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Kawika Mitchell

RicFlair : 9/13/2019 9:38 pm
Remember that guy? Nice one year player here.
Another great FA pick up  
bradshaw44 : 9/13/2019 9:48 pm : link
By the old regime before their heads got too big and they thought anyone they chose was the best.
That fake drop into pass coverage  
bradshaw44 : 9/13/2019 9:49 pm : link
And rush to sack Brady in 42 was a thing of beauty. Mitchell and Pierce. I would kill for two LBs like that again.
If you recall  
Matt in SGS : 9/13/2019 9:54 pm : link
the Giants actually traded for a former Pro Bowl LB, Al Wilson, from the Broncos. Wilson failed his physical with a neck injury, which ultimately killed the trade and sent Wilson back to the Broncos. The Giants signed Mitchell as a result and it all worked out better.

Fun fact, Wilson would sue the Broncos for the money that the Giants had planned to pay him in an extension for misdiagnosing the severity of his neck injury. The lawsuit would eventually get dismissed.
He made a few very big plays that SB year  
SomeFan : 9/13/2019 9:58 pm : link
including the pick 6 in Buffalo.
Sad to think,  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/13/2019 10:23 pm : link
but we haven't had a LB as good as him since.
Mitchell  
lono801 : 9/13/2019 10:25 pm : link
For me...not bringing back Mitchell was the start of Reeses downfall...

It was the start of bad decisions on his part IMO

Ground Zero for 'Im The Smartest Guy in the Room'


Not making this a Reese bashing thread...just how I felt at the time...and still do
RE: If you recall  
McNally's_Nuts : 9/13/2019 10:46 pm : link
In comment 14574653 Matt in SGS said:
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the Giants actually traded for a former Pro Bowl LB, Al Wilson, from the Broncos. Wilson failed his physical with a neck injury, which ultimately killed the trade and sent Wilson back to the Broncos. The Giants signed Mitchell as a result and it all worked out better.

Fun fact, Wilson would sue the Broncos for the money that the Giants had planned to pay him in an extension for misdiagnosing the severity of his neck injury. The lawsuit would eventually get dismissed.


And wasnít the player going to Denver a certain DL named Justin Tuck?
wasn't gettleman  
japanhead : 9/13/2019 10:46 pm : link
director of pro personnel when mitchell was brought in?
RE: Mitchell  
McNally's_Nuts : 9/13/2019 10:49 pm : link
In comment 14574671 lono801 said:
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For me...not bringing back Mitchell was the start of Reeses downfall...

It was the start of bad decisions on his part IMO

Ground Zero for 'Im The Smartest Guy in the Room'


Not making this a Reese bashing thread...just how I felt at the time...and still do


He didnít do much in Buffalo.

Plus, they signed Danny Clark to do the same thing
...  
christian : 9/13/2019 11:15 pm : link
Mitchell was lightening in a bottle that year, and then signed a pretty big deal with Buffalo for the time. The Giants defense didn't skip a beat with Danny Clark the next year, and Mitchell had an up and down tenure with the Bills.

I believe it was the poster Yankees28 who was a big proponent of Mitchell when he was UFA in KC.
He had a big tackle at the goal line  
St. Jimmy : 9/13/2019 11:18 pm : link
in Washington on the second to last play of the game in week 3. Decided to go and watch the highlights. Memories.
Link - ( New Window )
He was a workout warrior who lacked field instincts  
Vanzetti : 9/13/2019 11:38 pm : link
Thatís why he never had much of s career despite his size:speed package

But he just clicked with the Giants defense
Mitchell ...  
Manny in CA : 9/13/2019 11:41 pm : link

Same year - One of the two best plays I've seen a Giants player accomplish ...

Against the Eagles. Sacks the QB, as the ball is bouncing off the ground, does baseball slide ...

Hops up with the ball and runs for a TD.

In the Super Bowl, played the best game of his life. Then he went to "Siberia" (the Bills) for the $$$, end-of-story.


RE: He had a big tackle at the goal line  
Dave in PA : 9/13/2019 11:42 pm : link
In comment 14574705 St. Jimmy said:
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in Washington on the second to last play of the game in week 3. Decided to go and watch the highlights. Memories. Link - ( New Window )
Plax was a freak. Not quite Randy Moss level athleticism, but not that far away.
How man other ex Giants ...  
Manny in CA : 9/14/2019 12:34 am : link

"Ran off" for the money and regretted it (Jacobs, Manningham) etc.
I don't think the phrase ''didn't skip a beat with Danny Clark''  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/14/2019 1:18 am : link
... has ever been used in the history of the universe before so thanks for that.


