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ron mexico : 9/12/2019 7:42 pm
Gotta take Car -7 here, right?

Winston hasn’t won a road game in two years, I don’t think he breaks that streak tonight.
Anyone catch cam Newtons  
bubba0825 : 9/12/2019 7:46 pm : link
Outfit? I’ve never seen some try so hard yet have no style at all
I teased the panthers with colts and took first half under 23.5  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 7:59 pm : link
kicking myself for not getting 24. Dropped Jameis in fantasy for Carr.
Is this for real? This is such a bullshit excuse to test out this shit  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 8:23 pm : link
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Only have the cable camera  
bubba0825 : 9/12/2019 8:23 pm : link
Going right now. I guess the threat of lighting is keeping people inside
RE: Only have the cable camera  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 8:25 pm : link
In comment 14573330 bubba0825 said:
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Going right now. I guess the threat of lighting is keeping people inside


This has never happened before. It's a total excuse. They were testing this out in preseason. They'll bring them back out after Twitter explodes
...  
HitSquad : 9/12/2019 8:25 pm : link
The cable cam is the perfect camera for running plays. You can see how the blocking unfolds.
RE: RE: Only have the cable camera  
ron mexico : 9/12/2019 8:27 pm : link
In comment 14573331 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In comment 14573330 bubba0825 said:


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Going right now. I guess the threat of lighting is keeping people inside



This has never happened before. It's a total excuse. They were testing this out in preseason. They'll bring them back out after Twitter explodes


I kind a like it, wish they would keep it just a bit wider And stop with the weird pans Out of the huddle
The entire..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2019 8:31 pm : link
production layout sucks tonight. The graphics look like they are from the 90's.

And it is bullshit about the lightning. If it was s significant risk, they'd clear the stands.
RE: The entire..  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 8:33 pm : link
In comment 14573346 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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production layout sucks tonight. The graphics look like they are from the 90's.

And it is bullshit about the lightning. If it was s significant risk, they'd clear the stands.


Exactly, do they think people are stupid?
...  
HitSquad : 9/12/2019 8:33 pm : link
I'd love if they had an option to pick whatever camera angle you want if you're streaming the game online.

I remember CBS did it for Super Bowl 47. You could choose between Regular View, Sky Cam and All-22.

I had 3 different computers open and watched all 3 lol
Lol Joe Buck with the Twitter bomb....ifvthey were expecting people  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 8:34 pm : link
to be pissed why bother trying it.
And the game has come to  
bubba0825 : 9/12/2019 8:38 pm : link
A stop with commercials
I can't deal with the camera angle...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 8:38 pm : link
behind the LOS. Can't get any feel for distance.

Unless they go with the more traditional view - granted it's higher tonight - I'll bail.
Jerome..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2019 8:41 pm : link
Boger is a putz
Booger doing his Booger thing  
jgambrosio : 9/12/2019 8:41 pm : link
fucking up calls.

Cam had that.
Replay  
MookGiants : 9/12/2019 8:41 pm : link
is a fucking abortion.

He clearly got the ball to the 46, probably even further than that. I dont care if they only had 1 camera for it, it was easy to see he got the first down.

Get rid of this garbage.
What the hell is up with Cam's hair?  
rnargi : 9/12/2019 8:42 pm : link
He looks like he's wearing a sham-wow mop on his head.
Can the Thursday package...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 8:42 pm : link
get any more disastrous?

And frankly I love it. A complete money grab...and the only couldn't care less about the quality of the product and safety.

Such phonies...
Why did they even bother starting this game?  
jgambrosio : 9/12/2019 8:42 pm : link
Delay 6 minutes in?
RE: Why did they even bother starting this game?  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 8:43 pm : link
In comment 14573360 jgambrosio said:
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Delay 6 minutes in?


So they could test out these camera angles. This shit is so fishy.
TNF..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2019 8:43 pm : link
really is a sham. And like bw said - an unabashed sham.

