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OBJ and Greg Williams

jeff57 : 9/12/2019 5:52 pm
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After practice on Thursday afternoon, Beckham was asked about Jets defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, and naturally, he did not hold back any feelings towards the coach.

"Nobody in the NFL is really out to do stuff like that, I had players on this team telling me that's what he was telling them to do," Beckham told reporters, according to Cleveland.com. "Take me out of the game, and it's preseason. So you just know who he is... that's the man calling the plays."


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jeff57 : 9/12/2019 5:53 pm : link
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He was asked if the injury in the preseason game led to the broken ankle he suffered later that season.

"That's exactly it," Beckham said. "It's something that I'll never forget. It changed my life forever."

The wide receiver seems convinced that his injury was caused by Williams' coaching strategy.
He's not wrong about Williams.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/12/2019 5:55 pm : link
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But  
Toth029 : 9/12/2019 6:01 pm : link
I thought that was Manning's fault.
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RE: But  
section125 : 9/12/2019 6:06 pm : link
In comment 14573197 Toth029 said:
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I thought that was Manning's fault.


Manning was in cahoots with Williams. He threw it high so the DB could submarine OBJ....
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ron mexico : 9/12/2019 6:07 pm : link
In comment 14573205 section125 said:
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I thought that was Manning's fault.



Manning was in cahoots with Williams. He threw it high so the DB could submarine OBJ....


If only they had one with three buttons.
Williams should be banned  
Bruner4329 : 9/12/2019 6:08 pm : link
Same guy right in the middle of the bounty issue in New Orleans. Can't teach an old guy new tricks. NFL so worried about player's safety yet they let guys like this stick around.
Well, OBJ knows  
jvm52106 : 9/12/2019 6:11 pm : link
when the time comes to stick to Williams- I mean, how can he not know the time with a $250k watch on..
SOS  
Bruner4329 : 9/12/2019 6:11 pm : link
The NFL began investigating the Saints in 2010 in response to allegations of deliberate attempts to injure players during the 2009–10 playoffs, but the investigation stalled until late in the 2011 season. On March 2, 2012, the NFL announced that it had evidence that defensive coordinator Gregg Williams had created the program soon after his arrival in 2009, and alleged that "between 22 and 27 Saints players" were involved.[7] Williams and the players pooled their own money to pay out performance bonuses. It also asserted that head coach Sean Payton tried to cover up the scheme, and that he and general manager Mickey Loomis failed to shut it down when ordered to do so by team owner Tom Benson. Since then, Williams has been accused of operating similar schemes during his tenure as defensive coordinator of the Tennessee Oilers/Titans and Washington Redskins and as head coach of the Buffalo Bills; the NFL briefly investigated these allegations but elected to focus on the Saints.
He’s not wrong  
Kurtt : 9/12/2019 6:12 pm : link
I still remember to this day how blatant the Gregg Williams led Rams defense in 20114 was trying to take him out of that game.
RE: Williams should be banned  
Ira : 9/12/2019 6:14 pm : link
In comment 14573209 Bruner4329 said:
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Same guy right in the middle of the bounty issue in New Orleans. Can't teach an old guy new tricks. NFL so worried about player's safety yet they let guys like this stick around.


It should have been done a long time ago.
More accurate  
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arcarsenal : 9/12/2019 6:23 pm : link
I have no problem siding with Beckham on this... Williams is a tremendous POS and I doubt doubt for a second that he said something like that to his players.
RE: More accurate  
Johnny5 : 9/12/2019 6:27 pm : link
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Now dat right there am funny!
RE: He’s not wrong  
robbieballs2003 : 9/12/2019 6:39 pm : link
In comment 14573213 Kurtt said:
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I still remember to this day how blatant the Gregg Williams led Rams defense in 20114 was trying to take him out of that game.


