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Britt in VA : 9/15/2019 4:25 pm
Eli was ineffective.

With the team playing this bad, Eli is ineffective and seemingly irrelevant to the outcomes of games.

I hesitate to put Jones in with these WR's, but there's nothing to lose at this point. This team is clearly going nowhere, so might as well get some meaningful game time in for Jones.

Put me in the start Jones camp. I'll still root for Manning as long as he's starting, but am ready to see what we have with Jones.

So come in and take your shots. There appears to be a certain level of glee happening right now, and I guess it's well deserved? Whatever. I want what's best for the Giants and that appears to me to be to get Jones in there now.

The team has no identity on offense or defense, but that's a whole other thread.
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RE: RE: Still going to throw my opinion into the hat like everybody else,  
Britt in VA : 9/16/2019 9:15 am : link
In comment 14579538 Gatorade Dunk said:
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and continue calling it like I see it, right, wrong, or indifferent.


If it's just a matter of your opinion, can we cut through the bullshit where you say things like "you're all just saying what you think the Giants should do but I'm saying what they WILL do"?

Because that's the nonsense that's infuriating, and quite honestly, who the fuck wants to be gleeful about being on the same side as this sorry bunch of decision makers that the Giants have?


Why? Why waste time talking/debating about fantasy scenarios that have less than a 1% chance of happening, like outright cuts and trades over the years. There would be hundreds of posts on threads bemoaning that the Giants should make moves with Manning that didn't make a lot of sense for either party, other than the fan making the argument.

And even now, I'm on board saying that they should go ahead and start Jones. However, I doubt they will yet.
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christian : 9/16/2019 9:22 am : link
Britt, in all seriousness, you're answering your own question here.

People post opinions to spur discussions.

That's different than a prediction, and certainly different than someone saying it's not worth discussing but it likely won't happen.
RE: RE: RE: Still going to throw my opinion into the hat like everybody else,  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/16/2019 9:28 am : link
In comment 14579556 Britt in VA said:
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and continue calling it like I see it, right, wrong, or indifferent.


If it's just a matter of your opinion, can we cut through the bullshit where you say things like "you're all just saying what you think the Giants should do but I'm saying what they WILL do"?

Because that's the nonsense that's infuriating, and quite honestly, who the fuck wants to be gleeful about being on the same side as this sorry bunch of decision makers that the Giants have?



Why? Why waste time talking/debating about fantasy scenarios that have less than a 1% chance of happening, like outright cuts and trades over the years. There would be hundreds of posts on threads bemoaning that the Giants should make moves with Manning that didn't make a lot of sense for either party, other than the fan making the argument.

And even now, I'm on board saying that they should go ahead and start Jones. However, I doubt they will yet.

Well, for one thing, because this is a discussion forum. And while I agree with you in general about some of the more outlandish suggestions, I'm talking more about the otherwise realistic scenarios that are only unrealistic when you stop to consider the dysfunctional front office and their history, especially their recent history.

But my POV has been that you have been, more often than not, a staunch defender of what they WILL do, because the status quo happened to also be aligned with what you were hoping they would do. I have to say, if there was ever something I was surprised to be wrong about, it's you being open to and even suggesting that it may be time for Jones.
Based on what has happened, what the Giants did  
Jimmy Googs : 9/16/2019 9:32 am : link
was an example of what not to do.
Glee, certainly not.  
NoGainDayne : 9/16/2019 9:33 am : link
I met my girlfriends family this weekend and they are also football fans.

In discussing this yet another bad showing I kind of shrugged and said I’m fairly indifferent to the result of this game, I have complicated relationship with the Giants right now.

I said it before the season and I’ll say it again. There is a fair degree of luck in football and also coaching can change things (like say if this staff could figure out hot to properly use the player they bucked analytical trends to draft) 7-9 or even 8-8 were possible ceilings for this team.

That being said, I think long term, those records vs where we seem to be headed would seem to me to be worse outcomes. The current leadership doesn’t even seem able to determine what a competent coach looks like. Their process appears to be broken. What’s worse is too many fans take any glimmer of how. Even finishing 4-4 last season against bad teams and backup QBs. For whatever reason Mara does seem to care lot about fans think.

