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Ok media and ok fans...it’s time to do your job

Danny Kanell : 9/15/2019 4:02 pm
The only way this franchise pulls the plug and starts Jones is with intense outside pressure.

Let’s do this.
Eli is a legend. The greatest QB to ever play for us, and a HoFer  
dpinzow : 9/15/2019 4:04 pm : link
He'll probably get the #10 retired too. But it's apparent that he's physically shot. He can't throw the deep ball much anymore, certainly not with accuracy. That part of his game started degrading in 2017. Now he can't throw the ball on the move, and even struggles when he has to shift in the pocket to find a throwing lane. They have to go to Jones
Jones needs to start ASAP  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2019 4:04 pm : link
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So now we don't think  
santacruzom : 9/15/2019 4:05 pm : link
All the beat writers are unprofessional shit stirrers?
RE: So now we don't think  
Danny Kanell : 9/15/2019 4:07 pm : link
In comment 14577458 santacruzom said:
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All the beat writers are unprofessional shit stirrers?


Most are but when the fan base gets behind the media, Mara reacts. Maybe we should do something crazy like fly a fucking plane over the stadium

Wait...
Mara is a clown owner  
Ned In Atlanta : 9/15/2019 4:07 pm : link
He panders to Dep, FMIC and all of the other Eli shills who have been excusing his awful play then last 4 years
does eli cause the defense  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/15/2019 4:12 pm : link
to collapse in critical situations?
Daniel Jones ain't Geno Smith  
penkap75 : 9/15/2019 4:13 pm : link
No one will be upset if Eli is benched. And I even named my 1st born son Eli. I don't even think people would have been upset if Eli was benched for Davis Webb, but McAdoo knew how shitty Webb was.
GM replacement as well?  
Mdgiantsfan : 9/15/2019 4:13 pm : link
For all the love Getts has recvd it’s hard to see how we get to being a .500 team. No WRs, the entire D lacks playmakers. By the time the you get skill players on offense right, the Oline will be aging. Both tackles need upgrading very soon. So what exactly has the GM done with this team?
RE: does eli cause the defense  
Danny Kanell : 9/15/2019 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14577525 Paulie Walnuts said:
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to collapse in critical situations?


You think Eli should start next week? You think this team as constructed can win enough footballs games to compete for a playoff spot?
it  
AndyMilligan : 9/15/2019 4:15 pm : link
is time. it is long past time.
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threeofakind33 : 9/15/2019 4:15 pm : link
This is the first time I’ve said this since Eli took over from Kurt Warner, leading us to two incredible Super Bowl wins along the way. I am incredibly grateful to him as a player.

It is time. Jones must start.

This team is going nowhere, they are 2 years away at least.
Might as well  
Breeze_94 : 9/15/2019 4:17 pm : link
start Jones.

Worst case he gets live game action...best case he provides a huge spark and helps turn this offense around.

Eli is cooked.

Some will continue to blame the OL and lack of WR's. Regardless, it doesn't make sense to continue to trot out a 38 year old Qb who has gone 8-25 since 2017.
It's time  
Jay on the Island : 9/15/2019 4:19 pm : link
Honestly I think the only way that Shurmur keeps is job is if he starts Jones now and the team plays reasonably well.
A lymerick  
V.I.G. : 9/15/2019 4:19 pm : link
The clues were there
All in the house knew
Eli extension, neigh
DJ at 6
Deja vu thru two
All wait for game 8
RE: .  
dpinzow : 9/15/2019 4:20 pm : link
In comment 14577561 threeofakind33 said:
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This is the first time I’ve said this since Eli took over from Kurt Warner, leading us to two incredible Super Bowl wins along the way. I am incredibly grateful to him as a player.

It is time. Jones must start.

This team is going nowhere, they are 2 years away at least.


This is exactly right
RE: does eli cause the defense  
Dutch77 : 9/15/2019 4:22 pm : link
In comment 14577525 Paulie Walnuts said:
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to collapse in critical situations?

NO, but unless our defense turns into the 85 Bears, we’re not winning football games with a QB who can only account for 1 touchdown a game. Time to turn the page and move on.
I don't get why people point to defense in order to distract from  
Jim in Hoboken : 9/15/2019 4:22 pm : link
Eli's poor play. One doesn't have anything to do with the other. A loss is a loss, but it sure as hell more comforting to lose 35 to 42 than 17 to 42.

