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Connelly gets the start today

KingBlue : 9/15/2019 7:59 am
Linebacker Ryan Connelly is replacing Tae Davis in the starting lineup. Also, Baker gets the start.

Baker is not all that surprising once his knee held up. Pretty quick promotion for Connelly though.
Source: See attached article  
KingBlue : 9/15/2019 8:02 am : link
Last paragraph of article
Two rookies elevated to starting linup - ( New Window )
RC promotion over TD  
Rick in Dallas : 9/15/2019 8:03 am : link
Just a further sign of how bad our LB’s
Uh oh  
Bill L : 9/15/2019 8:08 am : link
The article also talked about how Buffalo was the best down field pass defense in the league. They’re not allowing *anybody* 20 yard passes down the field.

Safest bet today is the over on snide “Captain Checkdown” comments in the Game Discussion thread.
Hope Connelly plays well  
Canton : 9/15/2019 8:08 am : link
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Good for Connelly  
Jimmy Googs : 9/15/2019 8:12 am : link
would love to see him track down and control Allen's scrambling today.

Defense absolutely needsg to get off the field more and feed SB...
I thought Davis played  
Tuckrule : 9/15/2019 8:12 am : link
Well outside of one play where he got sucked in on play action
RE: I thought Davis played  
mfsd : 9/15/2019 8:16 am : link
In comment 14575470 Tuckrule said:
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Well outside of one play where he got sucked in on play action


Agreed, but he’s also still a JAG IMO. They clearly see something on Connelly.

Still going to be growing pains for all these young guys I expect, but glad they’re getting their shot
RE: I thought Davis played  
M.S. : 9/15/2019 8:20 am : link
In comment 14575470 Tuckrule said:
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Well outside of one play where he got sucked in on play action

And right after he let up that embarrassing TD, he then held the TE on the next series which helped extend Dallas' drive. On a normal team with a half-way decent group of LBers, Tae David would be a back-up, and that assumes he made the team.
RE: RC promotion over TD  
Giantimistic : 9/15/2019 8:22 am : link
In comment 14575464 Rick in Dallas said:
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Just a further sign of how bad our LB’s


Maybe it is because we finally hit on a linebacker. I am going to go with that until proven otherwise. I like his instincts and closing speed.
mfsd  
fkap : 9/15/2019 8:25 am : link
"Still going to be growing pains for all these young guys I expect, but glad they’re getting their shot"

W-L is probably going to be bad this year. What will make this a truly disappointing year is if the youngsters don't progress and become a core for next year.
RE: mfsd  
Big Rick in FL : 9/15/2019 8:29 am : link
In comment 14575476 fkap said:
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"Still going to be growing pains for all these young guys I expect, but glad they’re getting their shot"

W-L is probably going to be bad this year. What will make this a truly disappointing year is if the youngsters don't progress and become a core for next year.


Yup! I've been trying to tell Giants fans this for months now. It's not about this year it's about 2020. We need Barkley, Engram, Hernandez, Zo, Hill, Tomlinson, Lawrence, Connelly, Ximines, Baker, Beal, Love, Ballantine & Peppers to develop and show they can be core members of this team.
NYG’s best defensive play last week’  
flycatcher : 9/15/2019 8:32 am : link
was Connelly shooting the gap to blow up that sweep.
He'll be a good linebacker for us. He may have some growing pains,  
Ira : 9/15/2019 8:49 am : link
but he'll learn. He's a player.
Our LBers are all JAGs....  
Simms11 : 9/15/2019 8:54 am : link
Connelly has shown decent instincts and the ability to get there and make tackles. He’ll have growing pains still and the experience he gains this year willl be invaluable. Hopefully he shows enough this year to be counted on as a nice piece to the defense going forward. Giants still need more dynamic LBers however, especially on the outside.
For all the talk about the ‘Kansas City Plan’...  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/15/2019 9:04 am : link
... I think the 2019 Giants are much closer to the 2016 Rams than the 2017 Chiefs. Reid was able to field a winning team (and keep his job) in a transition year, despite Smith’s limitations and a porous defense. Fisher couldn’t do either. Like Shurmur, he had his rookie “QB of the future” and a marquee RB in his second year; but there were simply too many holes left to fill and too many vets hanging around for a last paycheck. Ironically, Alec Ogletree embodies the stopgap mediocrity of both defenses.

