He'll probably get the #10 retired too. But it's apparent that he's physically shot. He can't throw the deep ball much anymore, certainly not with accuracy. That part of his game started degrading in 2017. Now he can't throw the ball on the move, and even struggles when he has to shift in the pocket to find a throwing lane. They have to go to Jones
No one will be upset if Eli is benched. And I even named my 1st born son Eli. I don't even think people would have been upset if Eli was benched for Davis Webb, but McAdoo knew how shitty Webb was.
For all the love Getts has recvd it’s hard to see how we get to being a .500 team. No WRs, the entire D lacks playmakers. By the time the you get skill players on offense right, the Oline will be aging. Both tackles need upgrading very soon. So what exactly has the GM done with this team?
This is the first time I’ve said this since Eli took over from Kurt Warner, leading us to two incredible Super Bowl wins along the way. I am incredibly grateful to him as a player.
It is time. Jones must start.
This team is going nowhere, they are 2 years away at least.
Worst case he gets live game action...best case he provides a huge spark and helps turn this offense around.
Eli is cooked.
Some will continue to blame the OL and lack of WR's. Regardless, it doesn't make sense to continue to trot out a 38 year old Qb who has gone 8-25 since 2017.
This is the first time I’ve said this since Eli took over from Kurt Warner, leading us to two incredible Super Bowl wins along the way. I am incredibly grateful to him as a player.
It is time. Jones must start.
This team is going nowhere, they are 2 years away at least.
NO, but unless our defense turns into the 85 Bears, we’re not winning football games with a QB who can only account for 1 touchdown a game. Time to turn the page and move on.
I don't get why people point to defense in order to distract from Â
Eli's poor play. One doesn't have anything to do with the other. A loss is a loss, but it sure as hell more comforting to lose 35 to 42 than 17 to 42.
Last year at least people pointed to the same side of the ball, now they are pointing at the defense.
And don't give me the lack of receivers as an excuse either, the star receiver was traded away because he didn't want to play with Eli.
Before it was lack of running game, then lack of OL, now it's lack of WR and DEFENSE???
It was unfortunate for the last few years that we didn't have a viable alternative, now it's just pure frustration we are forced to look at Eli tripping over himself out there.
That is your opinion. I can tell you the Giants will continue to start Eli as long as they feel he gives them the best chance to win. Look closer, you will see the Giants defense is atrocious, starting Jones will not solve that problem.
That is your opinion. I can tell you the Giants will continue to start Eli as long as they feel he gives them the best chance to win. Look closer, you will see the Giants defense is atrocious, starting Jones will not solve that problem.
That’s not the point. It’s painfully obvious to all who are paying attention that it’s about the future right now. Not the present. This team is bad. And let’s be honest, there’s at least a 50% chance going to Jones now improves the present.
That is your opinion. I can tell you the Giants will continue to start Eli as long as they feel he gives them the best chance to win. Look closer, you will see the Giants defense is atrocious, starting Jones will not solve that problem.
The Giants will stay with Eli as long they feel he gives them the best chance to win.
Isn’t that exactly what happened when Eli was benched? The Giant fans loss their minds and pressured ownership into firing the coach and inserting Eli back in as the Starter.
Worst case he gets live game action...best case he provides a huge spark and helps turn this offense around.
Eli is cooked.
Some will continue to blame the OL and lack of WR's. Regardless, it doesn't make sense to continue to trot out a 38 year old Qb who has gone 8-25 since 2017.
Worst case is he gets killed out there thanks to shitty coaching.
At this point at least Eli knows where to go with the ball and get the O in the right positions in spite of the poor coaching. I honestly have no confidence in Shurmur/Shula not causing Jones more harm than good.
I'm worried about putting his fate in their hands. Hell, they can't even figure out how to use an all time great talent like Barkley right, why would we have confidence they could use Jones right?
I'm hoping they ride Eli as long as possible if for no other reason than not getting Jones all screwed up, as right now with this D, it's a lost season.
Worst case he gets live game action...best case he provides a huge spark and helps turn this offense around.
Eli is cooked.
Some will continue to blame the OL and lack of WR's. Regardless, it doesn't make sense to continue to trot out a 38 year old Qb who has gone 8-25 since 2017.
Worst case is he gets killed out there thanks to shitty coaching.
At this point at least Eli knows where to go with the ball and get the O in the right positions in spite of the poor coaching. I honestly have no confidence in Shurmur/Shula not causing Jones more harm than good.
I'm worried about putting his fate in their hands. Hell, they can't even figure out how to use an all time great talent like Barkley right, why would we have confidence they could use Jones right?