It’s time to change leadership and for the fans to demand that. Even Daniel Jones being good doesn’t change the fact that other teams hit more often than we do and have for a long time. This the result of better decision making processes and better information.

I think many people need to say that we are sick of drinking the sour milk instead of these constant attempts by so many to tell the ones of us that have known what we are drinking it that maybe it hasn’t gone bad yet.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Still going to throw my opinion into the hat like everybody else,  
Britt in VA : 9/16/2019 9:34 am : link
In comment 14579603 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 14579538 Gatorade Dunk said:


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and continue calling it like I see it, right, wrong, or indifferent.


If it's just a matter of your opinion, can we cut through the bullshit where you say things like "you're all just saying what you think the Giants should do but I'm saying what they WILL do"?

Because that's the nonsense that's infuriating, and quite honestly, who the fuck wants to be gleeful about being on the same side as this sorry bunch of decision makers that the Giants have?



Why? Why waste time talking/debating about fantasy scenarios that have less than a 1% chance of happening, like outright cuts and trades over the years. There would be hundreds of posts on threads bemoaning that the Giants should make moves with Manning that didn't make a lot of sense for either party, other than the fan making the argument.

And even now, I'm on board saying that they should go ahead and start Jones. However, I doubt they will yet.


Well, for one thing, because this is a discussion forum. And while I agree with you in general about some of the more outlandish suggestions, I'm talking more about the otherwise realistic scenarios that are only unrealistic when you stop to consider the dysfunctional front office and their history, especially their recent history.

But my POV has been that you have been, more often than not, a staunch defender of what they WILL do, because the status quo happened to also be aligned with what you were hoping they would do. I have to say, if there was ever something I was surprised to be wrong about, it's you being open to and even suggesting that it may be time for Jones.


And see, that's the disconnect. I was ready to transition from Manning. Did I think Manning could still play? Yes. Did I think it was time to plan for the future? Yes. The idea that I wanted to start Manning forever was not really based in the reality of what I was saying, just people's perception of me and my take.

I cheered the pick on draft day. I was there in person in the streets of Nashville cheering when he took the stage. I wanted Jones.

I also want what's best for Jones. And in my opinion, it's a luxury to be able to sit your rookie QB while you get things stable around him before putting him in.

So even though I want Jones in now, I understand that they will probably wait until they get some receivers back in there to give him a chance for some success, not just some burn.
I don’t know if this is a compliment or not  
ajr2456 : 9/16/2019 9:38 am : link
But Brit was never Dep in the “Eli still has it”

His position was always they wouldn’t move on from him.
RE: I don’t know if this is a compliment or not  
Tesla : 9/16/2019 10:01 am : link
In comment 14579640 ajr2456 said:
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But Brit was never Dep in the “Eli still has it”

His position was always they wouldn’t move on from him.



Uh, no. He predicted an Eli Revenge Tour in 2018 and did so again this year. He predicted we'd go 10-6. He predicted dumping OBJ would make Eli a better QB cause Eli wouldn't have to force feed him the ball.

He's been the head cheerleader in the Eli still has it department. Much more so than even dep who was able to acknowledge Eli's decline over the past couple of years.
U mad, bro?  
Britt in VA : 9/16/2019 10:05 am : link
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RE: U mad, bro?  
Tesla : 9/16/2019 10:32 am : link
In comment 14579727 Britt in VA said:
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Wait, I thought I was "gleeful." Now I'm mad?

Which is it?
The floor is yours....  
Britt in VA : 9/16/2019 10:41 am : link
feel free to piss on graves and tapdance on misery all you like.
No one is tap dancing  
Les in TO : 9/16/2019 10:52 am : link
On misery or pissing on graves. We are all miserable Giants fans. We are busting your balls because of your bold and relentless “Eli isn’t part of the problem” stand and prediction people who said he is toast would eat poop eating sandwiches. Busting balls of a poster is not glee of the state of the franchise.
I don't understand how anyone could watch Eli last year, even in  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/16/2019 11:07 am : link
the second half of the season, and think he could still get it done. Britt kudos to you, not sure why you are still getting attacked. At least he offered a mea culpa unlike a bunch who have seemingly disappeared. Feel like we may hear from fanofthejets before some of them.
FMIC is just on his annual BBI sabbitacal in Gstaad  
ron mexico : 9/16/2019 11:12 am : link
Nothing to do with him being an ass all off season.
People that happy, gleeful and tapdancing  
Jimmy Googs : 9/16/2019 11:12 am : link
don't attack...
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christian : 9/16/2019 11:15 am : link
Britt, you've had this thread the last 2 years. The Giants get to a place where it's obvious the Manning + Giants combo isn't looking good, and you announce it's over or time to move on.