Can Shurmur survive the dark days of the turnaround? My guess is that he’s safe through 2020, because I think Gettleman and Mara know the 2017 Giants needed a gut rehab, not a quick fix. Working players like Connelly and Baker into the lineup should move that process along. The initial results might be ugly, but the new kids can’t be much worse than their predecessors.
RE: For all the talk about the ‘Kansas City Plan’...  
M.S. : 9/15/2019 9:14 am : link
In comment 14575490 Big Blue Blogger said:
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... I think the 2019 Giants are much closer to the 2016 Rams than the 2017 Chiefs. Reid was able to field a winning team (and keep his job) in a transition year, despite Smith’s limitations and a porous defense. Fisher couldn’t do either. Like Shurmur, he had his rookie “QB of the future” and a marquee RB in his second year; but there were simply too many holes left to fill and too many vets hanging around for a last paycheck. Ironically, Alec Ogletree embodies the stopgap mediocrity of both defenses.

Can Shurmur survive the dark days of the turnaround? My guess is that he’s safe through 2020, because I think Gettleman and Mara know the 2017 Giants needed a gut rehab, not a quick fix. Working players like Connelly and Baker into the lineup should move that process along. The initial results might be ugly, but the new kids can’t be much worse than their predecessors.

Can Shurmur survive the dark days of the turnaround? Four wins or less this season and I believe Shurmur and his staff will be gone.
RE: I thought Davis played  
mittenedman : 9/15/2019 9:15 am : link
In comment 14575470 Tuckrule said:
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Well outside of one play where he got sucked in on play action


Obviously he didn't.
He's got speed but he is slow to react which is the death knell for an NFL linebacker.
Connelly couldn't play any worse  
ZogZerg : 9/15/2019 9:24 am : link
Good for him.
It's Possible That Connelly Starts..  
Jim in Tampa : 9/15/2019 9:34 am : link
But Tae replaces him on passing downs.
I predicted week 5  
Joey in VA : 9/15/2019 9:37 am : link
But was never any doubt to me that he'd start soon.
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arcarsenal : 9/15/2019 9:42 am : link
Good. He and Baker needed to be in there sooner than later. Hopefully we see more Ballentine today, too.
Instincts and quick acceleration  
Mattman : 9/15/2019 9:43 am : link
Are a great combo
Good move, its too bad we don't have someone for Ogletree's bum ass.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/15/2019 9:56 am : link
Although I don't think Connellys shoe string tackles get it done against Allen today, prove me wrong rook!
MLB are analogous to QBs  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/15/2019 10:08 am : link
They are difficult to scout, a lot of their job is mental and attitude. Connelly flashed, haven't seen it since Pierce.
Obviously could be wrong  
j_rud : 9/15/2019 10:10 am : link
but just based on the eye test last week without knowing assignments etc I think I'd rather him replace Ogeltree.
RE: Obviously could be wrong  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/15/2019 10:13 am : link
In comment 14575544 j_rud said:
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but just based on the eye test last week without knowing assignments etc I think I'd rather him replace Ogeltree.


That was my first thought as well, when I opened the thread I almost expected it to be Ogletree to get benched. He was worse last week.
First of many starts...  
Bradshaw's Decal : 9/15/2019 10:23 am : link
Connelly will shine today. He will excel against teams without big workhorse type RB's. I'm guessing somewhere along the lines of 5 tackles 1tfl and 1 big play if they're smart enough to keep him on the field
^ wrong in this case, I'm afraid:  
ColHowPepper : 9/15/2019 10:44 am : link
Singletary is not a 'big workhorse' RB, he is small, compact, and strong, going to be way quicker than any Giants' LB, including Connelly
He’s gonna be in the lineup  
rdt288 : 9/15/2019 10:44 am : link
For next decade
RE: Obviously could be wrong  
arcarsenal : 9/15/2019 10:48 am : link
In comment 14575544 j_rud said:
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but just based on the eye test last week without knowing assignments etc I think I'd rather him replace Ogeltree.


It's harder to replace Ogletree with Connelly because Ogletree is the communicator and the one getting the calls from the sideline. I think that's too much to put on Connelly's plate this early.