I'm hoping they ride Eli as long as possible if for no other reason than not getting Jones all screwed up, as right now with this D, it's a lost season.
So at what point should Jones get his chance to play? This idea that every QB needs to only play if everything around him is PERFECT is ridiculous. We can agree that the defense is beyond terrible but what exactly is Jones actually learning watch Eli stink up the joint?
Worst case he gets live game action...best case he provides a huge spark and helps turn this offense around.
Eli is cooked.
Some will continue to blame the OL and lack of WR's. Regardless, it doesn't make sense to continue to trot out a 38 year old Qb who has gone 8-25 since 2017.
Worst case is he gets killed out there thanks to shitty coaching.
At this point at least Eli knows where to go with the ball and get the O in the right positions in spite of the poor coaching. I honestly have no confidence in Shurmur/Shula not causing Jones more harm than good.
I'm worried about putting his fate in their hands. Hell, they can't even figure out how to use an all time great talent like Barkley right, why would we have confidence they could use Jones right?
I'm hoping they ride Eli as long as possible if for no other reason than not getting Jones all screwed up, as right now with this D, it's a lost season.
So at what point should Jones get his chance to play? This idea that every QB needs to only play if everything around him is PERFECT is ridiculous. We can agree that the defense is beyond terrible but what exactly is Jones actually learning watch Eli stink up the joint?
I'll answer that with a question if that's ok. Are you really comfortable after everything we've seen from Shurmur putting DJ in his hands right now?
I know I'm not and would rather ride Eli as long as possible to limit PS fucking Jones up.
It seems to me this is a lost year and I'm good with waiting to give Jones his shot. They're not going anywhere with this D, and it wouldn't be the worst thing to wait til later in the year to get DJ on the field
I'd feel differently if we had a legit D and a shot at the playoffs but to throw Jones to the wolves with Shurmur calling the shots doesn't exactly fill me with hope. In fact it worries the hell out of me.
You want to send him out there to try and throw the ball to bums like Fowler, Latimer, Cody what’shisname, Jones and the other dreck under the guidance of a an oc/hc who should have never been hired in the first place?
You guys must have enjoyed the ol’ Christians v lions matchup.
You want to send him out there to try and throw the ball to bums like Fowler, Latimer, Cody what’shisname, Jones and the other dreck under the guidance of a an oc/hc who should have never been hired in the first place?
You guys must have enjoyed the ol’ Christians v lions matchup.
He played at duke. We all know the narrative of how horrible his supporting cast is. What he would be working with here is better.
Soon you'll have Giants fans actively rooting against Eli or Daniel just so they can appear to win an argument.
That's bullshit!
No one roots against Eli or any other Giants' player to win a BBI argument. No one!
Just because fans complain about a player doesn't mean they're rooting against him or that they want him to fail.
You underestimate people's lack of priorities
And you have ZERO clue as to the priorities of total strangers.
Just because someone (not me but I assume someone) has spent hours disagreeing with you about whether or not Eli has sucked for years, doesn't mean they're rooting against him.
Posters who have been deluding themselves claiming that Eli's still got it have also seemingly convicned themselves that anyone who disagrees with their take is a "hater", "not a good fan" and now apparently, someone who roots against Giants' players to win an argument.
This is the first time I’ve said this since Eli took over from Kurt Warner, leading us to two incredible Super Bowl wins along the way. I am incredibly grateful to him as a player.
It is time. Jones must start.
This team is going nowhere, they are 2 years away at least.
Soon you'll have Giants fans actively rooting against Eli or Daniel just so they can appear to win an argument.
That's bullshit!
No one roots against Eli or any other Giants' player to win a BBI argument. No one!
Just because fans complain about a player doesn't mean they're rooting against him or that they want him to fail.
You underestimate people's lack of priorities
And you have ZERO clue as to the priorities of total strangers.
Just because someone (not me but I assume someone) has spent hours disagreeing with you about whether or not Eli has sucked for years, doesn't mean they're rooting against him.
Posters who have been deluding themselves claiming that Eli's still got it have also seemingly convicned themselves that anyone who disagrees with their take is a "hater", "not a good fan" and now apparently, someone who roots against Giants' players to win an argument.
You also have zero clue of the priorities as well. To act like it's impossible for people to put their own personal pride above something else is a bit nieve in my opinion. I never said it was absolutely true fans were doing what I have claimed. It's how I perceive certain respones, and because as people, we value being right too much.
But I agree, start him. But I feel this team is so damaged it’s frightening. We are stuck in a K hole and I feel like we are never getting out. Start DJ just to keep Eli from ruining his HOF chances.
and move the goalposts, but the truth is always going to come out.
