Let me preface this by saying I'm a fan he won us 2 Super Bowls,And I win always love the guy for that along with the way he has represented the NY Giants and as a role model BUT he's done!
The guy has made a fortune including his 20 something million this year!
If he's ready Jones is the man it's his time to show us what he can do. Eli brings absolutely nothing to the table at this point. We all have eyes why are so many blind to this?
The one deep pass he completed was a floating lob luckily caught. We as fans deserve a shot at actually seeing some winning football again!
I'm hoping that Jones starts the Home Redskins game.
you're delusional.
At the moment that seems unlikely. What s more likely is they will get a top 5 pick again in this year s draft
Those are reasons Jones should play sooner rather than later. But your premise that he will be more effective than Eli is probably not true, at least as it translates to wins.
Eli has taken significantly more snaps in the NFL and he’s fumbles twice in 2 games with 1 lost. Not sure I get your point.
The team needs better play than “not their fault” play.
It would be nice to see some “gave us a chance” play
Or some “hopeful for the future” play.
I actually agree with this. I have always said that Jones should start as soon as he is ready. Then they didn't give him more than one series in the 4th preseason game. Whereas Stidhama and Haskins all had major work. I took that as an alarm bell. If he's ready there is no excuse... But maybe they don't think he is ready.
How is he supposed to take more snaps Under center if he doesn’t get to play?
I could agree with that for the first game, but Eli easily sucked for the first half of the game. Then in the second half, he wasn't anything special.
If Jones isn't ready to even start (not asking him to win, just start), as the #6 pick in the NFL draft, then that's on Shurmur for terrible player development, and Gettleman for blowing the #6 overall pick.
Yeah. I doubt FMiC has “gone into hiding”.
Eli played pretty well last week. This week - ahd some bad throws, not sure how having reserves playing wr hurt the ofense
Says the guy who was nowhere to be found prior to Sept. 9th, 2019
This. Makes sense. And it will be easier to justify after the putrid defense loses a few more games.
Also Betcher needs to go. Playing DBs 10-15 yards off receivers. Yeah. We did that before. Got Tim Lewis canned. Same needs to be done w this clown
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If Jones isn't ready to even start (not asking him to win, just start), as the #6 pick in the NFL draft, then that's on Shurmur for terrible player development, and Gettleman for blowing the #6 overall pick.
could be. I think a QB taken that high needs to be ready by game 6.
So what if it’s not? What good does playing a 38 year old QB in the final year of his contract do for the long term future of this franchise?
I understand we don’t have receivers but every single play Eli makes is a step slow, it’s why balls are getting batted down and why receivers have zero room to run once they catch the ball (also the fact that they can’t get separation). It’s why he throws a screen a hair too fast under slight duress. He’s just not a great qb anymore and he isn’t giving you the best chance to win. Jones might be underrated because, lest we forget, his supporting cast in school was nowhere near what he’ll have in the pros. Idk when it’s going to happen, but the clock is certainly ticking on Eli and soon.
And Eli is not the reason we lost, but he’s one of many.
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The team needs better play than “not their fault” play.
It would be nice to see some “gave us a chance” play
Or some “hopeful for the future” play.
In a nutshell Yes! Thats the point. If Jones is ready and a big if-I'm all in at this point. axuuracy and ability to throw on run are two biggest reasons. I think they will move sooner than most people think and actually believe Shurmur wants him in now.
He hasn't been good for a few years now. It's not entirely on him, the team definitely had roster problems. He also wasn't good enough anymore to elevate the Giants to overcome some of those limitations, as he had in the past.
I would much rather have seen him go off with a winning campaign, with one last shot at performing up to his old level. At the end of the day, I think the Giants dysfunction and changes to the game have made him obsolete, and it's tough seeing him go out like this, regardless of what he's being paid.
I am not gonna throw him out there against the Vikings thats
for sure can we beat the Skins and the Bucks
if were 2-4 1-5 then Cardinals is the ideal spot 0-6 is
a no brainer
So at least they would have Tate Shepard and Slayton back
healthy .
