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2 weeks in...where are the possible wins on this schedule?

bw in dc : 9/15/2019 6:39 pm
Can we split with the Skins with a home win?

Do we feel good because a young Arizona team that will have to travel east for a 1pm game?

Other than that, we shouldn’t be favored in any remaining games now. Right?

So are we on a collision course for a possible two win season??
I sort of watched AZ on TV  
Bill in UT : 9/15/2019 6:45 pm : link
today as I was streaming the Giants. Not saying I studied the game, but my impressions were that Murray was making some good throws to a buch of different receivers. Couldn't do anything in the Red Zone, tho. Looked like Fitz had a nice game, Kirk also. Also, the D was really swarming to the ball like I haven't seen in a few years. Could be a real competitive game rather than an easy win for NYG
Unless there is a dramatic turnaround  
GiantEgo : 9/15/2019 6:45 pm : link
This defense cannot win an NFL game.
We'll beat the Dolphins.  
FStubbs : 9/15/2019 6:45 pm : link
Right now we're worse than every other team on our schedule.
I think this ends up being a 2-3 win year...  
The_Boss : 9/15/2019 6:46 pm : link
Prolly split with DC...Arizona..Miami...
The Giants might go 1-15  
Matt in SGS : 9/15/2019 6:47 pm : link
and pick #2 behind the Dolphins.
Miami is the only team that is worse  
Justlurking : 9/15/2019 6:47 pm : link
Everything else will be an upset. Kyler will hang 50 against this D.
defense played better in second half  
bc4life : 9/15/2019 6:48 pm : link
hopefully Shepard and Tate coming back will help. and hoping Skipper adds soemting to pass rush. We don't have a stud edge rusher, so it will have to be a sum of all the parts approach.

Can beat Tampa, Minnesota will be a tough game
I had thought of taking my sons to the AZ game only because  
jcn56 : 9/15/2019 6:48 pm : link
my youngest has been after me. I figured AZ would be a lock, right?

Now, not so much.
I don't follow AZ as closely as I do  
Bill in UT : 9/15/2019 6:53 pm : link
the Giants, but I get all the games on TV. I thought the personnel last year was horrible (their OL was probably worse than the Giants) and it didn't look like they had a great draft. But they've surprised me. Nice come from behind tie last week, and they played with a lot of heart today. Not a great team, but on any given Sunday....
The good news is  
JonC : 9/15/2019 6:56 pm : link
NYG could be in draft position to get a blue chip edge rusher.
Right now, this is a...  
M.S. : 9/15/2019 7:05 pm : link

...4-win team.

Who cares where they come from?
Forgot about Miami...  
bw in dc : 9/15/2019 7:07 pm : link
and it’s at home.

Is it out of the realm of possibilities that game could be two teams looking for their first win?
I thought this was a 7 win team  
justafan : 9/15/2019 7:15 pm : link
with Buffalo being one of the wins. It was nice to see the defense get some pressure and sacks today and the defense tighten up in the 2nd half. With that said, this is not a 7 win team. I was wrong. I thought we'd beat Tampa as well, but I am probably wrong there too. Gonna be a rough year.

Get DJ in and plan for next year. We should be able to grab a good WR, ILB, or edge or whatever in the first round.
RE: Forgot about Miami...  
FStubbs : 9/15/2019 7:16 pm : link
In comment 14578381 bw in dc said:
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and it’s at home.

Is it out of the realm of possibilities that game could be two teams looking for their first win?


I don't know if the league has ever had two 0-13 teams play each other.
RE: The good news is  
FStubbs : 9/15/2019 7:17 pm : link
In comment 14578334 JonC said:
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NYG could be in draft position to get a blue chip edge rusher.


And Gettleman would draft a center.
RE: The good news is  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/15/2019 7:18 pm : link
In comment 14578334 JonC said:
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NYG could be in draft position to get a blue chip edge rusher.


