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Tuzar Skipper comments from Steelers Message board

NYG27 : 9/12/2019 8:30 am
I was curious on what Steelers fans thoughts were about Skipper being released and then claimed by the Giants. Below are a few comments...

Tuzar waived. Holton promoted to 53. Why?

I rarely get upset with these moves anymore but thats dumb, IMO.

5 sacks 2 forced fumbles in preseason. Are we dumb?

This is another in the long line of guys putting together a solid camp forcing themselves on to the 53 and Tomlin cutting them loose.

Before writing him off, think about how many other quality players on our roster (and throughout the league) are undrafted guys who proved themselves in camp and preseason. Tuzar kicked quite a bit of ass in the preseason this year.

Doesn't make a ton of sense to drop Skipper, but maybe they know something we don't. I would probably have liked to see Skipper take Matakevich's place, but I'm not the one running the team. Hopefully he clears waivers and can be added to the practice squad

Skipper played like a young James Harrison & seem like an insurance policy. It's mentally retarded to risk a player like this on waivers.

I donít really pay attention to the Giants but I heard they are starving for pass rushers so I think if he has anything to offer he will stick there. I will definitely try and catch a few snaps to see how he does.
Nice tidbit  
Tuckrule : 9/12/2019 8:37 am : link
I heard a steeler beat reporter discuss skipper. He basically said heís really raw but heís a worker. If you give him time he can develop. Looks like we are speeding up that process. Heíll get snaps this week splitting time with ximines
The Steelers planned on leaving unprotected for about an hour...  
Capt. Don : 9/12/2019 8:40 am : link
The Giants saw what they were doing - and scooped him.

Position coaches were pissed.
This could make  
Pete in MD : 9/12/2019 8:58 am : link
for an awkward Thanksgiving at Kate's parent's house.
Giant front office awake at the wheel  
Poktown Pete : 9/12/2019 8:59 am : link
.
Pretty reasonable takes  
BillT : 9/12/2019 9:04 am : link
If the situation were reversed why do I think the reactions here might be a bit more vociferous. (Who was that HOF TE the Pats climbed from us.)
Nothing against Tuzar Skipper...  
M.S. : 9/12/2019 9:15 am : link

...whatsoever.

But if this guy sees a lot of snaps this weekend, then -- as far as our defense is concerned -- we are royally fooked for the 2019 season.

RE: Nothing against Tuzar Skipper...  
Giantology : 9/12/2019 9:17 am : link
In comment 14572376 M.S. said:
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...whatsoever.

But if this guy sees a lot of snaps this weekend, then -- as far as our defense is concerned -- we are royally fooked for the 2019 season.


Based on what, exactly? Who else is going to take those snaps that makes us royally unfooked?
RE: Nothing against Tuzar Skipper...  
UConn4523 : 9/12/2019 9:20 am : link
In comment 14572376 M.S. said:
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...whatsoever.

But if this guy sees a lot of snaps this weekend, then -- as far as our defense is concerned -- we are royally fooked for the 2019 season.


This is a pretty poor take. If he can bring some pressure would that not be a good thing?
RE: RE: Nothing against Tuzar Skipper...  
BillKo : 9/12/2019 9:20 am : link
In comment 14572378 Giantology said:
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...whatsoever.

But if this guy sees a lot of snaps this weekend, then -- as far as our defense is concerned -- we are royally fooked for the 2019 season.




Based on what, exactly? Who else is going to take those snaps that makes us royally unfooked?


Translation: can we do any worse?? LOL
RE: Pretty reasonable takes  
Tuckrule : 9/12/2019 9:20 am : link
In comment 14572366 BillT said:
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If the situation were reversed why do I think the reactions here might be a bit more vociferous. (Who was that HOF TE the Pats climbed from us.)


Will tye?
RE: Nothing against Tuzar Skipper...  
TyreeHelmet : 9/12/2019 9:25 am : link
In comment 14572376 M.S. said:
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...whatsoever.

But if this guy sees a lot of snaps this weekend, then -- as far as our defense is concerned -- we are royally fooked for the 2019 season.


Exactly. I hope this guy works out. But productive talented pass rushers donít get out on practice squads.
RE: RE: Nothing against Tuzar Skipper...  
widmerseyebrow : 9/12/2019 9:34 am : link
In comment 14572384 UConn4523 said:
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...whatsoever.