By the way - I live 15 minutes from uptown and it isn't even raining here.
The nfl must really be invested in getting  
bubba0825 : 9/12/2019 8:45 pm : link
Those west coast viewers starting these games so late on work nights
Top notch production NFL  
ghost718 : 9/12/2019 8:45 pm : link
I can see how you guys make billions
If there actually isn't any lightning recorded in the area the NFL  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 8:48 pm : link
is going to be found out with their little plan here.
Speaking of production, as someone who's done audio work  
ChaChing : 9/12/2019 8:53 pm : link
it's amazing how bad it is today. Game seemed ok, but in studio there was a doubling of the signal. Then with Wolf & Irvin talking, they STILL haven't muted the studio mics so you hear them talking the whole segment...such shit work
and basic fundamental stuff  
ChaChing : 9/12/2019 8:54 pm : link
like muting mics off screen or just not involved in the segment
The NFL knew exactly what they were doing with this camera thing  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 9:05 pm : link
and it fucked the Panthers over.
So..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2019 9:08 pm : link
it is now safe to play and the storm moved through, yet the camera guys get to stay in the van?
There is a reason why  
Jolly Blue Giant : 9/12/2019 9:18 pm : link
end zone tickets are not as expensive as sideline tickets.....these angles suck
Lighting fatalities?  
trueblueinpw : 9/12/2019 9:21 pm : link
Has there ever been an incident of lightning striking a sporting event? Serious question. I Googled but could couldn’t find anything.
Troy blazin up in the booth  
ChaChing : 9/12/2019 9:23 pm : link
even the mention of Gramatica he can't stop laughing

i mean, he's soooo short. Hilarious!
RE: Lighting fatalities?  
trueblueinpw : 9/12/2019 9:23 pm : link
In comment 14573394 trueblueinpw said:
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Has there ever been an incident of lightning striking a sporting event? Serious question. I Googled but could couldn’t find anything.


Eh, never mind, found the info.
That  
AcidTest : 9/12/2019 9:25 pm : link
is the definition of a fortuitous bounce.
Chase Blackburn sighting  
Scyber : 9/12/2019 9:26 pm : link
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The small cell has completely moved...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2019 9:28 pm : link
out of the area and there is no more threat of weather.

How long do you think it will be until the real cameras are used??
Okay...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 9:31 pm : link
I'm convinced Newton's arm still isn't right. He looks like he's trying to throw a bowling ball...or is it me?
2 and 30 run with McCaffrey and than try to throw a screen to him  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 9:35 pm : link
They are going to destroy him.
RE: Okay...  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 9:36 pm : link
In comment 14573405 bw in dc said:
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I'm convinced Newton's arm still isn't right. He looks like he's trying to throw a bowling ball...or is it me?


Its never going to. He uses a 3/4 throwing motion now. He's never going to have the same power again.
It  
AcidTest : 9/12/2019 9:41 pm : link
is hard to hold the ball that long and be successful.
How come  
PEEJ : 9/12/2019 9:42 pm : link
other teams can find punters who can rock a kick 50+ yds ?
RE: Okay...  
bradshaw44 : 9/12/2019 9:43 pm : link
In comment 14573405 bw in dc said:
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I'm convinced Newton's arm still isn't right. He looks like he's trying to throw a bowling ball...or is it me?


I can’t decide. If it’s that or the wet ball. But that pass to Olsen where Troy thought ball was tipped made me wonder.
RE: How come  
bradshaw44 : 9/12/2019 9:44 pm : link
In comment 14573416 PEEJ said:
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other teams can find punters who can rock a kick 50+ yds ?


I know one that can probably still do that. Although I prefer a directional kicker.
RE: RE: Okay...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 9:46 pm : link
In comment 14573417 bradshaw44 said:
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I can’t decide. If it’s that or the wet ball. But that pass to Olsen where Troy thought ball was tipped made me wonder.


It seem a lot more upper body now and hardly any lower body.
That  
AcidTest : 9/12/2019 9:47 pm : link
was a very nice play by Davis.
That..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2019 9:55 pm : link
OPI flag is indicative of exactly what is wrong with NFL officiating.

If you make a call like that with minimal contact that doesn't gain an advantage, you could call basically anything a penalty.

There are so many flags because they continue to use the majority of them on incidental or ticky-tack shit.
Winston. SUCKS!  
ZogZerg : 9/12/2019 9:55 pm : link
A team would be stupid to give him a big deal.
RE: Winston. SUCKS!  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2019 9:56 pm : link
In comment 14573426 ZogZerg said:
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A team would be stupid to give him a big deal.