If Ogletree continues to struggle or play poorly, it could be an option as Connelly gets more PT and is more comfortable.
ha! 'the next decade'  
ColHowPepper : 9/15/2019 10:53 am : link
that kind of projection inevitably recalls the 1990 draft, old Felt Forum, when Giants selected Mike Fox, DT from WVa in the 2nd. A 'knowledgeable' fan screamed out for all to hear:

<<Pencil him in for the next ten years!!>> He was cut within a year or two.
RE: RE: Obviously could be wrong  
LeftHook : 9/15/2019 10:55 am : link
In comment 14575586 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14575544 j_rud said:


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but just based on the eye test last week without knowing assignments etc I think I'd rather him replace Ogeltree.
Communication, was a huge issue last week, with this D. Break out the college Q cards, for this D. lol


It's harder to replace Ogletree with Connelly because Ogletree is the communicator and the one getting the calls from the sideline. I think that's too much to put on Connelly's plate this early.

If Ogletree continues to struggle or play poorly, it could be an option as Connelly gets more PT and is more comfortable.
RE: ha! 'the next decade'  
speedywheels : 9/15/2019 11:09 am : link
In comment 14575591 ColHowPepper said:
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that kind of projection inevitably recalls the 1990 draft, old Felt Forum, when Giants selected Mike Fox, DT from WVa in the 2nd. A 'knowledgeable' fan screamed out for all to hear:

<<Pencil him in for the next ten years!!>> He was cut within a year or two.


Shockingly, he lasted 9 years in the NFL, 5 with the Giants.

But yeah, he did not live up to expectations...
RE: RE: RE: Obviously could be wrong  
arcarsenal : 9/15/2019 11:12 am : link
In comment 14575592 LeftHook said:
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In comment 14575586 arcarsenal said:


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In comment 14575544 j_rud said:


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but just based on the eye test last week without knowing assignments etc I think I'd rather him replace Ogeltree.
Communication, was a huge issue last week, with this D. Break out the college Q cards, for this D. lol


It's harder to replace Ogletree with Connelly because Ogletree is the communicator and the one getting the calls from the sideline. I think that's too much to put on Connelly's plate this early.

If Ogletree continues to struggle or play poorly, it could be an option as Connelly gets more PT and is more comfortable.



I get it - we were a mess last week and the communication was awful. I just don't know if it's realistic to expect them to bench Ogletree after one week. You can only be so reactionary... you've got to give some things a little time to work themselves out. If we keep yanking and replacing guys every other week, the defense will never get on the same page.

If they want to see more Connelly, it made more sense to have him play over Davis. At least for the time being. If Ogletree continues to be a problem and the defense is having communication issues that aren't resolving, then they definitely will need to look at the alternatives.
Agree with the above  
Jimmy Googs : 9/15/2019 11:15 am : link
maybe Ogletree will come down with one of those "sloppy" Allen throws this week...
So two rookie LBs starting?  
Rflairr : 9/15/2019 11:21 am : link
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Good sign  
JonC : 9/15/2019 11:22 am : link
He must be practicing well and showing command of his assignments. After last week it should be clear how important these factors are in football.
speedy, my bad  
ColHowPepper : 9/15/2019 11:25 am : link
if he hung on for 5, I should have searched his career stats ):
I don't have game-to-game recall of individual plays that stand out (with notable exceptions, like LT, Sehorn, Amani, Plax, Eli, OBJ, etc.) like some here do, like Sy, but, sheesh, I recall no plays of note from him.
The pick after Mike Fox was the epic bust.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/15/2019 11:35 am : link
Greg Mark didn’t even make the team after the Giants took him in The third round. Miami tried to convert him from Edge to ILB. that didn’t work either.
I don't remember Mike Fox being that bad  
jcn56 : 9/15/2019 11:40 am : link
could be because of the era of Giants football that followed, but I thought he ended up being a decent player for awhile.
Davis  
AcidTest : 9/15/2019 12:15 pm : link
will still see the field a lot, especially in passing downs.
Fox (and I get an F for millering, sorry KB)  
ColHowPepper : 9/15/2019 12:17 pm : link
prolly the contrast between the sky's the limit prediction and a middling career as the reason for my harping carping
RE: mfsd  
Josh in the City : 9/15/2019 12:25 pm : link
In comment 14575476 fkap said:
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"Still going to be growing pains for all these young guys I expect, but glad they’re getting their shot"

W-L is probably going to be bad this year. What will make this a truly disappointing year is if the youngsters don't progress and become a core for next year.

If that’s the case then why isn’t DJ starting?
Starting LB core should be  
Earl the goat : 9/15/2019 1:30 pm : link
Golden. Connelly. Davis. Carter

Ogletree just doesn’t have the speed
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