Serious question, if you don't actually want to discuss it, why do you post it?
RE: Still going to throw my opinion into the hat like everybody else,  
MookGiants : 9/16/2019 11:22 am : link
In comment 14579525 Britt in VA said:
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and continue calling it like I see it, right, wrong, or indifferent.


I really don't understand how anyone has watched Eli the last 3 years and thought he had anything left in the tank. Sure, we will all be wrong in our opinion at times, but there was zero evidence that Eli had 1 more good or even decent season in him.

I'm hoping people were just letting their feelings about Eli over his career cloud what Eli is currently. Because it's frightening that even one person thought he had something left.

Whoever is responsible for Manning still being on this team should be fired on the spot. It very well may be Mara who obviously can't be fired but if this was a Gettleman decision then he needs to go now.

It was so obvious that he was done. I refuse to believe that people actually thought he had something left, it had to be their respect for Eli and what he has done for this franchise. And that is fine to be a blind homer as a fan, but it's a problem when management is delusional.

I know we will have a lot of cap room next season, but I wouldn't trust Gettleman in free agency. He's done alright in the draft, but his trades and free agent signings have been awful.

The front office was trying to sell the fans and media on the Giants having a culture issue and getting rid of who they felt were bad eggs. The Giants don't have a culture issue, they have a lack of talent and horrible coaching/management issue.
Well, by posting it doesn't it mean I want to discuss it?  
Britt in VA : 9/16/2019 11:24 am : link
Not sure what you mean?

Last year I said it was clear that Manning could no longer win games for this franchise and it was time to transition from him, and that we should draft a QB if we were in position to grab one we liked.

Result? That is why I was happy we drafted Jones.

This year, I thought that Manning could win some games with what I hoped would be an improved roster and being the second year in a system, while not having to throw Jones into the fire too early. Pretty clear early now that that's not going to happen.

Result? This thread, and saying I'm ready to see Jones like everybody else.
Does anyone think that starting Jones would negatively affect our  
Heisenberg : 9/16/2019 11:26 am : link
chances to win games? I can't imagine anyone who believes that, at this point. I love Eli, he's the greatest QB in Giants history, but Jesus Christ it's fucking over.
The only issue I had with the defenders is that they were a very vocal  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/16/2019 11:37 am : link
minority that John Mara seemed terrified of upsetting. It is how we got in this situation to begin with. Ironically his biggest believers may have got ownership to stick with Eli for long enough to put his HOF credentials possibly in question.
i love eli and will always appreciate those superbowls  
nygiants16 : 9/16/2019 11:41 am : link
but it is just time to move in, his lack of mobility is hampering the entire offense...it kills half of the playbook necause he cant run straight play action from under center anymore, everything has to be shotgun..

The problem is the guy who makes the ultimate decision is to afraid to pull the trigger.
RE: Well, by posting it doesn't it mean I want to discuss it?  
Les in TO : 9/16/2019 11:41 am : link
In comment 14579979 Britt in VA said:
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Not sure what you mean?

Last year I said it was clear that Manning could no longer win games for this franchise and it was time to transition from him, and that we should draft a QB if we were in position to grab one we liked.

Result? That is why I was happy we drafted Jones.

This year, I thought that Manning could win some games with what I hoped would be an improved roster and being the second year in a system, while not having to throw Jones into the fire too early. Pretty clear early now that that's not going to happen.