"Get Eli a RB"
"Get Eli an offensive line"
"Get rid of the selfish diva"
We reached the point where the goal posts can't move anymore. He's got an OL, he's got the best RB in football, and he's got the blue collar, hardworking anonymous WR group everyone wanted.
Most are but when the fan base gets behind the media, Mara reacts. Maybe we should do something crazy like fly a fucking plane over the stadium
Wait...
You think Eli should start next week? You think this team as constructed can win enough footballs games to compete for a playoff spot?
It is time. Jones must start.
This team is going nowhere, they are 2 years away at least.
Worst case he gets live game action...best case he provides a huge spark and helps turn this offense around.
Eli is cooked.
Some will continue to blame the OL and lack of WR's. Regardless, it doesn't make sense to continue to trot out a 38 year old Qb who has gone 8-25 since 2017.
All in the house knew
Eli extension, neigh
DJ at 6
Deja vu thru two
All wait for game 8
It is time. Jones must start.
This team is going nowhere, they are 2 years away at least.
This is exactly right
NO, but unless our defense turns into the 85 Bears, we’re not winning football games with a QB who can only account for 1 touchdown a game. Time to turn the page and move on.
Last year at least people pointed to the same side of the ball, now they are pointing at the defense.
And don't give me the lack of receivers as an excuse either, the star receiver was traded away because he didn't want to play with Eli.
Before it was lack of running game, then lack of OL, now it's lack of WR and DEFENSE???
It was unfortunate for the last few years that we didn't have a viable alternative, now it's just pure frustration we are forced to look at Eli tripping over himself out there.
I agree that it makes no sense to start Eli at this point. But I have no faith that Shurmur will pull the trigger anytime soon.
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That is your opinion. I can tell you the Giants will continue to start Eli as long as they feel he gives them the best chance to win. Look closer, you will see the Giants defense is atrocious, starting Jones will not solve that problem.
That’s not the point. It’s painfully obvious to all who are paying attention that it’s about the future right now. Not the present. This team is bad. And let’s be honest, there’s at least a 50% chance going to Jones now improves the present.
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That is your opinion. I can tell you the Giants will continue to start Eli as long as they feel he gives them the best chance to win. Look closer, you will see the Giants defense is atrocious, starting Jones will not solve that problem.
If the giants still believe this they’re clueless
Isn’t that exactly what happened when Eli was benched? The Giant fans loss their minds and pressured ownership into firing the coach and inserting Eli back in as the Starter.
Worst case he gets live game action...best case he provides a huge spark and helps turn this offense around.
Eli is cooked.
Some will continue to blame the OL and lack of WR's. Regardless, it doesn't make sense to continue to trot out a 38 year old Qb who has gone 8-25 since 2017.
Worst case is he gets killed out there thanks to shitty coaching.
At this point at least Eli knows where to go with the ball and get the O in the right positions in spite of the poor coaching. I honestly have no confidence in Shurmur/Shula not causing Jones more harm than good.
I'm worried about putting his fate in their hands. Hell, they can't even figure out how to use an all time great talent like Barkley right, why would we have confidence they could use Jones right?
I'm hoping they ride Eli as long as possible if for no other reason than not getting Jones all screwed up, as right now with this D, it's a lost season.
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start Jones.
Worst case he gets live game action...best case he provides a huge spark and helps turn this offense around.
Eli is cooked.
Some will continue to blame the OL and lack of WR's. Regardless, it doesn't make sense to continue to trot out a 38 year old Qb who has gone 8-25 since 2017.
Worst case is he gets killed out there thanks to shitty coaching.
At this point at least Eli knows where to go with the ball and get the O in the right positions in spite of the poor coaching. I honestly have no confidence in Shurmur/Shula not causing Jones more harm than good.
I'm worried about putting his fate in their hands. Hell, they can't even figure out how to use an all time great talent like Barkley right, why would we have confidence they could use Jones right?
I'm hoping they ride Eli as long as possible if for no other reason than not getting Jones all screwed up, as right now with this D, it's a lost season.
So at what point should Jones get his chance to play? This idea that every QB needs to only play if everything around him is PERFECT is ridiculous. We can agree that the defense is beyond terrible but what exactly is Jones actually learning watch Eli stink up the joint?
Soon you'll have Giants fans actively rooting against Eli or Daniel just so they can appear to win an argument.
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start Jones.
Worst case he gets live game action...best case he provides a huge spark and helps turn this offense around.
Eli is cooked.
Some will continue to blame the OL and lack of WR's. Regardless, it doesn't make sense to continue to trot out a 38 year old Qb who has gone 8-25 since 2017.
