Let me preface this by saying I'm a fan he won us 2 Super Bowls,And I win always love the guy for that along with the way he has represented the NY Giants and as a role model BUT he's done!
The guy has made a fortune including his 20 something million this year!
If he's ready Jones is the man it's his time to show us what he can do. Eli brings absolutely nothing to the table at this point. We all have eyes why are so many blind to this?
The one deep pass he completed was a floating lob luckily caught. We as fans deserve a shot at actually seeing some winning football again!
I'm hoping that Jones starts the Home Redskins game.
He hasn't been good for a few years now. It's not entirely on him, the team definitely had roster problems. He also wasn't good enough anymore to elevate the Giants to overcome some of those limitations, as he had in the past.
I would much rather have seen him go off with a winning campaign, with one last shot at performing up to his old level. At the end of the day, I think the Giants dysfunction and changes to the game have made him obsolete, and it's tough seeing him go out like this, regardless of what he's being paid.
I am not gonna throw him out there against the Vikings thats
for sure can we beat the Skins and the Bucks
if were 2-4 1-5 then Cardinals is the ideal spot 0-6 is
a no brainer
So at least they would have Tate Shepard and Slayton back
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As someone mentioned, lets wait until SS or Tate comeback. Neither are stud alpha receivers, but they do bring a lot to the table as slot/possession/route running guys to Shermur's dink and dunk offense.
Time to move on
As someone mentioned, lets wait until SS or Tate comeback. Neither are stud alpha receivers, but they do bring a lot to the table as slot/possession/route running guys to Shermur's dink and dunk offense.
0-2 doesn't necessarily mean season is toast. If they put me on the game vs Bills we would be 1-1, but its ojay because if they start me week 3 vs Buccs our winning streak begings. Dont be like Niners starting Garoplo with 0-9 season then Garoplo wins 6 str8. All that does is ruin you draft spot which they could of had Barkley
Time to move on
Pretty good analogy.
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And your an abysmal shit troll. This is no way shape or form Eli’s fault. Defense can’t stop shit but yep that’s all on Eli. Top 3 receivers out yep that’s his fault too. Shitty play calling it’s got to be him. Do I think he still has it not likely. I do think the time has come to play DJ probably as someone else mentioned when tateand shepherd returns but to say this is all on Eli is ridiculous and trolling. Btw mr sept 2019 what other handles were you and banned with?
Delusional much
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Time to move on
Pretty good analogy.
Can you read text from dead people?
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And your an abysmal shit troll. This is no way shape or form Eli’s fault. Defense can’t stop shit but yep that’s all on Eli. Top 3 receivers out yep that’s his fault too. Shitty play calling it’s got to be him. Do I think he still has it not likely. I do think the time has come to play DJ probably as someone else mentioned when tateand shepherd returns but to say this is all on Eli is ridiculous and trolling. Btw mr sept 2019 what other handles were you and banned with?
What was Elis QBR this game after 2 ints? Now what was my QBR in preseason after 0 ints?
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you're delusional.
And your an abysmal shit troll. This is no way shape or form Eli’s fault. Defense can’t stop shit but yep that’s all on Eli. Top 3 receivers out yep that’s his fault too. Shitty play calling it’s got to be him. Do I think he still has it not likely. I do think the time has come to play DJ probably as someone else mentioned when tateand shepherd returns but to say this is all on Eli is ridiculous and trolling. Btw mr sept 2019 what other handles were you and banned with?
So according to you it's never on Eli. Before it was oline and bad routes tip balls coaching and gm now oline better and it's the receivers and coaching. I am sure all QBs in football would love you as a fan
If the Giants lose next week, start DJ against Washington. Heck, I'm okay if they move to DJ in Tampa.
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you're delusional.
And your an abysmal shit troll. This is no way shape or form Eli’s fault. Defense can’t stop shit but yep that’s all on Eli. Top 3 receivers out yep that’s his fault too. Shitty play calling it’s got to be him. Do I think he still has it not likely. I do think the time has come to play DJ probably as someone else mentioned when tateand shepherd returns but to say this is all on Eli is ridiculous and trolling. Btw mr sept 2019 what other handles were you and banned with?
So according to you it's never on Eli. Before it was oline and bad routes tip balls coaching and gm now oline better and it's the receivers and coaching. I am sure all QBs in football would love you as a fan
Did I ever say he’s never at fault or he’s the savior or any of that? But to say this joke of team that’s trotted out there is just because Eli is the qb is just wrong.
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you're delusional.