RE: wasn't gettleman  
Emlen'sGremlins : 9/14/2019 2:19 am : link
In comment 14574687 japanhead said:
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director of pro personnel when mitchell was brought in?


Uh huh. Seems to be glossed over in this post though.
RE: He had a big tackle at the goal line  
short lease : 9/14/2019 2:45 am : link
In comment 14574705 St. Jimmy said:
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in Washington on the second to last play of the game in week 3. Decided to go and watch the highlights. Memories. Link - ( New Window )


That was the play I was thinking of .... if he doesn't make that play we start out 0-3 instead 1-2.

Single-handedly turned the season around for us.


Of course I am kidding but, that was a clutch play when we needed it.
RE: I don't think the phrase ''didn't skip a beat with Danny Clark''  
TommyWiseau : 9/14/2019 3:12 am : link
In comment 14574733 sb from NYT Forum said:
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... has ever been used in the history of the universe before so thanks for that.



Clark was almost as bad as Barrett Green
RE: He had a big tackle at the goal line  
JohnB : 9/14/2019 4:32 am : link
In comment 14574705 St. Jimmy said:
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in Washington on the second to last play of the game in week 3. Decided to go and watch the highlights. Memories. Link - ( New Window )


During that goal line stand, Washington's big time running back, Clinton Portis was on the sideline. Can you IMAGINE not using your star running back in a big spot.....

Oh wait.... skip that one.
Don t think it s  
joeinpa : 9/14/2019 5:48 am : link
A coincidence that Giants defense looks pretty much the same year after year. Giants last regime did not value this position and left the cupboard bare
RE: Don t think it s  
Allen in CNJ : 9/14/2019 6:45 am : link
In comment 14574745 joeinpa said:
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A coincidence that Giants defense looks pretty much the same year after year. Giants last regime did not value this position and left the cupboard bare


Maybe some of us don't remember how poor that defense looked in weeks 1 & 2 in 2007...
RE: RE: If you recall  
Matt in SGS : 9/14/2019 7:38 am : link
In comment 14574686 McNally's_Nuts said:
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the Giants actually traded for a former Pro Bowl LB, Al Wilson, from the Broncos. Wilson failed his physical with a neck injury, which ultimately killed the trade and sent Wilson back to the Broncos. The Giants signed Mitchell as a result and it all worked out better.

Fun fact, Wilson would sue the Broncos for the money that the Giants had planned to pay him in an extension for misdiagnosing the severity of his neck injury. The lawsuit would eventually get dismissed.



And wasnít the player going to Denver a certain DL named Justin Tuck?


Tuck wasn't part of that trade. It was for a draft pick (I think a 3rd). You might be thinking of the Eli trade when the Chargers wanted Osi, but Accorsi wouldn't budge.
RE: RE: I don't think the phrase ''didn't skip a beat with Danny Clark''  
BillT : 9/14/2019 7:39 am : link
In comment 14574742 TommyWiseau said:
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... has ever been used in the history of the universe before so thanks for that.





Clark was almost as bad as Barrett Green

Wasn't Green the LB that got hurt in like his first game and never played again.
RE: How man other ex Giants ...  
Hammer : 9/14/2019 7:53 am : link
In comment 14574729 Manny in CA said:
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"Ran off" for the money and regretted it (Jacobs, Manningham) etc.


You don't know if they regretted it.

It is quite possible that the money they "ran off" for set them, and their families, up for life.
RE: RE: RE: I don't think the phrase ''didn't skip a beat with Danny Clark''  
Matt in SGS : 9/14/2019 7:56 am : link
In comment 14574760 BillT said:
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... has ever been used in the history of the universe before so thanks for that.





Clark was almost as bad as Barrett Green


Wasn't Green the LB that got hurt in like his first game and never played again.


He got hurt in the 2nd game vs. Washington returning a TD and was never the same.
Most important point here is that Reese found the draft picks in 2007  
Ivan15 : 9/14/2019 8:36 am : link
who contributed mostly in the playoffs and DG found the veterans who jelled the defense and kept everything together Through the season
RE: RE: RE: If you recall  
McNally's_Nuts : 9/14/2019 8:43 am : link
In comment 14574759 Matt in SGS said:
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In comment 14574653 Matt in SGS said:


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the Giants actually traded for a former Pro Bowl LB, Al Wilson, from the Broncos. Wilson failed his physical with a neck injury, which ultimately killed the trade and sent Wilson back to the Broncos. The Giants signed Mitchell as a result and it all worked out better.