100%. I remember the saftey lowering his head like a missile, missing Beckham, hitting his own player, and knocking his own teeth out. In fact, Demontre Moore was the only teammate that stuck up for Beckham albiet drawing a 15 yard penalty in the process but at that point something had to be done. It was so blatant. Normally I would say getting a personal foul penalty is not the right way to handle that situation but that was a rare case where I didn't give a fuck.
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ron mexico : 9/12/2019 6:45 pm : link
In comment 14573237 robbieballs2003 said:
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I still remember to this day how blatant the Gregg Williams led Rams defense in 20114 was trying to take him out of that game.



100%. I remember the saftey lowering his head like a missile, missing Beckham, hitting his own player, and knocking his own teeth out. In fact, Demontre Moore was the only teammate that stuck up for Beckham albiet drawing a 15 yard penalty in the process but at that point something had to be done. It was so blatant. Normally I would say getting a personal foul penalty is not the right way to handle that situation but that was a rare case where I didn't give a fuck.


there should have been a flag on that play for launching

Didn't matter though, this was the very next play

NGT.  
90.Cal : 9/12/2019 6:50 pm : link
who cares
RE: But  
Darth Paul : 9/12/2019 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14573197 Toth029 said:
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I thought that was Manning's fault.


Nice one.
If what he is saying is true  
eclipz928 : 9/12/2019 6:53 pm : link
shouldn't the NFL be investigating this? I would think that Gregg Williams would have to be kicked out of the league again if there are players willing to put on the record that he was doing the same nonsense that he was doing the last time.
What?  
djstat : 9/12/2019 7:03 pm : link
How did Williams impact his pre season injury? Legal hit.
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ron mexico : 9/12/2019 7:09 pm : link
In comment 14573252 djstat said:
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How did Williams impact his pre season injury? Legal hit. OBJ injury - ( New Window )


legal doesn't mean its not dirty
No one said obj was skumbag  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/12/2019 7:13 pm : link
Williams is a skumbag. Not surprising hes working for the Jets, they're bush league.
I think OBJ has reached the level where  
Motley Two : 9/12/2019 7:27 pm : link
he doesn't have to worry about coaches instructing players to take shots at him.
There are plenty of players able to reach that conclusion on their own based on his personality & the attention he gets.
You get the feeling  
ron mexico : 9/12/2019 7:27 pm : link
OBJ isn’t gonna pull any punches this year.
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SteelGiant : 9/12/2019 8:47 pm : link
In comment 14573199 ron mexico said:
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Love this!
If the NFL was serious about player safety,  
an_idol_mind : 9/12/2019 9:41 pm : link
they would have given Williams a lifetime ban.
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bw in dc : 9/12/2019 9:52 pm : link
In comment 14573414 an_idol_mind said:
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they would have given Williams a lifetime ban.


Absolutely. He's a total skeeve. Just pond scum. What a "perfect" match he and the other scum, Sean Payton, were in New Orleans...
The OBJ video from ron...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 9:53 pm : link
against the Rams was OBJ as his absolute best. That speed in and out of his cut are just super-human.

We have seen anything like that sense.
RE: The OBJ video from ron...  
ron mexico : 9/12/2019 10:01 pm : link
In comment 14573424 bw in dc said:
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against the Rams was OBJ as his absolute best. That speed in and out of his cut are just super-human.

We have seen anything like that sense.


Is that jackrabbit that he burned?
I think it's the S...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 10:04 pm : link
Mark Barron...?

Yes  
ZogZerg : 9/12/2019 10:06 pm : link
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I think  
ZogZerg : 9/12/2019 10:06 pm : link
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BTW...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 10:08 pm : link
My other post should say...

We haven't seen anything like that since...RE: OBJ.

Damn Ipad.
That play were OBJ split the safeties for a long my TD vs the Rams  
BlueLou'sBack : 9/12/2019 11:06 pm : link
Wasn't that one where Eli recognized the safeties cheating up and taking steps vs a certain formation and/or pattern run by other receivers on shallower routes, and he drew it up in the grass what he wanted OBJ to do precisely?