Be dung for Young


I think we just found our new slogan.
It's early  
MookGiants : 9/15/2019 7:19 pm : link
but there might be a couple blue chip players at DE, WR and OT in this draft. Giants need all 3.
Dad and I are Giants fans  
Jersey Heel : 9/15/2019 7:23 pm : link
My brother is a Dolphins fan. We’ve had that game circled on the calendar to see in person. We didn’t want to commit to buying tickets, figuring the value will go down as we both stink up the place. At this rate, someone will pay us to go to the game.
JonC / Mook  
Sean : 9/15/2019 7:30 pm : link
I know both of you advocate the need to draft high, but I’ve got to say - we’ve been brutal for 6 years and the roster still sucks.
RE: JonC / Mook  
The_Boss : 9/15/2019 7:40 pm : link
In comment 14578455 Sean said:
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I know both of you advocate the need to draft high, but I’ve got to say - we’ve been brutal for 6 years and the roster still sucks.


At the rate we’re going, maybe we get to Dallas and Philly’s level in 3-4 years...gotta hope Barkley is still a top performer by then...
Only Team In the League Worse Than the Giants  
Bernie : 9/15/2019 7:43 pm : link
Is Miami and they're tanking. 2-14 would be a minor miracle this year.
Jon...  
ryanmkeane : 9/15/2019 8:09 pm : link
I get that getting a blue chip pass rusher is cool. But there are about 19 other problems with this team. We’ve all been talking about the ER and this mysterious player that the team hasn’t been able to get and somehow that will make us a good team.

This team sucks. The coaching sucks, the GM’s strategy so far, while he has made some really nice draft picks, was to keep playing out below average declining QB for 2 seasons. We are currently the laughingstock of the NFL. It’s time to just realize that we are just a bad, bad, bad team. And it may take years for us to be good again.
RE: Jon...  
FStubbs : 9/15/2019 8:11 pm : link
In comment 14578560 ryanmkeane said:
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I get that getting a blue chip pass rusher is cool. But there are about 19 other problems with this team. We’ve all been talking about the ER and this mysterious player that the team hasn’t been able to get and somehow that will make us a good team.

This team sucks. The coaching sucks, the GM’s strategy so far, while he has made some really nice draft picks, was to keep playing out below average declining QB for 2 seasons. We are currently the laughingstock of the NFL. It’s time to just realize that we are just a bad, bad, bad team. And it may take years for us to be good again.


I'm hoping it's sooner than that, because if we're talking 2022 or 2023 before we're good again, then you have to seriously consider trading Barkley.
Fstubbs  
ryanmkeane : 9/15/2019 8:13 pm : link
We won’t be good again until we change the entire coaching staff, and it looks like Shurmur won’t be fired after this year no matter what. So let’s say he gets canned after 2020 season, then we start all over again in 2021. Maybe make the playoffs that year? Probably not. I think 2022-2023 is about right.
Yes, because Eli isn’t the future..  
Sean : 9/15/2019 8:14 pm : link
Eli is 38. We all wish he could have went out competing for division titles, but it isn’t the case.

Even at 0-2, the first time Jones extends a play and coverts a 3rd down, the entire mood of the fan base will change. This fan base desperately needs some hope & Jones could represent that.
RE: Fstubbs  
Sean : 9/15/2019 8:15 pm : link
In comment 14578567 ryanmkeane said:
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We won’t be good again until we change the entire coaching staff, and it looks like Shurmur won’t be fired after this year no matter what. So let’s say he gets canned after 2020 season, then we start all over again in 2021. Maybe make the playoffs that year? Probably not. I think 2022-2023 is about right.


Shurmur won’t be canned no matter what? Why speak in absolutes?

He’s 5-13 as NYG coach. McAdoo got fired after going 11-5 his rookie year.
There aren’t any  
bradshaw44 : 9/15/2019 8:24 pm : link
.
RE: The good news is  
micky : 9/15/2019 8:24 pm : link
In comment 14578334 JonC said:
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NYG could be in draft position to get a blue chip edge rusher.