As someone mentioned, lets wait until SS or Tate comeback. Neither are stud alpha receivers, but they do bring a lot to the table as slot/possession/route running guys to Shermur's dink and dunk offense.
Time to move on
As someone mentioned, lets wait until SS or Tate comeback. Neither are stud alpha receivers, but they do bring a lot to the table as slot/possession/route running guys to Shermur's dink and dunk offense.
0-2 doesn't necessarily mean season is toast. If they put me on the game vs Bills we would be 1-1, but its ojay because if they start me week 3 vs Buccs our winning streak begings. Dont be like Niners starting Garoplo with 0-9 season then Garoplo wins 6 str8. All that does is ruin you draft spot which they could of had Barkley
Time to move on
Pretty good analogy.
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And your an abysmal shit troll. This is no way shape or form Eli’s fault. Defense can’t stop shit but yep that’s all on Eli. Top 3 receivers out yep that’s his fault too. Shitty play calling it’s got to be him. Do I think he still has it not likely. I do think the time has come to play DJ probably as someone else mentioned when tateand shepherd returns but to say this is all on Eli is ridiculous and trolling. Btw mr sept 2019 what other handles were you and banned with?
Delusional much
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He doesn’t realize he’s dead
Time to move on
Pretty good analogy.
Can you read text from dead people?
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you're delusional.
And your an abysmal shit troll. This is no way shape or form Eli’s fault. Defense can’t stop shit but yep that’s all on Eli. Top 3 receivers out yep that’s his fault too. Shitty play calling it’s got to be him. Do I think he still has it not likely. I do think the time has come to play DJ probably as someone else mentioned when tateand shepherd returns but to say this is all on Eli is ridiculous and trolling. Btw mr sept 2019 what other handles were you and banned with?
What was Elis QBR this game after 2 ints? Now what was my QBR in preseason after 0 ints?
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you're delusional.
And your an abysmal shit troll. This is no way shape or form Eli’s fault. Defense can’t stop shit but yep that’s all on Eli. Top 3 receivers out yep that’s his fault too. Shitty play calling it’s got to be him. Do I think he still has it not likely. I do think the time has come to play DJ probably as someone else mentioned when tateand shepherd returns but to say this is all on Eli is ridiculous and trolling. Btw mr sept 2019 what other handles were you and banned with?
So according to you it's never on Eli. Before it was oline and bad routes tip balls coaching and gm now oline better and it's the receivers and coaching. I am sure all QBs in football would love you as a fan
If the Giants lose next week, start DJ against Washington. Heck, I'm okay if they move to DJ in Tampa.
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you're delusional.
And your an abysmal shit troll. This is no way shape or form Eli’s fault. Defense can’t stop shit but yep that’s all on Eli. Top 3 receivers out yep that’s his fault too. Shitty play calling it’s got to be him. Do I think he still has it not likely. I do think the time has come to play DJ probably as someone else mentioned when tateand shepherd returns but to say this is all on Eli is ridiculous and trolling. Btw mr sept 2019 what other handles were you and banned with?
So according to you it's never on Eli. Before it was oline and bad routes tip balls coaching and gm now oline better and it's the receivers and coaching. I am sure all QBs in football would love you as a fan
Did I ever say he’s never at fault or he’s the savior or any of that? But to say this joke of team that’s trotted out there is just because Eli is the qb is just wrong.
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you're delusional.
And your an abysmal shit troll. This is no way shape or form Eli’s fault. Defense can’t stop shit but yep that’s all on Eli. Top 3 receivers out yep that’s his fault too. Shitty play calling it’s got to be him. Do I think he still has it not likely. I do think the time has come to play DJ probably as someone else mentioned when tateand shepherd returns but to say this is all on Eli is ridiculous and trolling. Btw mr sept 2019 what other handles were you and banned with?
you lose your mind and curse and I'm the troll. Nice one..
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you're delusional.
And your an abysmal shit troll. This is no way shape or form Eli’s fault. Defense can’t stop shit but yep that’s all on Eli. Top 3 receivers out yep that’s his fault too. Shitty play calling it’s got to be him. Do I think he still has it not likely. I do think the time has come to play DJ probably as someone else mentioned when tateand shepherd returns but to say this is all on Eli is ridiculous and trolling. Btw mr sept 2019 what other handles were you and banned with?
