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NFT: Knicks: Frank had very. high quality game in France loss.

manh george : 9/14/2019 2:36 am
It doesn't sound as if he is being coached all that well, but this on Posting and Toasting about his play in loss to Argentina.

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Ntilikina was actually the best player for France and had a barrage of great moves. Scoring for himself and creating chances for teammates, keeping a flicker of hope alive. Alas, his teammates elected to take solo voyages, leading to the whole expedition crew’s unceremonious demise.


This could get really interesting in the battle for the 2 spot. Dell has Barrett going to start at the 3 but I don't see it, with Knox and Morris at home there. Maybe if Knox goes back to sucking--but I don't expect him to.

We shall see how Knox shoots the 3, drives to the hoop, and rebounds.

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Ron Johnson : 9/14/2019 9:01 am : link
Those guys that think the Knicks didn’t have the answer to solo voyages already on the roster, well suffice it to say ....... they’ve been proven wrong
The ghost of phil jackson - let's see if he  
GiantsUA : 9/14/2019 9:12 am : link
do the same thing in North America.
It’s easy to forget  
Mattman : 9/14/2019 9:21 am : link
The kid is 21. I would hate it if the knicks took his growing pains and let him go when he starts to mature into a decent player.
Fools gold?  
PhilSimms15 : 9/14/2019 9:23 am : link
Frank had a number of issues during his first couple of seasons on the Knicks:

—lack of aggression on offense

—poor outside shot

—injury prone

The question now is, whether his FIBA experience is something that can be converted to the NBA or whether it will be shown to be fool’s gold.
my recollection is that RJ played more at the 3 than the 2  
Del Shofner : 9/14/2019 12:51 pm : link
in summer league but, yeah, may be different once the regular season comes around. As to Frank, I think he'll be played at both the 1 and the 2. It's going to be hard for Fiz to get down to a 10 man rotation though. It's a weird roster, no stars but OK depth.
Posting and Toasting have always been Frenchy cheerleaders  
Greg from LI : 9/14/2019 1:28 pm : link
Doesn't mean they're wrong in this instance, but it does make me skeptical.
Interesting post on SNY: 5 things that need to happen...  
manh george : 9/14/2019 2:58 pm : link
for Kicks season to be considered a success.

1) Second Year Players Kevin Knox And Mitchell Robinson Taking The Next Leap

2) Barrett shining'

3) Julius Randle Embraces The Number One Option. As they note, he will probably play very little 5 this year, with lots of traffic there.

4) Finding a long-term option at pg. As they note, the last Knicks point guard to hold the starting spot for consecutive seasons was Jose Calderon from 2014-16--and he was past his prime. The piece may be underestimating the uptick from Smith, who spent all summer working on the shot they say he doesn't have. If he has it now, that could be a very big deal.

5) Gaining Assets For Veterans At Trade Deadline. That seems like a likely way to go, especially if the younger players move up--and if a contender has a key slot open up due to injury. Having so much youth, and so many players on one-and contracts, could generate massive flexibility under the right circumstances. And if Frank can actually play, the amount of surplus takes another step up. Same may be true for Brazdeikis, if he is more than a "tweener."
RE: Posting and Toasting have always been Frenchy cheerleaders  
djm : 9/14/2019 3:06 pm : link
In comment 14574967 Greg from LI said:
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Doesn't mean they're wrong in this instance, but it does make me skeptical.


Many reputable people still like Frank’s potential. There’s probably a valid reason why. Not that he has any trade value but I’d think frank would be scooped up in a minute if he was available.

Stranger things have happened. Frank might play much better in year 3.
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Del Shofner : 9/14/2019 3:16 pm : link
In comment 14575048 manh george said
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5) Gaining Assets For Veterans At Trade Deadline. That seems like a likely way to go, especially if the younger players move up--and if a contender has a key slot open up due to injury. Having so much youth, and so many players on one-and contracts, could generate massive flexibility under the right circumstances. And if Frank can actually play, the amount of surplus takes another step up. Same may be true for Brazdeikis, if he is more than a "tweener."


Don’t we have to exercise an option on Frank soon or he becomes a free agent?
All NBA players work on their game during the off-season  
Vanzetti : 9/14/2019 3:31 pm : link
So it is kind of meaningless to say Dennis did this or Frankie did that.

It only matters if it translates on the court, and it rarely does because the nba is about athletic ability and hand to eye coordination, neither of which can be learned
Payton  
GMEN46 : 9/14/2019 4:21 pm : link
Should be traded right on Dec 15th. Pick up Frankie option and let frank and smith jr split point for this year and next year.
The Knicks look pretty different if Frank turns into a quality player.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/14/2019 4:49 pm : link
For that matter, the last two years of the Knicks' history look pretty different if Frank, Knox, Mitch and Barrett turn into quality players.
So it is kind of meaningless to say Dennis did this  
manh george : 9/14/2019 9:01 pm : link
or Frankie did that.

True in some cases, except:

--Frankie very specifically had to work on adding muscle mass and muscle tone, which everyone knew he did coming out of the Euroleague as a baby. The question, then is how much the added strength would add to his game, as a still-growing 21-year-old. Do you know the answer? I don't.

--Smith is in a very specific category of player who has historically come into the league as lousy shooters. The category? Great leapers, many of whom went through high school, street ball and college able to go over anyone who was guarding them. As a result, many came into the NBA with lousy shooting tecnique. Some of those leapers turned into quality shooters, some didn't. But, it was always clear that they had technique problems that needed to be fixed. Examples? Trevor Ariza succeeded. Iman Schumpert didn't. Landry Fields might have except he was a head case with injuries. Starks mostly succeeded. It tends to work better for great leapers who are also very good athletes. Will it work for Smith? I predict "yes."
Frank is young so more time is fine  
ChaChing : 9/14/2019 9:25 pm : link
but the issue is his lack of development in the NBA so far. He was always good in international play. That's why we got him. It's reassuring to see he IS a baller against many of the same players he sees in the NBA, but curious why he's this good there but so tentative if not awful here

Maybe it's a NYC & endless media. FIBA is big but not likely the same as the DAILY questions after every game & practice. I bet you get a lot more unconditional love playing for your country than NBA fans. We have no idea how this effects people, yet it's HUGE every single time no matter how often we ignore it or say it shouldn't be the case / they are pros etc

Patience is fine but it's time he starts improving and not being 0 value (even his D at least isn't what it was rookie yr, if it's all that good save maybe specifics like PnR D at this point). He also needs to improve his motor. If you're a D player and struggling to get time, that's not an option (really any player but esp fringe)
Not only was there a lack of development  
Greg from LI : 9/14/2019 9:36 pm : link
He actually got worse from year one to year two
RE: Not only was there a lack of development  
81_Great_Dane : 9/14/2019 9:42 pm : link
In comment 14575302 Greg from LI said:
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He actually got worse from year one to year two
I believe in patience but yeah, this season he's got to show serious improvement.
I watch every Knicks  
Svengali : 9/14/2019 11:21 pm : link
God help me..... and to me he has looked like a good player when given time. It’s true he’s not been good with the Knicks because he’s a team player and most of the time other then last year the team played terrible team. I now they were bad last year but they headed in the direction of team ball. If it were me I would give home minutes this year with this young team and I think those who actually watch the games will be surprised.
Sorry for the  
Svengali : 9/14/2019 11:23 pm : link
Typos... I don’t normally post via phone.
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