Result? This thread, and saying I'm ready to see Jones like everybody else.
you started a thread but threw a left hook by saying posters are reacting with glee and insinuating they are happy the Giants are losing to support their positions. If you don’t want a counterpunch don’t attack in the first place. See your “media is hating on the Giants/they are going to use that as fuel” offseason thread where you also threw a jab at people who don’t think that matters much and then acted shocked when others disagreed.
Can you imagine dep on day like today?  
figgy2989 : 9/16/2019 11:47 am : link
I would be seriously concerned for his health.
And to answer the OP  
figgy2989 : 9/16/2019 11:50 am : link
Maybe I didn't see it because I haven't read the whole thread, but I do not see too many Giants fans in "glee" right now.

I mentioned it on another thread, but I do believe there are some posters who are more concerned with being right on on BBI then there are who are actually concerned with the state of the franchise. That is just sad.
RE: And to answer the OP  
crick n NC : 9/16/2019 11:52 am : link
In comment 14580050 figgy2989 said:
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Maybe I didn't see it because I haven't read the whole thread, but I do not see too many Giants fans in "glee" right now.

I mentioned it on another thread, but I do believe there are some posters who are more concerned with being right on on BBI then there are who are actually concerned with the state of the franchise. That is just sad.


I believe this what Britt was getting at.
RE: And to answer the OP  
Britt in VA : 9/16/2019 11:53 am : link
In comment 14580050 figgy2989 said:
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Maybe I didn't see it because I haven't read the whole thread, but I do not see too many Giants fans in "glee" right now.

I mentioned it on another thread, but I do believe there are some posters who are more concerned with being right on on BBI then there are who are actually concerned with the state of the franchise. That is just sad.


I was using the term glee to reference the enthusiastic way in which they were starting threads, responding to threads, some trolling behavior, etc...

Not glee as in yay Eli's finally done, but as in the delight in which they were jumping from thread to thread (or posting new threads) to point it out.
Yes, what crick said.  
Britt in VA : 9/16/2019 11:53 am : link
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RE: RE: And to answer the OP  
crick n NC : 9/16/2019 11:56 am : link
In comment 14580058 Britt in VA said:
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Maybe I didn't see it because I haven't read the whole thread, but I do not see too many Giants fans in "glee" right now.

I mentioned it on another thread, but I do believe there are some posters who are more concerned with being right on on BBI then there are who are actually concerned with the state of the franchise. That is just sad.



I was using the term glee to reference the enthusiastic way in which they were starting threads, responding to threads, some trolling behavior, etc...

Not glee as in yay Eli's finally done, but as in the delight in which they were jumping from thread to thread (or posting new threads) to point it out.


Unfortunately if it isn't explained in precise detail others interpret it to mean actual giddiness. Whether they pretend to not "get it" so they can argue I don't know.

I used "happiness", maybe satisfaction is a better term.
Responding to and starting threads after a loss?  
Jimmy Googs : 9/16/2019 12:03 pm : link
how dare they participate on BBI like that!

They should be working on their tap dancing or was that not said too?
That's how I feel about it.  
Britt in VA : 9/16/2019 12:04 pm : link
I don't really see the need to debate it.
Sarcasm aside...you both are just off base  
Jimmy Googs : 9/16/2019 12:07 pm : link
The overwhelming majority of Giant fans are either pissed, frustrated, embarrassed or done combination of them all.

Move onto next week...
Some  
Jimmy Googs : 9/16/2019 12:08 pm : link
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Britt  
bigbluehoya : 9/16/2019 12:09 pm : link
I commend you for kind of taking it on the chin in the OP.

It's a little odd that you'd be criticizing others for having some small sense of satisfaction, or even just 'told ya so', from being correct about the Giants being terrible. You've definitely been no stranger to the BBI victory lap when your predictions have come to fruition.

Regardless, this feeling of it still being September and looking like another year completely down the tubes is absolutely miserable, and it isn't bringing the best out of anyone. Somewhat understandably.
We all knew eventually people would be right about Eli  
widmerseyebrow : 9/16/2019 12:17 pm : link
not being good enough. It's just really frustrating that the front office never got it's act together after 2011 to see if he still had another run in him.

People were literally saying it was time for Eli to hang it up after 2013. I think he was probably still good enough to win then and a few years after if we had any kind of steady team building and drafting going on back then.
RE: Britt  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/16/2019 12:17 pm : link
In comment 14580125 bigbluehoya said:
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I commend you for kind of taking it on the chin in the OP.

