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GP : 9/13/2019 7:39 am
This light-hearted question may seem simple at first, yet it has layers.

As a society, we're trained to love cake from an early age. Happy 1st Birthday, dive into this whole cake just for you! And we repeat the process with the first-cut slice for all birthdays to come. However, I maintain that this is incorrect, and that pie should be America's, nay, Earth's, favorite dessert. Why? Versatility in texture, form, food groups and temperature. Consistency. Adaptability.

Chocolate Pudding Pie
Apple Pie
Dutch Apple Pie
Coconut Cream Pie
Key Lime Pie
Pumpkin Pie
Banana Cream Pie
Pecan Pie
Chocolate Peanut Butter Pie

... the list goes on, and it gets even more versatile from there. Welcome to the savory side of pie -

Pizza Pie
Shepherd's Pie
Quiche is pretty much an egg pie
Easter Pie
Chicken Pot Pie

Granted, cake is no slouch. There are some interesting things done with cake.

Lava Cake
Carrot Cake
Tiramisu
Ice Cream Cake (those crunchy bits are amazing)

All great choices. However, the ultimate cake - Cheesecake - is really just a form of pie when you think about it. This is like people who say they prefer cats over dogs because they have a great cat who acts just like a dog. It's an outlier. A misnomer. Cheesecake is pie.

The cherry on top - the average diner slice of pie is going to be consistently better than the average diner piece of cake. How many times have you had cake that tasted like dried-out, boxed nonsense? Pie is friendlier, too. It gets along well with others. Give me a slice of pie with a scoop of vanilla bean ice cream and a cup of good coffee and I'm all set for the evening. You cake fans can have your over-iced sponge with a bubbling Pepsi at the toddler's table.

Pie wins.

What say you?
You ever have a slice of birthday pie?  
jcn56 : 9/13/2019 7:49 am : link
For good reason.
Pie  
UConn4523 : 9/13/2019 7:52 am : link
no question for me. I like cake, but very few are made well, and far too often there’s too much icing, or it’s dry.
You Lost Me When You Included...  
Jim in Tampa : 9/13/2019 8:00 am : link
Pizza Pie, Shepherd's Pie and Chicken Pot Pie.

If the question was "Pie or Cake?" it should have been a dessert-to-dessert comparison.

Once you add a "ringer" like pizza to the pie team, cake doesn't stand a chance.

Ice Cream  
Chris684 : 9/13/2019 8:05 am : link
then pie..

Pie with ice cream even better.
We have debated this before  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 9/13/2019 8:08 am : link
Pie for the win.
Ice Cream Cake  
johnnyb : 9/13/2019 8:16 am : link
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Boston Cream Pie...  
BamaBlue : 9/13/2019 8:28 am : link
or warm Dutch Apple Pie with a scoop of vanilla ice cream on top all day long.
Give me black forest cake and/or pecan pie (both with ice cream)  
Ira : 9/13/2019 8:31 am : link
and I'll be happy.
RE: You ever have a slice of birthday pie?  
Burtman : 9/13/2019 8:31 am : link
In comment 14573694 jcn56 said:
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For good reason.


Yes! Every year. I have two pies on my birthday every single year. Occasionally someone will show up with a cake but my wife knows. Pie, pie and more pie.
No bride wants a wedding pie  
ATL_Giants : 9/13/2019 8:53 am : link
Cake is king.
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GP : 9/13/2019 9:23 am : link
In comment 14573784 ATL_Giants said:
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RE: No bride wants a wedding pie. Cake is king.


You're aligning your argument to the rationality of the average bride. You've already lost.
Pie by a mile  
Pork Chop : 9/13/2019 9:34 am : link
I've actually demanded birthday pie for the last 10 years.

would take blueberry pie over any cake any day...  
GMAN4LIFE : 9/13/2019 9:39 am : link
but Canolis are king
Cake, hands down  
Model4001 : 9/13/2019 9:50 am : link

This is my absolute favorite dessert: yellow cake with chocolate icing (real buttercream, not that shit from a jar)...

I could eat this for breakfast lunch and dinner.
If we're going off the board with canoli...  
x meadowlander : 9/13/2019 9:51 am : link
...I submit the Sfinge' di Santo Giuseppe.

In one of my other lives, I delivered Biazzo cheese in North Jersey. Yeah, I was the fuckin' CHEESE guy.

One morning, I pull up to D'annas pastry shop in Lodi, load up a stack of cases of bulk ricattone (ricotta) and open the side door.

