What happens to other students, or to the university as a whole, shouldn't be their problem. The school pays an army of administrators - including the AD - to deal with those wider issues. If compensating the athletes beyond scholarships - or allowing them to collect additional endorsement money - will adversely affect the school, they can factor those risks into their negotiating position. That's their job, not the athletes'.
I've said it before but there needs to be a minor league option Â
This is what the next pro league should be. Bring in 8 teams, NFL coaches, eligible to play 18-22 and pay a roster flat 100-200k a year. How many of these top recruits would flock to a situation like that. Put it on Tuesday Wednesday nights. People would watch that and I'm sure you could pillage a ton of top recruits. It would be like watching Bama/Clemson every week.
and get a salary? What happens when they are hurt the year? Do they get long term disability and is that capped? Are they subjected to the same labor laws as everyone else?
I just don’t see it working, at least not yet. There’s so many other issues that can arise.
You clearly understand the complexity. My original point was simply that Tebow doesn't - or if he does, that the rah-rah case he's making on TV has very little connection to the underlying challenges.
More progressive like me that players should be paid or if you still prefer no non-scholarship compensation, I think we should all agree that the current system is flawed and needs further study for adjustments.
I see where Tebow is coming from and thats kind of right.
but also, these kids are getting used to make money for their school.
Me too. I see both sides. a) colleges are making millions off a particular athlete and that guy gets no $. b) The college provides a tuition free program for many athletes that don't pay a dime for college and will never make $ for the college.
RE: I've said it before but there needs to be a minor league option Â
This is what the next pro league should be. Bring in 8 teams, NFL coaches, eligible to play 18-22 and pay a roster flat 100-200k a year. How many of these top recruits would flock to a situation like that. Put it on Tuesday Wednesday nights. People would watch that and I'm sure you could pillage a ton of top recruits. It would be like watching Bama/Clemson every week.
The NFL doesn't want to jeopardize their good relationship with the NCAA. They want cooperation from coaches, access to campus for scouts, etc. If they start poaching top prospects from the major programs, that's going to go away for a while, maybe permanently.
A minor league is a better idea than the current system where the schools rake in millions and the players get no legal cash compensation and in fact are prohibited from even having an on-campus job. It's a broken system that invites cheating. But I think the NFL is going to be super cautious about that. I think the XFL is going to function as a minor league at first but it won't address the need for a place for 18-22 year-olds to develop.
Tebow's parents were missionaries. Probably most people here have never known any missionaries. I happen to know some and not a single one of them would be considered anything close to wealthy (they didn't pursue that calling for the money).
The Tebow family raised 5 kids on a salary that no one here would brag about.
I just don't know why I keep seeing that Tebow had a "privileged background".
Oh please they lived in a big house with a huge plot of land in Duval County. This was before he went to the NFL. You can have family money, you realize that. Every interview with him done at his parents house in college, it was nice. It is probably why he has the attitude he has. Christ Provides.
you act like Duval County is the Hamptons or something. Duval County is where Jacksonville is (not very high median household income). Using it as evidence that he had a privileged background is silly. Do you have a picture of this "big house with a huge plot of land"?
Even if it was a "huge plot of land", depending on location it might not have been very expensive. Real estate in NE FL is a fraction of what it is in NY/NJ/CT, especially in the western parts of the counties and probably even more so when his parents moved there.
Also, a family like his that probably lived very modestly; probably didn't spend a penny on things like alcohol, going out to dinner a lot, expensive vacations, etc., could probably afford a nicer home than many on the same modest income.
But if you have a hardon for Tebow, don't let me stop you.
I just don’t see it working, at least not yet. There’s so many other issues that can arise.
but also, these kids are getting used to make money for their school.
Me too. I see both sides. a) colleges are making millions off a particular athlete and that guy gets no $. b) The college provides a tuition free program for many athletes that don't pay a dime for college and will never make $ for the college.
A minor league is a better idea than the current system where the schools rake in millions and the players get no legal cash compensation and in fact are prohibited from even having an on-campus job. It's a broken system that invites cheating. But I think the NFL is going to be super cautious about that. I think the XFL is going to function as a minor league at first but it won't address the need for a place for 18-22 year-olds to develop.
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"privileged background"?
Tebow's parents were missionaries. Probably most people here have never known any missionaries. I happen to know some and not a single one of them would be considered anything close to wealthy (they didn't pursue that calling for the money).
The Tebow family raised 5 kids on a salary that no one here would brag about.
I just don't know why I keep seeing that Tebow had a "privileged background".
Oh please they lived in a big house with a huge plot of land in Duval County. This was before he went to the NFL. You can have family money, you realize that. Every interview with him done at his parents house in college, it was nice. It is probably why he has the attitude he has. Christ Provides.
you act like Duval County is the Hamptons or something. Duval County is where Jacksonville is (not very high median household income). Using it as evidence that he had a privileged background is silly. Do you have a picture of this "big house with a huge plot of land"?
Even if it was a "huge plot of land", depending on location it might not have been very expensive. Real estate in NE FL is a fraction of what it is in NY/NJ/CT, especially in the western parts of the counties and probably even more so when his parents moved there.
Also, a family like his that probably lived very modestly; probably didn't spend a penny on things like alcohol, going out to dinner a lot, expensive vacations, etc., could probably afford a nicer home than many on the same modest income.
But if you have a hardon for Tebow, don't let me stop you.