And your an abysmal shit troll. This is no way shape or form Eli’s fault. Defense can’t stop shit but yep that’s all on Eli. Top 3 receivers out yep that’s his fault too. Shitty play calling it’s got to be him. Do I think he still has it not likely. I do think the time has come to play DJ probably as someone else mentioned when tateand shepherd returns but to say this is all on Eli is ridiculous and trolling. Btw mr sept 2019 what other handles were you and banned with?
you lose your mind and curse and I'm the troll. Nice one..
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you're delusional.
And your an abysmal shit troll. This is no way shape or form Eli’s fault. Defense can’t stop shit but yep that’s all on Eli. Top 3 receivers out yep that’s his fault too. Shitty play calling it’s got to be him. Do I think he still has it not likely. I do think the time has come to play DJ probably as someone else mentioned when tateand shepherd returns but to say this is all on Eli is ridiculous and trolling. Btw mr sept 2019 what other handles were you and banned with?
So according to you it's never on Eli. Before it was oline and bad routes tip balls coaching and gm now oline better and it's the receivers and coaching. I am sure all QBs in football would love you as a fan
Did I ever say he’s never at fault or he’s the savior or any of that? But to say this joke of team that’s trotted out there is just because Eli is the qb is just wrong.
you are replying to a comment that claimed Eli had no fault. So you agree with me, yet you are screaming at me...
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The next thing to be ecstatic about is that the offensive line was mediocre. It wasn't good by any stretch. It wasn't pushing to the second level on runs, pancaking defenders or the sort. At times, there was an okay pocket against minimal rushers. But like many olines in the league, it gave up pressures. Our OL also did a terrible job engaging the DL and not allowing them to get free hands up to block down passes.
The Giants offensive line then had to rely on a questionable Latimer, Benny Fowler, TJ Davis, and Something Gore to catch passes. Early in the game, they dropped easy passes. At no point in the game did it seem like they were beating their men for good separation.
On top of that, Shurmur is a conservative coach-- he's the type of guy that kicks extra points after scoring a TD to cut a 14 point lead to 8 in the 4th quarter.
Are there QBs who can do more with nothing around him than Eli has been able to do over the last several years? Of course. So give Daniel Jones a shot. I've wanted the Giants to part with Eli for years for everyone's sake. But this team is hot garbage.
Going back 8/9 years, you could probably count on one hand the number of games Eli had above-average offensive line play with a choice collection of big target, pass-catching weapons.
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And your an abysmal shit troll. This is no way shape or form Eli’s fault. Defense can’t stop shit but yep that’s all on Eli. Top 3 receivers out yep that’s his fault too. Shitty play calling it’s got to be him. Do I think he still has it not likely. I do think the time has come to play DJ probably as someone else mentioned when tateand shepherd returns but to say this is all on Eli is ridiculous and trolling. Btw mr sept 2019 what other handles were you and banned with?
So according to you it's never on Eli. Before it was oline and bad routes tip balls coaching and gm now oline better and it's the receivers and coaching. I am sure all QBs in football would love you as a fan
Did I ever say he’s never at fault or he’s the savior or any of that? But to say this joke of team that’s trotted out there is just because Eli is the qb is just wrong.
you are replying to a comment that claimed Eli had no fault. So you agree with me, yet you are screaming at me...
No you claimed this mess is because Eli is the qb which is ridiculous the only thing I’d agree with is he no longer is the answer but honestly who can win with this team? Easy answer nobody. If the defense wasn’t utterly abysmal I think Eli could win us some games
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And your an abysmal shit troll. This is no way shape or form Eli’s fault. Defense can’t stop shit but yep that’s all on Eli. Top 3 receivers out yep that’s his fault too. Shitty play calling it’s got to be him. Do I think he still has it not likely. I do think the time has come to play DJ probably as someone else mentioned when tateand shepherd returns but to say this is all on Eli is ridiculous and trolling. Btw mr sept 2019 what other handles were you and banned with?
So according to you it's never on Eli. Before it was oline and bad routes tip balls coaching and gm now oline better and it's the receivers and coaching. I am sure all QBs in football would love you as a fan
Did I ever say he’s never at fault or he’s the savior or any of that? But to say this joke of team that’s trotted out there is just because Eli is the qb is just wrong.
you are replying to a comment that claimed Eli had no fault. So you agree with me, yet you are screaming at me...
No you claimed this mess is because Eli is the qb which is ridiculous the only thing I’d agree with is he no longer is the answer but honestly who can win with this team? Easy answer nobody. If the defense wasn’t utterly abysmal I think Eli could win us some games
micky said: this is not Eli's fault
I said he was delusional
you said I was a filthy troll or something, then you said eli has some blame
so you agree with me, not the guy who said it is not Eli;s fault.
