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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2019 9:38 am


Let's go!

Not expecting much scoring in this game by offense  
micky : 9/15/2019 9:46 am : link
Except maybe the Bills considering how bad this d is
What matchup today actually favors the NYG? I don’t see any  
The_Boss : 9/15/2019 9:52 am : link
In my opinion, which is quite an indictment on the state of the roster currently. Buffalo will field the more talented team today.

Sadly, I’m thinking:
24-13 Buffalo.

For a guy that reportedly doesn't repeat mistakes I'm glad the first t  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/15/2019 9:57 am : link
thing out of DJ's mouth was I gotta protect the ball.
5-3  
DavidinBMNY : 9/15/2019 10:06 am : link
GIants. Win by a safety.
We are winning today  
mattlawson : 9/15/2019 10:07 am : link
Turning some heads, just had that feeling
Saw the tweet about Bavaro and Shockey in the house  
GiantSteps : 9/15/2019 10:08 am : link
Don't let Bavaro leave without a contract
RE: We are winning today  
joeinpa : 9/15/2019 10:16 am : link
In comment 14575539 mattlawson said:
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Turning some heads, just had that feeling


I have no idea if the Giants will win. Difficult to feel confident regardless of any opponent given the recent track record of this team.

I think most predictions of Giants winning are based on what someone hopes will happen as opposed to any match up issues they feel the Giants fan exploit.
There's no such thing as a "must" game in Week 2...  
M.S. : 9/15/2019 10:20 am : link

...but why does today feel like it's "do or die" for the 2019 Giants' season?
Goal should be get Saquon 300 total yards  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/15/2019 10:21 am : link
not this 70% Eli completion rate wco garbage losing we've been fielding for 3+ frigging years now.
Giants win ugly today, book it.  
GiantsUA : 9/15/2019 10:23 am : link
Bills serve it up and the Giants take the win.
It's not do-or-die, but if we aren't even competitive today  
CT Charlie : 9/15/2019 10:23 am : link
a 4-win season is more likely than an 8-win season.
Pat Shurmur needs to realize that Saquon Barkley  
Bob in Newburgh : 9/15/2019 10:23 am : link
not Pat Shurmur's genius, is the most valuable asset this team possesses.

While keeping him as protected from over-exposure injury as possible, you find ways to give him lots of touches.
Feed Saquon !  
LeftHook : 9/15/2019 10:28 am : link
Be patient Shurmer, Let the man run the damn ball. Keep your D off the field.
Prediction  
ChicagoMarty : 9/15/2019 10:35 am : link
JInts win by a field goal!
Game 1 was against a very very good team  
Giantz_comeback : 9/15/2019 10:37 am : link
And the young D was not ready for it. With 1 game under their belt and a less potent offense this week let's hope they show some improvement .

To me it was the offense that was the bigger disappointment. I thought we could do more stuff against them with the weapons we have. Dallas has a very good D and top DC but 10 points when it mattered isn't enough. And the offensive line played so much better than anything we saw last year. If there is one glimmer of hope is the OL looked pretty decent.
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Danny Kanell : 9/15/2019 10:48 am : link
This feels like a win today. Hopefully our crappy coaching doesn’t get in the way.
Not a lot to say that hasn't been said, but...  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/15/2019 10:51 am : link
....this game is really the litmus test for Shurmur and Bettcher. With dreck at WR and 3 rookies starting on D do the coaches step up and earn their paychecks?
At least 25 touches for #26 and we win.  
RDJR : 9/15/2019 11:00 am : link
Otherwise, we’re staring at 0-2, again.
RE: Giants win ugly today, book it.  
Jimmy Googs : 9/15/2019 11:06 am : link
In comment 14575564 GiantsUA said:
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Can they win another way?
Will Shurmur get his players excited today...  
M.S. : 9/15/2019 11:43 am : link

...get them to play with passion and smarts for 60 minutes?
Big game  
mittenedman : 9/15/2019 11:55 am : link
for the current coaching staff.
I don't think this staff is the right one  
Optimus-NY : 9/15/2019 11:58 am : link
But they also don't have the horses yet. Regardless of what happens this year, they deserve a chance through 2020.
I have no idea what to expect.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/15/2019 12:01 pm : link
The Giants' D is still extremely green and isn't cohesive but we have every reason to expect improvement — at some point. On offense, the Giants' receiving corps isn't good but I expect them to line up Engram and/or Barkley outside quite a bit to compensate. We might see Gallman and even Perkins more involved today when Barkley's lined up wide, and "2 tight end" sets with Ellison at a true TE spot and and Engram wide.

On the Bills side, Allen is an unusual player, as much a running back as a QB. Also a turnover machine. I figure keep him contained in the pocket, try to keep him from beating you with his legs, and bait him into some INTs.

At some point, the game will slow down for those Giants young guys. Until then, who knows?
Prediction  
90.Cal : 9/15/2019 12:03 pm : link
- Giants lose late

- Antonio Hamilton gets targeted & abused

- Giants still have 0 pass rush

- We play good enough on offense to win

- but Eli does not a complete a pass '25+ yards in the air' not once.
And I know AH is not the #2 cb this week  
90.Cal : 9/15/2019 12:04 pm : link
And hopefully wont be on the field as much as he was last week but he will get reps and they will go his way when he is on the field in coverage.
RE: 5-3  
flycatcher : 9/15/2019 12:05 pm : link
In comment 14575538 DavidinBMNY said:
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GIants. Win by a safety.