It's a little odd that you'd be criticizing others for having some small sense of satisfaction, or even just 'told ya so', from being correct about the Giants being terrible. You've definitely been no stranger to the BBI victory lap when your predictions have come to fruition.

Regardless, this feeling of it still being September and looking like another year completely down the tubes is absolutely miserable, and it isn't bringing the best out of anyone. Somewhat understandably.

Yes, even the posters who are acting like they're taking the high road while their position begins to shift in what seems like our never-ending Eli debate here have been known to take their victory lap when the situation allows.

Like most people though, it's a lot easier to recognize someone else puffing out their chest than it is to be self-aware when they're doing it themselves.
RE: RE: Britt  
figgy2989 : 9/16/2019 12:18 pm : link
In comment 14580147 Gatorade Dunk said:
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Like most people though, it's a lot easier to recognize someone else puffing out their chest than it is to be self-aware when they're doing it themselves.



You are 100% right here...
Is what it is  
Thegratefulhead : 9/16/2019 12:19 pm : link
There is personal baggage being dealt with between aggrieved parties. Is what it is. Leaving that alone, it will rectify itself.

I have felt the evidence has been compelling enough that it was time to move on from Eli Manning since 2017. Not happy about it though. No glee. I would have been happy if Eli played so well it made this difficult.

I am excited by the thought of Daniel Jones starting. I think the players are too. I do not like the QB game manager. I don't. I like the QB to be a guy that when I receiver drops a pass he should catch that breaks the receivers's own heart. The QB says that was on me even thought it wasn't. He says I got you, and comes right back to him with absolutely perfect pass for a big play.

Eli used to carry us like that. He used to be able to pick up his teammates. He can't. It hurts to watch. Britt, honest.

I am sorry you see it now too. When you didn't, it felt like their was a chance the rest of us were wrong.

Daniel Jones might be the next great NY Giants QB. He sure is going to be following one hell of a player.



Christian...  
Overseer : 9/16/2019 12:47 pm : link
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Serious question, if you don't actually want to discuss it, why do you post it?

He posts it (and any number of other inanities) because he has a profoundly unhinged emotional attachment to Eli Manning. Plain as day.

Look at this dogshit post from the 3-13 season. Manning has a nice game in a losing effort vs Philadelphia and Britt immediately comes to BBI and embarrassingly emotes all over the place calling people “fucking idiots” and “dipshits”.

Why bring up a 2 year old (humiliating) thread? Because it’s the exact same tone – minus the vituperation – he has on this and any number of other threads. That’s who he is on BBI. A petulant emoter. He looked mildly less bad in comparison when dep was around, but they’re 2 peas from the same unenviable pod.

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There appears to be a certain level of glee happening right now

Wtf are you talking about? Glee? People are miserable. The Giants are an unwatchable catastrophe and have been basically for 7 years with 1 flukish reprieve thanks to ‘16 (regular season) Beckham. The Eagles – and now even Dallas – have made the NYG their pathetic helpless bitch. I still watch every snap, but cut down drastically on BBI in order to forget Mon-Sat about this dumpster fire of a team.

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U mad, bro?
Britt in VA : 10:05 am : link

Posting like a pissy adolescent playing Fortnite because he’s unable to maturely deal with having been wrong or with suffering Eli’s humiliating back end…which is brutal for any of us to watch. And it’s been years & years in the making (Wilson over Cordy Glenn, Sintim over Unger, Apple over Tunsil, Engram over Ramczyk). Overwhelmingly not Manning’s fault. The difference is Britt chooses to lash out like a baby in dealing with frustration.

Being a frequent poster here does not mean one is a good poster. Many make that mistake. “Oh I know that handle, he seems like a good guy, he’s ‘passionate’, he cares."

Personally I favor those who are sober, incisive, not “look at me!” (why couldn’t this thread go in the Post game thread?) over ongoing "come take your shots" petulance and helpless emoting. But that’s me.

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Here, by the way, is the reality vis-a-vis Eli Manning (understood by many):

He wasn’t done as an NFL quarterback on another team in a better situation with a real coach and real GM. He probably could have been a nice player in recent years still – and maybe lead a playoff team - on, say, Baltimore or Minnesota.

