Just bc would be fun to think if we draft in the top 3

had the last decade so lets take that down a notch.

Which is a case for getting Danny in there quickly enough to determine what they have in him.

and trade Jones for a late second.

In comment 14579313 robbieballs2003 said:

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and trade Jones for a late second.

Josh Rosen says hi.

What game on our schedule do you see us winning?

The four wins Vegas has for us on the over/under right now is looking very generous.

And sell it to Miami for all their picks.

In comment 14579343 90.Cal said:

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And sell it to Miami for all their picks.

No. The Giants need to find out this season what they have in Daniel Jones.
Here's a worst case scenario: they play the whole season with Manning, they tank, get the 2nd or 3rd draft pick. They say, "We don't need to draft a QB, we got Jones." They go into next season starting Jones and he turns out to be the king of fumbles or just not that accurate. Find out this season if he is the future of the franchise.

Makes you believe the Giants can beat any NFL team?

The Giants may be the worst team in the NFL.

But the reality of your post is a sad indictment of where this team and organization is. With 14 games remaining to be played we are already playing out scenarios of where the Giants may draft and the possible deals they might be able to make.

Here's another stark reality. When the only two stars on your team are the the running back and the place kicker you aren't winning many games.

Giants don't know what they have yet in Jones. They also don't know what kind of seasons the top QB prospects will have nor do they know what kind of haul they would get for trading out.

If the Giants finish in let's say position #2 in the next NFL draft and Jones looks like he'll be a franchise guy and another team offers a haul for a QB prospect, I'm inclined to take the haul. However, it has to be under the right conditions.

Ideally if the Giants were drafting from the #2 slot and any two of Tua, Fromm and Herbert were considered "top two" players I wouldn't want the Giants to drop any lower than slot #4. That would mean they would still get one of two bluechip players at a position of need (like ER Chase Young or one of the Bama WR) in addition to more picks.

I only trade out of a top 3 spot if we can still get a bluechip pick at a position of need. Not interested in dropping out of the top 10 or even the top 5 (depending upon how the draft crop looks) just to get more picks.

If we don't play Jones and find out what we have. If he doesn't show Shurmur he's a franchise QB, only then, can we pick one of Fromm, Tua, Lawrence, or Herbert.

So we can draft Lawrence in 2021

Top 2 WR back in week 4. Not the same team they are today. They are better than Miami.

Let's pretend Gettleman got one thing right and Jones is the QB of the future. Tua and Herbert will be gone anyway if we pick third.

So, what's our number 1 need? I'd say EDGE (Chase Young) but could be talked into WR (Jeudy). Even if Baker is good, we're going to need another CB soon. Same with OT, I don't think anyone is all that happy with Solder.

This is like making a Christmas list on December 26th, but what else is there to do.

At some point, Jones must start this year and have enough starts to assess whether to draft another qb next year or to trade what is likely a high draft pick to a qb needy team. There is absolutely no way around that. I can actually see jones starting before the popular week 7 guess if Eli continues to look how he did the first 2 games.

In comment 14579310 robbieballs2003 said:

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had the last decade so lets take that down a notch.

We blew Washington out just last year. Amazingly enough. Though that was because they started Mark Sanchez.

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Makes you believe the Giants can beat any NFL team?

Have you seen Miami? This team is horrible but Miami is historically awful.

In comment 14579468 26.2 said:

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The Giants may be the worst team in the NFL.

The Giants are SB contenders compared to Miami. Miami has a legitimate chance to be the worst team in the history of the NFL.

and the staff is very high on him. Sure, like with an QB it will take time for him to get it in gear. Why draft another QB with a top6 pick? That would be a tremendous waste. Trade down, gather other firsts and 2nds, and continue to fill the many other holes (like WR, LB, DB)