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NY-Fan : 9/15/2019 9:20 pm
Did I miss this thread? Anyway Jones is so good.
Oh look. QB that actually understands how passing  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/15/2019 9:25 pm : link
lanes work!
Giants donít even attempt  
Rflairr : 9/15/2019 9:32 pm : link
To throw the ball downfield like that
Wentz is hurt  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/15/2019 9:35 pm : link
Something happened to his ribs - he's all over the place now.
RE: Wentz is hurt  
BestFeature : 9/15/2019 9:42 pm : link
In comment 14578832 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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Something happened to his ribs - he's all over the place now.


That makes sense because he's looked awful.
Yeah I think his ribs are bothering him for sure  
NY-Fan : 9/15/2019 9:47 pm : link
Wonder how bad it is.
Wentz  
gmenatlarge : 9/15/2019 9:56 pm : link
has no idea how to protect his body, He wonít last in the league exposing his ribs like that.
Is Collinsworth a PR rep for the Eagles  
Essex : 9/15/2019 10:17 pm : link
???
The  
AcidTest : 9/15/2019 10:18 pm : link
Eagles are taking a beating.
Pressure  
AcidTest : 9/15/2019 10:25 pm : link
made Ryan make a terrible throw.
Two point conversion  
Marty866b : 9/15/2019 10:32 pm : link
Didn't look like he got in.
What  
AcidTest : 9/15/2019 10:41 pm : link
a terrible decision and throw by Ryan.
Why is that personal foul  
eclipz928 : 9/15/2019 10:44 pm : link
penalized half the distance to the goal instead of 15 yards?
RE: Oh look. QB that actually understands how passing  
ChaChing : 9/15/2019 10:45 pm : link
In comment 14578792 Zeke's Alibi said:
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lanes work!

Tbf from the Duke games I watched, DJ has had issues with this. Clemson game was awful (obv w/ that DL), but iirc it wasn't the only time. I def remember thinking it's funny both he & Eli are tall but still seem to have more of an issue than most (while guys like Brees or Wilson seem to manage better tho much shorter)
RE: What  
BestFeature : 9/15/2019 10:45 pm : link
In comment 14579032 AcidTest said:
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a terrible decision and throw by Ryan.


Other than 2016 and maybe another season or two the guy seems painfully average to me.
RE: Why is that personal foul  
BillKo : 9/15/2019 10:50 pm : link
In comment 14579037 eclipz928 said:
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penalized half the distance to the goal instead of 15 yards?


No penalty can exceed half the distance to the goal, including personal fouls.
NBC has had 3 commercial breaks  
Mr. Bungle : 9/15/2019 10:50 pm : link
in the last 5 plays.
The issue w Ryan is he has somehow never gotten  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/15/2019 10:53 pm : link
The shit Eli has IMO. The guy has had some of the WR corps year in year out. Eli has Benny Fowler and heís the main reason the Giants have been bad the last 5 years. Ok.

No one thinks Eli the s some top 10 QB. But Ryan is somehow some great QB still. Thereís about 7 top tier guys then all the rest.

And next time some super DC is out there like Schwartz  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/15/2019 10:55 pm : link
Marinelli, Wade Phillips or Greg Williams can the Giants hire the guy. Geez
Wow what a play by wentz  
Bleedblue10 : 9/15/2019 11:08 pm : link
Seeing that and watching Allen today makes me wish we would just put in Jones already. That was 3rd down and if that was the Giants Eli wouldíve been sacked and the drive wouldíve ended. But since Wentz isnít a statue they have 1st and goal with the chance to go ahead. It really is a game of inches
RE: Wow what a play by wentz  
HomerJones45 : 9/15/2019 11:14 pm : link
In comment 14579096 Bleedblue10 said:
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Seeing that and watching Allen today makes me wish we would just put in Jones already. That was 3rd down and if that was the Giants Eli wouldíve been sacked and the drive wouldíve ended. But since Wentz isnít a statue they have 1st and goal with the chance to go ahead. It really is a game of inches
Jones is not Allen or Wentz. He is not the athlete those two guys are. Don't be mad; it's just fact. If you are expecting Jones to be the runner and pack the rocket launcher those guys have, you will be disappointed. Doesn't mean he won't be a good qb, it just means he will be a different qb.
RE: The issue w Ryan is he has somehow never gotten  
montanagiant : 9/15/2019 11:17 pm : link
In comment 14579066 LauderdaleMatty said:
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The shit Eli has IMO. The guy has had some of the WR corps year in year out. Eli has Benny Fowler and heís the main reason the Giants have been bad the last 5 years. Ok.

No one thinks Eli the s some top 10 QB. But Ryan is somehow some great QB still. Thereís about 7 top tier guys then all the rest.

Exactly correct. he has had sets of receivers that many teams would drool over
RE: RE: The issue w Ryan is he has somehow never gotten  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/15/2019 11:22 pm : link
In comment 14579120 montanagiant said:
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The shit Eli has IMO. The guy has had some of the WR corps year in year out. Eli has Benny Fowler and heís the main reason the Giants have been bad the last 5 years. Ok.