TB was stupid to keep him as their starter. Especially when Fitz outplayed him
What is the real story with the camera BS?  
ZogZerg : 9/12/2019 9:59 pm : link
Players can be on the field, but not camera men?
That is complete Horseshit.
Cam is OFF big time tonight  
mattlawson : 9/12/2019 10:00 pm : link
I don’t usually watch his games is he always like this?
RE: RE: Winston. SUCKS!  
ZogZerg : 9/12/2019 10:00 pm : link
In comment 14573427 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14573426 ZogZerg said:


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A team would be stupid to give him a big deal.



TB was stupid to keep him as their starter. Especially when Fitz outplayed him


I agree. For some reason Arians loves him.
I think Zeke..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2019 10:00 pm : link
was right. They wanted to use the other cameras and used the weather as an excuse to do so.
RE: RE: RE: Okay...  
bradshaw44 : 9/12/2019 10:00 pm : link
In comment 14573420 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14573417 bradshaw44 said:


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I can’t decide. If it’s that or the wet ball. But that pass to Olsen where Troy thought ball was tipped made me wonder.



It seem a lot more upper body now and hardly any lower body.


That last pass definitely looked like he didn’t step into it. But that’s the only pass I’ve watched since this post of yours. Now im gonna watch closely. Something does seem off though.
Impressive catch there...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 10:01 pm : link
by Evans.

An absolute stud.
RE: Cam is OFF big time tonight  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2019 10:01 pm : link
In comment 14573430 mattlawson said:
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I don’t usually watch his games is he always like this?


Cam's been pretty poor the past two seasons. And bw is likely right. People around the team think he's got issues still with the shoulder.
Most of his throws are off by 5 yards  
mattlawson : 9/12/2019 10:03 pm : link
That’s not good
I wouldn't write off Jameis yet, the whole team had the flu last week  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 10:04 pm : link
and if someone can fix his decision making its him. Don't know if its bullshit or not but he said 2/3 picks weren't on him. You can tell tonight he is a little more conservative, there was one play on 3rd down you could tell he just wanted to throw a pick but ate the ball instead.

Cam is done as a QB, might as well bring back that offense they were running in his MVP year and make a run while you have McCaffrey on rookie contract.
Auclair...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 10:07 pm : link
is a very good blocking TE for Tampa.
Winston with a nice TD  
ZogZerg : 9/12/2019 10:07 pm : link
I guess he didn't like my post😀
Michael Irvin looks like he’s auditioning The Riddler in...  
Crispino : 9/12/2019 10:09 pm : link
the next Batman movie. Clown.
That is intentional grounding accordi g to the crew we had in Dallas  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 10:09 pm : link
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Nice  
AcidTest : 9/12/2019 10:10 pm : link
throw by Newton.
Another one  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 10:10 pm : link
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He ripped that throw indeed...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 10:10 pm : link
...
Forgot...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 10:12 pm : link
the Panthers signed one of the New England Widgets...
Riverboat Ron settling for 3 with that....he doesn't trust Cam anymore  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 10:13 pm : link
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Newton  
AcidTest : 9/12/2019 10:13 pm : link
has taken a beating over the years.
Nice  
AcidTest : 9/12/2019 10:14 pm : link
kick.
Yea I think something is up with his arm.  
bradshaw44 : 9/12/2019 10:16 pm : link
He zips one here and there. But all the others are Mcnabb esque
Who wins the fight...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 10:23 pm : link
Steve Smith v Michael Irvin?
Smith..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2019 10:26 pm : link
will win. He'll crack Irvin's jaw with a sucker punch as Mike is reaching for a pair of scissors.
RE: Smith..  
bradshaw44 : 9/12/2019 10:30 pm : link
In comment 14573465 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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will win. He'll crack Irvin's jaw with a sucker punch as Mike is reaching for a pair of scissors.