But if this guy sees a lot of snaps this weekend, then -- as far as our defense is concerned -- we are royally fooked for the 2019 season.




This is a pretty poor take. If he can bring some pressure would that not be a good thing?


A fringe player from another team brought in mid week is going to blow assignments the more snaps he plays. That's a net negative weighed against any situational pressure he brings. He should get situational snaps and be eased in as he gets comfortable with the playbook. If he's playing a lot, its because X is injured or getting bullied.
RE: RE: Pretty reasonable takes  
Ceez2.0 : 9/12/2019 9:34 am : link
In comment 14572386 Tuckrule said:
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If the situation were reversed why do I think the reactions here might be a bit more vociferous. (Who was that HOF TE the Pats climbed from us.)



Will tye?


I thought it was Jake Ballard?
Here are some preseason highlights of him  
Oldschoolgiant : 9/12/2019 9:36 am : link
I know its against 2nd and 3rd stringers, but he looks like a beast. All over the place! I can not believe Steelers would take a chance to put hi on waivers.
The Skipper's highlights - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Nothing against Tuzar Skipper...  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/12/2019 9:38 am : link
In comment 14572384 UConn4523 said:
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...whatsoever.

But if this guy sees a lot of snaps this weekend, then -- as far as our defense is concerned -- we are royally fooked for the 2019 season.




This is a pretty poor take. If he can bring some pressure would that not be a good thing?

At least he didn't spell anything out in initials. I consider it a solid post whenever he avoids that triteness.
This guy brings that relentless  
Simms11 : 9/12/2019 9:39 am : link
attitude you need as a pass rusher. My hope is we see more from Cater and Golden though. Can't ever hy ave enough Pass Rushers.
DG  
Joey in VA : 9/12/2019 9:46 am : link
Has a good track record with these types. Dom Hixon, Kevin Boothe, Madison Hedgecock. He's got a good eye for these types.
I'm hopeful this guy can be an improvement  
jcn56 : 9/12/2019 9:48 am : link
if for no other reason than what we currently have absolutely sucks.

Just keep expectations managed - those comments you're reading, swap Lauletta and Tanney out for Skipper and Holton and there's little difference.
He is a cross between LT  
Vanzetti : 9/12/2019 10:19 am : link
And Jonas Seawright
RE: RE: Nothing against Tuzar Skipper...  
M.S. : 9/12/2019 10:21 am : link
In comment 14572378 Giantology said:
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...whatsoever.

But if this guy sees a lot of snaps this weekend, then -- as far as our defense is concerned -- we are royally fooked for the 2019 season.




Based on what, exactly? Who else is going to take those snaps that makes us royally unfooked?

Based on a very fundamental rule. If you pick up a waiver guy who is now your leading candidate as an Edge rusher, then what does that tell you about our team's pass rushing capability?

The cupboard is bare, as in empty.

As for Oshane Ximiness, he looks like he may be a future piece of the puzzle with 2019 being a year he gets to cut his teeth. I suppose the good news is that -- because we are the worst pass rushing team in the NFL -- a guy like Ximiness will surely get a good amount of playing time this year.
RE: RE: RE: Pretty reasonable takes  
Tuckrule : 9/12/2019 10:21 am : link
In comment 14572400 Ceez2.0 said:
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If the situation were reversed why do I think the reactions here might be a bit more vociferous. (Who was that HOF TE the Pats climbed from us.)



Will tye?



I thought it was Jake Ballard?


I believe your correct. Good call
RE: RE: RE: Nothing against Tuzar Skipper...  
Giantology : 9/12/2019 10:27 am : link
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...whatsoever.

But if this guy sees a lot of snaps this weekend, then -- as far as our defense is concerned -- we are royally fooked for the 2019 season.




Based on what, exactly? Who else is going to take those snaps that makes us royally unfooked?


Based on a very fundamental rule. If you pick up a waiver guy who is now your leading candidate as an Edge rusher, then what does that tell you about our team's pass rushing capability?

The cupboard is bare, as in empty.

As for Oshane Ximiness, he looks like he may be a future piece of the puzzle with 2019 being a year he gets to cut his teeth. I suppose the good news is that -- because we are the worst pass rushing team in the NFL -- a guy like Ximiness will surely get a good amount of playing time this year.