So according to you it's never on Eli. Before it was oline and bad routes tip balls coaching and gm now oline better and it's the receivers and coaching. I am sure all QBs in football would love you as a fan
Did I ever say he’s never at fault or he’s the savior or any of that? But to say this joke of team that’s trotted out there is just because Eli is the qb is just wrong.
you are replying to a comment that claimed Eli had no fault. So you agree with me, yet you are screaming at me...
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The next thing to be ecstatic about is that the offensive line was mediocre. It wasn't good by any stretch. It wasn't pushing to the second level on runs, pancaking defenders or the sort. At times, there was an okay pocket against minimal rushers. But like many olines in the league, it gave up pressures. Our OL also did a terrible job engaging the DL and not allowing them to get free hands up to block down passes.
The Giants offensive line then had to rely on a questionable Latimer, Benny Fowler, TJ Davis, and Something Gore to catch passes. Early in the game, they dropped easy passes. At no point in the game did it seem like they were beating their men for good separation.
On top of that, Shurmur is a conservative coach-- he's the type of guy that kicks extra points after scoring a TD to cut a 14 point lead to 8 in the 4th quarter.
Are there QBs who can do more with nothing around him than Eli has been able to do over the last several years? Of course. So give Daniel Jones a shot. I've wanted the Giants to part with Eli for years for everyone's sake. But this team is hot garbage.
Going back 8/9 years, you could probably count on one hand the number of games Eli had above-average offensive line play with a choice collection of big target, pass-catching weapons.
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you're delusional.
And your an abysmal shit troll. This is no way shape or form Eli’s fault. Defense can’t stop shit but yep that’s all on Eli. Top 3 receivers out yep that’s his fault too. Shitty play calling it’s got to be him. Do I think he still has it not likely. I do think the time has come to play DJ probably as someone else mentioned when tateand shepherd returns but to say this is all on Eli is ridiculous and trolling. Btw mr sept 2019 what other handles were you and banned with?
So according to you it's never on Eli. Before it was oline and bad routes tip balls coaching and gm now oline better and it's the receivers and coaching. I am sure all QBs in football would love you as a fan
Did I ever say he’s never at fault or he’s the savior or any of that? But to say this joke of team that’s trotted out there is just because Eli is the qb is just wrong.
you are replying to a comment that claimed Eli had no fault. So you agree with me, yet you are screaming at me...
No you claimed this mess is because Eli is the qb which is ridiculous the only thing I’d agree with is he no longer is the answer but honestly who can win with this team? Easy answer nobody. If the defense wasn’t utterly abysmal I think Eli could win us some games
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you're delusional.
And your an abysmal shit troll. This is no way shape or form Eli’s fault. Defense can’t stop shit but yep that’s all on Eli. Top 3 receivers out yep that’s his fault too. Shitty play calling it’s got to be him. Do I think he still has it not likely. I do think the time has come to play DJ probably as someone else mentioned when tateand shepherd returns but to say this is all on Eli is ridiculous and trolling. Btw mr sept 2019 what other handles were you and banned with?
So according to you it's never on Eli. Before it was oline and bad routes tip balls coaching and gm now oline better and it's the receivers and coaching. I am sure all QBs in football would love you as a fan
Did I ever say he’s never at fault or he’s the savior or any of that? But to say this joke of team that’s trotted out there is just because Eli is the qb is just wrong.
you are replying to a comment that claimed Eli had no fault. So you agree with me, yet you are screaming at me...
No you claimed this mess is because Eli is the qb which is ridiculous the only thing I’d agree with is he no longer is the answer but honestly who can win with this team? Easy answer nobody. If the defense wasn’t utterly abysmal I think Eli could win us some games
micky said: this is not Eli's fault
I said he was delusional
you said I was a filthy troll or something, then you said eli has some blame
so you agree with me, not the guy who said it is not Eli;s fault.
I never said it was all Eli's fault.