Worst case is he gets killed out there thanks to shitty coaching.
At this point at least Eli knows where to go with the ball and get the O in the right positions in spite of the poor coaching. I honestly have no confidence in Shurmur/Shula not causing Jones more harm than good.
I'm worried about putting his fate in their hands. Hell, they can't even figure out how to use an all time great talent like Barkley right, why would we have confidence they could use Jones right?
I'm hoping they ride Eli as long as possible if for no other reason than not getting Jones all screwed up, as right now with this D, it's a lost season.
So at what point should Jones get his chance to play? This idea that every QB needs to only play if everything around him is PERFECT is ridiculous. We can agree that the defense is beyond terrible but what exactly is Jones actually learning watch Eli stink up the joint?
I'll answer that with a question if that's ok. Are you really comfortable after everything we've seen from Shurmur putting DJ in his hands right now?
I know I'm not and would rather ride Eli as long as possible to limit PS fucking Jones up.
It seems to me this is a lost year and I'm good with waiting to give Jones his shot. They're not going anywhere with this D, and it wouldn't be the worst thing to wait til later in the year to get DJ on the field
I'd feel differently if we had a legit D and a shot at the playoffs but to throw Jones to the wolves with Shurmur calling the shots doesn't exactly fill me with hope. In fact it worries the hell out of me.
You guys must have enjoyed the ol’ Christians v lions matchup.
You guys must have enjoyed the ol’ Christians v lions matchup.
He played at duke. We all know the narrative of how horrible his supporting cast is. What he would be working with here is better.
Lmfao!
"shills" ???
Soon you'll have Giants fans actively rooting against Eli or Daniel just so they can appear to win an argument.
That's bullshit!
No one roots against Eli or any other Giants' player to win a BBI argument. No one!
Just because fans complain about a player doesn't mean they're rooting against him or that they want him to fail.
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seen this shit before back in the early 1990s.
Soon you'll have Giants fans actively rooting against Eli or Daniel just so they can appear to win an argument.
That's bullshit!
No one roots against Eli or any other Giants' player to win a BBI argument. No one!
Just because fans complain about a player doesn't mean they're rooting against him or that they want him to fail.
You underestimate people's lack of priorities
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seen this shit before back in the early 1990s.
Soon you'll have Giants fans actively rooting against Eli or Daniel just so they can appear to win an argument.
That's bullshit!
No one roots against Eli or any other Giants' player to win a BBI argument. No one!
Just because fans complain about a player doesn't mean they're rooting against him or that they want him to fail.
You underestimate people's lack of priorities
And you have ZERO clue as to the priorities of total strangers.
Just because someone (not me but I assume someone) has spent hours disagreeing with you about whether or not Eli has sucked for years, doesn't mean they're rooting against him.
Posters who have been deluding themselves claiming that Eli's still got it have also seemingly convicned themselves that anyone who disagrees with their take is a "hater", "not a good fan" and now apparently, someone who roots against Giants' players to win an argument.
It is time. Jones must start.
This team is going nowhere, they are 2 years away at least.
I was thinking the exact same thing!
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In comment 14578128 Eric from BBI said:
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seen this shit before back in the early 1990s.
Soon you'll have Giants fans actively rooting against Eli or Daniel just so they can appear to win an argument.
That's bullshit!
No one roots against Eli or any other Giants' player to win a BBI argument. No one!
Just because fans complain about a player doesn't mean they're rooting against him or that they want him to fail.
You underestimate people's lack of priorities
And you have ZERO clue as to the priorities of total strangers.
Just because someone (not me but I assume someone) has spent hours disagreeing with you about whether or not Eli has sucked for years, doesn't mean they're rooting against him.
Posters who have been deluding themselves claiming that Eli's still got it have also seemingly convicned themselves that anyone who disagrees with their take is a "hater", "not a good fan" and now apparently, someone who roots against Giants' players to win an argument.
You also have zero clue of the priorities as well. To act like it's impossible for people to put their own personal pride above something else is a bit nieve in my opinion. I never said it was absolutely true fans were doing what I have claimed. It's how I perceive certain respones, and because as people, we value being right too much.
Soon you'll have Giants fans actively rooting against Eli or Daniel just so they can appear to win an argument.
The argument is already won. Eli has been cooked for years.
"Get Eli a RB"
"Get Eli an offensive line"
"Get rid of the selfish diva"
We reached the point where the goal posts can't move anymore. He's got an OL, he's got the best RB in football, and he's got the blue collar, hardworking anonymous WR group everyone wanted.
What I saw back in 1991-1992 is now on steroids due to social media.
Which version? The one Britt predicted in 2018?
Or the one he predicted for this year?