Lol
Cam looks like trash  
Mr. Bungle : 9/12/2019 10:32 pm : link
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Serious Question  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/12/2019 10:35 pm : link
Rotator cuff surgery for a baseball pitcher is nearly always the end of his career. Is it different for a QB? Is the throwing motion different enough so that rotator cuff surgery doesn’t significantly weaken the shoulder?
For all those who want to  
tyrik13 : 9/12/2019 10:45 pm : link
Sign Daryl Williams next year, I would say pump the breaks on that, he’s getting absolutely abused by Shaq Barrett of the Bucs. Barrett has 3 sacks, two of them came back to back and all three have been against Williams smdh.
RE: For all those who want to  
Ned In Atlanta : 9/12/2019 10:47 pm : link
In comment 14573479 tyrik13 said:
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Sign Daryl Williams next year, I would say pump the breaks on that, he’s getting absolutely abused by Shaq Barrett of the Bucs. Barrett has 3 sacks, two of them came back to back and all three have been against Williams smdh.



Yeah he looks god awful
Cam Newton  
GiantSteps : 9/12/2019 10:47 pm : link
He stuck his finger in one too many electrical outlets. He looks likes Yahoo Serious.
RE: Smith..  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 10:52 pm : link
In comment 14573465 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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will win. He'll crack Irvin's jaw with a sucker punch as Mike is reaching for a pair of scissors.


I can definitely see that. Smith looks and acts fearless. But I have a feeling you'd better kill Irvin because he'll be willing to kill you.

I was playing hoops years ago with Charles Haley at JMU. We were between games and I asked him about playing in Dallas with Aikman, Smitty, Irvin, etc. He said he and Irvin almost came to blows a few times and Irvin didn't back down an inch. Said he was fearless...
Do the Panthers know  
Mr. Bungle : 9/12/2019 10:54 pm : link
it's not preseason anymore?
I think Irvin...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 10:55 pm : link
might actually train with boxing or MMA stuff.
That's..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2019 10:59 pm : link
a bullshit penalty
RE: That's..  
Del Shofner : 9/12/2019 10:59 pm : link
In comment 14573492 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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a bullshit penalty


yup
Its a penalty ....Cam can't feel pressure.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 11:00 pm : link
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That's..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2019 11:00 pm : link
two critical calls tonight made on plays with negligible contact
ball don't lie!  
Del Shofner : 9/12/2019 11:00 pm : link
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There's..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2019 11:00 pm : link
karma
Fatman he was all over the guy holding him not sure what you see.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 11:00 pm : link
Thats a flag everytime.
This might sound premature...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 11:02 pm : link
but I think Carolina needs to seriously consider a new QB direction. I believe Cam's best days are behind him...

Now watch him come back and throw 3 TDs to win this in the 4th qtr... ;)
So do the Panthers move on from Cam? Can they?  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 11:02 pm : link
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Cam is awful  
bradshaw44 : 9/12/2019 11:03 pm : link
He’s clearly not 100%. He didn’t even seem to care he fumbled. Just got up and trotted off.
RE: Fatman he was all over the guy holding him not sure what you see.  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2019 11:03 pm : link
In comment 14573498 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Thats a flag everytime.


If that's called, then you can call any coverage on Shepard. There wasn't a grab - he had a hand on the WR's shoulder. No turning. no pulling.
RE: Cam is awful  
Mr. Bungle : 9/12/2019 11:05 pm : link
In comment 14573502 bradshaw44 said:
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He’s clearly not 100%. He didn’t even seem to care he fumbled. Just got up and trotted off.

To my eyes all night, Cam looks like he doesn't even want to be out there.
Lately..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2019 11:08 pm : link
it seems that Cam puts more effort into his apparel for the post-game pressers than he does the game.
RE: RE: Cam is awful  
bradshaw44 : 9/12/2019 11:10 pm : link
In comment 14573504 Mr. Bungle said:
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In comment 14573502 bradshaw44 said:


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He’s clearly not 100%. He didn’t even seem to care he fumbled. Just got up and trotted off.


To my eyes all night, Cam looks like he doesn't even want to be out there.