But you are ignoring the fact that there is no one else on the roster for Tuzar to take snaps away from, save from Ximines. It is a no lose situation to see what a young player with some potential has to offer, so it certainly doesn't make us any more or any less fucked this year.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Nothing against Tuzar Skipper...  
M.S. : 9/12/2019 10:33 am : link
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...whatsoever.

But if this guy sees a lot of snaps this weekend, then -- as far as our defense is concerned -- we are royally fooked for the 2019 season.




Based on what, exactly? Who else is going to take those snaps that makes us royally unfooked?


Based on a very fundamental rule. If you pick up a waiver guy who is now your leading candidate as an Edge rusher, then what does that tell you about our team's pass rushing capability?

The cupboard is bare, as in empty.

As for Oshane Ximiness, he looks like he may be a future piece of the puzzle with 2019 being a year he gets to cut his teeth. I suppose the good news is that -- because we are the worst pass rushing team in the NFL -- a guy like Ximiness will surely get a good amount of playing time this year.



But you are ignoring the fact that there is no one else on the roster for Tuzar to take snaps away from, save from Ximines. It is a no lose situation to see what a young player with some potential has to offer, so it certainly doesn't make us any more or any less fucked this year.

But that's not my point.

My point is that Tuzar Skipper is a symptom of how desperate the Giants are in trying to generate a pass rush!
my brothers comments  
hitdog42 : 9/12/2019 10:36 am : link
were that he has a great motor, can be a little stiff, tough guy that will play dinged up

my reply was "thanks kiper".

but he recruited and coached him... that was his tidbit on him
Like his highlights  
Payasdaddy : 9/12/2019 11:16 am : link
Nice first step. Burst. Some bend.
Would be nice if we steal a potential rotational / 3rd down pass rusher
See what happens. Seems like he can get on the field ASAP
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Nothing against Tuzar Skipper...  
Giantology : 9/12/2019 11:21 am : link
In comment 14572493 M.S. said:
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...whatsoever.

But if this guy sees a lot of snaps this weekend, then -- as far as our defense is concerned -- we are royally fooked for the 2019 season.




Based on what, exactly? Who else is going to take those snaps that makes us royally unfooked?


Based on a very fundamental rule. If you pick up a waiver guy who is now your leading candidate as an Edge rusher, then what does that tell you about our team's pass rushing capability?

The cupboard is bare, as in empty.

As for Oshane Ximiness, he looks like he may be a future piece of the puzzle with 2019 being a year he gets to cut his teeth. I suppose the good news is that -- because we are the worst pass rushing team in the NFL -- a guy like Ximiness will surely get a good amount of playing time this year.



But you are ignoring the fact that there is no one else on the roster for Tuzar to take snaps away from, save from Ximines. It is a no lose situation to see what a young player with some potential has to offer, so it certainly doesn't make us any more or any less fucked this year.


But that's not my point.

My point is that Tuzar Skipper is a symptom of how desperate the Giants are in trying to generate a pass rush!


No shit, which is why it makes no sense to say that our season is "royally fooked" now that he is getting snaps, we were already at that point. At least we brought in a young player and will give him a chance to prove himself
Has it been confirmed that he's going to play  
armstead98 : 9/12/2019 11:24 am : link
It sure seems like it and he said, "Sounds like they're ready to throw me into the fire right away, and I couldn't ask for a better opportunity, to tell you the truth."

But I haven't seen the Giants or anyone actually confirm that. Do we know?
Tell them  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/12/2019 11:26 am : link
its just batting practice.
RE: Like his highlights  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/12/2019 11:27 am : link
In comment 14572580 Payasdaddy said:
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Nice first step. Burst. Some bend.
Would be nice if we steal a potential rotational / 3rd down pass rusher
See what happens. Seems like he can get on the field ASAP

Looks strong. Jolts olineman. 30 BPs.
RE: Here are some preseason highlights of him  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/12/2019 11:28 am : link
Oldschoolgiant said:
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I know its against 2nd and 3rd stringers, but he looks like a beast. All over the place! I can not believe Steelers would take a chance to put hi on waivers.
They aren't simply second- and third-stringers. I did a quick search for the blockers Skipper beat in those clips, having identified six or seven of them. Not one made his team's 53-man roster. In fact, barring number changes, none appear to have even made the practice squad. So we'll just have to wait and see whether he can handle the step up in competition.