BUF long snapper sails one out of the end zone?
RE: Will Shurmur get his players excited today...  
81_Great_Dane : 9/15/2019 12:05 pm : link
In comment 14575636 M.S. said:
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...get them to play with passion and smarts for 60 minutes?
I think the "passion" side of things is a little overrated. A little. Because it's hard to gauge emotion from the stands or on TV.

When the other team is kicking your ass, you generally look "flat," even if you're totally amped up. So if you want the team to appear excited, they better figure out a way to cover guys over the middle.
RE: I have no idea what to expect.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/15/2019 12:07 pm : link
In comment 14575655 81_Great_Dane said:
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The Giants' D is still extremely green and isn't cohesive but we have every reason to expect improvement — at some point. On offense, the Giants' receiving corps isn't good but I expect them to line up Engram and/or Barkley outside quite a bit to compensate. We might see Gallman and even Perkins more involved today when Barkley's lined up wide, and "2 tight end" sets with Ellison at a true TE spot and and Engram wide.

On the Bills side, Allen is an unusual player, as much a running back as a QB. Also a turnover machine. I figure keep him contained in the pocket, try to keep him from beating you with his legs, and bait him into some INTs.

At some point, the game will slow down for those Giants young guys. Until then, who knows?
Not Perkins, inactive. So I'm off there.
RE: Prediction  
flycatcher : 9/15/2019 12:08 pm : link
In comment 14575576 ChicagoMarty said:
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JInts win by a field goal!

This, in a high-scoring game - Eli lights it up, something like 34-31.
No garbage time today.
RE: RE: Prediction  
Big Rick in FL : 9/15/2019 12:16 pm : link
In comment 14575663 flycatcher said:
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In comment 14575576 ChicagoMarty said:


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JInts win by a field goal!


This, in a high-scoring game - Eli lights it up, something like 34-31.
No garbage time today.


You really think the Giants are going to score 34 with Cody Latimer, Bennie Fowler, Russell Shepard and TJ Jones playing WR?

Or Eli is going to light up a team that allowed 179 pass yards per game last year & 155 to the Jets this year?
I  
AcidTest : 9/15/2019 12:23 pm : link
have a bad feeling about this game.

I can't remember a more pedestrian set of WRs to start for the Giants during a regular season game. There is no deep threat, and I question how effective Latimer will be even if he plays. The remaining WRs are basically underneath possession players who will need time to get open, especially against the Buffalo pass defense, which was #1 in the league last year. A mobile QB could buy them that time, but that is obviously not Eli. I expect the Bills to blitz Eli a lot, and concentrate on limiting Barkley and Engram. We may need a lot of 10-12 play drives just to get into FG range. I would split Barkley and Engram out, and use Penny as a blocker in the backfield to try and buy time.

On defense, I'd continually blitz Carter, Ximines, and Skipper to try and generate pass rush, and play Ballentine as the nickel. We also need to play a safety over the top on Brown. Allen's rocket arm and mobility could really hurt us, but I'd rather die with the blitz then allow him to just pick us apart.
Josh Allen  
WillVAB : 9/15/2019 12:30 pm : link
Turns it over a ton and is pretty erratic as a passer. All these shiny new toys in the secondary need to step up and make some plays today.
Just give Barkley the damn ball.  
Motley Two : 9/15/2019 12:30 pm : link
His teammates love blocking for him.
Don't know if it got much mention on here this week, but Shep & Latimer graded out at the #2 & #3 WRs blocking last week in the entire league. Barkley's teammates want him running just as much as the fans.
Let the other team stop him, not the play calling.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2019 12:35 pm : link
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TJ Jones fielding the punt to end warmups. Seems like a good sign that he'll be the top punt returner today.

Over/Under  
XBRONX : 9/15/2019 12:45 pm : link
on Jones fumbling punts?
Just looking for improvement from last week  
mofti : 9/15/2019 12:50 pm : link
i except the defense to come out fired up after last weeks embarrassment


The key to winning is going to be turnovers. can this defense produce turnovers
RE: RE: RE: Prediction  
flycatcher : 9/15/2019 12:53 pm : link
In comment 14575670 Big Rick in FL said:
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In comment 14575663 flycatcher said:


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In comment 14575576 ChicagoMarty said:


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JInts win by a field goal!


This, in a high-scoring game - Eli lights it up, something like 34-31.
No garbage time today.



You really think the Giants are going to score 34 with Cody Latimer, Bennie Fowler, Russell Shepard and TJ Jones playing WR?

Or Eli is going to light up a team that allowed 179 pass yards per game last year & 155 to the Jets this year?

But you left Barkley and Engram out of the equation, and I think Fowler is underrated. I'm always hopeful, if not blindly optimistic. Any given Sunday, etc. GO GIANTS
I feel like after this game, people will speak of  
santacruzom : 9/15/2019 12:57 pm : link
Josh Allen the same way they spoke of Lamar Jackson after last week.
Giants have no yards passing  
mikeinbloomfield : 9/15/2019 1:40 pm : link
With a minute left if the first quarter. So yeah, this is working out well.
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