No one thinks Eli the s some top 10 QB. But Ryan is somehow some great QB still. Thereís about 7 top tier guys then all the rest.



Exactly correct. he has had sets of receivers that many teams would drool over


He has, but it has been at the expense of his offensive line. I agree though, he's been Eli without the runs. I don't think anyone really hypes him up anymore though.
Zach Hutrz.  
St. Jimmy : 9/15/2019 11:27 pm : link
.
It sucks cuz hes on the Eagles  
Nine-Tails : 9/15/2019 11:30 pm : link
But I really like watching Wentz play. When dude is healthy, only a few can do what he does
Nice Eagles lose  
ChaChing : 9/15/2019 11:37 pm : link
Never a bad thing
Wentz crying..  
Football Giants : 9/15/2019 11:41 pm : link
Nice to see Eagles lose. That one hurt
RE: It sucks cuz hes on the Eagles  
St. Jimmy : 9/15/2019 11:45 pm : link
In comment 14579156 Nine-Tails said:
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But I really like watching Wentz play. When dude is healthy, only a few can do what he does
Haha to last drive of the game wins in his career both against the Giants. One was a 15 yard pass to kick 61 yard field goal.
The Eagles for two weeks have not been able to run the football  
Essex : 9/15/2019 11:48 pm : link
... if that continues itís going to be a huge problem with what they do.
RE: The Eagles for two weeks have not been able to run the football  
St. Jimmy : 9/15/2019 11:50 pm : link
In comment 14579184 Essex said:
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... if that continues itís going to be a huge problem with what they do.
I think the Cowboys will win the division. There is no Foles to bail the Eagles out this year. Tonight put them behind in NFC tie breakers.
RE: RE: RE: The issue w Ryan is he has somehow never gotten  
BestFeature : 9/15/2019 11:57 pm : link
In comment 14579135 Zeke's Alibi said:
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The shit Eli has IMO. The guy has had some of the WR corps year in year out. Eli has Benny Fowler and heís the main reason the Giants have been bad the last 5 years. Ok.

No one thinks Eli the s some top 10 QB. But Ryan is somehow some great QB still. Thereís about 7 top tier guys then all the rest.



Exactly correct. he has had sets of receivers that many teams would drool over



He has, but it has been at the expense of his offensive line. I agree though, he's been Eli without the runs. I don't think anyone really hypes him up anymore though.


Eli has never had a season like Ryan in 2016. Regular season obviously.
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LauderdaleMatty : 9/16/2019 12:52 am : link
In comment 14579194 BestFeature said:
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The shit Eli has IMO. The guy has had some of the WR corps year in year out. Eli has Benny Fowler and heís the main reason the Giants have been bad the last 5 years. Ok.

No one thinks Eli the s some top 10 QB. But Ryan is somehow some great QB still. Thereís about 7 top tier guys then all the rest.



Exactly correct. he has had sets of receivers that many teams would drool over



He has, but it has been at the expense of his offensive line. I agree though, he's been Eli without the runs. I don't think anyone really hypes him up anymore though.



Eli has never had a season like Ryan in 2016. Regular season obviously.


Iíll pass on the one great regular season and losing in the Suoerbowl and take the two Super Bowl runsAnd two Super Bowl MVPs.

I think heís a good QB but he almost gave the game away and you still hear the Matty ice stuff a bit. Heís never gotten half the crap Eli has w a lot better talent around him.
I just got home from this game  
ij_reilly : 9/16/2019 12:57 am : link
Really good game. Outstanding stadium too, of course.

The Giants are an abomination , compared to these two teams.
I really feel like people spend A LOT of time trying to discredit Ryan  
ChaChing : 9/16/2019 1:37 am : link
when he's clearly a top QB. Not saying HOF (tho the reg season numbers are hard to argue), but 2 of the last 3 yrs he's thrown 7 picks, never over 20, 4500yds & 65%+ comps all but 2 of the last 8 yrs, 3 seasons close to 70%. Eli has more than doubled the picks alone all but 3 yrs of his career (save yr 1). And while 2 SBs is nothing to sneeze at for Eli, acting like MR hasn't when he was less than a qtr from an SB W - nuts (and the epic comeback could hardly be blamed solely on him). Even last yr's down team yr (among other seasons), 35 & 7? Come on, that's pretty impeccable

He has bad games. But in spite of his mistakes today, he won - and HE did plenty to make it happen in the end. Hell Brady's had 4-5 pick games and won. Yet whether it's the same game or just a quick bounce back, great players do that. Ryan did that today and it's not the first...yet people just can't accept he's real good. Dome, WRs, good team or not...

While I agree Eli has gotten more hate over his career, there's a lot of legit criticisms. Yet Ryan gets hate for 7 picks and an SB appearance? I can accept someone not wanting him as their QB (i guess) but it's nuts at this point
And again, I get the passing era stats, playing in domes  
ChaChing : 9/16/2019 1:43 am : link
having great WRs...yet even so I don't know what he'd have to do or how much better he'd have to play before the majority gives him fair credit vs this consistent 'he's not that good' tone

Would having won the SB - in spite of getting as close as you can without winning - make ALL the difference? Consistent 5k yds, 70%, 5 INTs seasons? I don't get it
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