Last year at least people pointed to the same side of the ball, now they are pointing at the defense.

And don't give me the lack of receivers as an excuse either, the star receiver was traded away because he didn't want to play with Eli.

Before it was lack of running game, then lack of OL, now it's lack of WR and DEFENSE???

It was unfortunate for the last few years that we didn't have a viable alternative, now it's just pure frustration we are forced to look at Eli tripping over himself out there.
Don’t think Jones starts  
RobCarpenter : 9/15/2019 4:29 pm : link
Until the Giants lose more games. Or if there are a bunch of empty seats at home games.

I agree that it makes no sense to start Eli at this point. But I have no faith that Shurmur will pull the trigger anytime soon.
No organization will allow the fans or the media to pick theri qb!  
SterlingArcher : 9/15/2019 5:00 pm : link
The Giants will stay with Eli as long they feel he gives them the best chance to win.
RE: Jones needs to start ASAP  
SterlingArcher : 9/15/2019 5:02 pm : link
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That is your opinion. I can tell you the Giants will continue to start Eli as long as they feel he gives them the best chance to win. Look closer, you will see the Giants defense is atrocious, starting Jones will not solve that problem.
RE: RE: Jones needs to start ASAP  
Danny Kanell : 9/15/2019 5:05 pm : link
In comment 14577865 SterlingArcher said:
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That is your opinion. I can tell you the Giants will continue to start Eli as long as they feel he gives them the best chance to win. Look closer, you will see the Giants defense is atrocious, starting Jones will not solve that problem.


That’s not the point. It’s painfully obvious to all who are paying attention that it’s about the future right now. Not the present. This team is bad. And let’s be honest, there’s at least a 50% chance going to Jones now improves the present.
RE: RE: Jones needs to start ASAP  
Ned In Atlanta : 9/15/2019 5:06 pm : link
In comment 14577865 SterlingArcher said:
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That is your opinion. I can tell you the Giants will continue to start Eli as long as they feel he gives them the best chance to win. Look closer, you will see the Giants defense is atrocious, starting Jones will not solve that problem.


If the giants still believe this they’re clueless
Eli  
Marty866b : 9/15/2019 5:06 pm : link
Never should have given him the money and brought him back. Teams in a serious rebuild don't start a quarterback who is approaching 40.
RE: No organization will allow the fans or the media to pick theri qb!  
Dutch77 : 9/15/2019 5:49 pm : link
In comment 14577857 SterlingArcher said:
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The Giants will stay with Eli as long they feel he gives them the best chance to win.

Isn’t that exactly what happened when Eli was benched? The Giant fans loss their minds and pressured ownership into firing the coach and inserting Eli back in as the Starter.
RE: Might as well  
Eman11 : 9/15/2019 5:50 pm : link
In comment 14577577 Breeze_94 said:
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start Jones.

Worst case he gets live game action...best case he provides a huge spark and helps turn this offense around.

Eli is cooked.

Some will continue to blame the OL and lack of WR's. Regardless, it doesn't make sense to continue to trot out a 38 year old Qb who has gone 8-25 since 2017.


Worst case is he gets killed out there thanks to shitty coaching.

At this point at least Eli knows where to go with the ball and get the O in the right positions in spite of the poor coaching. I honestly have no confidence in Shurmur/Shula not causing Jones more harm than good.

I'm worried about putting his fate in their hands. Hell, they can't even figure out how to use an all time great talent like Barkley right, why would we have confidence they could use Jones right?

I'm hoping they ride Eli as long as possible if for no other reason than not getting Jones all screwed up, as right now with this D, it's a lost season.
RE: RE: Might as well  
Dutch77 : 9/15/2019 6:00 pm : link
In comment 14578084 Eman11 said:
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start Jones.

Worst case he gets live game action...best case he provides a huge spark and helps turn this offense around.

Eli is cooked.

Some will continue to blame the OL and lack of WR's. Regardless, it doesn't make sense to continue to trot out a 38 year old Qb who has gone 8-25 since 2017.



Worst case is he gets killed out there thanks to shitty coaching.

At this point at least Eli knows where to go with the ball and get the O in the right positions in spite of the poor coaching. I honestly have no confidence in Shurmur/Shula not causing Jones more harm than good.