Fun fact, Wilson would sue the Broncos for the money that the Giants had planned to pay him in an extension for misdiagnosing the severity of his neck injury. The lawsuit would eventually get dismissed.



And wasnít the player going to Denver a certain DL named Justin Tuck?



Tuck wasn't part of that trade. It was for a draft pick (I think a 3rd). You might be thinking of the Eli trade when the Chargers wanted Osi, but Accorsi wouldn't budge.


Are you sure? Could have sworn it was a player swap.

I googled this and it seems that Tuck was mentioned but it was unfounded
RE: How man other ex Giants ...  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/14/2019 9:31 am : link
In comment 14574729 Manny in CA said:
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"Ran off" for the money and regretted it (Jacobs, Manningham) etc.

In a shocking turn of events, Manny has no fucking idea what he's talking about... Jacobs signed a 1 yr, $1.575M deal with the 49ers after the Giants released him - hardly the type of contract that would qualify as "'ran off' for the money."
RE: Most important point here is that Reese found the draft picks in 2007  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/14/2019 9:32 am : link
In comment 14574772 Ivan15 said:
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who contributed mostly in the playoffs and DG found the veterans who jelled the defense and kept everything together Through the season

Ironically, DG has proven to be a savvy drafter in his two drafts here as GM, but his veteran free agent signings have been much more mediocre.
RE: If you recall  
Jay on the Island : 9/14/2019 10:45 am : link
In comment 14574653 Matt in SGS said:
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the Giants actually traded for a former Pro Bowl LB, Al Wilson, from the Broncos. Wilson failed his physical with a neck injury, which ultimately killed the trade and sent Wilson back to the Broncos. The Giants signed Mitchell as a result and it all worked out better.

Fun fact, Wilson would sue the Broncos for the money that the Giants had planned to pay him in an extension for misdiagnosing the severity of his neck injury. The lawsuit would eventually get dismissed.

What were they going to send Denver in that deal? Was it a 3rd round pick?
RE: RE: Most important point here is that Reese found the draft picks in 2007  
Jay on the Island : 9/14/2019 10:46 am : link
In comment 14574808 Gatorade Dunk said:
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who contributed mostly in the playoffs and DG found the veterans who jelled the defense and kept everything together Through the season


Ironically, DG has proven to be a savvy drafter in his two drafts here as GM, but his veteran free agent signings have been much more mediocre.

Absolutely, Ironically we were fearing the opposite when he was hired.
RE: I don't think the phrase ''didn't skip a beat with Danny Clark''  
christian : 9/14/2019 10:53 am : link
In comment 14574733 sb from NYT Forum said:
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... has ever been used in the history of the universe before so thanks for that.



I'm saying the Giants defense didn't suffer for Mitchell leaving. The 2008 Giants defense was demonstrably better than the 2007 Giants, even if the results weren't as good.
RE: RE: Most important point here is that Reese found the draft picks in 2007  
John In CO : 9/14/2019 11:46 am : link
In comment 14574808 Gatorade Dunk said:
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who contributed mostly in the playoffs and DG found the veterans who jelled the defense and kept everything together Through the season


Ironically, DG has proven to be a savvy drafter in his two drafts here as GM, but his veteran free agent signings have been much more mediocre.


Perhaps exploring the available pool of players beyond ex Panthers and ex Cardinals would help in that regard.
RE: How man other ex Giants ...  
djm : 9/14/2019 3:12 pm : link
In comment 14574729 Manny in CA said:
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"Ran off" for the money and regretted it (Jacobs, Manningham) etc.


No. Just... no.
RE: RE: Don t think it s  
joeinpa : 9/15/2019 6:24 am : link
In comment 14574751 Allen in CNJ said:
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A coincidence that Giants defense looks pretty much the same year after year. Giants last regime did not value this position and left the cupboard bare



Maybe some of us don't remember how poor that defense looked in weeks 1 & 2 in 2007...


I remember. But The Giants team of 05 and 06 had been decent so I remember still thinking Giants could be relevant at 0-2
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