I never said it was all Eli's fault.
He's definitely not ready but now is the time to get him ready.
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And your an abysmal shit troll. This is no way shape or form Eli’s fault. Defense can’t stop shit but yep that’s all on Eli. Top 3 receivers out yep that’s his fault too. Shitty play calling it’s got to be him. Do I think he still has it not likely. I do think the time has come to play DJ probably as someone else mentioned when tateand shepherd returns but to say this is all on Eli is ridiculous and trolling. Btw mr sept 2019 what other handles were you and banned with?
So according to you it's never on Eli. Before it was oline and bad routes tip balls coaching and gm now oline better and it's the receivers and coaching. I am sure all QBs in football would love you as a fan
Did I ever say he’s never at fault or he’s the savior or any of that? But to say this joke of team that’s trotted out there is just because Eli is the qb is just wrong.
you are replying to a comment that claimed Eli had no fault. So you agree with me, yet you are screaming at me...
No you claimed this mess is because Eli is the qb which is ridiculous the only thing I’d agree with is he no longer is the answer but honestly who can win with this team? Easy answer nobody. If the defense wasn’t utterly abysmal I think Eli could win us some games
micky said: this is not Eli's fault
I said he was delusional
you said I was a filthy troll or something, then you said eli has some blame
so you agree with me, not the guy who said it is not Eli;s fault.
I never said it was all Eli's fault.
Then I apologize for misinterpreting you
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And your an abysmal shit troll. This is no way shape or form Eli’s fault. Defense can’t stop shit but yep that’s all on Eli. Top 3 receivers out yep that’s his fault too. Shitty play calling it’s got to be him. Do I think he still has it not likely. I do think the time has come to play DJ probably as someone else mentioned when tateand shepherd returns but to say this is all on Eli is ridiculous and trolling. Btw mr sept 2019 what other handles were you and banned with?
So according to you it's never on Eli. Before it was oline and bad routes tip balls coaching and gm now oline better and it's the receivers and coaching. I am sure all QBs in football would love you as a fan
Did I ever say he’s never at fault or he’s the savior or any of that? But to say this joke of team that’s trotted out there is just because Eli is the qb is just wrong.
you are replying to a comment that claimed Eli had no fault. So you agree with me, yet you are screaming at me...
No you claimed this mess is because Eli is the qb which is ridiculous the only thing I’d agree with is he no longer is the answer but honestly who can win with this team? Easy answer nobody. If the defense wasn’t utterly abysmal I think Eli could win us some games
micky said: this is not Eli's fault
I said he was delusional
you said I was a filthy troll or something, then you said eli has some blame
so you agree with me, not the guy who said it is not Eli;s fault.
I never said it was all Eli's fault.
Then I apologize for misinterpreting you
no worries. this has been a tough day for us.
By that point it will be clear to everyone that Eli is part of the problem and we will be past the point of no return.
Also it will hopefully get shurmur fired.
We're not taking a QB in 2020. Jones can look like Paxton Lynch and that ain't on the table.
They should play Jones now to see if that's on the table in 2022 though.
You don't give up on your top 10 pick, future starting QB, after a few games in his rookie season.
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You don't give up on your top 10 pick, future starting QB, after a few games in his rookie season.
you do what you have to do to win. Kyler Murray looked pretty good today
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he lead the league 4x with ints, its never his fault. I was trained by same coach and that coach even told me only reason Eli in NFL is his name.
Just think if they actually started a guy the last 10 years that deserved to play?? On merit, ya know?
BTW, you said you're more athletic than Eli in his prime? Are you available for a tryout?
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he lead the league 4x with ints, its never his fault. I was trained by same coach and that coach even told me only reason Eli in NFL is his name.
Just think if they actually started a guy the last 10 years that deserved to play?? On merit, ya know?
BTW, you said you're more athletic than Eli in his prime? Are you available for a tryout?
Billko, he thinks he's Daniel Jones
Every Qb could win with that broncos team. Peyton threw 9 TDS and 17 INT that year.
How many more games/seasons until it is his fault? I love what Eli has done but he’s been a bad qb for a awhile now.
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was drafted #6. Play him now and if he sucks then draft a QB with the pick we have in 2020. Stop waiting till everything is perfect. It is time to make a change. Or get ready for the 70's Giants but in a worse way.