But on the Giants? A now flailing, pathetic franchise filled with untold incompetence and myopia that reaches for pedestrian mamas-boys over a highly touted LT? Eli Manning the spectacularly immobile QB on a team with no offensive line and no running game til SB and no 2-way Tight End (save 1yr MB) since Obama’s fucking first term and even that Tight End was just okay? That Eli Manning has been done for years. It was never going to work.

This will all get worse before it gets better. Strap in Giants fans.


Overseer  
figgy2989 : 9/16/2019 12:53 pm : link
That is a funny thread you put in there. Funny, two years later, the same exact arguments are being had with some of the same posters!
I'm certain I was not sober when I posted that thread...  
Britt in VA : 9/16/2019 12:56 pm : link
and I am certain that I was definitely venting or "emoting" when I did.

I can acknowledge that I was wrong in doing so.
Take a look at this one...  
Tesla : 9/16/2019 1:15 pm : link
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And I know I hit a nerve because of your reaction...
Britt in VA : 10/1/2017 8:05 pm : link
the only one that should be embarrassed is you, for wanting to run our HOF QB out of town.

You were wrong, you ARE wrong, period.


This is why you deserve 100% of the shit you are getting today Britt.

You're can be a real prick to others here when you think you've been proven right. And you can ever admit it when you're wrong. Revenge tour. 10-6. You were as wrong as wrong can be. Own it.
If the Giants make the move  
Sneakers O'toole : 9/16/2019 1:19 pm : link
I'd prefer waiting until week 5 ehen Tate comes back. Hopefully Shep is healthy as well.

Let Jones have some experience and reliability at the WR for his debut.
I literally just said I was wrong for that thread.  
Britt in VA : 9/16/2019 1:19 pm : link
One post above yours.

As for this season, my optimistic prediction of 10-6, etc...

Isn't this thread basically saying that was all wrong?
Eli should play  
weaverpsu : 9/16/2019 1:21 pm : link
against the Bucs and if they win, he keeps playing but will be on a short leash. The Cowboys and Bills have arguably top 10 defenses in the league and Eli had no one to throw to except scrubs. Shurmer is a fool. They should have had 2 TE's and been pounding the ball all game with Engram has a constant threat in passing game. Instead, they go shotgun and put 3-4 way below average receivers out there to make plays. A good coach plays his best players. Again, Saquon didn't get nearly enough touches and the short passing game not only doesn't suit Manning's ability, it seems to allow the defense to jump on first moves. There is no separation. The Bills were all over the short throws.

Also, Baker looks like a joke and here's to hoping its because they won't allow him to play man to man rather than being a draft bust.
Go ahead, hammer me relentlessly....  
Britt in VA : 9/16/2019 1:21 pm : link
pound the drum. Scream it from the mountaintop.

Today is yours. Have at it?
RE: Eli should play  
Britt in VA : 9/16/2019 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14580403 weaverpsu said:
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against the Bucs and if they win, he keeps playing but will be on a short leash. The Cowboys and Bills have arguably top 10 defenses in the league and Eli had no one to throw to except scrubs. Shurmer is a fool. They should have had 2 TE's and been pounding the ball all game with Engram has a constant threat in passing game. Instead, they go shotgun and put 3-4 way below average receivers out there to make plays. A good coach plays his best players. Again, Saquon didn't get nearly enough touches and the short passing game not only doesn't suit Manning's ability, it seems to allow the defense to jump on first moves. There is no separation. The Bills were all over the short throws.

Also, Baker looks like a joke and here's to hoping its because they won't allow him to play man to man rather than being a draft bust.


I think Manning plays at least until Sheppard is back, if not Sheppard AND Tate. Give Jones the most opportunity for success that way.
Britt....I only have one request for you...  
Tesla : 9/16/2019 1:24 pm : link
the next time you're right about something, don't be such a dick about it to the rest of BBI. That's all.
Overseer  
Les in TO : 9/16/2019 1:36 pm : link
Amen!
Just remember all of those that are "taking me to task".....  
Britt in VA : 9/16/2019 1:43 pm : link
Remember your own post histories and contributions.
Listen to the bell...it tolls for thee  
Jimmy Googs : 9/16/2019 3:33 pm : link
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