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Too early to consider Baker a bust?

JoiseyGiants : 9/15/2019 8:55 pm
He looks lost out there, why is he always in off coverage and giving free releases. He was considered a press man corner. All i ever see is him trailing receivers.
Much  
AcidTest : 9/15/2019 8:56 pm : link
too early.
You  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2019 8:56 pm : link
are seriously asking if eight quarters of football is too early?
Yes  
AcesUp : 9/15/2019 8:57 pm : link
. Would be cool if he was better now but 100% yes.
Omg  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/15/2019 8:57 pm : link
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If you want to declare him a bust, there are a ton of all pro players  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/15/2019 8:58 pm : link
that have struggled through the first half of their rookie season.
No not too early  
pjcas18 : 9/15/2019 8:58 pm : link
two games is usually all it takes to reach a final conclusion on any football player.
Yes  
Les in TO : 9/15/2019 8:59 pm : link
Corey Webster was bad his first couple of years until the light switch turned on and he was surrounded by veteran mentors like Madison mcquarters etc
anyone remember Mark Haynes?  
BillKo : 9/15/2019 9:02 pm : link
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stupidity  
PaulBlakeTSU : 9/15/2019 9:02 pm : link
knows no bounds
Way too early  
Rjanyg : 9/15/2019 9:03 pm : link
But I will say that his strength is not being utilized. He is more of a press man CB, they seem to be asking him to play very soft zone. Not sure why, maybe he is still nursing an injury.

As mentioned before, Webster was pretty bad for about 2 1/2 seasons, then turned into a stud. Patience.
RE: Yes  
BillKo : 9/15/2019 9:03 pm : link
In comment 14578699 Les in TO said:
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Corey Webster was bad his first couple of years until the light switch turned on and he was surrounded by veteran mentors like Madison mcquarters etc


Webster was one of the more remarkable turnarounds to be honest.

Sometimes you'll see a guy to a diff team and respond, but Webster seemed to have the light bulb literally go on overnight.
Banks said it  
Matt in SGS : 9/15/2019 9:05 pm : link
Bettcher isn't doing anyone on this defense any favors. These young guys are clueless trying to figure out what they are doing and Baker is lost. He needs to simplify the defense and let these guys learn how to play at the NFL level without confusing the shit out of them.

And Bethea was supposed to be a coach on the field to help settle this down. Through 2 games, it's not working.
RE: You  
giantstock : 9/15/2019 9:12 pm : link
In comment 14578688 Eric from BBI said:
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are seriously asking if eight quarters of football is too early?


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September 2019  
Mr. Bungle : 9/15/2019 9:17 pm : link
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would anyone be surprised if these young guys  
markky : 9/15/2019 9:36 pm : link
start playing well mid-season? i wouldn't.
The guy was known coming out  
Leg of Theismann : 9/15/2019 9:40 pm : link
For his terrific man coverage. So what do the Giants do? Put him in zone coverage. I have no idea why we traded 2 picks to move up for this guy considering it wasn’t even a scheme fit and there were a ton of other similarly-rated CBs still on the board at the point they traded up for him. Makes no sense. It’s like Gettleman traded up simply because he had planned on doing so at some point and had the picks to make the move.
RE: anyone remember Mark Haynes?  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/15/2019 9:44 pm : link
BillKo said:
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Or Corey Webster? Took nearly three years before the lightbulb turned on. Hell, Sehorn did nothing for two years.
Since you created a login today,  
Mendenhall64 : 9/15/2019 9:51 pm : link
is it too early to early to consider you a dope?
Way too early  
Breeze_94 : 9/15/2019 9:55 pm : link
but to put it lightly, he has stunk through the first 2 games.

Some of it is scheme...why they have him playing 15 yards off on 3rd and medium is beyond me. Why they have him playing off period doesn't make sense. He was a press man corner in college.

I think he did pull it together a bit in the 2nd half because he was on track to give up about 300 yards after the first half.

You can tell he is thinking too much and not playing with any confidence.
Cooper/Gallup may be flat out studs  
AcesUp : 9/15/2019 9:57 pm : link
And John Brown is probably the worst matchup for his skillset, so let's wait and see. But he definitely needs to be better.
Yes its too early  
Jimmy Googs : 9/15/2019 9:58 pm : link
saw him play well a bunch at Georgia, but not sure who this player is.

Maybe Giants have a culture issue that is affecting his play...
This is like...  
bw in dc : 9/15/2019 9:59 pm : link
declaring Jones the savior after a few batting practice sessions.
This thread is a bust  
ChaChing : 9/15/2019 10:01 pm : link
if not just an awful reach
Mark Haynes? Corey Webster?  
Vanzetti : 9/15/2019 10:12 pm : link
You guys must be high

Baker does not have the tools of those guys, not even close.
RE: stupidity  
Blueblue : 9/15/2019 10:28 pm : link
In comment 14578710 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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knows no bounds


Well said
Excellent point about Mark Haynes  
No Where Man : 9/15/2019 10:31 pm : link
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Two words  
lawguy9801 : 9/15/2019 10:32 pm : link
Corey Webster...was a “bust” until the light turned on.

The kid is a talent....give him a chance.
Man,  
Photoguy : 9/15/2019 10:49 pm : link
sometimes this board makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a fork.
Baker was awful today and last week  
Mike from Ohio : 9/15/2019 11:50 pm : link
But is he a bust after two games???

That is just an idiotic question.
His speed is a concern.  
Gmen703 : 9/15/2019 11:58 pm : link
But CB is tough. I hope he's mentally prepared for it.
You have to wonder  
Modzelewski : 9/16/2019 12:41 am : link
If he wasn't a first round pick, how much of a shorter leash he'd be on. Because he's been awful.
Question  
Tim in VA : 9/16/2019 8:29 am : link
Is Baker the only defensive player sucking? The whole team is underperforming. Who shoulders the blame when an entire defense is lost and unprepared?
It's not too early to bench him  
Rudy5757 : 9/16/2019 9:28 am : link
He didnt earn his spot, it was handed to him. Maybe he is not fully healed but he is not ready to be a starter. Can't call him a bust but he missed the important part of camp and we are throwing him to the wolves.
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