I'm worried about putting his fate in their hands. Hell, they can't even figure out how to use an all time great talent like Barkley right, why would we have confidence they could use Jones right?

I'm hoping they ride Eli as long as possible if for no other reason than not getting Jones all screwed up, as right now with this D, it's a lost season.

So at what point should Jones get his chance to play? This idea that every QB needs to only play if everything around him is PERFECT is ridiculous. We can agree that the defense is beyond terrible but what exactly is Jones actually learning watch Eli stink up the joint?
I've  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2019 6:01 pm : link
seen this shit before back in the early 1990s.

Soon you'll have Giants fans actively rooting against Eli or Daniel just so they can appear to win an argument.
Dont worry  
MookGiants : 9/15/2019 6:04 pm : link
The Eli revenge tour is coming
RE: RE: RE: Might as well  
Eman11 : 9/15/2019 6:08 pm : link
In comment 14578120 Dutch77 said:
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start Jones.

Worst case he gets live game action...best case he provides a huge spark and helps turn this offense around.

Eli is cooked.

Some will continue to blame the OL and lack of WR's. Regardless, it doesn't make sense to continue to trot out a 38 year old Qb who has gone 8-25 since 2017.



Worst case is he gets killed out there thanks to shitty coaching.

At this point at least Eli knows where to go with the ball and get the O in the right positions in spite of the poor coaching. I honestly have no confidence in Shurmur/Shula not causing Jones more harm than good.

I'm worried about putting his fate in their hands. Hell, they can't even figure out how to use an all time great talent like Barkley right, why would we have confidence they could use Jones right?

I'm hoping they ride Eli as long as possible if for no other reason than not getting Jones all screwed up, as right now with this D, it's a lost season.


So at what point should Jones get his chance to play? This idea that every QB needs to only play if everything around him is PERFECT is ridiculous. We can agree that the defense is beyond terrible but what exactly is Jones actually learning watch Eli stink up the joint?


I'll answer that with a question if that's ok. Are you really comfortable after everything we've seen from Shurmur putting DJ in his hands right now?

I know I'm not and would rather ride Eli as long as possible to limit PS fucking Jones up.

It seems to me this is a lost year and I'm good with waiting to give Jones his shot. They're not going anywhere with this D, and it wouldn't be the worst thing to wait til later in the year to get DJ on the field

I'd feel differently if we had a legit D and a shot at the playoffs but to throw Jones to the wolves with Shurmur calling the shots doesn't exactly fill me with hope. In fact it worries the hell out of me.
Do you want to ruin the boy?  
HomerJones45 : 9/15/2019 6:12 pm : link
You want to send him out there to try and throw the ball to bums like Fowler, Latimer, Cody what’shisname, Jones and the other dreck under the guidance of a an oc/hc who should have never been hired in the first place?

You guys must have enjoyed the ol’ Christians v lions matchup.
wouldn't even consider putting Jones in  
bc4life : 9/15/2019 6:12 pm : link
until Shepard and Tate are back in.
RE: Do you want to ruin the boy?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/15/2019 6:15 pm : link
In comment 14578176 HomerJones45 said:
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You want to send him out there to try and throw the ball to bums like Fowler, Latimer, Cody what’shisname, Jones and the other dreck under the guidance of a an oc/hc who should have never been hired in the first place?

You guys must have enjoyed the ol’ Christians v lions matchup.


He played at duke. We all know the narrative of how horrible his supporting cast is. What he would be working with here is better.
RE: Dont worry  
micky : 9/15/2019 7:34 pm : link
In comment 14578137 MookGiants said:
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The Eli revenge tour is coming


Lmfao!
...  
christian : 9/15/2019 7:37 pm : link
Who was that dude was obsessed with Manning shoving it up backsides or making us eat poo, I'm still waiting on that one.
RE: Mara is a clown owner  
justafan : 9/15/2019 7:38 pm : link
In comment 14577487 Ned In Atlanta said:
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He panders to Dep, FMIC and all of the other Eli shills who have been excusing his awful play then last 4 years


"shills" ???
RE: I've  
Jim in Tampa : 9/15/2019 7:38 pm : link
In comment 14578128 Eric from BBI said:
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seen this shit before back in the early 1990s.

Soon you'll have Giants fans actively rooting against Eli or Daniel just so they can appear to win an argument.

That's bullshit!

No one roots against Eli or any other Giants' player to win a BBI argument. No one!