Absolutely. And this isn’t the first time he’s been this way. This is his MO from day one.
That's a terrible call..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2019 11:13 pm : link
as well
Lol they ran into each other....these guys are fucking inept..  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 11:13 pm : link
you don't see it don't call it.
That was a pick...??  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 11:13 pm : link
For crissakes that's nothing compared to what the Chiefs do week in and week out...
Are we surprised that Jerome Booger's crew  
Mr. Bungle : 9/12/2019 11:16 pm : link
is inept?
RE: That was a pick...??  
ChaChing : 9/12/2019 11:17 pm : link
In comment 14573512 bw in dc said:
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For crissakes that's nothing compared to what the Chiefs do week in and week out...

Yeah it's been a long time they've done a shit job of being consistent w/ that call. Whether it's team bias or not, it's amazing how some are literally blocks or intentional wipe outs on a defender w/ no call, then they call THAT
good lord -  
Del Shofner : 9/12/2019 11:19 pm : link
Kuechly is a great player
Panthers need to feed McCaffret here.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 11:24 pm : link
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RE: RE: That was a pick...??  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 11:24 pm : link
In comment 14573517 ChaChing said:
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Yeah it's been a long time they've done a shit job of being consistent w/ that call. Whether it's team bias or not, it's amazing how some are literally blocks or intentional wipe outs on a defender w/ no call, then they call THAT


Totally convinced Clemson beat Alabama in 2017 to win the NC with an absolutely blatant pick play on the last play of the game. If that's called, I think that game is likely over and Bama wins...
Vita Vea looks really good.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 11:26 pm : link
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Awful  
bradshaw44 : 9/12/2019 11:26 pm : link
Play call.
this  
AndyMilligan : 9/12/2019 11:26 pm : link
Tampa Defense looks pretty good
Either Cam...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 11:28 pm : link
can't get the OL to adjust or the OL is blind.

Well Tampa is selling out against CMC but Cam sucks.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 11:28 pm : link
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Its 0 man coverage Cam has to make the throw.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 11:29 pm : link
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if  
AndyMilligan : 9/12/2019 11:29 pm : link
Barber can't pick up the tackler, why is he playing so much..
Nice blitz pick up...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 11:29 pm : link
by Barber.
Cam is terrible.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 11:31 pm : link
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RE: Nice blitz pick up...  
AndyMilligan : 9/12/2019 11:33 pm : link
In comment 14573531 bw in dc said:
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by Barber.

comical, why is he playing more than Rojo?
Newton...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 11:33 pm : link
just has dreadful mechanics.
RE: Cam is terrible.  
AndyMilligan : 9/12/2019 11:34 pm : link
In comment 14573533 Zeke's Alibi said:
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He's inconsistent. he is terrible right now. The passing offense also looks like garbage. predictable and creative.
RE: RE: Cam is terrible.  
AndyMilligan : 9/12/2019 11:35 pm : link
In comment 14573537 AndyMilligan said:
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He's inconsistent. he is terrible right now. The passing offense also looks like garbage. predictable and creative.


*uncreative
Samuel needs to make that catch...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 11:35 pm : link
Newton could have thrown a better ball but that's catchable...
Serious Question  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/12/2019 11:36 pm : link
Rotator cuff surgery for a baseball pitcher is nearly always the end of his career. Is it different for a QB? Is the throwing motion different enough so that rotator cuff surgery doesn’t significantly weaken the shoulder?
What a dogshit performance  
Mr. Bungle : 9/12/2019 11:36 pm : link
from Cam.
Good vision by Barber...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 11:38 pm : link
How about the blocks by Jensen and Cappa?
There isn't anything wrong with the offense....Cam is leaving a  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 11:38 pm : link
Million throws out on the field.
RE: What a dogshit performance  
AndyMilligan : 9/12/2019 11:38 pm : link
In comment 14573541 Mr. Bungle said:
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from Cam.

he hasn't been right since his injury. But he always had inconsistent accuracy.
Talented corp of receivers for the Bucs...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 11:39 pm : link
I think this team could be good come December.
Peyton Barber is such a grinder  
ChaChing : 9/12/2019 11:42 pm : link
Feels like he'll get less yards w/ big holes
Odd play selection on 3rd and 5...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 11:43 pm : link
How about something underneath....a much easier throw...
100%  
dslayton86 : 9/12/2019 11:44 pm : link
rooting for TB to close out this win, knock out a win before we go there next week
RE: Odd play selection on 3rd and 5...  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 11:45 pm : link
In comment 14573553 bw in dc said:
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How about something underneath....a much easier throw...