Or rack up draft picks for a team(s) wanting to move up for a strong qb class
RE: RE: Fstubbs  
Jim in Tampa : 9/15/2019 8:25 pm : link
In comment 14578571 Sean said:
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In comment 14578567 ryanmkeane said:


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We won’t be good again until we change the entire coaching staff, and it looks like Shurmur won’t be fired after this year no matter what. So let’s say he gets canned after 2020 season, then we start all over again in 2021. Maybe make the playoffs that year? Probably not. I think 2022-2023 is about right.



Shurmur won’t be canned no matter what? Why speak in absolutes?

He’s 5-13 as NYG coach. McAdoo got fired after going 11-5 his rookie year.

I agree that no one should speak in absolutes, but the McAdoo situation was a lot different.

McAdoo had a disasterous second year and lost the team. Plus Mara needed heads to roll for the Eli botched benching and he couldn't very well fire himself.
A guarantee......  
thrunthrublue : 9/15/2019 9:10 pm : link
This team will not lose, in the bye week.
RE: RE: Fstubbs  
Jesse B : 9/15/2019 9:20 pm : link
In comment 14578571 Sean said:
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In comment 14578567 ryanmkeane said:


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We won’t be good again until we change the entire coaching staff, and it looks like Shurmur won’t be fired after this year no matter what. So let’s say he gets canned after 2020 season, then we start all over again in 2021. Maybe make the playoffs that year? Probably not. I think 2022-2023 is about right.



Shurmur won’t be canned no matter what? Why speak in absolutes?

He’s 5-13 as NYG coach. McAdoo got fired after going 11-5 his rookie year.


Got fired for benching Eli
Wins are usually related to playing against  
Jimmy Googs : 9/15/2019 9:54 pm : link
backup QBs.

Find the backup and you may find the win...
RE: RE: The good news is  
Nine-Tails : 9/15/2019 10:33 pm : link
In comment 14578593 micky said:
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In comment 14578334 JonC said:


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NYG could be in draft position to get a blue chip edge rusher.



Or rack up draft picks for a team(s) wanting to move up for a strong qb class


I love the idea of trading down. But if we're top 3, I dont want to trade down so far that we miss out on guys like Young, Espinosa, Thomas, and Jeudy. A trade the colts did it what rams did in the rg3 trade is ideal. Stay in blue chip talent territory and get extra assets
This team hasn’t shown enough to count  
Mike from Ohio : 9/16/2019 12:00 am : link
Any game as a win this season. The Giants may be better than the dolphins. They may not be. There is certainly no game this year - as of now - that anyone should think the Giants should win.
There must be 10 of them out there somewhere....  
Tesla : 9/16/2019 12:09 am : link
because half this board predicted we'd go 10-6 before the season started.

10-6....ROFL.

10-6, and it was a media conspiracy that we were ranked 31st in the league on ESPN. LOL.
RE: There must be 10 of them out there somewhere....  
AndyMilligan : 9/16/2019 12:14 am : link
In comment 14579208 Tesla said:
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because half this board predicted we'd go 10-6 before the season started.

10-6....ROFL.

10-6, and it was a media conspiracy that we were ranked 31st in the league on ESPN. LOL.

hahahahahahahahhahahahahaha.. so many said 10-6. soooo many thought you get rid of OBJ and that equals victories.

They get along now, they said, no cancer.. all you have to do to start winning is get the cancer.
AZ is going to pass all over NYG's D unless something drastic changes  
ChaChing : 9/16/2019 12:32 am : link
Their 2 best WRs are heavy in the slot in Fitz & Kirk. And they have some decent guys down the line like the rook KJohnson. NYG run D is maybe their best quality if anything, yet if DJohnson is healthy...assuming they contain KM

If I had him in FF, I'd be very very happy that week. Really, my FF streaming strategy will always consider who is playing MIA or NYG among a handful of other teams
Maybe if they are lucky  
Les in TO : 9/16/2019 5:44 am : link
They play a couple of backup QBs giving them 4 wins
ryan  
JonC : 9/16/2019 10:00 am : link
Got to keep moving forward accumulating talent. At this stage, talent is a problem all over the defense and the passing game, as predicted.
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