Just because fans complain about a player doesn't mean they're rooting against him or that they want him to fail.
RE: RE: I've  
crick n NC : 9/15/2019 7:52 pm : link
In comment 14578480 Jim in Tampa said:
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seen this shit before back in the early 1990s.

Soon you'll have Giants fans actively rooting against Eli or Daniel just so they can appear to win an argument.


That's bullshit!

No one roots against Eli or any other Giants' player to win a BBI argument. No one!

Just because fans complain about a player doesn't mean they're rooting against him or that they want him to fail.


You underestimate people's lack of priorities
RE: RE: RE: I've  
Jim in Tampa : 9/15/2019 8:06 pm : link
In comment 14578524 crick n NC said:
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seen this shit before back in the early 1990s.

Soon you'll have Giants fans actively rooting against Eli or Daniel just so they can appear to win an argument.


That's bullshit!

No one roots against Eli or any other Giants' player to win a BBI argument. No one!

Just because fans complain about a player doesn't mean they're rooting against him or that they want him to fail.



You underestimate people's lack of priorities

And you have ZERO clue as to the priorities of total strangers.

Just because someone (not me but I assume someone) has spent hours disagreeing with you about whether or not Eli has sucked for years, doesn't mean they're rooting against him.

Posters who have been deluding themselves claiming that Eli's still got it have also seemingly convicned themselves that anyone who disagrees with their take is a "hater", "not a good fan" and now apparently, someone who roots against Giants' players to win an argument.
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Rico : 9/15/2019 8:15 pm : link
In comment 14577561 threeofakind33 said:
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This is the first time I’ve said this since Eli took over from Kurt Warner, leading us to two incredible Super Bowl wins along the way. I am incredibly grateful to him as a player.

It is time. Jones must start.

This team is going nowhere, they are 2 years away at least.


I was thinking the exact same thing!
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crick n NC : 9/15/2019 8:19 pm : link
In comment 14578555 Jim in Tampa said:
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seen this shit before back in the early 1990s.

Soon you'll have Giants fans actively rooting against Eli or Daniel just so they can appear to win an argument.


That's bullshit!

No one roots against Eli or any other Giants' player to win a BBI argument. No one!

Just because fans complain about a player doesn't mean they're rooting against him or that they want him to fail.



You underestimate people's lack of priorities


And you have ZERO clue as to the priorities of total strangers.

Just because someone (not me but I assume someone) has spent hours disagreeing with you about whether or not Eli has sucked for years, doesn't mean they're rooting against him.

Posters who have been deluding themselves claiming that Eli's still got it have also seemingly convicned themselves that anyone who disagrees with their take is a "hater", "not a good fan" and now apparently, someone who roots against Giants' players to win an argument.


You also have zero clue of the priorities as well. To act like it's impossible for people to put their own personal pride above something else is a bit nieve in my opinion. I never said it was absolutely true fans were doing what I have claimed. It's how I perceive certain respones, and because as people, we value being right too much.
It’s not even about the QB.  
bradshaw44 : 9/15/2019 8:21 pm : link
But I agree, start him. But I feel this team is so damaged it’s frightening. We are stuck in a K hole and I feel like we are never getting out. Start DJ just to keep Eli from ruining his HOF chances.
RE: I've  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/15/2019 11:14 pm : link
In comment 14578128 Eric from BBI said:
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seen this shit before back in the early 1990s.

Soon you'll have Giants fans actively rooting against Eli or Daniel just so they can appear to win an argument.


The argument is already won. Eli has been cooked for years.
Time is still undefeated. You can hide behind your opinions  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/15/2019 11:24 pm : link
and move the goalposts, but the truth is always going to come out.

"Get Eli a RB"
"Get Eli an offensive line"
"Get rid of the selfish diva"

We reached the point where the goal posts can't move anymore. He's got an OL, he's got the best RB in football, and he's got the blue collar, hardworking anonymous WR group everyone wanted.
Jim in Tampa  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2019 11:29 pm : link
I guarantee you there are Giants fans emotionally invested in seeing Eli fail.

What I saw back in 1991-1992 is now on steroids due to social media.
RE: Dont worry  
Tesla : 9/15/2019 11:43 pm : link
In comment 14578137 MookGiants said:
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The Eli revenge tour is coming


Which version? The one Britt predicted in 2018?

Or the one he predicted for this year?
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