Evans is a beast....its either incomplete or game over.
That completed ball to Aamuel was garbage, left a lot of yards on the  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 11:46 pm : link
field.
RE: Talented corp of receivers for the Bucs...  
AndyMilligan : 9/12/2019 11:46 pm : link
In comment 14573547 bw in dc said:
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I think this team could be good come December.

problem is they have no QB, that's kinda important.
The ball wasn't in the air when he was interfere with.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 11:48 pm : link
Whats the point of having this if they don't overturn
I'm okay...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 11:50 pm : link
with that call.

Expect a make up in a call or two...
RE: I'm okay...  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 11:50 pm : link
In comment 14573561 bw in dc said:
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with that call.

Expect a make up in a call or two...


I think that is what they are going to do.
holy crap...  
BillKo : 9/12/2019 11:50 pm : link
now we have to see if the ball is out of the QBs hand to call/challenge PI?

And they need the split screen?

Jesus, this is why bringing PI into the challenge arena was a horrid idea.

Just look at this call. I say it's PI. You don't. It's micro managing the game even more.
RE: RE: Talented corp of receivers for the Bucs...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 11:51 pm : link
In comment 14573559 AndyMilligan said:
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In comment 14573547 bw in dc said:


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I think this team could be good come December.


problem is they have no QB, that's kinda important.


I wouldn't count Winston out yet. Not my cup of tea but there are some plus tools there...
Winston played well for him tonight  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 11:53 pm : link
PrE Arians this had multiple pick game written all over it. I'm glad he didn't light it up tonight, ill be able to re pick him up in fantasy.
Was that re-spot a makeup call  
ChaChing : 9/12/2019 11:54 pm : link
spots it behind the line (almost clearly was how he was tackled & where the ball was), then on centering to the other ref it's blatantly moved a ball's length+ fwd
RE: RE: RE: Talented corp of receivers for the Bucs...  
AndyMilligan : 9/12/2019 11:55 pm : link
In comment 14573564 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14573559 AndyMilligan said:


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In comment 14573547 bw in dc said:


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I think this team could be good come December.


problem is they have no QB, that's kinda important.



I wouldn't count Winston out yet. Not my cup of tea but there are some plus tools there...

I am kind of done with him. He seems to have too many problems including he does not seem coach-able.
I think Arians didn't challenge because that would have given them a f  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 11:56 pm : link
Free time stoppage.
Okay...he stuck his hand in the face mask...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 11:57 pm : link
It's not like he grabbed it and yanked.
Arians Saying what we are all thinking  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2019 11:58 pm : link
what the fucknis going on
RE: I think Arians didn't challenge because that would have given them a f  
ChaChing : 9/12/2019 11:58 pm : link
In comment 14573570 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Free time stoppage.

Is that right? Wasn't it just b4 the 2 min? They showed Arians pull the red flag but refs said something to him and it got pocketed. They said b/c it was inside 2 min, but i'm not sure if that was right
I feel like I'm watching the final...  
bw in dc : 9/12/2019 11:59 pm : link
minute on an NBA game.

"How to Kill a Once Great Product"

-- by the NFL Rules Committee
this  
AndyMilligan : 9/12/2019 11:59 pm : link
seems like too many review stoppages.
Refs are winning the game  
ChaChing : 9/13/2019 12:01 am : link
right now
I feel like I should have watched...  
bw in dc : 9/13/2019 12:01 am : link
the other dumpster fire instead - the Democratic Debate. ;)
RE: RE: I think Arians didn't challenge because that would have given them a f  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/13/2019 12:01 am : link
In comment 14573573 ChaChing said:
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In comment 14573570 Zeke's Alibi said:


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Free time stoppage.


Is that right? Wasn't it just b4 the 2 min? They showed Arians pull the red flag but refs said something to him and it got pocketed. They said b/c it was inside 2 min, but i'm not sure if that was right


Yeh it was before but i don't think the clock starts regardless.