You don't give up on your top 10 pick, future starting QB, after a few games in his rookie season.
you do what you have to do to win. Kyler Murray looked pretty good today
Actually Murray didn't look good today. 0 TDs, and a 58 QBR. They are also 0-1-1. They would have had the same record with Rosen, and would have had another #1 pick to help in another area. I think this was a really stupid move by the Cardinals
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How many more games/seasons until it is his fault? I love what Eli has done but he’s been a bad qb for a awhile now.
I know right. Tell me this in the past say four years, how many games have you watched and felt Eli would lead us to a win or even outplay the opposing qb. The answer is small. I don’t get this hope some have with Eli, don’t you feel like you deserve better from the most important position on the field
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He's definitely not ready but now is the time to get him ready.
I think he is ready by Shurmurs standards
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was drafted #6. Play him now and if he sucks then draft a QB with the pick we have in 2020. Stop waiting till everything is perfect. It is time to make a change. Or get ready for the 70's Giants but in a worse way.
You don't give up on your top 10 pick, future starting QB, after a few games in his rookie season.
you do what you have to do to win. Kyler Murray looked pretty good today
Actually Murray didn't look good today. 0 TDs, and a 58 QBR. They are also 0-1-1. They would have had the same record with Rosen, and would have had another #1 pick to help in another area. I think this was a really stupid move by the Cardinals
You realize this is malpractice with stats. Kyler is 2nd in yards this week going into the Sunday night game. That's right 2nd. he was 25-40 349 yards. Compare that to Jones who was 0-0 for 0 yards. Kyler has 90.5 Rating. Not bad for a second game What was Eli Manning's rating you ask? 62.3. In his second game he is better than Manning. Same number of completions and 100 more yards. And remember when Arizona was terrible and the giants were going 10-6 according to many here. Right now Zona is much better than us. Your opinion is it was a bad move? My opinion is it was a great move. Get the QB you need to build your franchise around, and play him.
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was drafted #6. Play him now and if he sucks then draft a QB with the pick we have in 2020. Stop waiting till everything is perfect. It is time to make a change. Or get ready for the 70's Giants but in a worse way.
You don't give up on your top 10 pick, future starting QB, after a few games in his rookie season.
you do what you have to do to win. Kyler Murray looked pretty good today
Actually Murray didn't look good today. 0 TDs, and a 58 QBR. They are also 0-1-1. They would have had the same record with Rosen, and would have had another #1 pick to help in another area. I think this was a really stupid move by the Cardinals
You realize this is malpractice with stats. Kyler is 2nd in yards this week going into the Sunday night game. That's right 2nd. he was 25-40 349 yards. Compare that to Jones who was 0-0 for 0 yards. Kyler has 90.5 Rating. Not bad for a second game What was Eli Manning's rating you ask? 62.3. In his second game he is better than Manning. Same number of completions and 100 more yards. And remember when Arizona was terrible and the giants were going 10-6 according to many here. Right now Zona is much better than us. Your opinion is it was a bad move? My opinion is it was a great move. Get the QB you need to build your franchise around, and play him.
Hell even Gardner Minshew is lighting it up, sixth round pick this year. He’s been better than Eli so far. To those who say Jones isn’t ready, stop it. Play him and let him learn from live bullets
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was drafted #6. Play him now and if he sucks then draft a QB with the pick we have in 2020. Stop waiting till everything is perfect. It is time to make a change. Or get ready for the 70's Giants but in a worse way.
You don't give up on your top 10 pick, future starting QB, after a few games in his rookie season.
you do what you have to do to win. Kyler Murray looked pretty good today
Actually Murray didn't look good today. 0 TDs, and a 58 QBR. They are also 0-1-1. They would have had the same record with Rosen, and would have had another #1 pick to help in another area. I think this was a really stupid move by the Cardinals
You realize this is malpractice with stats. Kyler is 2nd in yards this week going into the Sunday night game. That's right 2nd. he was 25-40 349 yards. Compare that to Jones who was 0-0 for 0 yards. Kyler has 90.5 Rating. Not bad for a second game What was Eli Manning's rating you ask? 62.3. In his second game he is better than Manning. Same number of completions and 100 more yards. And remember when Arizona was terrible and the giants were going 10-6 according to many here. Right now Zona is much better than us. Your opinion is it was a bad move? My opinion is it was a great move. Get the QB you need to build your franchise around, and play him.
Hell even Gardner Minshew is lighting it up, sixth round pick this year. He’s been better than Eli so far. To those who say Jones isn’t ready, stop it. Play him and let him learn from live bullets
Agree!