Prepare to barf: Flowers with a glowing debut

Talk about playing the looooong con.......

him inside instead of right tackle. Time will tell.

too. I’m not sure why the Giants didn’t try him there?

that it is reported by an unbiased site other than HogsHaven.

suggested that same move constantly, oh well...

and focused on Flowers out of curiosity. I thought he play really well until he didn't. He had two plays were he completely whiffed and almost got his QB killed. I think this might be the type of player he is. 90% really good, 10% really bad.

It would be like a RB that averages 10 yards/carry but fumbles at least once a game.

When has Flowers ever been 90% good?

give up 3 pressures and commit 2 penalties?

After Keemun converted a 4th and 8 at midfield. Next play holding flowers ruined the drive. Love the hype after week 1. By week 4 his ass will be on the bench

is now considered playing well. Ok, I guess that fits today's landscape.

and blocking with his hands high. Same exact flowers. The positive I saw, he looked for contact.. That was never the cream puff here

Washington's O line became a turnstile in the second half mostly through Flowers side -- looked like the same old Flowers to me

In comment 14572351 gidiefor said:

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Washington's O line became a turnstile in the second half mostly through Flowers side -- looked like the same old Flowers to me

He looked much better in the first half though -- I guess he must have gotten tired

Like bad plays get him down and he starts to break down. Its hard to explain those plays where he just lapses, like he forgot the play or was almost thinking about something else.

watched the first half or so of that game, when he was very good. He apparently got worse and reverted to form in the second half with three pressures and two penalties.

he had a couple of pressures and a hit (maybe two), no highlight whiffs. There was a holding call on him that was bogus - was actually the LT. There wasn't a lot of run blocking - the announcers said at the end that WASH had no running first downs in the entire game, which seemed unbelievable but I guess it was true.

He looked better than out on the edge, he's definitely going to be a better guard than he was a OT. Biggest problem for WASH was the right side of the OL, although my eyes were keyed on Flowers I could see pressure coming from the right side of the line several times.

With his technique, it will fall apart and he will be the same shitball. I find it hilarious that this Hogs Haven site is drooling over this suck bag.

In comment 14572333 Simms11 said:

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too. I’m not sure why the Giants didn’t try him there?

As I recall the Giants floated the idea of moving him to guard and he told them no, he was a tackle. Then an injury happened and it made the point moot.

....however he totally blew here.

That gif above of him missing a block - and then chipping off his own man - is classic!!!!!

In comment 14572333 Simms11 said:

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too. I’m not sure why the Giants didn’t try him there?

+1

He said Flowers was solid in the first half. He said it was the opposite in the second half. I am sure many will just assume he had a great game and bash Gettleman for not "trying him at guard."

to play up to "competent" on the OL. I doubt this is the beginning of a turn around though.

you want in your locker room.

and even tapped out right after that.

Most of the Redskins had a pretty good first half. The 1 PM games thread here was actually a little concerned that maybe the Redskins will be better than expected this year.

I chalked it up to the Eagles sleepwalking, and the second half proved me right.

and even commented on it on the 1PM game thread. But he got lazy or maybe tired in the second half. Very much the Flowers we know, complete with 2 penalties. But that first half, yeah, I was bummed lol. He looked pretty good and not against scrubs either. Held his own against Fletcher Cox on a few occasions.

5 years in the League - and still not fully invested.

You can be pretty safe claiming this is not a foundation player.

In comment 14572333 Simms11 said:

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too. I’m not sure why the Giants didn’t try him there?

I'd be concerned if the Giants took position advice from BBI. ;)

In comment 14572333 Simms11 said:

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too. I’m not sure why the Giants didn’t try him there?

The Giants are a bad team.

In comment 14572361 Dan in the Springs said:

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he had a couple of pressures and a hit (maybe two), no highlight whiffs. There was a holding call on him that was bogus - was actually the LT. There wasn't a lot of run blocking - the announcers said at the end that WASH had no running first downs in the entire game, which seemed unbelievable but I guess it was true. He looked better than out on the edge, he's definitely going to be a better guard than he was a OT. Biggest problem for WASH was the right side of the OL, although my eyes were keyed on Flowers I could see pressure coming from the right side of the line several times.

I agree I watched that whole game. Sure I was at a bar but I wanted to see how he would do at guard, and honestly from that perspective he was not horrible by any means... lol.

I said the Giants should have moved him inside back when he was here. Was not a popular opinion!

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and from various reports, it sounds like he was mediocre at best, granted that's a massive improvement from his overall play here. But even in his time here, he had stretches where he looked competent and I'm sure you can scour the archives and even find some game reviews where he was "good".

For what it's worth... we're talking about one half of serviceable play and our own OL doesn't look like it's anywhere near the massive problem it has been in the past.

Odds are, Flowers will turn back into a pumpkin. It sounds like he kind of did in the same game anyway.

Our glaring issue has shifted from the offensive line to the back 7/8 of the defense.

He's still at best an average to below average guard.

Both of our current guards are better...

So why would we want him?

first and second half. The Redskins, their O-line and Flowers all look pretty good in the first half, mostly pass blocking.

Not worth debating this but I think Philly defense looked like they were "dogging it" in first half

Second half was a completely different story and Flowers and the rest of that line were committing penalties and run blocking was abysmal, creating bad down/distances.

My overall opinion - we should be happy he plays for the Redskins...

All day over this bum.

In comment 14572703 Jimmy Googs said:

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Not worth debating this but I think Philly defense looked like they were "dogging it" in first half

Interesting perception - it really was a tale of two halves -- because Chase Keenum was on fire in the first half - he looked like Dak Prescott did playing the Giants - then he couldn't make a play for love nor money in the second half - I mean the Skins were outright stifled - so there might be some truth to this

has a few good games here as well but overall he cant sustain any kind of consistent play and needed to go

and he refused. He never came across as the most coachable kid.

Maybe he's finally realized this is his last chance.

In comment 14572579 Greg from LI said:

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Do you really want Flowers on this roster?? You can probably find better places to work in that jab

Hell, the Redskins won't want him by mid year.

Here's how bad Flowers is - having a decent first half is reason for some people to question why we didn't use him at Guard, yet he had a pretty piss poor 2nd half reminiscent of his performances here.

In comment 14572720 gidiefor said:

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In comment 14572703 Jimmy Googs said: Quote: Not worth debating this but I think Philly defense looked like they were "dogging it" in first half Interesting perception - it really was a tale of two halves -- because Chase Keenum was on fire in the first half - he looked like Dak Prescott did playing the Giants - then he couldn't make a play for love nor money in the second half - I mean the Skins were outright stifled - so there might be some truth to this

My neighbor is Eagle fan and he indicated this Eagle team a year ago also had a lot of slow starts to games in first half. They did against us as well in at least one of the games.

from preseason where he completely whiffed one on one and got Keenum crushed right up the gut.

Matter of time. Flowers is, was, and will always be a bum.

In comment 14572703 Jimmy Googs said:

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first and second half. The Redskins, their O-line and Flowers all look pretty good in the first half, mostly pass blocking. Not worth debating this but I think Philly defense looked like they were "dogging it" in first half Second half was a completely different story and Flowers and the rest of that line were committing penalties and run blocking was abysmal, creating bad down/distances. My overall opinion - we should be happy he plays for the Redskins...

I agree, the Philly D looked rusty in the first half.

I’ll say this though - McLaurin looked good at WR. Just imagine if Jones has had WRs like that at Duke.

on waiver day this week!

because he thought he was a good LT (delusional as that may be) and he knew that LT's made a lot more money than G's.