Jesus cam
Cam or Olson...  
bw in dc : 9/13/2019 12:03 am : link
here?
Wow  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/13/2019 12:05 am : link
.
Wow this should be exciting but is incredibly boring  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/13/2019 12:05 am : link
.
That was a great...  
bw in dc : 9/13/2019 12:05 am : link
f-ckin play by the D.
Wow, what a play  
jcn56 : 9/13/2019 12:06 am : link
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RE: That was a great...  
AndyMilligan : 9/13/2019 12:07 am : link
In comment 14573586 bw in dc said:
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f-ckin play by the D.

indeed...
One of the dumbest play calls  
bradshaw44 : 9/13/2019 12:07 am : link
I’ve ever see. Cam can’t lean forward?!
The NFL is lost...  
bw in dc : 9/13/2019 12:07 am : link
...
great D play  
ChaChing : 9/13/2019 12:07 am : link
but a crazy shit on the goaline when Cam leaning fwd, or just giving it to CMC moving fwd vs sideways is likely better & easier

still looks like he's short as they said
This game is a clusterfuck  
Jim in Forest Hills : 9/13/2019 12:07 am : link
Of bad coaching, bad officiating and bad replay.
What a pathetic play call.  
Mr. Bungle : 9/13/2019 12:07 am : link
Maybe Norv Turner can move onto his 11th team...
I loved the direct snap, but why not just let McCaffrey choose a hole  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/13/2019 12:07 am : link
.
I feel...  
bw in dc : 9/13/2019 12:08 am : link
a Rifleman like fumble by Winston... ;)
Everyone saying just go forward....the Bucs were living in the Panther  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/13/2019 12:08 am : link
backfield tonight.
The Cam watch is on...  
bw in dc : 9/13/2019 12:10 am : link
He's a shell of his former self...
They no longer have trust in Cam to  
rnargi : 9/13/2019 12:10 am : link
get 18 inches. Incredible.
RE: The Cam watch is on...  
AndyMilligan : 9/13/2019 12:11 am : link
In comment 14573600 bw in dc said:
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He's a shell of his former self...

he gets a whole season to figure it out.. but maybe..
Good news for Panthers, cams contract is up next year  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/13/2019 12:11 am : link
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They drafted Will Grier for a reason,  
Mr. Bungle : 9/13/2019 12:13 am : link
apparently.
RE: Everyone saying just go forward....the Bucs were living in the Panther  
ChaChing : 9/13/2019 12:15 am : link
In comment 14573598 Zeke's Alibi said:
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backfield tonight.

It wasn't an easy call, but if that's the case running sideways is the worst idea IMO

I'm w/ you on the direct snap and let him choose, but that's STILL go fwd more than directly sideways

It's a bit hindsight no doubt but IMO it's like going deep on 3rd & 2. You can, it might work, yet most times an underneath play for 2yds is more often the right call (as often as teams don't)
It happens, but still someone should tell Steve Smith  
ChaChing : 9/13/2019 12:17 am : link
"trickeration" is not a word

Like stratgery. Or symbology
Cam is completely cooked  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/13/2019 12:17 am : link
You gotta love all the preseason hype how he's a top 5 QB because he's healthy now. He has bad accuracy and zero touch.

He's been average at best since the SB year.

He should switch to RB.
I watched the debate  
Sneakers O'toole : 9/13/2019 12:23 am : link
and then switched over to the game after it was done. Somehow the game was more boring.

Great product there NFL. Love what you're doing to the sport.
Completely disagree  
jvm52106 : 9/13/2019 12:23 am : link
with the notion you dont go forward etc.. Cam is 6'4" and 240 ish. All he has to do is get to the line and quick snap a dive down or dive over. Its half a yard..

That trick play 100% relies on frint side defender to give up responsibility and chase the motion man. If he doesnt the play is fucked..

Yes, Newton is done. He made some throws but was complete dogshit on so many others..

Olsen is amazing after all these years and injuries..
ChaChing....that play would have made more sense if they needed  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/13/2019 12:29 am : link
the TD, he gets the corner he is going to score. He'd get second guessed to death tomorrow but the story is going to be Cam. Wouldn't be surprised to see another early QB retirement soon.
RE: It happens, but still someone should tell Steve Smith  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/13/2019 12:30 am : link
In comment 14573608 ChaChing said:
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"trickeration" is not a word

Like stratgery. Or symbology


Trickeration is definitely part of the vernacular now. Expect it to be in Merriam Websters soon.
I'll fight anyone  
Sneakers O'toole : 9/13/2019 12:32 am : link
that says strategery is not a word.
Who’s a better QB right now?  
bw in dc : 9/13/2019 12:35 am : link
Cam or Eli?
RE: Who’s a better QB right now?  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/13/2019 12:40 am : link
In comment 14573617 bw in dc said:
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Cam or Eli?


