2019 5:20 pm : link
In comment 14572030 Festina Lente said:
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They chose TJ over Zo. Didn’t they cut TJ first?



I was also wondering about this. Maybe they were looking for a specific WR profile to complement the healthy starters and TJ fit that betters than Russel

TJ is more a route runner like SS I assume.
RE: RE: RE: Interesting  
AcidTest : 9/11/2019 7:37 pm : link
In comment 14572038 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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They chose TJ over Zo. Didn’t they cut TJ first?



I was also wondering about this. Maybe they were looking for a specific WR profile to complement the healthy starters and TJ fit that betters than Russel


TJ is more a route runner like SS I assume.


^This.
RE: RE: 'Wow how this franchise has fallen....'  
section125 : 9/12/2019 6:51 am : link
In comment 14571992 HomerJones45 said:
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DG and Shurmur going on game 18 of their program. Try employing a reasonable amount of patience in reaching judgements about their rebuild.

Last year, we held the Cowboys under 300 yards offense in a 20-13 loss. It was 13-3 at the end of the 3rd quarter. Barkley ran the ball 11 times and caught 14 passes. Prescott was 16-25 160 yards.

After 18 games of the tender ministrations of Frick and Frack, how did we do on Sunday?


A lot more rookie and 2nd year starters..?

Everybody wants to play the young guys and young guys get picked on and beat up. Trial by fire.

Now sit Bethea and play Chandler or Love.
Always with..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2019 8:39 am : link
the comedy gold:

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Last year, we held the Cowboys under 300 yards offense in a 20-13 loss. It was 13-3 at the end of the 3rd quarter. Barkley ran the ball 11 times and caught 14 passes. Prescott was 16-25 160 yards.

After 18 games of the tender ministrations of Frick and Frack, how did we do on Sunday?


How did we do in the final game of last season?

Before you tackle that rhetorical posing - it was far more than 300 yards and 20 points.
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