Worked like a charm.
RE: Williams should be banned  
mrvax : 9/13/2019 12:07 am : link
In comment 14573209 Bruner4329 said:
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Same guy right in the middle of the bounty issue in New Orleans. Can't teach an old guy new tricks. NFL so worried about player's safety yet they let guys like this stick around.


Williams should have been banned from the NFL for lifetime after doing what he did.
I'm sure this was the instruction given to players  
Gman11 : 9/13/2019 7:19 am : link
Williams: OK, guys. Here's the plan. Whenever Beckham runs a 15 yard out and Manning throws the ball high be sure to take his legs out from him in a way that injures him.

If that was a head shot then I would think Beckham has a case. But, taking his legs out? That's how 98% of the DBs in the league tackle!
RE: RE: Williams should be banned  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 9/13/2019 7:24 am : link
In comment 14573589 mrvax said:
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In comment 14573209 Bruner4329 said:


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Same guy right in the middle of the bounty issue in New Orleans. Can't teach an old guy new tricks. NFL so worried about player's safety yet they let guys like this stick around.



Williams should have been banned from the NFL for lifetime after doing what he did.


And Williams learned from another scumbag, Jeff Fisher. And Jeff Fisher learned from the biggest scumbag of them all, Buddy Ryan.
RE: RE: The OBJ video from ron...  
arcarsenal : 9/13/2019 7:54 am : link
In comment 14573436 ron mexico said:
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against the Rams was OBJ as his absolute best. That speed in and out of his cut are just super-human.

We have seen anything like that sense.



Is that jackrabbit that he burned?


Mark Barron
RE: The OBJ video from ron...  
arcarsenal : 9/13/2019 7:55 am : link
In comment 14573424 bw in dc said:
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against the Rams was OBJ as his absolute best. That speed in and out of his cut are just super-human.

We have seen anything like that sense.


I don't know - he had some pretty incredible explosion in 2016. He basically won this team games with his speed.

That was the last year I saw that burst from him. He wasn't right early 2017 before he got hurt, and last year I didn't see that gear at all.
Pretty smart move by OBJ....  
Britt in VA : 9/13/2019 8:34 am : link
put a giant target on his back, and rile up the dudes that are going to be tackling him.

Way to think it through.
RE: Pretty smart move by OBJ....  
christian : 9/13/2019 8:49 am : link
In comment 14573754 Britt in VA said:
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put a giant target on his back, and rile up the dudes that are going to be tackling him.

Way to think it through.


Or more likely setting the focus of the refs on it.
RE: RE: Pretty smart move by OBJ....  
ron mexico : 9/13/2019 8:53 am : link
In comment 14573779 christian said:
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put a giant target on his back, and rile up the dudes that are going to be tackling him.

Way to think it through.



Or more likely setting the focus of the refs on it.


It’s probably a combination of this and how he truly feels about Williams.
I remember that play well  
Jay on the Island : 9/13/2019 10:17 am : link
I was upset, as was the majority of BBI, after that hit. We instantly blamed Williams for the cheap shot. It was further proof what a POS Greg Williams is. He was ordering a cheap shot in the preseason vs a player from a team not in his conference and that they would NOT face in the regular season. Why on earth would they want to hurt Beckham there? How does that benefit the Browns?
All you need to know is when Alec Ogletree was traded here,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/13/2019 10:23 am : link
two of the questions he was asked by the media were, "Did the Rams have a bounty on Odell Beckham during that game?" and later during training camp, "Are you and Odell Beckham okay?"

Gregg Williams really shouldn't have been allowed to coach again. As others have said, he's truly a scumbag.
In terms of player safety  
Jay on the Island : 9/13/2019 11:04 am : link
Greg Williams should have been banned for life. I still can't believe teams employ this POS.
Every owner and GM knows what they are getting with  
TMS : 9/13/2019 11:39 am : link
Williams and that is what they want.
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