Honestly thought the same thing watching the game.
Cam didn’t look like a D-1A QB  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/13/2019 12:43 am : link
Let alone an NFL QB.
RE: RE: Who’s a better QB right now?  
bw in dc : 9/13/2019 12:48 am : link
In comment 14573620 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Honestly thought the same thing watching the game.


Eli can’t move and Cam can’t throw...

Take the thrower.
How do you only throw the ball twice  
montanagiant : 9/13/2019 1:44 am : link
To McCaffrey?

RE: The Cam watch is on...  
allstarjim : 9/13/2019 2:03 am : link
In comment 14573600 bw in dc said:
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He's a shell of his former self...


If you saw his postgame presser outfit, you might say "She's a hell of his former self."
RE: RE: The Cam watch is on...  
Les in TO : 9/13/2019 5:54 am : link
In comment 14573636 allstarjim said:
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He's a shell of his former self...



If you saw his postgame presser outfit, you might say "She's a hell of his former self."
he looked like a mashup of my great grandmother stepping off the boat from Poland in the early 1900s crossed with a sad Vegas lounge singer
His should/arm is freaking shot!!!  
nzyme : 9/13/2019 7:29 am : link
Last night was the first time in probably a year since I've actually watched Cam Newton play. It was a stark difference from the player I watched since then.

I'm not sure what the injury was to his should but it's not the same and I think he's done. If Carolina is in the top 10 this year I wouldn't be surprised, luck willing, if they traded into the top 3 for a QB.
RE: RE: Everyone saying just go forward....the Bucs were living in the Panther  
RickInCharlotte : 9/13/2019 7:38 am : link
In comment 14573607 ChaChing said:
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In comment 14573598 Zeke's Alibi said:


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backfield tonight.


It wasn't an easy call, but if that's the case running sideways is the worst idea IMO

I'm w/ you on the direct snap and let him choose, but that's STILL go fwd more than directly sideways

It's a bit hindsight no doubt but IMO it's like going deep on 3rd & 2. You can, it might work, yet most times an underneath play for 2yds is more often the right call (as often as teams don't)


TB's defensive game plan is exactly how teams will attack the Giants. Stuff the middle, blitz, blitz, blitz and stay in man to man coverage. Let the TE beat you. The Giants don't have a vertical threat which is even more challenging. CAR kept CMC in the backfield to pick up the blitz and it effectively took him out of the game. I expect BUF to do the same and TB to replicate the strategy next week. An immobile Cam Newton sure looks like Eli, although Eli is more accurate and has a better O-Line. Can Shurmur game plan better than Norv Turner?
Charlie Weiss on Sirius  
jvm52106 : 9/13/2019 8:17 am : link
just now saod " I don't care what they say or anyone says, Newton isnt healthy, he isnt right. Some of those throws look like he just pushing the ball out there. He isnt right and it doesnt take a brain surgeon to see that"!
RE: Charlie Weiss on Sirius  
GmanND : 9/13/2019 9:14 am : link
In comment 14573725 jvm52106 said:
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just now saod " I don't care what they say or anyone says, Newton isnt healthy, he isnt right. Some of those throws look like he just pushing the ball out there. He isnt right and it doesnt take a brain shoulder surgeon to see that"!
If we loses  
nygnyy274 : 9/13/2019 3:39 pm : link
Sunday we could start 0-3 again. The Bucs have a good defense
RE: RE: The Cam watch is on...  
bw in dc : 9/13/2019 4:36 pm : link
In comment 14573636 allstarjim said:
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He's a shell of his former self...



If you saw his postgame presser outfit, you might say "She's a hell of his former self."



It was quite the contrast at last night's press conference with Cam looking like Boy George but acting very serious and disappointed in his play. How can anyone take him seriously as the leader?
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