The old man is sitting on a stool wearing an apron, scooping whipped custard with a large spoon into the largest cream puff I ever saw.

What's THAT? I ask.

It's a Sfinge... - he sees the perplexed look on my face - you've never had one, have you?

"Here, they're best when they're fresh" - hands me the one he just finished.

Holy shit - one of the best things I ever tasted.

For years, my parents would stop there AND at Sorrento bakery in Lodi, bring boxes of Sfinge and Cannoli.

I don't miss much about Jersey, but I DEFINITELY miss the pastry shops.
RE: Pie  
Eli Wilson : 9/13/2019 10:11 am : link
In comment 14573701 UConn4523 said:
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no question for me. I like cake, but very few are made well, and far too often there’s too much icing, or it’s dry.


+1 - too many unknowns with cake.
RE: If we're going off the board with canoli...  
ATL_Giants : 9/13/2019 11:25 am : link
In comment 14573860 x meadowlander said:
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...I submit the Sfinge' di Santo Giuseppe.

I don't miss much about Jersey, but I DEFINITELY miss the pastry shops.

St Joseph Day donuts. I could not agree more.
Excellent post.
Food porn  
pjcas18 : 9/13/2019 11:31 am : link
is my top 2 types of porn and this thread need more food porn.

best pie:
Italian Bomb from Modern Apizza in New Haven:


best cake (I'm not a huge sweets guy so this is just my opinion):
Fudgie the Whale from Carvel (are they sill around?)


best dessert pie:

black out cake  
AndyMilligan : 9/13/2019 11:35 am : link
there is no pie as good as a well made blackout cake
I'll have my cake  
Bill in UT : 9/13/2019 11:56 am : link
and eat it, too
there's nothing like a classic Apple Pie  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/13/2019 11:59 am : link
but this is like the Chicago Deep Dish vs. New York Style pizza debate. These are two very different foods despite how similar they may seem.
nothing can top a great slice of  
UConn4523 : 9/13/2019 12:08 pm : link
Pecan Pie paired with a couple (few) fingers of good Bourbon.
reading this thread stoned is a very bad idea  
gtt350 : 9/13/2019 12:12 pm : link
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I was all set to be team pie  
allstarjim : 9/13/2019 12:50 pm : link
But OP, you've convinced me. TEAM PIE!

And GTFOH with the cannoli stuff.

Cannoli is like the side piece with a butterface and a headcase but you keep her around and throw her a bone once in awhile because she's willing to do some freaky stuff

Pie is the main, she's the girl you're gonna marry and spend your holidays with and have kids with and grow old together.
Crab Cake  
smshmth8690 : 9/13/2019 2:04 pm : link
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I like pies better.  
Bill L : 9/13/2019 2:50 pm : link
Anything where you can use lard is going to be my favorite.

n the whole, I feel like there's more breadth to pies but there's more depth (creativity) in cakes.
Cake  
Jimmy Googs : 9/13/2019 3:27 pm : link
The only pies I enjoy are pumpkin but only for holidays and key-lime (anytime but has to be super cold).

Cooked fruit pies are way to sweet which make the kind of gross...
Cake or Pie lovers can find common ground...  
BamaBlue : 9/13/2019 3:43 pm : link
in great donuts. If you're ever in Portland, Maine and you remotely 'like' donuts, you have to visit "the Holy Donut" (there are actually 2 of them in Portland and one is Scarborough). They are hand-made, large donuts made with potatoes in the dough.

I'm sure some on BBI have tried them...
Red velvet or carrot are the only cakes I like  
moespree : 9/13/2019 3:59 pm : link
While I like a lot more pies than that.

Interestingly though, not that big on apple pie.
Brutus The Barber Beefcake  
GiantSteps : 9/13/2019 4:23 pm : link
for the win
Truth be told I think donuts own them both.  
GiantSteps : 9/13/2019 4:28 pm : link
With donuts it's like you can have one or two or twelve different kinds of cake in one sitting, and only feel a fraction of the crushing shame and self loathing you'd feel if you ate one or two or twelve entire cakes in one sitting.
Key Lime Pie ....  
short lease : 9/14/2019 2:51 am : link

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This is one of those questions where I respect all opinions  
mfsd : 9/14/2019 5:57 am : link
as long as you choose pie
I instinctively thought cake  
Chocco : 9/14/2019 9:16 am : link
But almost every time I eat a piece of cake I am underwhelmed but usually when I eat pie I am pleasantly surprised. It could be I have higher standards for cake and lower for pie I don't know, but I have to go with Team Pie
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