The shitty part about is that drafting a potential franchise QB essentially gives the coach and the GM a longer leash. But Shurmur is fucking 15 - 36 in his coaching career. Truly atrocious. How can you justify keeping around someone with that record? If we have another sub-5 win season, I can see us (as we should) going in another direction. My guess is Gettleman may have a "cooler" seat than Shurmur, for better or worse. If we're out of the playoff race and Jones looks lost, that may be all she wrote for both.
I can't see someone like Josh McDaniels coming here since he's bound to succeed Lil' Bill. My guess? Mara will want to revert back to going with the familiar and we'll probably hire John Fox. Ugh.
And we'll have to hear about Bill Cowher again...
It's the Giants way.
It's the Giants way.
Ah yes. All too familiar with that.
But that would require some serious out-of-the box thinking from a very stale organization glued to their ways...
My brother is almost convinced the team will go back to making a more "sure" appointment and will hire Mike Mccarthy as the next head coach. Dave Gettleman will remain as General Manger and the blame will be shifted onto Pat Shurmur for the failings of the team.
Interesting thought. Dallas's O looked very impressive last week. He's young, but he seemed to always be a step ahead of us last week.
But that would require some serious out-of-the box thinking from a very stale organization glued to their ways...
He isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
The LBs are the worst in the NFL. The absolute worst. I’m not sure any of them besides Cater would even make another roster let alone start.
Gettleman used #2, #3, #4, #5, #6 in this draft on 3 DBs. One who looks lost, undersized and under speed Baker. One who can’t even practice let alone play Beal and one who looks the part has the size and speed but the coaches won’t give him a chance yet Ballentine.
Whoever is surprised the Giants have a bottom 3 NFL defense hasn’t paid attention. On top of that the defense is horribly coached.
Of course the roster is better. They have a ton of 1st and 2nd year players. Do you think that teams change players and and magically just win. They had a whole pile of shit to discharge and replace, malcontents, under achievers, etc.
I know it is frustrating to watch these games, but you have to let these guys play.
I also think it is time to let Jones play and sit Eli. I think it may happen sooner than later after watching that lame performance today.
It's the Giants way.
And Chris Mara will get a promotion.
But that would require some serious out-of-the box thinking from a very stale organization glued to their ways...
They should back up the truck for Riley.
He isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Why? Things just that cushy and sweet in Norman?
There is no talent on this team. We have to have the slowest defense in the league.
If Tomlin shakes loose, I’d like that hire.
How is the DL better? Can’t agree there and the LB play is atrocious!
But that would require some serious out-of-the box thinking from a very stale organization glued to their ways...
Exactly who I was thinking of. I just wonder why he hasn’t gotten any NFL HC pub to date?
I know this roster is bad but Shurmur has shown zero evidence he’s an average coach let alone a good one.
Well said. Changing coaches without GM is for winning teams, not for teams that don't produce. 3 years. You could make the excuse doing after 2, but they have a rookie QB. That is why it is imperative he gets as much playing time as possible so they can't bullshit their way out of getting fired after year 3 if they miss the playoffs.
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You say "Gettleman has brought A LOT of talent to this team". Hope your a comedian because outside of the Dolphins the Giants might have the worst roster in the entire league. If you think the d-line is better now then when Gettleman arrived, I don't know what you're looking at. Vernon and Snacks are Aaron Donald and Reggie White compared to what are seeing now.
Of course the roster is better. They have a ton of 1st and 2nd year players. Do you think that teams change players and and magically just win. They had a whole pile of shit to discharge and replace, malcontents, under achievers, etc.
I know it is frustrating to watch these games, but you have to let these guys play.
I also think it is time to let Jones play and sit Eli. I think it may happen sooner than later after watching that lame performance today.
You're basing your statement that the roster is 'of course better' on what, exactly? Certainly not performance or wins.
Assuming they're better because they're unproven doesn't mean much. They could be every bit as bad, if not worse, than the guys they replaced.
Some posters here have given Gettleman a ton of credit - but outside of Barkley, where's the impact? Hernandez is a good player, but you should get a good player at the top of the 2nd round. BJ Hill has made a few plays, but so far this year he's been quiet. Beyond that - the rest of the drafted players haven't amounted to anything, and the FA acquisitions have been nothing short of disastrous.