He is exactly at 500 now. I can’t think of any plausible way he goes 500 or better before the transition.
If he plays the rest of the year, no way this team is going 7-7 or better.
If jones comes in before the end of the season, it will mean they have gone below 500 from here.
If this is the case that Mara has made it so Manning is keeping his job no matter what, shouldn't the fans turn on Mara? Is Eli supposed to just give up the job?
Seems like frustration targeted at the wrong individual. At the same time, are the fans somewhat responsible for how they acted during the geno smith debacle that supposedly has caused Mara to be stubborn in regards to manning?
I guess he just loves to play the game.
“Eli fanboys” ? Like it’s a crime to be a fan of your own QB...sad
Seems to be totally against his character, but carry on.
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and it's also on John Mara when the fan base completely turns on his golden boy because Mara is too loyal to take him out when it was his time. Mara, Mara, Mara.
If this is the case that Mara has made it so Manning is keeping his job no matter what, shouldn't the fans turn on Mara? Is Eli supposed to just give up the job?
Seems like frustration targeted at the wrong individual. At the same time, are the fans somewhat responsible for how they acted during the geno smith debacle that supposedly has caused Mara to be stubborn in regards to manning?
A few of us were calling bullshit on Mara’s it’s the coaches decision spiel , but got shouted down.
You are right, Eli can’t bench himself, he is not doing anything wrong. He is just done being a difference maker at QB.
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The Eli fanboys will blame everyone and anything but Eli. But on his total record he was an average QB. The first seven years he was above average the last eight at or below average.
“Eli fanboys” ? Like it’s a crime to be a fan of your own QB...sad
Keep him talking. When the sunlight hits, he turns to stone.
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The Eli fanboys will blame everyone and anything but Eli. But on his total record he was an average QB. The first seven years he was above average the last eight at or below average.
“Eli fanboys” ? Like it’s a crime to be a fan of your own QB...sad
Every thread all this Les guy does is bash Eli. Its like Eli hit on his wife. Its a disorder at this point
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and it's also on John Mara when the fan base completely turns on his golden boy because Mara is too loyal to take him out when it was his time. Mara, Mara, Mara.
If this is the case that Mara has made it so Manning is keeping his job no matter what, shouldn't the fans turn on Mara? Is Eli supposed to just give up the job?
Seems like frustration targeted at the wrong individual. At the same time, are the fans somewhat responsible for how they acted during the geno smith debacle that supposedly has caused Mara to be stubborn in regards to manning?
A few of us were calling bullshit on Mara’s it’s the coaches decision spiel , but got shouted down.
You are right, Eli can’t bench himself, he is not doing anything wrong. He is just done being a difference maker at QB.
Ron, I don't remember much about those conversations. I will say it's really difficult to prove Mara's intentions . It seems the conversation should go fine as long as neither side is pushing their opinions as facts. Neither side is unreasonable in my view.
It’s not his job to think of the future of the franchise.
Eli's only chance to play was dependent on wins. Period. Right now the Giants are clearly behind Dallas and Philly in the NFC East. And in 2 weeks we'll see where they stack up against the Redskins
Even if Eli was playing well and the Giants were losing because of bad defense, they have to consider sitting him for the good of the future of this team. But Eli is playing pretty much as he's played the past few years. He looks good on an early drive. Doesn't do anything for long stretches, where the offense bogs down either because of him or something else. The team falls behind. Eli gets a late drive in and around garbage time and they lose.
I'm just disgusted that we sit here, 2 weeks into the season, and the "here we go again" shit is here. I fully expect to lose in Tampa next week. Give me something to look forward to. Let Jones play, let him make mistakes and let's see by November and December that he's playing well, and maybe picking off a team like Dallas or Philly late in the year.
Honestly, if Shurmur wants to save his own ass, you get Jones in the games. Ownership is going to look the other way and explain away losses if you are getting the kid experience.
At this point, I'm black and white with Eli. If they don't win next week and go to 0-3, it's time hand the team over to Jones.
Even though I really want to move one, this sting because its true
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The Eli fanboys will blame everyone and anything but Eli. But on his total record he was an average QB. The first seven years he was above average the last eight at or below average.
“Eli fanboys” ? Like it’s a crime to be a fan of your own QB...sad
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This is so true. Manning will not be going out a hero. It's a shame.
We are one injury to one player away from being absolutely hopeless - send help now please
I guess he just loves to play the game.
You know this how?
Jones is supposed to be the future so Gettleman might as well start fielding trade offers.
He’s had a good career, two unforgettable playoff runs, a good stretch of competitive football. He’s not an all time great or anything, he’s not a sure Hall of Famer.
Love the guy but the record speaks for itself.
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The Eli fanboys will blame everyone and anything but Eli. But on his total record he was an average QB. The first seven years he was above average the last eight at or below average.
“Eli fanboys” ? Like it’s a crime to be a fan of your own QB...sad
It is when you're more of a fan of the player and not the team.
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and it's also on John Mara when the fan base completely turns on his golden boy because Mara is too loyal to take him out when it was his time. Mara, Mara, Mara.
If this is the case that Mara has made it so Manning is keeping his job no matter what, shouldn't the fans turn on Mara? Is Eli supposed to just give up the job?
Seems like frustration targeted at the wrong individual. At the same time, are the fans somewhat responsible for how they acted during the geno smith debacle that supposedly has caused Mara to be stubborn in regards to manning?
A few of us were calling bullshit on Mara’s it’s the coaches decision spiel , but got shouted down.
You are right, Eli can’t bench himself, he is not doing anything wrong. He is just done being a difference maker at QB.
He may not be doing anything wrong but what the hell is he doing right? 65% completion when it doesn't matter, 1 TD per game?
But time to move on. DJ needs the EXP and we are going no where fast with ol' Eli.
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The Eli fanboys will blame everyone and anything but Eli. But on his total record he was an average QB. The first seven years he was above average the last eight at or below average.
“Eli fanboys” ? Like it’s a crime to be a fan of your own QB...sad
LOL...It really is an ignorant fucked up way to root for your team. But Les has always been an idiotic fan
Jones is supposed to be the future so Gettleman might as well start fielding trade offers.
Eli has no trade value.
Eli is a. 500 quarterback and no matter how you spin it , he deserves much of the responsibility