Reading this article from The Athletic drives home how sorry the Giants franchise has been for too many years.
The reporter basically asked players in the division which team they liked least and which stadium was their least favorite to play in.
Almost universally, players from other teams prefer playing the Giants and playing in Giant Stadium.
Where have you gone LT, Michael S, Jesse A, Carl, DD, Snee, Bradshaw, Jacobs, Harry Carson, Osi, Jimmy Burt, Bavaro. . . .guys who made sure the Skins, cowboys, and Iggles left Giants Stadium bruised and beat up.
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much longer. And the giants have probably made as many championship games as any franchise out there. Really all teams go through droughts.
much longer. And the giants have probably made as many championship games as any franchise out there. Really all teams go through droughts.
They’ve never lost a conference Championship In the Super Bowl era. Made it to five and won them all.
This team has to step up or get beat up.
Until that point its going to be a skepticism and cautious - not overwhelming- optimism because the product has been so bad. Let’s see the results.
Playing shitty.
I hate Met Life with a passion but Fed Ex is a special kind of dump.
You're 10 years older than I am so you experienced the 70s more than me. But I will say that from 1980 to 2012 the Giants didn't have more than two consecutive losing seasons. So while some years were mediocre, for 30+ years the Giants were never bleak.
That is, until Reese's inability to build a roster took hold.
As a 39 year old fan, I consider that being better than the competition. We are rebuilding, what have the cowboys been doing for the last 20 years? They have lead the division a couple years with nothing to show for it.
How the mighty have fallen - Cowboys have not won since 1995 and Redskins have not won since 1991.
Giants have won a Super Bowl in every decade I have been alive. I will take a Super Bowl win every 10 years for the rest of my life.
[insert dad joke]
It is always darkest before the Dan. -- not a typo DANiel jones!!
YOU must be patient DANIELson
Playing shitty.
This ^^^
Meanwhile Jerry's got ATT stadium and his son selecting stud players.
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And I'm 60. The "15 years of lousy football" 70s, the recent years, and a lot of meh, blah years in between. The Parcells years were the big exception. Coughlin's time looks good because of the two Super Bowls but otherwise a big nothing burger.
You're 10 years older than I am so you experienced the 70s more than me. But I will say that from 1980 to 2012 the Giants didn't have more than two consecutive losing seasons. So while some years were mediocre, for 30+ years the Giants were never bleak.
That is, until Reese's inability to build a roster took hold.
Well, I'm older than both of you, and I experienced every game between 1964 and 1980 when the Giants did not make the
playoffs a single time and sported a winning record one season, in 1970. We lost the playoff game.
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And I'm 60. The "15 years of lousy football" 70s, the recent years, and a lot of meh, blah years in between. The Parcells years were the big exception. Coughlin's time looks good because of the two Super Bowls but otherwise a big nothing burger.
You're 10 years older than I am so you experienced the 70s more than me. But I will say that from 1980 to 2012 the Giants didn't have more than two consecutive losing seasons. So while some years were mediocre, for 30+ years the Giants were never bleak.
That is, until Reese's inability to build a roster took hold.
Well, I'm older than both of you, and I experienced every game between 1964 and 1980 when the Giants did not make the
playoffs a single time and sported a winning record one season, in 1970. We lost the playoff game.
It's 2:00 am so I have an excuse. They didn't lose the playoff year the one year that they had the winning record. Their 9-5 record that season wasn't good enough to make the playoffs.
You don't win it all every year. The Jets haven't been to the Super Bowl since 1970. It's been 23 years since the Cowboys have won it. The Browns and Lions have never been there, at all...
Not every team can be like the Pats.
Playing shitty.
Wasn't that also a night game? Night games are obviously louder because more alcohol has been consumed.
[quote] The one and only playoff game held at MetLife and it was loud. The Giants haven’t really given the Giants much to cheer about and have been bad for the better part of a decade (although the staunch defenders of the status quo on BBI would have you believe otherwise). If the Giants turn into a consistent winner with DJ being a star and Barkley being a player that strikes fear into opposing d coordinators, with a mean offensive line and a fierce pash rush the stadium will be loud.
Which is a good case for Jones starting now. This team needs a shot of energy and excitement. The argument that Eli is not the problem might be correct. But he hasn’t proven to be the solution and the status quo seems stale.
Since 11 this team has been built with a philosophy of ,”Let s retool” it s been a flawed strategy. I believe in big part that plan has been motivated by having Eli at quarterback.