Don't mean to p!ss in anyone's corn flakes. Just adding data. For the record, the uniform numbers I checked were 75 and 64 on the Bucs, 63 and 79 on the Panthers, 64 on the Chiefs, and 88 and (I think) 68 on the Titans.
Looks like he beat up on a lot of TEís  
lono801 : 9/12/2019 11:34 am : link
As well

Guess we shall see
RE: Giant front office awake at the wheel  
ZogZerg : 9/12/2019 11:38 am : link
In comment 14572358 Poktown Pete said:
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Post of the Day! ;)
Wow, look at his hands...  
Johnny5 : 9/12/2019 12:02 pm : link
... he has some serious violence there. I know it was preseason sure, but I didn't see anything like that from too many of our edge guys during our preseason... lol

I'm excited actually.
And then here comes blogger...  
Johnny5 : 9/12/2019 12:05 pm : link
... to add some temper to expectations... lol
Skipper first day  
uther99 : 9/12/2019 12:17 pm : link
via Imgflip Meme Generator
RE: Nothing against Tuzar Skipper...  
Brown Recluse : 9/12/2019 12:25 pm : link
In comment 14572376 M.S. said:
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...whatsoever.

But if this guy sees a lot of snaps this weekend, then -- as far as our defense is concerned -- we are royally fooked for the 2019 season.


As if Kareem Martin was some huge loss? Haha. Come on.
fan insight before the last preseason game  
SteelGiant : 9/12/2019 12:43 pm : link
here
Link - ( New Window )
i know it was posted mulitple times  
SteelGiant : 9/12/2019 12:47 pm : link
but you want to hear how he was raised as a foster kid, it is a really nice piece:

Link - ( New Window )
Serious question  
crick n NC : 9/12/2019 12:55 pm : link
How could a player picked up this week know enough of the defense to not be a liability?

Admittedly I know nothing about the process of learning a different defense (or offense either).
The savior  
Gman11 : 9/12/2019 1:16 pm : link
has arrived. All hail, Tuzar Skipper.
RE: Here are some preseason highlights of him  
Dr. D : 9/12/2019 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14572401 Oldschoolgiant said:
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I know its against 2nd and 3rd stringers, but he looks like a beast. All over the place! I can not believe Steelers would take a chance to put hi on waivers. The Skipper's highlights - ( New Window )

Oldschool, thanks for the lonk. Me LIKEY! I can see why some people in Pitt are pissed!

Great job DG!
RE: Serious question  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/12/2019 2:14 pm : link
In comment 14572735 crick n NC said:
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How could a player picked up this week know enough of the defense to not be a liability?

Admittedly I know nothing about the process of learning a different defense (or offense either).

I would expect him in situational passing downs. Pretty simple to learn "go sack the QB".
RE: Wow, look at his hands...  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/12/2019 2:16 pm : link
In comment 14572666 Johnny5 said:
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... he has some serious violence there. I know it was preseason sure, but I didn't see anything like that from too many of our edge guys during our preseason... lol

I'm excited actually.

Haven't seem that since Osi, who oddly enough had a good bull rush move.
it's time the Giants  
Dnew15 : 9/12/2019 3:03 pm : link
get a lucky with one of these guys...they are due.

Haley might be on that list - but other than him - who's the last guy the Giants picked up and they turned into Cameron Wake?
RE: it's time the Giants  
Jay on the Island : 9/14/2019 3:24 pm : link
In comment 14572954 Dnew15 said:
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get a lucky with one of these guys...they are due.

Haley might be on that list - but other than him - who's the last guy the Giants picked up and they turned into Cameron Wake?

The Giants appear to have found a gem with Halapio. According to Sy he was outstanding week one versus a very tough defense in Dallas. Nick Gates is another player to keep an eye on as a potential find.
RE: RE: Nothing against Tuzar Skipper...  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/14/2019 11:04 pm : link
In comment 14572389 TyreeHelmet said:
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...whatsoever.

But if this guy sees a lot of snaps this weekend, then -- as far as our defense is concerned -- we are royally fooked for the 2019 season.




Exactly. I hope this guy works out. But productive talented pass rushers donít get out on practice squads.


Really? Giants cut Cam Wake. Of this guy develops great. He may be gone in weeks. But saying teams donít make mistakes. They do
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