Gettleman however has committed to a “rebuild”, except at quarterback. I just think when that happens you will see a new energy and excitement among the fan base.
Of course that could happen with Eli if the Giants play themselves into contention, but that seems unlikely at this pt.
This isn’t about franchise history
We are awful no matter what criterion you use- look them up - we are bottom feeder
Wins?
Playoff wins?
Draft stats?
Bungled coaching and management decisions?
Many of us know it - others act as if we are the patriots and can
Sign top flight players for a bargain - kick the tires - pick and choose
All equal nobody coming here
We have to pay more or pay longer for good players
Hence - the crap we have signed and cut- just embarrassing
The draft has to be red hot for us
There is some hope from our young team
A couple more drafts
The inevitable QB change
The JR stink goes away
The disgrace of TCs handling
Mara goes silent
The stadium is a piece of shit
Not sure what idiots- oh wait a minute - yes i do -
I know awful and great-53 years of being there - I’m 61-
I am in the 100s. No offense. I am offended when it is a big 5hird down play for our defense and I am screamed at to sit down.
The old regime would look at a half filled stadium and hear the boos and try to make an effort to change things but this group is like the CBS owners of the Yankees. Their actions have made it clear that they really don't care.
When was the last time this team's defense scared anyone? Where are the junkyard dogs?
It's like they're thumbing their noses at the fans.
The Giants are following a similar path as the Redskins, minus the obscene, high-profile free agent signings. Expect more of the same.
When our OL was getting pushed back into Eli for the past 7 years... would the decibel level have changed that? Really?
And since the Giants suck it’s easy to get tickets
...from a string of really bad Drafts, injuries, to the hiring of uninspiring coaches, the Giants just suck.
It looks like our offense will be pretty good this season, but the team is going nowhere fast with this defense.
The team's biggest problem IMO (outside their Head Coach): by the time this franchise fixes its defense, the offensive line may have aged out.
It got so bad between the nephew (Tim) and the uncle (Wellington) they could not be in the same room together and they were co-owners of the team. Finally Rozelle reminded them that they were in the biggest media market in the US and the Football team was a travesty. He made them hire a real GM.
Of course I want it to get better but, this ain't so bad. How would you like to be a Jet's fan or a Dolphin's fan?
much longer. And the giants have probably made as many championship games as any franchise out there. Really all teams go through droughts.
Yeah, I don't get the line of thinking that the Parcells era was so much more successful than the Coughlin era.
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Was the Carolina game in 2008 for the number one seed. The Derek Ward game where he went off. On TV the camera was shaking like crazy when the defense was on the field during a big play. I mean I could feel the intensity on TV from my living room. That was a great showing. Which I guess lends credence to Giant Johns comment about the team needing the fans to have something to root for. BUT, it would be nice if they tried a little harder during early season games when there is still hope. Even if they are
Playing shitty.
Wasn't that also a night game? Night games are obviously louder because more alcohol has been consumed.
It indeed was. It was either Sunday night or Monday night.
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Was the Carolina game in 2008 for the number one seed. The Derek Ward game where he went off. On TV the camera was shaking like crazy when the defense was on the field during a big play. I mean I could feel the intensity on TV from my living room. That was a great showing. Which I guess lends credence to Giant Johns comment about the team needing the fans to have something to root for. BUT, it would be nice if they tried a little harder during early season games when there is still hope. Even if they are
Playing shitty.
Wasn't that also a night game? Night games are obviously louder because more alcohol has been consumed.
It indeed was. It was either Sunday night or Monday night.
That game was an outlier for a few reasons. It was on national TV for homefield advantage. It was a night game during the holidays, so you had a bunch of college kids and people who had the next day off.
It also one of the coldest games in recent memory - alcohol was almost a necessity because hot chocolate / coffee was freezing. Hence people were ready to rock and roll.
I think a lot of teams not named the Pats would take that.
I think the complaint is these long stretches were they're not even in the hunt. But you have teams like the Eagles who usually are in it, but only won it all recently.
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It would have cost billions to build AT&T here, the Maras don’t have that kind of coin.
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Meanwhile Jerry's got ATT stadium and his son selecting stud players.
WINNING solves this...
We need to see improvement this year and a playoff run next year when we have all the cap money. Shurmur/DG are next year if they don’t contend for the division at a minimum.
In comment 14575477 Ivan15 said:
The stadium was really loud when DJ8 was dropping dimes during the preseason.
We may not win, but we'll be hated and feared!!!